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January 13, 2022, 06:35:40 PM Merited by buwaytress (1) |
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I don't think we have a thread yet and the competition started today. If there is a thread, let me know and i will nuke this one. Lots of teams with different covid problems and that will influence the results big time. Special game of day one is my Croatia against France, real handball classic. Unfortunately I doubt we have a chance in this game. We are missing some very important players. Russia and Spain won their games but much tougher than expected. Those should have been walk in the park and it was competitive all to the end.
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January 13, 2022, 06:41:30 PM |
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Hey, always here to support the guys I know ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Last year was probably a record year for me in that I actually started following and betting on new sports. Not seriously, but enough to know a little more than I did before: American football, baseball, even MMA. Not sure I'll ever start following Handball, but it's popular where I live now and I have seen probably more handball teams than any other (apart from football) walking around in my neighbourhood (their jerseys say so). I put money down on Croatia @5.32 despite your advice. Classic match? Then the underdog must prevail!
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January 13, 2022, 07:50:42 PM |
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I put money down on Croatia @5.32 despite your advice. Classic match? Then the underdog must prevail! Thanks for the vote of confidence but I will be very surprised if we lose with less than 5 goals difference. We will have big problems in attack unless something totally unexpected happens. Not gonna watch the game since I am going to play some football with my buddies. Maybe just some parts while driving ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Well they actually did comeback before the break, just 2 goals down, and at 2 stages also came the same margin, but ended up 5-goal difference as you predicted. New things I learn about handball: also 2 halves, but 30 minutes each. Old thing I didn't need to learn: I can't throw jackshit with even my strong arm.
I might martingale on underdog on next bet. Dangerous paths should never be trodden with a small bankroll though.
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January 14, 2022, 03:28:14 PM |
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I watched a bit of Croatia - France game and it's first time when I saw 3 players left on the pitch. 2 Croatia players got 2 min suspension, another was sent-off. I think it was decisive moment, until it Croatia were fighting well. I'm happy that my country finally returned to EURO after 24 years break. We lost to Russia and bad start was main reason, we let them too far by 7 goals, but in the end we were close to make comeback. We had some bad luck, like hitting crossbar several times. Main surprise so far - Netherlands win against host Hungary.
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January 14, 2022, 04:24:45 PM |
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I watched parts of Croatia game and we played better than I expected but France had full control of the game all the time. They played as much as was needed and had a lot of reserve to use when needed.
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January 15, 2022, 12:45:37 PM |
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I watched parts of Croatia game and we played better than I expected but France had full control of the game all the time. They played as much as was needed and had a lot of reserve to use when needed.
The Croatian team is rejuvenated and does not have enough experience yet, and some key players were missing because of Covid. However, I was positively surprised by these young players and I think that there is a lot of quality in the Croatian team and hope for a better future of Croatian handball. The Croatian young men were not afraid of the French and played a great game. The match against Serbia is crucial for Croatia and they have to win it if they want a good result in this competition and I believe they have the quality for that. This whole championship is pretty weird to me because almost all the teams play without a lot of players because of Covid and they are pretty much weakened. I think it would have been much better if the organizers had postponed this competition until the situation with Covid normalized.
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January 15, 2022, 01:17:42 PM |
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This whole championship is pretty weird to me because almost all the teams play without a lot of players because of Covid and they are pretty much weakened. I think it would have been much better if the organizers had postponed this competition until the situation with Covid normalized.
That gives advantage to national teams that have strong national leagues in my opinion. They simply have much more quality on the bench and bigger player pool to choose from. That should be France, Spain and Germany. I watched a bit of Iceland and i am thinking they are back to fighting for top positions after couple of weaker years.
