HELP ON REFUND] Wrongy sent $3,900 worth of BTC plus .022 BTC

[hotdog7]

It started on January 4th  11:31AM, when I received an email stating that, I am glad, it would be possible for you to write me a review about our transaction, it is important to be reliable, in the same way I will write positive for you. Thank you. Please write to my email: thiago007-btc@protonmail.com.

Received another email around 11:42AM to thiago007-btc@protonmail.com saying, Thanks for the great communications and service you provided in this transaction. You are A++ seller and this was a smooth transaction.

Around 1:00PM, I received an email from Thiago <thiago007-btc@protomail.com> asking me,  Did you check your Denarium ?  all good?  please reply.  I sent an email at 1:13PM saying, Yes. Thanks.

Another email received around 2:04PM from Thiago <thiago007-btc@protomail.com>,  Great! By the ways Your spot #25 reservation must be confirmed cause you're a newbie Just send MrCryptHodl a private message and include your email. I have other awesome collectibles if u need anything lets me know. Have a great day!

Around 4:12PM, an email received from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, please confirm here if you want to pay with btc or eth or usdt?

At 4:15PM, I received email from Thiago007 <tinguardian@tutanota.com stating, MrCryptHodl tried to contact you by email but you didn't reply, did you cancel your order or just didn't get his email?

At 5:40PM, I sent email to MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, I would like to pay by usdt using Paypal. At 5:44PM, I sent an email to Thiago <thiago007-btc@protomail.com> asking him, Did you send me the email at 5:40PM or not?

At 5:51PM, I received an email  from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Sorry, paypal is not accepted Only cryptocurrency like btc or eth or usdT (Not USD). Anyways here your btc payment address:14DZXsuRKPExNbAn8Wsdy2Y5U53GR626Bj
If you need to pay with Eth lets me know and Once paid send me your shipping address, Do you prefer DHL or FedEX?.Another email at 6:02pm from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating,
Yes i confirm that i'm MrCryptHodl i'm very sorry for the confusion my bad, you can also confirm this with thiago007.
MrCryptHodl,
Did you send me an email around 4:12pm, asking me the below?
Please confirm here if you want to pay with btc or eth or usdt?
Hotdog7

At 6:03PM, I received email through Bitcoin Forum noreply@bitcointalk.org stating that, Yes i confirm that i'm MrCryptHodl i'm very sorry for the confusion my bad, you can also confirm this with thiago007.
MrCryptHodl

At 6:12PM, I received email from “Hillman 321” through Bitcoin Forum noreply@bitcointalk.org stating that, Hi hotdog7, Are you still interested in this slot:? At 6:22PM, I received email from “Hillman 321” through Bitcoin Forum noreply@bitcointalk.org stating that, Sorry for asking, its because MrCryptHodl asked you to contact him but didn't see a reply from you and thought you've canceled your order. At 6:39PM, I received email from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Forgot to give you the total price lol:
Price : 3900$[in BTC] = 0.08481 BTC  (Current market price)
For the loading = 0.021 BTC
Total = 0.10581 BTC
Again once paid please send me your shipping address.
MrCryptHodl

At 6:57PM, I reply back to MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Just to confirmed at the time of pre-payment only the 3900$ will be payable, the loading must be sent before the chips are sent when they will be revealed?
At 7:07PM, I received message from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, The production time will be 2-3 months for the whole from the moment of the payments, The chip will be sent to you fully loaded if you pay for all.

At 9:00PM, I sent an email to: thiago007-btc@protonmail.com stating, Did you send me this email because it is a different email? The next day, January 5th at 9:55AM, I received email from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Still didn't get your payment, When will you be able to pay ? if not i will have to cancel your order. Payment to : 14DZXsuRKPExNbAn8Wsdy2Y5U53GR626Bj

At 10:23AM, I received email from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, You order of #25 1HoDLCUB Fine Gold 999.9 Bitcoin chips, has been canceled due to payment delay. At 10:24AM I received email from thiago007-btc@protonmail.com  stating that, Your order was canceled ?

