A friend of mine says he cannot post anything

[pornluver]

I ask what is his username and all he sent is this picture

Remove pictures to protect account.

Actually what is his username? I tried to ask him for user id and give instruction. He seems not getting it.

[mocacinno]

This one?
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3435274

Uid 3435274

[DdmrDdmr]

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You’d have to be more explicit detailing what happens when he posts. The account does not seem to be banned not nuked (I’ve revised the seclog and refreshed his profile on BPIP and nothing indicates a ban/nuke).

He could give it a go from a different browser just to rule out something browser specific.

Note: Asked for the thread to be moved to B&H or Meta.

[hilariousandco]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3435274

It's not blocked or banned or anything. He's probably just not waiting 360 seconds before posting. Tell him to log in, wait for 6 minutes and then try posting.

[acroman08]

He's probably just not waiting 360 seconds before posting. Tell him to log in, wait for 6 minutes and then try posting.

I thought newly created accounts can post immediately after registering and wouldn't have to wait 6 minutes before they can post and the 6 minutes timer only starts after the newly created account posted anything.

[Welsh]

Worth noting OP. You've included potentially sensitive information, since the user has their email hidden from the public, but your screenshot shows it despite it being somewhat low quality. Might be worth removing it, we don't actually need to see what it looks like on their side.

I thought newly created accounts can post immediately after registering and wouldn't have to wait 6 minutes before they can post and the 6 minutes timer only starts after the newly created account posted anything.

The account registered on Jan 16th. In all likelihood, the user is logging in perhaps even multiple days in a row, and then trying to post immediately after logging in, because I do believe that logging in counts as an action which triggers the waiting time between posts etc.

So, its not linked to the registration or being a new user per say, its the logging in, and then trying to post before the waiting time has expired.

[Shamm]

Why does this happen? As what we saw is the account was created last January 16 and these accounts was already 5 day old and base on my experience when I created this account after created I'll can post it immediately.
Why not try to refresh/restart his phone and try again to log in. Or log out the account then log in again.

[Welsh]

Why does this happen? As what we saw is the account was created last January 16 and these accounts was already 5 day old and base on my experience when I created this account after created I'll can post it immediately.
Why not try to refresh/restart his phone and try again to log in. Or log out the account then log in again.

As I stated above, logging in counts towards the posting time limit. It's in the unofficial rules by mprep:

Q: Why do I get the "The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago." error when I haven't posted today?
A: Logging in, sending PMs, searching via the forum's built in search engine and reporting posts to a moderator will also be counted as posting and extend this limit back to 360 seconds. Don't worry: as your activity increases, the 360 second limit will decrease as well. Here you can see the algorithm how the posting limit is calculated based on your activity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.msg4131557#msg4131557

So, logging in, and out again then trying to immediately post before the 360 seconds is up would yield the same result. As to why this has been implemented this way, it all likelihood its a SMF implementation, and not specific to this forum. Although, whoever its implemented by I suspect its just to try, and reduce spam from new users.

This is largely a non issue to most users, though for those that read the forum while not logged in, and then upon wanting to contribute to a discussion, try logging in, and then posting immediately then it would become an issue. I suspect most people log in before reading any discussions though, or simply leave themselves logged in permanently if they aren't using Tor etc.

So, removing this restriction would likely prove non beneficial to the vast majority of users, especially considering the limit decreases rather quickly as your activity increases. Also, most users won't mind waiting 360 seconds or their post would in most instances take longer than 360 seconds to write up.

[nakamura12]

As I stated above, logging in counts towards the posting time limit. It's in the unofficial rules by mprep:

This made me remember when I was a newbie before that I have to wait 360 seconds before I can post even though I haven't posted the day I log in on bitcointalk. I also agree that this shouldn't be removed or changed something like that as it could help avoid brand new accounts from spamming. 360 seconds is not much as it will take me minutes to write something to post.


Let that user change the address as I am sure many will see the address and it will be flooded with spam mails.

[Mpamaegbu]

Worth noting OP. You've included potentially sensitive information, since the user has their email hidden from the public, but your screenshot shows it despite it being somewhat low quality. Might be worth removing it, we don't actually need to see what it looks like on their side.

That's true but then it's really blunt at my side. Perhaps many won't be able to make out what's in the complete email address apart from the "gmail" suffix I suspect I'm seeing there. Come to think of it, if it's a gmail account (that's what most hunters use) I don't think the user will care much for its privacy if bounty hunting is his aim being here. Bounty reports often bear hunters' email addresses on the spreadsheets. One way or the other, the user is more likely to still expose it.

[decodx]

I see that no one here has mentioned proxyban (evil fees) yet. Could it be that the user registered an account from an abused IP range and is required to pay an evil fee in order to post?