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January 15, 2022, 09:37:38 PM |
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I'm really surprised about Russia win against Norway. Russia squad on paper isn't something special, but they were leading almost whole game. For us championship ended just after 2 games. Yeah, we will paly against Norway, but we don't have chances to reach next round and it looks too difficult to beat Norway. Same like in first game, today we let Slovakia far early, almost made comeback in 2nd half, but in general, Lithuania didn't played good handball today. Congrats @Trofo with Croatia win. Now you have good chance to reach next round from difficult group, considering that in last round you will paly with underdog Ukraine, while Serbia will face France.
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January 16, 2022, 11:29:48 AM |
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I'm really surprised about Russia win against Norway. Russia squad on paper isn't something special, but they were leading almost whole game. For us championship ended just after 2 games. Yeah, we will paly against Norway, but we don't have chances to reach next round and it looks too difficult to beat Norway. Same like in first game, today we let Slovakia far early, almost made comeback in 2nd half, but in general, Lithuania didn't played good handball today. Congrats @Trofo with Croatia win. Now you have good chance to reach next round from difficult group, considering that in last round you will paly with underdog Ukraine, while Serbia will face France.
Croatia really played a great game and deservedly beat Serbia. Unfortunately, nothing in this group has been resolved yet and it could easily happen that Croatia does not go further in the competition. I'm sure that Croatia will beat Ukraine in the last round, but if Serbia beats France, then Croatia will drop out of the competition. If we had at least managed to beat Serbia with a bigger goal difference, we would have been in a much better situation and now we depend on France.
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January 16, 2022, 03:54:45 PM |
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Congrats @Trofo with Croatia win. Now you have good chance to reach next round from difficult group, considering that in last round you will paly with underdog Ukraine, while Serbia will face France.
Croatia really played a great game and deservedly beat Serbia. Unfortunately, nothing in this group has been resolved yet and it could easily happen that Croatia does not go further in the competition. I'm sure that Croatia will beat Ukraine in the last round, but if Serbia beats France, then Croatia will drop out of the competition. If we had at least managed to beat Serbia with a bigger goal difference, we would have been in a much better situation and now we depend on France. I am not worried, France will do their part of the job. They would be stupid to go easy in this game since you transfer points in Handball. It is nowhere the same situation if France goes trough with 4 points (if they win against Serbia) or with 2 points if they loose. Much better for them to play it seriously and than Serbia should have no chance.
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January 19, 2022, 10:44:18 PM |
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Bump As I predicted, it was easy job for both Croatia and France, second group here we come. Croatia now has 9 covid positive players so it is unrealistic to expect some kind of team cohesion and stellar handball. We had to call 6 new players for this next stage. If you think that is bad, Germany has 12 positive players and they are considering forfeiting the competition and going home. Measures are really funny this time around, when the ball gets out of the play to the stands it is immediately removed from the play and disinfected. On the other hand players are at the hotels mixed with tourists who don't care about masks and measures. Crazy world we live in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 19, 2022, 11:10:21 PM |
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To summarize things which happened in group stage, probably only surprise that Slovenia got eliminated. In last EURO they achieved 4th place. Now teams split in 2 groups with 6 teams and only 2 will go to semifinals. Measures are really funny this time around, when the ball gets out of the play to the stands it is immediately removed from the play and disinfected. On the other hand players are at the hotels mixed with tourists who don't care about masks and measures. Crazy world we live in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Indeed, crazy world. Team which will have least covid cases probably will win ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Still bettter than Hockey junior World championship. Whole tournament got canceled because maybe 4 players of 3 teams got infected. And st the same time it was allowed to held wedding party in same hotel.
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January 20, 2022, 06:41:39 PM |
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Easy money today if you followed info I posted yesterday: Montenegro to win was @4.8 Spain to win was @1.7 In the end it was not even a contest in those 2 games. It is impossible for teams to play with so many new players and no time to work on game flow.
I still have one more game for tonight, Island +6.5. I watched Island and they were great so far and I could not believe they would offer me +6.5 handicap @1.85. I am a little afraid only because I did not see Denmark play yet and all the players are putting them up as first favorites for the tournament so I guess they are very good but still that is a big handy and I had to take it.
