🦉 Owl.games 🦉 Web 3.0 Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - BTC-Metamask-Walletconnect

[dmamigo]

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Were you in the USA when you played at OwlGames? Have you used VPN to access the website? Based on the terms, OwlGames reserves the right to freeze your funds if you use VPN without taking permission from their support (terms 3.2). They also reserve the right to confiscate your funds if you provided fake documents to them (terms 3.2.7).

The issue I KYC have been something of great concern to players and one needs to have settled with the fact that even though the casino does not 100% request for kyc verification, there are still some cases that warrant the casino to request for them and VPN usage is a total flag off for casino and players are advised to either stay away from restricted casinos I stead of risking they account by using VPN.

But then we still have some casino that has lesser KYC law, and will just look away from VPN usage and big withdrawal does not demand KYC.

With multiple new norms for getting accepted in a few countries, KYC had to be brought in I believe. Regarding VPN, as it is used by fraudsters as well nowadays in large chunks, VPN usage has to be limited.
Yes, we surely have casinos with less or no KYC requirements but I tend to keep away from them, usually.

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[babygun]

I was not actually blocked by the game provider, which was Evolution, because I could still play First Person Craps, but in Live Craps, the live stream wouldn't play. If I use a VPN it would play. Although the issue was fixed maybe two weeks later when I complained about it directly in Evolution's support chatbox.

Plus I'm not worried about KYC. I'm a pleb-user that gambles with pleb-amount. The admins will probably pity me and say "Give him his satoshis". Hahaha.

Not talking about owl.games in specific but I am also a player with small funds but have been asked on several occasions for several sites to provide KYC when I tried to withdraw amounts between 50 and 200$. It is just something we will need to live with I think, as there is more and more a trend in casinos asking for KYC.

[Beparanf]

I was not actually blocked by the game provider, which was Evolution, because I could still play First Person Craps, but in Live Craps, the live stream wouldn't play. If I use a VPN it would play. Although the issue was fixed maybe two weeks later when I complained about it directly in Evolution's support chatbox.

Plus I'm not worried about KYC. I'm a pleb-user that gambles with pleb-amount. The admins will probably pity me and say "Give him his satoshis". Hahaha.

Not talking about owl.games in specific but I am also a player with small funds but have been asked on several occasions for several sites to provide KYC when I tried to withdraw amounts between 50 and 200$. It is just something we will need to live with I think, as there is more and more a trend in casinos asking for KYC.

This is a very rare case scenario. Can you specify what other things that you do aside from winning that amount? You probably keep winning that amount out of small deposit that involves bonus of the casino that triggers the alarm from casino security to check whether you are connected on group of user that cheating the casino or not.

The only time I’m being ask to KYC is when I try to withdraw the deposit amount that I still didn't finish to wager but winning huge amount from my small deposit doesn't require me to do KYC on my current casino.

[Mahdirakib]

But then we still have some casino that has lesser KYC law, and will just look away from VPN usage and big withdrawal does not demand KYC.

Yep, some casinos aren't strict with the KYC policy. But you won't be able to avoid the KYC verification process if any of them ask you to do that. KYC verification is requested by the casino if a player break some specific terms. Most of the casino doesn't allow the usage of VPN. You may use it at OwlGames by taking the permission from their support. But you shouldn't do it if you are from a restricted region. However, KYC policy is applied by most of the casinos now for big withdrawals.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

But then we still have some casino that has lesser KYC law, and will just look away from VPN usage and big withdrawal does not demand KYC.

Yep, some casinos aren't strict with the KYC policy. But you won't be able to avoid the KYC verification process if any of them ask you to do that. KYC verification is requested by the casino if a player break some specific terms. Most of the casino doesn't allow the usage of VPN. You may use it at OwlGames by taking the permission from their support. But you shouldn't do it if you are from a restricted region. However, KYC policy is applied by most of the casinos now for big withdrawals.

Yeah, I think owl.games is among the casinos that are not so stringent in the area of KYC., at least, for the few occasions I've played on their casino, I've played and withdrawed freely without any notice of kyc of any kind.

