Trying to restore my wallet from 2009 or earlier

[Bennoko]

No, the wallet gave the seeds I didn’t create any, i ve really no idea about brain wallet tools,
The seeds were on the screen like with big letter warnings please write down on a paper and
Actually  Tree
Play       Clue
Hope     Mountain
Fish       Swim
Plane     Guess
Soldier   Act

The seeds i throw off from my mind but the writing skills were like this
One line two words, i think its for the easy remembering
My original seeds also follow the order like this
1.   2.
3.   4.
.

[nc50lc]

How do i open the mnemonic word list for 0.30 or where to find?
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Go to your electrum-0.30's folder and open 'client' folder, the file that you're looking for is "mnemonic.py";
open it as a text file and you should see the word list, however, there's no word "glamour" among the list, just the same list in pooya's link.

[Bennoko]

Yes i see, stuck again. The song of fergie glamorous is exactly in the nearly same dates in past it was in my seeds

How do i open the mnemonic word list for 0.30 or where to find?
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Go to your electrum-0.30's folder and open 'client' folder, the file that you're looking for is "mnemonic.py";
open it as a text file and you should see the word list, however, there's no word "glamour" among the list, just the same list in pooya's link.

I am being too much i know, and also dont wanna bore you, would u send me the 0.32-0.33 version on any link anytime when u d ve a free time, i searched on github, couldnt find it
Thank you

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[nc50lc]

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I am being too much i know, and also dont wanna bore you, would u send me the 0.32-0.33 version on any link anytime when u d ve a free time, i searched on github, couldnt find it
Thank you

Here's the link for version 0.32: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tree/506eb41d91d9973fcae79a7db9ea64465203f4e3
Version 0.33: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tree/ac918d02e626ec0fe8cb3b456162725d2988bf8e
Either of the two has the same key derivation update that's incompatible after 0.31 and before 0.34.

I'd suggest to use 0.32, install it the same way you installed 0.30.

[Bennoko]

Here re the results that i recognized btw both 0.30-0.32 versions

Both versions shows the exact 9 seed words true as i wrote, last 3 seeds re missing and not showing up in seed icon, looks like i opened the wallet just with 9 words
I tried to write different seeds it opens the wallet more than different as i wrote. Like i write “swim” it generates “flower” n there is totally different wallet if there is a wrong word in ur seeds. So thats the proof of my seeds re true.

Both two version re creating max 5 different private keys, each two vers. even generates different prv keys n adresses, there is nothing similar, still balance zero

There re only 2 servers , must be at least 4 -5 which vers. I used. Ecsda, - ro.   de.50005, blockstream700 am also imagining.

Still no right click on adress tab in 032 for prv key



I wish old electrum does not sending any seeds to anyone which i write, is it safe everytime everytry i write down?

[nc50lc]

Both two version re creating max 5 different private keys, each two vers. even generates different prv keys n adresses, there is nothing similar, still balance zero

There re only 2 servers , must be at least 4 -5 which vers. I used. Ecsda, - ro.   de.50005, blockstream700 am also imagining.
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Are you pertaining to the balance in the the latest version where the private keys are imported?
If so and the connection icon is green (lower-right), then I'm afraid that those imported keys are really empty.

AFAIK, there's no other seed compatibility-breaking update after v0.34 so those are the only two versions that you can try.

Both versions shows the exact 9 seed words true as i wrote, last 3 seeds re missing and not showing up in seed icon, looks like i opened the wallet just with 9 words
I tried to write different seeds it opens the wallet more than different as i wrote. Like i write “swim” it generates “flower” n there is totally different wallet if there is a wrong word in ur seeds. So thats the proof of my seeds re true.

I can't reproduce this since I don't have those versions installed, try to ask @ETFbitcoin if he can reproduce it to see what's happening.

[Bennoko]

Is there a version of upgrade saying that inside the app, please update the electrum, copy the private keys? Do u remember a message like this?

[pooya87]

Is there a version of upgrade saying that inside the app, please update the electrum, copy the private keys? Do u remember a message like this?

Ever since the update alert message was added to Electrum UI, it has been producing a pretty simple message informing the user that a new version is available and can be downloaded from the official website. It doesn't tell you to do anything else.

There was a small exploit in Electrum which affected old clients and only happened when user broadcasted a new transaction to a malicious server and that server returned a custom html showing the user a message redirecting them to their malicious website.