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

If this is the case, there is a topic started by LoyceV on how to remove the evil fee for free:
Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free

[acroman08]

I see that no one here has mentioned proxyban (evil fees) yet. Could it be that the user registered an account from an abused IP range and is required to pay an evil fee in order to post?

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

If this is the case, there is a topic started by LoyceV on how to remove the evil fee for free:
Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free

it is possible but I've read somewhere that the account will receive a message saying that they can't post or send PM due to evil points. it would be nice if OP could clarify whether his friend's account received such a message after creating the account.

[Findingnemo]

I see that no one here has mentioned proxyban (evil fees) yet. Could it be that the user registered an account from an abused IP range and is required to pay an evil fee in order to post?

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

If this is the case, there is a topic started by LoyceV on how to remove the evil fee for free:
Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free

it is possible but I've read somewhere that the account will receive a message saying that they can't post or send PM due to evil points. it would be nice if OP could clarify whether his friend's account received such a message after creating the account.

If I am not wrong only the user can see how much amount of evil points they got and how much BTC they need to spend on their home not in the profile if I am not wrong. But I feel he just tried to post something immediately after the logging in causing the issue since this is just a newbie account so he need to wait and grow up the account to reduce the waiting time.

[Stalker22]

I see that no one here has mentioned proxyban (evil fees) yet. Could it be that the user registered an account from an abused IP range and is required to pay an evil fee in order to post?

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

If this is the case, there is a topic started by LoyceV on how to remove the evil fee for free:
Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free

it is possible but I've read somewhere that the account will receive a message saying that they can't post or send PM due to evil points. it would be nice if OP could clarify whether his friend's account received such a message after creating the account.

Yes, I believe the message only appears after registering a new account (and maybe after each successful login - I am not sure), but I do not think it is visible on the user's profile page or to other forum members. I agree that this is something OP should discuss with his friend and ask for clarification. As decodx pointed out, there is a procedure on how to remove proxyban without paying the evil fee.

[PrimeNumber7]

Worth noting OP. You've included potentially sensitive information, since the user has their email hidden from the public, but your screenshot shows it despite it being somewhat low quality. Might be worth removing it, we don't actually need to see what it looks like on their side.

I thought newly created accounts can post immediately after registering and wouldn't have to wait 6 minutes before they can post and the 6 minutes timer only starts after the newly created account posted anything.

The account registered on Jan 16th. In all likelihood, the user is logging in perhaps even multiple days in a row, and then trying to post immediately after logging in, because I do believe that logging in counts as an action which triggers the waiting time between posts etc.

So, its not linked to the registration or being a new user per say, its the logging in, and then trying to post before the waiting time has expired.

I think there is a pretty strong argument to say that logging in (nor reporting posts) should count towards the 360 second (or however many seconds the account is subject to having to wait) limit. It may make sense for some accounts to have a higher wait time for reporting posts.

I can’t think of any reason why someone should have to wait 6 minutes to post after logging in. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that someone may read many posts while not logged in, find something interesting, log in, and try to post.

[LoyceV]

I see that no one here has mentioned proxyban (evil fees) yet. Could it be that the user registered an account from an abused IP range and is required to pay an evil fee in order to post?

No:

It's not blocked or banned or anything.

I can’t think of any reason why someone should have to wait 6 minutes to post after logging in. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that someone may read many posts while not logged in, find something interesting, log in, and try to post.

It's probably just a bug that's not really worth fixing, just like logging in for the first time tells you something failed, but if you just registered you can ignore the message (I don't remember the exact wording).

[PrimeNumber7]

I can’t think of any reason why someone should have to wait 6 minutes to post after logging in. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that someone may read many posts while not logged in, find something interesting, log in, and try to post.

It's probably just a bug that's not really worth fixing, just like logging in for the first time tells you something failed, but if you just registered you can ignore the message (I don't remember the exact wording).

At least with the first-time login bug (I know what you are referring to), the user will be notified and is given clear instructions on how to resolve the issue. Having to wait 6 minutes after logging in is not obvious to anyone new to the forum, even if they read the sticky threads in meta.

I am not familiar with the SMF codebase, but I imagine it would not be terribly difficult to not count someone logging in as an action that a user needs to wait an amount of time in order to post.

[pornluver]

Okay here is the news

He hasn't post anything.

He got a message saying he needs to wait 360 seconds.

That message doesn't seem to go away no matter how long he wait

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3435274;sa=showPosts

Here is the issue.

He is in Afganistan.

Maybe that's the issue too.

[LoyceV]

He is in Afganistan.

The only reason I can think of is a very bad internet connection that makes him login again each time, but still it doesn't make much sense to me.

[Cheap Afghan worker]

The thing is that i can not find any option by the name of posting ! this is the big problem of mine