And speaking on the issue of VPN, reputable casinos that allow users to use VPN are very few, Infact some always allow it when they are still very new to the gambling market, but ones they achieved a certain level of success, they ban its usage, and I think the reason for gamblers wanting to use VPN is to bypass their country's ban on gambling, why should anyone in a supported region still opt to using VPN?

[abel1337]

But then we still have some casino that has lesser KYC law, and will just look away from VPN usage and big withdrawal does not demand KYC.

Yep, some casinos aren't strict with the KYC policy. But you won't be able to avoid the KYC verification process if any of them ask you to do that. KYC verification is requested by the casino if a player break some specific terms. Most of the casino doesn't allow the usage of VPN. You may use it at OwlGames by taking the permission from their support. But you shouldn't do it if you are from a restricted region. However, KYC policy is applied by most of the casinos now for big withdrawals.

Yeah, I think owl.games is among the casinos that are not so stringent in the area of KYC., at least, for the few occasions I've played on their casino, I've played and withdrawed freely without any notice of kyc of any kind.

And speaking on the issue of VPN, reputable casinos that allow users to use VPN are very few, Infact some always allow it when they are still very new to the gambling market, but ones they achieved a certain level of success, they ban its usage, and I think the reason for gamblers wanting to use VPN is to bypass their country's ban on gambling, why should anyone in a supported region still opt to using VPN?

I usually don't play on new casino but it is possible that new casino are trying to loosen their ToS in order to attract new users and to as much as possible avoid someone posting something bad about them on certain things like VPN. There are players who are using VPN as their own internet protection and we can't blame them if they use it even their country don't have the restriction to play on that casino. I believe that this can backfire to the casino but I guess the damage that will be done if they tighten up their ToS is manageable knowing that it works to other casino.

[redsun114]

I was not actually blocked by the game provider, which was Evolution, because I could still play First Person Craps, but in Live Craps, the live stream wouldn't play. If I use a VPN it would play. Although the issue was fixed maybe two weeks later when I complained about it directly in Evolution's support chatbox.

Plus I'm not worried about KYC. I'm a pleb-user that gambles with pleb-amount. The admins will probably pity me and say "Give him his satoshis". Hahaha.

Not talking about owl.games in specific but I am also a player with small funds but have been asked on several occasions for several sites to provide KYC when I tried to withdraw amounts between 50 and 200$. It is just something we will need to live with I think, as there is more and more a trend in casinos asking for KYC.

Maybe you can name those casinos in here or you can also create a thread about it. That will surely help small players who don't want to deal with KYC but may I ask if they require it during the sign up process and not randomly by the time you are already playing? It's also possible that they see you as a suspicious player.

It can happen but it doesn't really mean that you have done some shady acts inside the casino. It's just that they are using an AI which are too sensitive. You are right. Maybe most centralized crypto casinos (if not all) are destined to this KYC thing. So, we must always prepare for it or better if we will start to embrace fully decentralized gambling sites.

[khaled0111]

and I think the reason for gamblers wanting to use VPN is to bypass their country's ban on gambling, why should anyone in a supported region still opt to using VPN?

Not all gamblers who use VPNs are using it for illicit purposes. Many use it for privacy reasons or just because they are used to it.
It doesn't matter why a casino forbids the use of VPNs, but if it does then just don't do it. You have to comply with casino's rules if you don't want to face any troubles.
However, it won't hurt to ask the support for permission and explain to them why you need to use it, as Mahdirakib suggested.

[hd49728]

Not all gamblers who use VPNs are using it for illicit purposes. Many use it for privacy reasons or just because they are used to it.
It doesn't matter why a casino forbids the use of VPNs, but if it does then just don't do it. You have to comply with casino's rules if you don't want to face any troubles.
However, it won't hurt to ask the support for permission and explain to them why you need to use it, as Mahdirakib suggested.

Gamblers must use their accounts with full understanding of casino's Terms of Service. Like VPN, with a few minutes of searching, they can find rules or no rules about that on one casino.

If rules say No, it is best to not try to break it with any tool. If a casino has a rule against it, they have reasons and they won't encourage and won't tolerate users who try to break their Service rules.

It is bad to not read rules before using but if you know about rules and break it intentionally, no words to find sympathy from casino or community.

