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December 31, 2021, 08:24:51 AM
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Now that mining profitability is decreasing everyday and crypto market is looking weaker will we finally be able to buy some GPU at cheap price in 2022? Will GPU scarcity finally reduce ? I heard about the upcoming RTX 4**** is this for real?

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December 31, 2021, 09:47:44 AM
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Hard to predict
ETH delayed difficulty bomb until june 2022, and at this price, people will continue to buy gpus
but we have to consider more things: new wave of covid, inflation, lack of supply, high costs of shipping etc

All of these above are causing insane prices, and honestly, I don't see a brighter future in a few months to buy "cheap" gpus yet.

About rtx 4xxx series, I heard some rumours about launch at october 2022, and even then we have no guarantee that there will be good availability of gpus to sell
you see, hard to predict something

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December 31, 2021, 09:51:03 AM
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Now that mining profitability is decreasing everyday and crypto market is looking weaker will we finally be able to buy some GPU at cheap price in 2022? Will GPU scarcity finally reduce ? I heard about the upcoming RTX 4**** is this for real?

Out of nowhere crypto may start going nuts again. We can't really know what's going to happen. If you have enough money for a GPU don't wait too much and buy it. Even if crypto don't go up, prices will go up anyway because of the inflation. Don't delay your important purchases. The inflation rate in the US is 6%+. FIAT is losing its purchasing power very fast.

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December 31, 2021, 10:26:22 AM
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Out of nowhere crypto may start going nuts again.

Oh yes, you're right
I forgot to say that, I only wrote about possible things to happen to reduce gpu prices, but there's a chance to prices go up in 2022 and scarcity become even worse
Let's say ETH continue to 4k USD, it's profitable and people will keep buying at this pace

But what if ETH jumps to 5k, 6k, 10k USD?
It's not impossible and these prices can create another spike

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December 31, 2021, 01:16:53 PM
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Now that mining profitability is decreasing everyday and crypto market is looking weaker will we finally be able to buy some GPU at cheap price in 2022? Will GPU scarcity finally reduce ? I heard about the upcoming RTX 4**** is this for real?
Testing the Nvidia RTX 4090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0frNP0qzxQc

The new product line starts with the release of the most expensive video cards, if you are waiting for cheap low-budget versions from the analogs of the PTX 3050, then I think it will be in 2024.

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December 31, 2021, 03:35:43 PM
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Out of nowhere crypto may start going nuts again.

Oh yes, you're right
I forgot to say that, I only wrote about possible things to happen to reduce gpu prices, but there's a chance to prices go up in 2022 and scarcity become even worse
Let's say ETH continue to 4k USD, it's profitable and people will keep buying at this pace

But what if ETH jumps to 5k, 6k, 10k USD?
It's not impossible and these prices can create another spike
Are you saying it's possible for ETH to grow over 4k in 2022? I think that's impossible because crypto have already grow so much higher than what we've seen in crypto history, there must be time for retraces in value, saying ETH can go 6k means bear market isn't ever going to happen which sound too good to be true to me

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December 31, 2021, 04:08:18 PM
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Crypto is ten times more demanding than before, everyone wants to be a part of it that's why I believe that the accumulation of crypto this year onward will be something we've never seen before that's why I believe that 2022 can be different though we all expect bear market to happen but if accumulation takes another phase bear won't live to see the light

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December 31, 2021, 04:11:35 PM
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Now that mining profitability is decreasing everyday and crypto market is looking weaker will we finally be able to buy some GPU at cheap price in 2022? Will GPU scarcity finally reduce ? I heard about the upcoming RTX 4**** is this for real?
Testing the Nvidia RTX 4090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0frNP0qzxQc

The new product line starts with the release of the most expensive video cards, if you are waiting for cheap low-budget versions from the analogs of the PTX 3050, then I think it will be in 2024.

that is a funny video

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December 31, 2021, 04:11:49 PM
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This means difficult will catch up to it and then nobody will buy gpus to mine, making gpu price to drop little by little with the difficult, right now roi is very high around 500 days, that is around 18 months.

Crypto is ten times more demanding than before, everyone wants to be a part of it that's why I believe that the accumulation of crypto this year onward will be something we've never seen before that's why I believe that 2022 can be different though we all expect bear market to happen but if accumulation takes another phase bear won't live to see the light

Nobody has unlimited money to keep buying it, so if there is no hype anymore it will crash very hard. You trolls must understand that starting the bull market means people buy too much, if bull market is close to end then means people will sell too much, as we have the buying climax we will have a selling climax, meaning buying demand or selling demand is based on manipulation, hype and fear.

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December 31, 2021, 04:14:52 PM
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This means difficult will catch up to it and then nobody will buy gpus to mine, making gpu price to drop little by little with the difficult, right now roi is very high around 500 days, that is around 18 months.

Well none of us know what will happen down the road.

At the moment we are down to 5 or 6 cents an mh.
on pools like viabtc.

