Legendary merit stats

[ShowOff]

I admit that I have a good feeling on the forum especially about how I reached Legendary rank. I managed to get 524 merit so far and I was promoted to Legendary at the end of October 2021. I'm excited for that, and I've stated it in a few posts too.

However, I would also like to say that after Legendary was achieved, the amount of merit earned from November to now seems to have been greatly reduced. I've only received 24 merit since then until now although I also keep trying to post something useful. I don't know how many people ignore my post than it deserves, it doesn't matter to me. But I just want you to correct me about do I get more merit because I also believe that it can help other users? I currently have 0 sMerit, it makes it hard for me to appreciate other users' quality posts.

So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

[Charles-Tim]

So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

Yes, but I do receive merits. There are sometimes I have 0 smerits left and there are sometimes I wish to merit but no smerits left. There are also sometimes I wish to give more than 1 smerits but I have to give 1 so that I will be able to distribution more smerits to quality and useful posts.

If you think you can offer your time to read quality posts and merit the posts, you can as well apply for merit source. You are an established member already.

I do not think it is wrong for who feels this way to apply for merit source if he is an established member.

But above all, merit system is still work perfectly.

[BlackHatCoiner]

You post mostly on the Gambling section. I don't know how those people merit, I've never written a letter in the Gambling section, but I'm sure that there are much less merit sources active there. This must be the main reason if we assume you're providing some quality content.

There are also sometimes I wish to give more than 1 smerits but I have to give 1 so that I will be able to distribution more smerits to quality and useful posts.

And this is what you should do. Whoever doesn't have enough sMerits (and want to become a source) should just show they recognize a notable post.

If you think you can offer your time to read quality posts and merit the posts, you can as well apply for merit source.

From my experience, you just need to do the above. Don't create another merit source application; show to the admins you know what's a high quality post. Actions speak louder than words.

[SatoPrincess]

I admit that I have a good feeling on the forum especially about how I reached Legendary rank. I managed to get 524 merit so far and I was promoted to Legendary at the end of October 2021. I'm excited for that, and I've stated it in a few posts too.

However, I would also like to say that after Legendary was achieved, the amount of merit earned from November to now seems to have been greatly reduced. I've only received 24 merit since then until now although I also keep trying to post something useful. I don't know how many people ignore my post than it deserves, it doesn't matter to me. But I just want you to correct me about do I get more merit because I also believe that it can help other users? I currently have 0 sMerit, it makes it hard for me to appreciate other users' quality posts.

So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

I believe there has been talk before about legendary rank get more merits than other ranks. I suggest you look back at your recents posts, what has changed in your post history. Are you posting in boards that are visited by merit sources? Like BlackHatCoiner said, it is common knowledge that posts in gambling section do not get many merit neither do altcoin discussion.
Another reason might be cause you are a legendary member now your posts may not have as much merit as a newbie or junior member who made the same post because sometimes posts are rewarded for effort and not always quality. So a lower rank may be rewarded for putting effort into a long post that has no new information whereas a legendary will not get the same reaction as he is assumed to know more. It is not easy to have earned 1000+ merits that is enough to show your value. Any reduction in your merit count could be as a result of several factors: Merit sources focusing on newbies and those who need merit to rank up, merit sources not being active on the forum e.t.c

[KingsDen]

However, I would also like to say that after Legendary was achieved, the amount of merit earned from November to now seems to have been greatly reduced.

1. When one is striving to achieve a certain rank, he puts up some certain efforts to achieve such a rank. When that rank is achieved, there's a tendency of not maintaining momentum. Which I think is your case.

2. You are legendary fellow and older than me here, you should know too well that the merit system is working. There was when I was being so bothered if I don't have smerit to give to quality posts. I was even advised to bookmark them so that I can merit when I have smerit. But it never worked for me. At a time I stopped bothering about smerits when I knew there are merit sources doing the work well.

3. The distance between merit and gambling discuss posts is about 20kms.

4. If you want to increase your merits, stop relaxing as legendary, help answer newbie questions, engage in thread discussions and involve in sanitising the community.

[suchmoon]

So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

The grass is always greener on the other side. If you ask newbies they'll tell you that legendaries are getting all the merits even though they don't "need" them.