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On Wednesday, January 5th, 2022 at 6:04 AM, thiago007 <thiago007-btc@protonmail.com> wrote:
Yes gaither, that's my email because some messages from other members including you are not being delivered to me so i tried to contact you from this one.
Have a great day!
thiago007

I reply back at 10:36AM, Ok.At 10:39AM, I received email from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Just got a message from thiago007 no problem, Please pay within one 4 hours.Address: 14DZXsuRKPExNbAn8Wsdy2Y5U53GR626Bj
At 10:42AM, I received from thiago007-btc@protonmail.com stating that, Please check your email you should get a message from him soon.
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On Wednesday, January 5th, 2022 at 7:36 AM, Rod Gaither <rgait54360@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 10:33:54 AM EST, thiago007 <thiago007-btc@protonmail.com> wrote:
Its not too late just go fast and edit your comment! its okay i will talk to him

At 10:43M, I respond back to MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Ok. At 11:55AM, I received email from MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, You're welcome. All payment addresses are sent when i'm online sorry if it wasn't a good time for you gaither. Any exact time for your payment ?
At 12:11PM, I respond back that I just came out of a meeting. I will send it within 10 minutes. At 12:24PM, I sent email to MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, I just sent the $3,900. Let me know when you received it. Then, I will send the other .021 for loading. At 12:36PM, I sent respond email to MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating, Done. You should have it any minute. My shipping address.
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 12:31:15 PM EST, mrcrypthodl <mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com> wrote:
Received, But you must send the loading amount now because they will come only loaded.
Amount: 0.021 BTC
Please send the rest  to the same address within 30 Min, Also i need your shipping address ?.

Have a great day!
1HoDLCUB

.0842BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/2451afa3b4efdd6c3927a017ff827dcfb05b886ae2b130415a3e55d1fca1f7d4

.021 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/2799f20665c923121a6f044acb3094b20cc3f9cb584c95c7875bb730fadd1b44

On January 7th morning, I noticed that I was not mark paid. So, I sent an email to MrCryptHodl mrcrypthodl@mailfence.com stating  that I noticed that I am not mark "paid" on the bitcointalk forum. January 8th, it was brought to my attention from another user that he could not PM me through Bitcoin Forum.

On January 9th at 2:19PM, I felt the pattern started again with another user I bidding on. I received email from Kyptowerk Kryptowerk@protonmail.com stating, Hello,
Just got contacted by thiago007, You bid was accepted!
I will send the payment address here by email if you win.
Thank you, Kryptowerk

At 3:23PM, I received another email from Kyptowerk Kryptowerk@protonmail.com stating that, Please reply here if you get this email. Kryptowerk  At 3:26PM, I respond back with, You need to send a PM through Bitcointalk. At 9:20PM (while the auction was still going on), I received PM through BitcoinTalk Forum stating,  
Congrats hotdog7!

You won the auction, Here is your payment details:
Lot 1 - .03BTC
Lot 2 - .003BTC
Total+ Shipping: 0.0332

Pay to: 1NRPf1ZajQdLXB1fjMW2PbEAskVQwLbNZx
Once paid send me your shipping info.

Kryptowerk
Quote from: hotdog7 on January 09, 2022, 08:11:15 PM
Lot 1 - .03BTC
Lot 2 - .003BTC
I sent a reply on the auction did he send me a PM.
Then 10:00PM, I received a email from Buriks through Bitcointalk Forum stating, Did you ask Kryptowerk to cancel your bid why?
https://bitcointalk.oгg/index.php?topic=5379578.0
Lesson here, always goes with your gut instite


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Quote from: hotdog7 on January 09, 2022, 08:19:30 PM
So you can take 20$ from it before you refund me tomorrow as an apology.

Thanks.
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Sent .018BTC last night


refund sent, and do not charge the $ 20 since only the transaction fee is a lot you should use the Btc segwit chain otherwise the fees are very high.
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Quote from: hotdog7 on Today at 02:11:01 PM
I do not understand the message about the refund.

It was just a technical suggestion, your refund will arrive at any time to the address you sent me. Have a nice day.
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Quote from: hotdog7 on Today at 02:17:55 PM
Ok. Do you have a tracking number for Hodl Chips?

..  You canceled the purchase and I am refunding what you paid.  I don't understand what you mean by tracking number ..
your funds were sent only which takes a few minutes since they are from the exchange.
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Quote from: hotdog7 on Today at 02:29:08 PM
I did not canceled. How can you refund my BTC what I sent you already.

Buddy your funds were refunded, check your messages you asked me to give you back because you needed it for something.
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Quote from: hotdog7 on Today at 02:29:08 PM
I did not canceled. How can you refund my BTC what I sent you already.

maybe someone stole your account or something


 
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Quote from: hotdog7 on Today at 02:41:34 PM
I never sent this. I guess you are correct.