[danadc]

and I think the reason for gamblers wanting to use VPN is to bypass their country's ban on gambling, why should anyone in a supported region still opt to using VPN?

Not all gamblers who use VPNs are using it for illicit purposes. Many use it for privacy reasons or just because they are used to it.
It doesn't matter why a casino forbids the use of VPNs, but if it does then just don't do it. You have to comply with casino's rules if you don't want to face any troubles.
However, it won't hurt to ask the support for permission and explain to them why you need to use it, as Mahdirakib suggested.

What they say about the VPN is also the most valid reason, I live in a Latin American country and I see how they have a certain resentment towards the people here, the facilities that some have in other developed countries are not available here, sometimes I want to do that my things are very direct to privacy, anonymity, because I like it, it's not because I have a lot of money and it scares me and that's why I have to use those protocols, but in a project I learned to use some tools like the VPN and some browsers like TOR, or Opera Mini, which make you difficult to track, so if the country I'm in isn't banned, I still enter like that sometimes.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

and I think the reason for gamblers wanting to use VPN is to bypass their country's ban on gambling, why should anyone in a supported region still opt to using VPN?

Not all gamblers who use VPNs are using it for illicit purposes. Many use it for privacy reasons or just because they are used to it.
It doesn't matter why a casino forbids the use of VPNs, but if it does then just don't do it. You have to comply with casino's rules if you don't want to face any troubles.
However, it won't hurt to ask the support for permission and explain to them why you need to use it, as Mahdirakib suggested.

I agree with you that not all that use VPN use it for illicit activities, for example, few times ive used VPN on a casino, i didnt use it on purpose, i turned the VPN on to use a social media that was banned in my country, and after i was through using the social media, i forgot to turn the VPN off before opening the casino to gamble.
But the thing is i quickly turned the VPN off immediately i saw the signs on the casino that i was using VPN.

Now my question based on your comment is, what is the need of privacy in gambling when the casino in question already know who you are?
this is in terms of those that have completed a KYC verification on the casino, is there still any need hiding your identity of location from the casino even after you've completed kyc verification?

[Wiwo]

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Now my question based on your comment is, what is the need of privacy in gambling when the casino in question already know who you are?
this is in terms of those that have completed a KYC verification on the casino, is there still any need hiding your identity of location from the casino even after you've completed kyc verification?

Answering that question may be hard but we all know that different people with their reasons for doing things and only the individuals involved know exactly why they do what they do, and VPV flagging on casinos have been due to some of these reasons but is not limited to them.
1: casinos flag vpn accounts when there are suspected cases of a violation of their terms and conditions, in this sense a player trying to bypass restrictions.
2: when there is bonus abuse and the case of multiple accounts, this way Chester tries to use VPN to stay off the radar and keep accumulating casino bonuses under multiple accounting.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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Now my question based on your comment is, what is the need of privacy in gambling when the casino in question already know who you are?
this is in terms of those that have completed a KYC verification on the casino, is there still any need hiding your identity of location from the casino even after you've completed kyc verification?

Answering that question may be hard but we all know that different people with their reasons for doing things and only the individuals involved know exactly why they do what they do, and VPV flagging on casinos have been due to some of these reasons but is not limited to them.
1: casinos flag vpn accounts when there are suspected cases of a violation of their terms and conditions, in this sense a player trying to bypass restrictions.
2: when there is bonus abuse and the case of multiple accounts, this way Chester tries to use VPN to stay off the radar and keep accumulating casino bonuses under multiple accounting.

Then putting this things you mentioned perspective, I personally think casinos that ban the use of VPN on their platform shouldn't be blamed,  when the majority of those that use VPN, use it for doing things that the casino is against, then I pretty much support the ban, because like I said earlier, I've not seen a genuine reason why some one in a region where the casino has not restricted would prefer using VPN if not to hide his or her identity, and from my personal estimation, more than 90 percent of why most people hide their identity in their gambling activities is just incase they find an opportunity to abuse the casino, their identity won't be immediately known.

[Wind_FURY]

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Now my question based on your comment is, what is the need of privacy in gambling when the casino in question already know who you are?
this is in terms of those that have completed a KYC verification on the casino, is there still any need hiding your identity of location from the casino even after you've completed kyc verification?

