Another "Legednary" newbie

[TheBeardedBaby]

It is about time to post another "amazing" "Legendary" newbie with "big" contribution to the forum.

They've been around for quite some time, earned over 1200 activity with their 4540 posts, but unfortunately only 0 Merit since June 22 of 2018, otherwise they could be a 100% Legendary in only 2 more activity rounds but instead they stuck on "newbie" for almost 4 years.

Hope the guy won't get me wrong, I don't mean he is a bad guy in any way... it's just statistics.
So Here I present to you.

Daniel Khan





Here comes another "Legendary" guy, with 1442 Activity but less posts, "only" 4041, still active today.

akhmadfirmansyahcibi

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[PX-Z]

An example of why the merit implementation is useful, if merit isnt implemented, this guy will be a legendary member already with the help of Bounties section.

[Charles-Tim]

I noticed one thing about bounty hunters, they prefer to have no topic created but having links submitted for bounties which make their posts to be many. Check both accounts to find this to be true again. Even if having topics, it will be scanty and full of bounty-like contents.

An example of why the merit implementation is useful, if merit isnt implemented, this guy will be a legendary member already with the help of Bounties section.

Merit system was a good implementation.

Edit:
Please, know that this is not a ridicule, but just to show how merit system has been helping.

[mocacinno]

I have always felt that those bounty reports should have been done off-forum... Either on a dedicated site that was built for nothing but handling those bounty users, or maybe even in a google spreadsheet document directly.

I think they add nothing to the forum, nobody is interested in those reports, nobody is learning from them, nothing is being discussed,... it's just baseless dribble that's basically pre-formatted to be fed to a data-entry drone. It's not only that they add nothing usefull, it's what they do add: a strain on bitcointalk's resources (eventough i don't think Theymos has ever complained about this, they do add thousands of useless records in bitcointalk's relational database, they consume bandwith, they consume cpu cycles) and they also add a strain on every *real* user that wants to look at the last unread posts without filtering out those bounty hunter infested subforums, or the ones that look at the patrol page once in a while.

But hey, i'm just a user... As long as Theymos doesn't complain it's not up to me to make such decissions.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Type of people distinguished by their "stability" When everyone has changed their cars, phones, apartments, jobs, and sometimes husbands and wives, these people do not change anything in their lives and do not change themselves.
I know such people who have been working in the same job for decades and not striving for the best. I looked into their wallets, there is also a "swamp"
We can say that this is a well-tuned bot, no matter how offensive it is to the owners of such accounts.

[Poker Player]

No wonder their rank is still newbie, their post history is crap. I wonder wether they are bots as lovesmayfamilis says.

I have always felt that those bounty reports should have been done off-forum... Either on a dedicated site that was built for nothing but handling those bounty users, or maybe even in a google spreadsheet document directly.

I think they add nothing to the forum, nobody is interested in those reports, nobody is learning from them, nothing is being discussed,... it's just baseless dribble that's basically pre-formatted to be fed to a data-entry drone.

I think the same, what value do these post histories bring to the forum? I think nothing, I think that if the bounty sections of the forum are kept it is because Theymos considers that it would be worse if they were migrated to another forum.

Does the forum earn any revenue with the bounties?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

An example of why the merit implementation is useful, if merit isnt implemented, this guy will be a legendary member already with the help of Bounties section.

And he might have done nothing malicious with Legendary status had he earned it, but there's a good chance he might have more than one account with that rank by now and might be eyeing bitcoin-paying signature campaigns that generally pay more if you've got more signature space to rent.  And what would then happen?  Spam city....which is precisely what the situation was prior to the merit system.

Thus it doesn't make me sad or happy or bring a giggle to my deviant brain that these >1000 activity Newbies exist.  All I am is satisfied that the merit system took care of those potential problems I mentioned.

[mocacinno]

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Does the forum earn any revenue with the bounties?

They do get to see the advertisement Theymos auctions off, but AFAIK, they pay a "flat rate" (so it doesn't matter if an advertisement has 1.000.000 or 5.000.000 views). Maybe it's interesting to tell a potential bidder for an advertisement slot that it usually receives x amount of views, and this "x" will be higher if you include those bounty users, but i doubt they actually generate much clicks (or revenue) for the advertisers.

An other thing might be that it has something to do with search engine rankings... A site that receives more daily updates might be ranked higher (i haven't done any SEO optimising for many, many years, so it might be possible that my SEO knowledge is grossly outdated).

[Lucius]

Last time someone post this kind of statistic/information, someone give those member a merit. Let's see whether it'll happen this time.

I doubt that most of these bounty hunters even know what is merit, they are focused on getting all their alt accounts to work as much as possible. There is no basis for such members to be promoted beyond the newbie rank, and more than clearly they have shown that this was never their goal.

Once again this picture speaks more than a thousand words...

[Rizzrack]

Last time someone post this kind of statistic/information, someone give those member a merit. Let's see whether it'll happen this time.

My first thought was "let's see if there is any post merit worthy". First guy posted exclusively bounty reports and the second one has some posts in Offtopic and a "good project". Disappointing... 

[mk4]

Do these people still make a decent amount of money on altcoin bounties in the first place? Like, I get it that these people most likely own multiple accounts, but last time I checked most of these bounty projects end up giving tokens that are worth nothing, or even end up not paying a single token at all.

[PrimeNumber7]

I have always felt that those bounty reports should have been done off-forum... Either on a dedicated site that was built for nothing but handling those bounty users, or maybe even in a google spreadsheet document directly.

I think they add nothing to the forum, nobody is interested in those reports, nobody is learning from them, nothing is being discussed,... it's just baseless dribble that's basically pre-formatted to be fed to a data-entry drone.
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They add page views, which affect forum ad revenue.

