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January 19, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
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It's probably my first post on this mining board so spare me if i share anything you already know or not correct.I am not mining sort of person and have little or say no knowledge about this mining with all that stuff like ASIC machines and those rigs.But familiar with the procedure as technical working of Bitcoin is cleared to me.

Just wanted to share with you guys that Bitmain a name all mining community is familiar with as manufacturing mining rigs and supplying them across the globe has now launched Antminer S19 Pro + HYD as the latest one to help the miners

 

It is supposed to be built over liquid cooling technology that can boost the hashpower which seems impressive to me as a normal man who is not much familiar with the mining business.

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The mining machine will have a hashrate of 198 TH/s, power efficiency (@ 35°C) of 27.5 joules per terahash (J/TH) and will consume 5445 watts of power, according to a tweet.

In comparison, the previous top-of-the-line Antminer, S19 XP, has a hashrate of 140 TH/s, power efficiency (@ 25°C) of 21.5 J/TH and consumes about 3010 watts.

The new model will also incorporate the “latest liquid cooling technology” and is designed for use with Bitmain's Antspace HK3 mining container.

The adoption of liquid cooling has been increasing in recent years as an alternative to traditional air-cooling, which allows mining machines to be immersed in a synthetic hydrocarbon compound liquid that has no electrical conductivity and is fully biodegradable.

This specialized liquid can reduce heat, power consumption and noise stemming from the computers, as well as prolong the lifespan of the machines, allowing miners to maximize profit in an increasingly competitive market.

The Shipping date for the same is May-Sept 2022 and for additional information you can visit their official site : Bitmain Antminer S19 Pro

My doubt how much productivity will it enhance? and what extra benefits will it have over the past ASIC machines?

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January 19, 2022, 10:33:06 PM
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My doubt how much productivity will it enhance? and what extra benefits will it have over the past ASIC machines?

It has its benefits, it probably runs a lot cooler, dust-free, a lot less noise, but at the end of the day, it's just an overclocked S19 that will sell for a lot of money, judging by the previous hydro version Bitmain had which is the S9 hydro and how unpopular it was, I don't see how this one is going to be any different unless the price tag makes a lot of sense.

The S19 XP is a lot more effienct with 21w/th vs the hydro with 27.5w/th, which is pretty similar to the S19 pro.

The main strong point would be the noise part, but what I don't understand about the design is the 3 phase (5445w), this isn't home grade mining, so it has to be industrial for the most part, and industrial-grade miners don't give a damn about noise as far as I am concerned, however, a lot of companies gamble with their clients' money, which is why I won't be surprised if they buy these gears at a premium.


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January 20, 2022, 07:45:00 PM
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The main strong point would be the noise part, but what I don't understand about the design is the 3 phase (5445w), this isn't home grade mining, so it has to be industrial for the most part, and industrial-grade miners don't give a damn about noise as far as I am concerned, however, a lot of companies gamble with their clients' money, which is why I won't be surprised if they buy these gears at a premium.

I was a bit confused by this as well.  Seems like this sort of miner would be much better targeted at home miners with 110v power and a 1,500 watt power usage.  I've always thought it was weird how mining companies target large datacenter operations in spite of Bitcoin supposedly being invented with a distributed security model in mind.  I hope at some point (maybe Intel?) producers of mining equipment make an attempt to get Bitcoin back in the spirit of which it was created.  We seem to have fallen so far from Bitcoin's original intent that people aren't even pretending to care about the principles anymore, they just want to make the most money they can off this tech before they destroy it.  Which seems to be the inevitable course of things.

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My doubt how much productivity will it enhance? and what extra benefits will it have over the past ASIC machines?

It has its benefits, it probably runs a lot cooler, dust-free, a lot less noise, but at the end of the day, it's just an overclocked S19 that will sell for a lot of money, judging by the previous hydro version Bitmain had which is the S9 hydro and how unpopular it was, I don't see how this one is going to be any different unless the price tag makes a lot of sense.

The S19 XP is a lot more effienct with 21w/th vs the hydro with 27.5w/th, which is pretty similar to the S19 pro.

The main strong point would be the noise part, but what I don't understand about the design is the 3 phase (5445w), this isn't home grade mining, so it has to be industrial for the most part, and industrial-grade miners don't give a damn about noise as far as I am concerned, however, a lot of companies gamble with their clients' money, which is why I won't be surprised if they buy these gears at a premium.
Well as I point out in the Thread about Intel's announcement to produce mining chips for new builds liquid cooling makes perfect sense. The pics I have posted in that thread are an eye opener from a fan and PSU maint point of view...

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198TH/s at 5445W (funny numbers, can't they round them up ?)10% increase in efficiency over the S19j series, but for how much extra $???

The main strong point would be the noise part, but what I don't understand about the design is the 3 phase (5445w), this isn't home grade mining, so it has to be industrial for the most part,

It's definitely not for home mining, when I checked the voltage, 342~418, lol, yeah, nice!
They didn't even put a price on it, probably they will only sell them in private deals.

Well as I point out in the Thread about Intel's announcement to produce mining chips for new builds liquid cooling makes perfect sense. The pics I have posted in that thread are an eye opener from a fan and PSU maint point of view...

Liquid cooling makes sense over normal air cooling especially in a not-so-controlled environment but once you have millions to throw around why not go fully nuts and into immersion cooling? Once you deal with thousands of units isn't immersion by the dozen easier to manage and cheaper than a system per unit?

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Holy hot DAMN!  Talk about the Cadillac.  Screw immersion.   This is just running water/glycol through heat exchanger plates mounted as heat sinks.   No overpriced fluid.   Whole turn key solution.
If this market keeps going to shit maybe the price point might even be attractive.
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Liquid cooling makes sense over normal air cooling especially in a not-so-controlled environment but once you have millions to throw around why not go fully nuts and into immersion cooling? Once you deal with thousands of units isn't immersion by the dozen easier to manage and cheaper than a system per unit?

Yeah, exactly what I'm thinking. I don't think the cost of immersion would be more than this system. You still need pumps, plumbing, and large dry-cooler. The heat exchangers on every hashboard probably end up costing more than the immersion fluid for a single miner would be. And when they are obsolete, there might not be another miner you can drop in to replace them. In an immersion setup you can use any miner, any manufacturer.

Only drawback for immersion is maintenance can be messy, need to clean all that dielectric fluid off with solvent. But hopefully, you wouldn't need to do much maintenance. No fans in either case anyway.

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