Sending Bitcoin through radio waves?

[Welsh]

Even if it is possible, is it secured enough?

I don't know how private key will be protected if we include it in our signature when signing a transaction on radio waves. It sounds a very old technology for army forces centuries ago. Do we really need to do backwards technology after we already have the Internet and Blockchain technology?

Security is most importance so if by any mean, radio waves can be a secured channel broadcast Bitcoin transactions, I won't be against it.

Without thinking about it too much, there shouldn't be too much of a difference to how you send them through the internet now. So, the question of security should theoretically be the equivalent. Its just times have moved on mostly from radios i.e for your average person, therefore its the issue about practicability, and convenience rather than security.

It is very important to remember that when you are considering a method of communication, the hardware that method requires has to be easily available at home and majority of people have to already possess that hardware. For example when bitcoin is used over the internet, majority of people already own a PC or a smart phone to communicate over the internet, so it is the perfect way. But if radio waves, satelite, etc. were to be used then majority of people won't have the equipment already and setting it up would take a lot of effort for them, so it is not favorable.

Exactly, radios are slowly descending into extinction for your average person. Mainly only used at certain organizations, emergency services, and hobbyists now. Setting up a local internet even if the government was looking to restrict it would probably be easier because of this reason. At least, if you wanted to be able to send to the most people possible.

[IadixDev]

The only real advantage of radio over internet is that they don't need any address or identifier at all. With internet there is always this possibility for isp or government to identify you. Or then you need ssl + domain and dns is another can of worm and it become difficult to keep everything really air tight. Even tor is not completely fool proof. And bitcoin doesnt need any of this stuff to operate.

The other advantage with radio is they dont require much software layer to operate unlike internet who require a set of base protocole and more elaborated devices to communicate which are always at risk to be compromised. And basic radio device can be very easy and cheap to manufacture.

The very bad point of radio is it can very easily be jammed unless as motionned before there is some kind of central regulation on band use.

The only use of this would be for small set of users really needing strong stealth use of bitcoin on top of the regular use. I dont think it could replace internet for regular bitcoin operations. And by stealth i mean make it hard to even connect you with anykind of bitcoin activity, which is always going to be tricky with internet.

[Abiky]

Check out this Tweet thread: https://twitter.com/nvk/status/1101518677910810624

Unfortunately I don't understand it enough to be able to explain it.

Never thought this was possible with the Lightning Network. It looks pretty cool, but quite difficult to understand. For natural disasters, sending Bitcoin through radio waves is a must. Considering that it's also possible to interact with Bitcoin through satellites, I'd say Bitcoin is virtually unstoppable now.

Governments restricting access to Bitcoin through the internet would be pretty difficult enough; unless they shut down the entire internet.

Yes. That's why I've thought. There will always be a way to get access to Bitcoin, even with government restrictions in play. People can use the TOR network, VPNs, and even the Blockstream satellite to continue using Bitcoin as usual. It's even possible to transact Bitcoin in an off-chain manner through physical bearer assets (like the OpenDime or Tangem) or cold storage wallets (like paper wallets). What governments will only be able to achieve is taking down centralized exchanges in their entirety to help prevent as much people from getting access to Bitcoin with their Fiat. But with decentralized exchanges and/or P2P trading platforms, this is no longer a problem.

I think that you may be meaning something like https://satoshi.radio.br/wp/ which, from what I know, is not yet live/useful.
One problem may be the long-distance radio bands being controlled by the state/illegal to be used by individuals. But I'm no specialist.
There was somewhat related discussion last year here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365021.0

Very interesting. But it seems a little complicated to understand. If this works, then more people will be able to get access to Bitcoin (especially in countries where there's no Internet access). The possibilities are endless here. I hope developers and the community work together to make Bitcoin as censorship-resistant as possible. With so many ways you can interact with Bitcoin, I'd say that it'll be here to stay for a very long time.

[m2017]

I've read somewhere that it was possible to send Bitcoin through radio waves. If I'm not mistaken, someone was able to send Bitcoin through HAM radio. It sounds crazy, but if it really works, then governments will have a hard time trying to restrict people's access to Bitcoin. This will enable true censorship-resistance as we speak.

That said, I'm curious to know how this is done. If you happen to know how, I'd appreciate if you could share it here for the benefit of all. Thank you.

If the trend of segmenting the Internet in the world continues, then perhaps in the future this method will find its regular users.
It would not hurt the cryptocommunity to have such alternative methods and it is better if there are several of them so that no government can influence users of the bitcoin network.

[Abiky]

If the trend of segmenting the Internet in the world continues, then perhaps in the future this method will find its regular users.
It would not hurt the cryptocommunity to have such alternative methods and it is better if there are several of them so that no government can influence users of the bitcoin network.

While it might seem impossible to shut down the whole Internet, governments can simply restrict people from accessing Bitcoin within a specific region/area. It's said that Russia has a restrictive Internet where people can only access certain sites and services allowed by the government. The same is said about China with its Great Firewall. People will be forced to look for other alternatives to get access to Bitcoin. Radio waves are highly accessible, so sending/receiving Bitcoin through them will prove to be revolutionary. This will enable true censorship-resistance as we speak. With radio waves, satellites, and even paper wallets and physical bearer assets (OpenDime, Tangem), Bitcoin will become truly unstoppable. Who knows if governments give up on trying to destroy Bitcoin in the future? Just my opinion

[LUCKMCFLY]

This project I do not know how advanced it is at the moment, but I understand that the Venezuelans who are carrying it out are doing so due to the constant failures of the Venezuelan grid system and due to electrical power failures, this is the reason main thing, but since things in the world can get out of control it is necessary to take reins in this matter, because if a power failure occurs worldwide, all communications can fall and it would be chaos, now the aprte The only thing that really worries about mining is, if communication is achieved, mining would be the main problem.

[Abiky]

This project I do not know how advanced it is at the moment, but I understand that the Venezuelans who are carrying it out are doing so due to the constant failures of the Venezuelan grid system and due to electrical power failures, this is the reason main thing, but since things in the world can get out of control it is necessary to take reins in this matter, because if a power failure occurs worldwide, all communications can fall and it would be chaos, now the aprte The only thing that really worries about mining is, if communication is achieved, mining would be the main problem.

Of course. Radio waves are essential in areas where there's lack of electricity. It's no wonder why people living in third-world countries use them the most. Now that it's possible to send/receive Bitcoin through radio waves, people from such countries will be able to adopt it at a fast pace. This benefits crypto/Blockchain tech's mainstream adoption as a whole. As far as mining is concerned, I believe it can be easily achieved through alternative energy sources like solar, wind, or even water (hydroelectric power). Nodes and miners constitute the backbone of the Bitcoin network, so as long as there are plenty of them distributed worldwide, we should have nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts

[syedakhlaque]

It is good news that it has become possible to send bitcoin through radio waves. It is a good development in the fields of technology. This new technology will take time to dominate over the internet but it is happy news that transaction  of cryptocurrency through radio waves has taken a start. I wonder what would be there in the world for the next five or ten years regarding advanced technology.