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January 23, 2022, 07:37:17 PM |
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I was very surprised to see such big Iceland win against France yesterday. France were heavy favorites before the game, but they had no chance and lost 21:29. Impressive end in Russia - Poland game. Poland scored goal with few seconds remaining and took a minimal lead. But Russia responded with buzzer-beater goal from middle of court and game ended 29:29. And no, Poland didn't played without goalkeeper on final Russia attack. Now very interesting game between Spain and Norway started.
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January 23, 2022, 09:24:29 PM |
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I was very surprised to see such big Iceland win against France yesterday. France were heavy favorites before the game, but they had no chance and lost 21:29. Impressive end in Russia - Poland game. Poland scored goal with few seconds remaining and took a minimal lead. But Russia responded with buzzer-beater goal from middle of court and game ended 29:29. And no, Poland didn't played without goalkeeper on final Russia attack. Now very interesting game between Spain and Norway started.
That Iceland game was the easiest money I made ever while betting. I expected a close game and they gave +6.5 handicap on Iceland as I wrote above. Good thing handball goes my way since AFCON is screwing me hard. Norway gave a lesson to Spain today and I was especially impressed how good they were in defense. Sagosen who was their star player is playing very mediocre tournament and still they are looking superb. There will be big fight in this group between Spain, Norway and Sweden. Spain should be secure even though they lost today and Norway will have to beat Sweden for their chance. That game will end with 45 goals so play under while the lines are still high.
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January 24, 2022, 12:37:14 PM |
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Bump.
Some new games today and couple of tips from my side. Iceland ML against Croatia @1.45, Iceland was great this tournamnet, we have more than half of our first team with covid and nothing to play for. Good tip is also Iceland -2.5 @1.95 but that is much riskier Why is Denmark such favorite against Netherlands that I can take -12.5 handicap on Netherlands @1.5? I guess that is due to past H2H but this is a new team and they played very well this tournament. I am taking it and hoping there is not some news where all main Dutch players have covid.
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Have I stayed alone in this topic? This starts to feel like monologue and I am really sorry for that since handball championship is a good chance to take some money from the bookies. Only thing keeping me in the green while AFCON destroys my multi bets. Norway will have to beat Sweden for their chance. That game will end with 45 goals so play under while the lines are still high.
I hope somebody took under in this game. It really was free money. While we are on the subject, did you guys see how Norway lost? They had +4 few minutes before the end ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) @buwaytress Hey man, I have one tip just for you today. Denmark-France draw @8.5, to be played after Iceland wins their game. If Iceland does not win then this game is not important and it is better to play over or skip. If Iceland wins and they should France needs a point to pass trough, Denmark needs a point to pass as winner of the group. Could very easy finish as low scoring draw.
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January 26, 2022, 10:32:32 AM |
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I did promise to try and follow this a bit but after the Croatia loss (as close/far as Trodo predicted) it slipped off my radar. As it turns out I have a bit of time today so I'm going to follow his pick for this one, AND actually watch the game thanks! Snuck in a pick at 9.14 (with daily price boost on Sportsbet).
BTW you said above Sweden Norway under? But official results show over 45... or am I reading it wrong? Yes, handball semi-virgin here. Nice call on Netherlands handicap, barely made the handicap though!
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January 26, 2022, 11:49:33 AM |
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BTW you said above Sweden Norway under? But official results show over 45... or am I reading it wrong? Yes, handball semi-virgin here. Nice call on Netherlands handicap, barely made the handicap though!
I said it will be a game of 45 goals, it finished with 47 or 48 I don't remember exactly but under/over line was set at 53.5 for 1.9 odds and lowest under you could have taken was 51.5 @2.2 unless there is somebody out there offering even more choices (maybe Pinnacle) which would again almost certainly be above the actual goals scored. So basically all under pre match bets you could have made would be winning ones, even all team under bets, or half time under bets. My advice was simply to take all under markets whenever you find them.
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