I don't know about the people in the OP, but I think there are a decent number of accounts that can be described similarly as those in the OP that are just in a bot. The bot will make various social media posts, and will post reports about what they posted on the forum. On the other end, those "reviewing" bounty reports are almost certainly bots.

So we have bots making posts, and bots "reading" posts, all the while, the number of page views is being padded.

The cost of a million bounty posts is likely not more than a few cents per month. Cloud SSD storage costs about $0.17/GB/month, or $0.34 for high availability. I don't see a million bounty posts taking up a GB of storage.

I think there are probably an outsized number of bounty hunter accounts that have purchased a copper membership. Copper memberships are priced in bitcoin, however, the price is periodically adjusted to be approximately $30. A single bounty hunter buying a copper membership is going to pay for multiple months worth of storage-related costs associated with all bounty posts.

I don't have a problem with bounty hunters. They generally stay in their section, so I never have to read their posts. So they don't burden me in any way.

[LoyceV]

I have always felt that those bounty reports should have been done off-forum... Either on a dedicated site that was built for nothing but handling those bounty users, or maybe even in a google spreadsheet document directly.

They add page views, which affect forum ad revenue.

As far as I know, the forum doesn't need money and theymos doesn't care about ad revenue. I still don't get how "proof of authentication" isn't considered an insubstantial post, thousands of spambots post the same crap millions of times. What's the use of that?
At least it's mainly concentrated on a few boards, so it's quite easy to avoid.

[Little Mouse]

Do these people still make a decent amount of money on altcoin bounties in the first place? Like, I get it that these people most likely own multiple accounts, but last time I checked most of these bounty projects end up giving tokens that are worth nothing, or even end up not paying a single token at all.

Decent amount of money? No, I think. I haven't participated in a bounty campaign in recent time. It was a year ago or two when I last time participated in a bounty. It was GEOMA Dao, I participated in a signature campaign for 3 weeks and sold $500 worth of tokens a few months ago. That's better than my current signature but I don't think it's decent. I have one telegram group where hunters share the most attractive/potential bounty. Haven't heard about someone getting a decent amount recently.

[Mpamaegbu]

I have always felt that those bounty reports should have been done off-forum... Either on a dedicated site that was built for nothing but handling those bounty users, or maybe even in a google spreadsheet document directly.

Honestly, I feel same way too. It used to sadden me those days I participated in bounties to report weekly tasks here. It made a mess of my post history. I guess a lot of bounty managers also observed that I moved weekly reports to Google sheets. I think hunters should key into bounties whose weekly tasks are reported on Google sheet. It helps sanitize and keep their post history neat. Besides, not so many users would like meriting posts from users whose post histories are littered with bounty reports. It's a great disservice to hunters themselves.

[Awaklara]

Once again this picture speaks more than a thousand words...

And also with this picture

[ShowOff]

Do these people still make a decent amount of money on altcoin bounties in the first place? Like, I get it that these people most likely own multiple accounts, but last time I checked most of these bounty projects end up giving tokens that are worth nothing, or even end up not paying a single token at all.

YOSHIE and other cheat hunters can certainly explain it well to you whether it will benefit them. But I can assure you that they not only work with one account, but may have dozens of accounts to join the same bounty all the time based on how cheat hunters have caught them so far.

But I don't understand why the manager hasn't been able to prevent them all this time.

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And also with this picture
[img]https://i.imgur.com/P7nhyBz.jpg[/img]

I know some of them on facebook, they are Indonesian traders community, see the bitcoin logo on their shirt. But I believe they seem to have bitcointalk account too. If they were a bounty hunter community, then the logic would be why they didn't have the ethereum logo on their clothes because ethereum was the most noble thing at that time among bounty hunters. 

[KingsDen]

OMG!
At first, I felt bad that Op's purpose of calling out these users has been misconstrued. I was so surprised that even as OP has called out these users, some generous merit sources like fillippone and LoyceV even commented on this thread and even merited some posts here, but have refused to send even 1 merit to any of the users. I was worried that I had to bookmark the users so that if I have smerit I will send to them.
But on a second thought I decided to see their posting histories, I was shocked to my marrows to see only links and no single post created. I have never seen this kind of thing before. No single worthy post to issue merit.

[suchmoon]

There are 16 such true legends (active in the last 30 days):

Inna Kulik activity: 1512, posts: 3263
akhmadfirmansyahcibi activity: 1442, posts: 4042
Cryptomonyet activity: 1372, posts: 3593
majelis37 activity: 1316, posts: 1933
nana9064 activity: 1260, posts: 3260
bitcoin4world activity: 1218, posts: 1874
Daniel Khan activity: 1218, posts: 4540
phungploi activity: 1204, posts: 1805
FHD2000 activity: 1204, posts: 1344
Jonaki50sa activity: 1176, posts: 3788
nitin8263 activity: 1120, posts: 2376
lider777 activity: 1092, posts: 1380
T4lit4z4hra activity: 1064, posts: 2600
IgorSh2018 activity: 1050, posts: 2801
@siva1978 activity: 1036, posts: 1675
Kamalpasha activity: 1036, posts: 2053

That's quite an achievement if you think about it. 2-3 thousand posts and not a shred of valuable contribution to this forum. I'd be shocked if any of them aren't just bots.

Edit: there are ~40 other users with 770+ activity, i.e. potential legendaries.

[dataispower]

An example of why the merit implementation is useful, if merit isnt implemented, this guy will be a legendary member already with the help of Bounties section.

They would have be legendary, that supppose to be acknowledge for introduction of merit system, when checking the account presented you would know without explanation that the users are specifically for bounties and is it will be that these people have another account that is in signature that made them to lack seriousness for not to earn the minimum of 5 merit's