[Bennoko]

Ok got it, i remember for new uptade alerts, where can i find the first vers which is able to export private keys with right click on the adress? 1.7? Or higher?

[nc50lc]

Is there a version of upgrade saying that inside the app, please update the electrum, copy the private keys? Do u remember a message like this?

Nothing in particular, specially the "copy the private keys" part.
After v3.3.3, there's been an option to prompt the user whenever there's a new version, but that's released in 2019.

Ok got it, i remember for new uptade alerts, where can i find the first vers which is able to export private keys with right click on the adress? 1.7? Or higher?

Take note that seed phrase created with any other versions after v0.34 are still compatible with the latest version.
So importing it to those versions will do nothing but restore the same keys that would've been restored in the latest version.

[Bennoko]

Its ok, ill try my chance sir, where i can find first vers of including export private keys

[nc50lc]

Its ok, ill try my chance sir, where i can find first vers of including export private keys

Version 1.7 is available here (only from source): https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/releases/tag/1.7
Version 1.8 and onwards' binaries are available in their archive download page: https://download.electrum.org/

[Bennoko]

I dont give up😂 one more question whats the first v1 version of electrum that broadcast on ecdsa.electrum.org
Cause i remember the update popup in app and download the new updated vers on ecdsa its changed the name as starts with v1.x.x
Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5. Also 1.8 is doesnt generate new receive adress there is no tab to click for new and doesnt show any adresses even in electrum.dat. Its full empty wallet with no adresses including test seeds and my seeds. Its recovery mode

When u click on new wallet;
And yes 1.8 versions seeds working on 4.1.5, there re exact  5 adresses same on 4.1.5 as in 1.8 version

[nc50lc]

Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5

That can't be.
Seed phrase has been compatible to the latest version since it's implemented,
even seed phrase from v0.30 will work with the latest (but wont restore the correct keys).

There are other wallets that use(d) their own implementation of seed phrase/mnemonic backups that aren't BIP39.
Example is blockchain.info's old account recovery phrase; you might have used other wallets aside from Electrum.

I dont give up😂 one more question whats the first v1 version of electrum that broadcast on ecdsa.electrum.org
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You mean can be downloaded from electrum.ecdsa.org?
IDK but this is the oldest archived page of the site's download page: web.archive.org/web/20121109025628/http://electrum.ecdsa.org/download.html

[Bennoko]

“Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5“
It means it opens the wallet, there is no checksum, but no history no balance, totally different wallet i think.
Thank you for ur efforts. Really.
I ll try the link u gave above in the evening

[nc50lc]

“Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5“
It means it opens the wallet, there is no checksum, but no history no balance, totally different wallet i think.

Ah, so it's basically something similar to v0.30 and v0.34's compatibility-breaking update to the key derivation.
But unfortunately, I don't know if there's another update like that.

You can try to ask the developers themselves from electrum's Github repository.
Specially ecdsa (ThomasV) and SomberNight. (they have email address in their GitHub profile)

[Bennoko]

Link doesnt work 

[nc50lc]

Link doesnt work 

The links in my reply?
It's working at my end, I guess your ISP is blocking GitHub or some other reasons why you can't access it.

[username33333]

HI Please i have the similar issues with this too, I created the account on windows 10 and then got my phrase and saved in into my laptop. few days later my laptop started having issues (it was not turning on)and i took it to the repairer, when i came to get it he told me that the issue was my hard disk and i had to get a new one which i did. then i took that opportunity to install kali linux cause windows was getting boring well here i am now trying to find if there is even a way to get my account back cause i have lost the phrase to it and more importantly i bought roughly 12 dollars btc inside first was 2 dollars and the next one was 10 dollars. i used this website Ecurrency4u.com to buy it. i dont know if this would be of help to you to help trace my account but i would love it if i could get my account back

[Pmalek]

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It's better if you created your own thread and explained your issues there. That way there wont be conflicting information shared with two users for two different problems.

You saved your recovery phrase digitally, without making multiple physical backups of it on paper, and now your hard drive has broken down. From your own example, you can see some of the dangers of doing that. Since there are no other backups of your seed expect the file on your hard drive, your only chance for a recovery is to find someone who can retrieve that data or try to recover it yourself. The exchange, or person you bought it from doesn't matter in this case. You mentioned that Ecurrency4u site. If the coins were moved from that platform to an address generated from private keys and a seed you no longer have, that site can't do anything to help you because they aren't the ones that have access to it.