Answering that question may be hard but we all know that different people with their reasons for doing things and only the individuals involved know exactly why they do what they do, and VPV flagging on casinos have been due to some of these reasons but is not limited to them.
1: casinos flag vpn accounts when there are suspected cases of a violation of their terms and conditions, in this sense a player trying to bypass restrictions.
2: when there is bonus abuse and the case of multiple accounts, this way Chester tries to use VPN to stay off the radar and keep accumulating casino bonuses under multiple accounting.

Then putting this things you mentioned perspective, I personally think casinos that ban the use of VPN on their platform shouldn't be blamed,  when the majority of those that use VPN, use it for doing things that the casino is against, then I pretty much support the ban, because like I said earlier, I've not seen a genuine reason why some one in a region where the casino has not restricted would prefer using VPN if not to hide his or her identity, and from my personal estimation, more than 90 percent of why most people hide their identity in their gambling activities is just incase they find an opportunity to abuse the casino, their identity won't be immediately known.

It's also an opportunity for people to use fake identities in the casino for nefarious purposes, like laundering their coins, or it could be something more "innocent" like going around a ban. It could also be another vector/opportunity for minors to gamble.

Although there's no clear "ban" on the use of VPNs, I believe when you use them, the casino puts the user in their list of potential fraudsters/cheaters.

[piebeyb]

Among other web 3 casinos owl games happen to be one of the most popular site and more relatable compared to other clubs who have no adequate plan draining, but the only aspect its does it works so he got good.
Round,

I don't know what 3 casinos you mean but I see OWL has web3 which supports several blockchain networks it's already a plus for this casino project, but I haven't tried playing there maybe in the future I will try it, it seems I need to buy some OWL tokens to play there 

[Odusko]

Among other web 3 casinos, owl games happen to be one of the most popular sites and more relatable compared to other clubs that have no adequate plan draining, but the only aspect its does it works so he got good.
Round,

I don't know what 3 casinos you mean but I see OWL has web3 which supports several blockchain networks it's already a plus for this casino project, but I haven't tried playing there maybe in the future I will try it, it seems I need to buy some OWL tokens to play there 

I either i have not used owl token to make a bet on their casino before to see how its native reward system work differently from using other coins on the casino, and I have not seen any other web3 casino making waves in the forum and I haven't played on them either aside from owl which I have played on using other coins aside from owl tokens.
But it is a plus to those web3 casinos since players can connect to them using multiple chains and play directly, which makes them fun and diversified in such a way that is far different from none web3 casinos.

[Coin_trader]

I either i have not used owl token to make a bet on their casino before to see how its native reward system work differently from using other coins on the casino, and I have not seen any other web3 casino making waves in the forum and I haven't played on them either aside from owl which I have played on using other coins aside from owl tokens.

IIRC playing native token of a web3 casino will give you more benefits in terms of the rakeback percentage compared when using other altcoins. I don’t know if they updated this percentage or not but this is the number one advantage of playing utility token aside from the staking feature and dividend distribution through buy backs.

The only disadvantage of the casino token is when the emission rate for there mining and casino rewards is still paid out in the casino tokens itself because it floods the circulating supply that cause for a price dump.

I haven't tried playing there maybe in the future I will try it, it seems I need to buy some OWL tokens to play there  

You didn't need OWL tokens to play on owl.games since OWL tokens is just the reward token for all the casino players. You can use it to bet but it's not necessary to hold it before you can play because Owl.games support multiple currency that you can use to play.

This is exactly the reason why casino token is not popular because you can enjoy the casino feature without the utility tokens. The only purpose of their token is to reward players that playing. They should atleast require players to hold a certain amount of tokens as membership fee before they can play there games. But ofc they be offering authentic games with good reward programs to attract user to join and play.

[darxiaomi]

Seems like finally the crypto winter its hitting the OWL token, but also seems like its really strong, we have so much months of this winter and only in this last weeks the price was affected.

Yesterday i use the site and i really like (i said this in the past) the streams of matches in live. Not so much bookies offer this.

[owlgames]

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