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June 20, 2022, 08:34:10 AM
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the internet is just the means of transferring data, it is totally incidental. if the internet is one day replaced by a better mode of data transfer, bitcoin transaction data will be sent on that instead. figuring out solutions to internet shutdowns only makes the network more robust.


In my honest opinion, the whole point of Bitcoin is to be a decentralized payment network on Internet.
You making it "without internet" completely ruin the fundamentals of the project itself.

Maybe make your own cryptocurrency which works on satellite? Smiley
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June 20, 2022, 04:30:22 PM
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In my honest opinion, the whole point of Bitcoin is to be a decentralized payment network on Internet.
You making it "without internet" completely ruin the fundamentals of the project itself.

Maybe make your own cryptocurrency which works on satellite? Smiley

OP asked about Bitcoin mining which is a bit different than payments. Bitcoin mining makes excellent use of stranded power, which often times occurs in places without good internet.

Also, that decentralized bit improves the less we rely on incumbent sources of power and internet.
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June 22, 2022, 06:06:45 PM
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As a beginner i think that is an interesting subject but is that really possible?
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June 24, 2022, 01:39:14 AM
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mining withut the internet is possible onyl for educational purpose  Grin with pencil and paper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dqhixzGVo like the other said mining need communicate with other and internet is the bridge

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June 24, 2022, 04:05:28 AM
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Mining without internet might actually be an interesting concept. Could you perhaps translate electrical signals through a phone/fax line to a computer with internet and somehow mine that way? Perhaps you could set up entire mining operations like that and have it all going back and forth between miners connected through the ethernet, sending and recieving signals (Which are translated from phone signals to code and from code to phone signals? You would still need internet at the end node though. I imagine the entire ordeal might not be doable due to how long it would take and phone lines cannot really compete with the internet as a mode of signal transfer for something as complex as mining?

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June 24, 2022, 02:42:22 PM
Last edit: June 24, 2022, 03:08:31 PM by Coinfarm ventures
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I imagine the entire ordeal might not be doable due to how long it would take and phone lines cannot really compete with the internet as a mode of signal transfer for something as complex as mining?
I do think mining over a 56 Kbps modem might be possible. I have technical experience writing code with the Stratum protocol. First of all, the machines would need to be connected to a local Stratum proxy. The proxy will need to set a high enough share difficulty to minimize back-and-forth communication with the pool. Since BTC has long block times, there should be no problem broadcasting the jobs over 56 Kbps or even 10 Kbps. Even if the latency is 1 second, that will only result in a stale rate of 0.17%. Even for coins with fast block times like ETH, dialup could work.

But I would turn to tall 4G antenna or even a 3G modem first. Worst case, IPv4 over ham radio.
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