I'm sorry I don't know what happened to your account but you must be careful..you must use stronger passwords ... open a topic that your account was hacked


Out another .018BTC. It is hard to continue to do busy here. I have another transaction to conduct with Kryptowerk to complete. Now, I do not know what to do here.

This was too easy for this scammer to get into this Forum and work me so much and Thiago007. I feel that I never seen this money again, I will seek all legal means and report FTC and other agencies.

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[suchmoon]

What a jumbled mess... how hard can it be to describe the issue clearly and concisely?

Anyway, from what I can understand you were looking at e-mails instead of logging in to check actual posts/PMs and possibly you also got tricked by a fake/phishing site (note the fake-looking "r"):

Code:

https://bitcointalk.oгg/index.php?topic=5379578.0

Is actually:

Code:

https://bitcointalk.xn--og-hlc/index.php?topic=5379578.0

[BlackHatCoiner]

Code:

https://bitcointalk.oгg/index.php?topic=5379578.0

But this isn't a valid domain name, is it?

[suchmoon]

But this isn't a valid domain name, is it?

True, it shouldn't work (not without some additional effort like a DNS hack but at that point why not just fake the actual bitcointalk.org), but it's really hard to follow what actually happened there. Perhaps OP is just a slob and typed the URL manually and put the wrong "r" in it.

[theymos]

Anyway, from what I can understand you were looking at e-mails instead of logging in to check actual posts/PMs and possibly you also got tricked by a fake/phishing site (note the fake-looking "r"):

Right, hotdog7 was apparently phished. The link uses strange characters to evade bitcointalk.org's detection of phishing links, but it was actually linked to a phishing site via [url].

[suchmoon]

Anyway, from what I can understand you were looking at e-mails instead of logging in to check actual posts/PMs and possibly you also got tricked by a fake/phishing site (note the fake-looking "r"):

Right, hotdog7 was apparently phished. The link uses strange characters to evade bitcointalk.org's detection of phishing links, but it was actually linked to a phishing site via [url].

But the timeline (as far as I could figure it out) is that the link was PMed (?) on Jan 9, but the money was sent (apparently to scammer(s)) on Jan 5.

[Kryptowerk]

Just to make it clear
Kryptowerk@protonmail.com
is not owned by me but obviously by a scammer.  

I only communicate via this profile about any trading happening on Bitcointalk.

Good luck with retrieving your funds, hope you can figure something out. But don't get your hopes up high.
Also please pm me about the latest auction if possible. Thanks.

[thiago007]

I am very sorry that the experience here has been so bad, I remember from the beginning I suggested you use escrow, another important rule here almost nobody communicates outside the forum, I think you can still do business but always use escrow we have minerjones and others from that way is safer, another thing you should keep in mind is that if your account was compromised is that someone knows your accounts or otherwise your passwords are easily stolen and you should pay attention to that.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I have seen this quite often lately - people receive a link and click it, thinking they are going to a forum thread. however, they should know that if it is prompting them to log in again that they are not on the forums. The best bet is to always just navigate to the thread the old fashioned way or to at least verify the the actual path of the links being received.

Really sorry to see this happening so much recently.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It's unfortunate that this scammers continue to succeed in reaping unsuspecting victims off their hard earned money.
It's been a long time since I clicked links on emails last, except for the ones am really sure of, alot of my friends have had their bitcoin web wallet hacked due to clicking links sent to them via email, they think it's their real wallet and ones they log in, In a matter of minutes, they discover that all they had in the wallet have gone, it's really heart breaking.
I hope nemesis catch up with those behind this evil act.

[ultrloa]

It's unfortunate that this scammers continue to succeed in reaping unsuspecting victims off their hard earned money.
It's been a long time since I clicked links on emails last, except for the ones am really sure of, alot of my friends have had their bitcoin web wallet hacked due to clicking links sent to them via email, they think it's their real wallet and ones they log in, In a matter of minutes, they discover that all they had in the wallet have gone, it's really heart breaking.
I hope nemesis catch up with those behind this evil act.

People should learn to ignore what email has been sent to them since scammers are using this kind of method to scam people and this is repitative one so hopefully many learned their lesson about not trusting up immediately on what they see especially when we are talking about money here. Verify is always the best action to avoid seeing the same case like this in future.