But if coin skyrockets to 6k then 8k then 10 k in 2022   profits goes through the roof.

and if we stay in the 3500-4500 profits will drop.


hash rate is at  985 th or

10             rtx a5000 = 1gh
10000.      rtx a5000 =. 1th
9,850,000 rtx a5000 = 985 th

so 23,640,000,000 billion in nvidia rtx a5000 cards burning

2265.5 megawatts of power about ½ of the Niagara Falls hydro dam for the eth network if it was all Nvidia rtx a5000 cards

and this is earning 59,100,000 usd a day or 21,571,500,000 a year before power cost of 203,850 usd an hour or 146,772,000 a month or 1,761,264,000 a year


NOW  think  I spend 23.6 billion for the gpus. I spend 1.7 billion for power = 25.3billion add mobos and infrastructure I am 29billion in and I earn 21.5 bill year 1 =  7.5billion in the hole but in year 2 I earn 21.5 bill puts me at 14 billion profit the gear should last 3 years so at 21.5 to that and we are at 35.5 billion profit.
I used retail rates so big guys pay less they are salivating over this.
Look for POW to last longer. as ETH switching away kills off all of the above.


  

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December 31, 2021, 04:19:21 PM
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This means difficult will catch up to it and then nobody will buy gpus to mine, making gpu price to drop little by little with the difficult, right now roi is very high around 500 days, that is around 18 months.

Well none of us know what will happen down the road.

At the moment we are down to 5 or 6 cents an mh.
on pools like viabtc.

But if coin skyrockets to 6k then 8k then 10 k in 2022   profits goes through the roof.

and if we stay in the 3500-4500 profits will drop.

Yeah agreed, i don't think this will keep sideways for a long time, meaning, staying around 3500-4500 then start going up again, yes it can happen for short amount of time, if nothing happens, then it has a great chance to crash than to go up, if in 6 months eth does not break 5k then gameover, back to 500 usd and lower. I'm still waiting to sell my last 20% on eth above 5k but if eth crashes lower than 3k then game over, I prefer to sell for 3k than to lose the opportunity and see eth crashing lower than 500 usd, right now still all right. I have seen some eth whales addresses selling some of their eth, I wonder why.

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December 31, 2021, 05:11:13 PM
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Are you saying it's possible for ETH to grow over 4k in 2022? I think that's impossible because crypto have already grow so much higher than what we've seen in crypto history, there must be time for retraces in value, saying ETH can go 6k means bear market isn't ever going to happen which sound too good to be true to me

Of course it's possible to ETH reach more than 4k in 2022, why not?
The rewards in crypto is awesome because nobody knows what's going to happen in the future, even whales can be tricked by bigger whales or even retail

Yes, we can see retrace, we can see crashes, ETH can crash to lower than 400 USD again, it's possible, but we have the same chances to ETH hit 5k, 6k, or even 10k USD



Nobody has unlimited money to keep buying it, so if there is no hype anymore it will crash very hard.

Yes, nobody has unlimited money, but there's plenty of money to enter crypto market, 2.2 trillions USD is not the peak, I really believe year after year cryptos will gain some percentage compared to stocks and in a few years market will be stronger, like 5 to 10 trillions USD

But yes, we can see a crash again

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Yes, nobody has unlimited money, but there's plenty of money to enter crypto market, 2.2 trillions USD is not the peak, I really believe year after year cryptos will gain some percentage compared to stocks and in a few years market will be stronger, like 5 to 10 trillions USD

But yes, we can see a crash again

Reason there are cycles, time to time people earn more money and then reinvest that in things like stocks or crypto.

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Yes, nobody has unlimited money, but there's plenty of money to enter crypto market, 2.2 trillions USD is not the peak, I really believe year after year cryptos will gain some percentage compared to stocks and in a few years market will be stronger, like 5 to 10 trillions USD

But yes, we can see a crash again

Reason there are cycles, time to time people earn more money and then reinvest that in things like stocks or crypto.

Some have made large scores and want to shift the wealth to what they perceive as 'safe'

Others turned 100k into 5mil and this is most of what they have. They are very likely to pull a lot out soon. As they feel this was their 'big' score.

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Some have made large scores and want to shift the wealth to what they perceive as 'safe'

Others turned 100k into 5mil and this is most of what they have. They are very likely to pull a lot out soon. As they feel this was their 'big' score.

Yeah, time to lay low and keep that wealth. There will be other opportunities where they can score big again, right now I would gamble only 20%.

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Whether GPUs become in high supply or decent supply doesn’t only have to do with ETH mining profitability. Due to covid and this Omnicron variant there is going to be more shut downs and possibly supply issues again.

So even if ETH trades sideways or goes down, the GPUs might be still hard to get. I remember back in late 2014 and late 2018 when mining was very unprofitable. I would go on Craigslist and eBay and check for decent deals and there were none, GPUs always seem to hold their value.

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The war of GPU isn't even over yet because Covid is out there and crypto market is still holding very strong, once the holidays are over the market might recover for the better which will make ETH mining remain profitable, I don't think GPU will be cheap

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The war of GPU isn't even over yet because Covid is out there and crypto market is still holding very strong, once the holidays are over the market might recover for the better which will make ETH mining remain profitable, I don't think GPU will be cheap

GPU-s are not going to be sold for cheap unless the profitability of Ethereum goes down really fast.So far it keeps going down but it is doing so very slow,in March 2021 I used to make 750 USD now I make 600 USD  a month with my rig.That is still very much profitable if you ask me as we just pay near 70 USD energy.

Another thing that is keeping the prices high are the sellers of the GPU-s they know about mining and they keep selling even the RTX 3060 which sucks for mining near the 1000 USD price.

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January 01, 2022, 06:43:05 PM
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It's not over for mining, demands will still come this 2022 and it looks like metaverse and web3.0 will take over this new year, I don't even think that bear will have a good chance like that of 2018 cos so many people are waiting for good dips to take advantage of.

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