The only thing that really matters is whether good posts (regardless of who posted them) are getting merited and if you feel that's not the case - report them here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0

[philipma1957]

I admit that I have a good feeling on the forum especially about how I reached Legendary rank. I managed to get 524 merit so far and I was promoted to Legendary at the end of October 2021. I'm excited for that, and I've stated it in a few posts too.

However, I would also like to say that after Legendary was achieved, the amount of merit earned from November to now seems to have been greatly reduced. I've only received 24 merit since then until now although I also keep trying to post something useful. I don't know how many people ignore my post than it deserves, it doesn't matter to me. But I just want you to correct me about do I get more merit because I also believe that it can help other users? I currently have 0 sMerit, it makes it hard for me to appreciate other users' quality posts.

So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

Yeah I will tell you why you are getting screwed.

1024 makes you look like an old legend that was given 1000 and shit posted his way to 1024.

So many simply skip over you.

When I saw your thread title I wondered if you were an old legend and thought I would not bother reading the thread.

However I did and I also bothered to post a likely explanation of the issue.

Also gave you 2 merits.

[Charles-Tim]

You post mostly (https://ninjastic.space/user/id/537721) on the Gambling section. I don't know how those people merit, I've never written a letter in the Gambling section, but I'm sure that there are much less merit sources active there. This must be the main reason if we assume you're providing some quality content.

I think merit source do post on gambling threads, but are most posts on gambling threads merit worthy if compared to posts on boards that users highly receive merits.

From my experience...

Chipmixer is full of high quality posters of the top rank if ranking should be considered, this was theymos favourite while choosing merit source the last time (I guess), maybe probably more merit source are needed compared to good and active posters that applied.

Don't create another merit source application; show to the admins you know what's a high quality post. Actions speak louder than words.

Has ShowOff created merit source application before? I did not know if he had. This are the lists of recent merit source applications that I know and ShowOff is not among.

[BITCOIN4X]

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So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

Sometimes you have to think that once a Legendary is achieved then merit are just a reward for each of your quality posts (no longer a requirement to rank up). I checked your post history and it's true that you have a habit of posting on gambling board but that doesn't make you 100% post something there. I was able to find some of your posts on several other boards including local board, beginners and help and etc. That's great because you don't just focus on one board, but sometimes some of your posts can still be missed by merit source or other users because the merit system is not moderated and people will judge what they deserve.

Don't worry, you'll also get the attention merit source deserve if your posts are what they want. Just do what you find useful.

[Pmalek]

What I have noticed is that if some quality members are close to reaching a higher rank, the community sort of rallies together to help them get there quicker. There is no malicious coordination between members. It's just people recognizing that a quality poster deserves something extra to reach that new rank. When that happens, and it might have happened to you, people might start giving more attention to other members who are in a similar situation. That's why you might feel like you are getting neglected recently. But don't think too much about it. It's just a dry spell. Quality gets rewarded sooner or later.

You have threads like the one Ratimov created, for example. The one where he takes a look at members who are close to new ranks and those guys often receive some extra attention from the community.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

ShowOff, if you're wondering why the number of merits you've received since you hit Legendary rank has fallen off a cliff, just take a look at how many I gave you prior to you hitting Legendary.  It was 199 merits out of the 524 it took to rank up, which I was trying to help you do.  Now that you can't rank up any further, I'm not reviewing your post history anymore and, as usual, am saving my sMerits for lower-ranked members who need them.

That's my theory as to why that happened to you; it's not because you don't make good posts, because you do.

What I have noticed is that if some quality members are close to reaching a higher rank, the community sort of rallies together to help them get there quicker.

That's precisely it, and I don't think there's any other reason for ShowOff's merit-earning drop.

[LoyceV]

after Legendary was achieved, the amount of merit earned from November to now seems to have been greatly reduced.

I checked your Full Merit history, and it looks like you received Merit in bulk a few times:

Merit received by ShowOff (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until January 14, 2022 (source)

This was mostly from The Pharmacist, who no doubt did his "Merit source post review thing" where he searches your posts for good ones and sent you 38% of your total earned Merit. Let's call it vendor lock-in
I also noticed I've never Merited you, although I've seen your username around the forum. But you mainly post in Gambling, Speculation and Indonesian, and those aren't boards I often visit.
I don't have time to go over your full post history, so I have a request: Can you post links to some of your best posts in [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (quote this post in that topic if you want)? If I agree (and can read them), I'll Merit them.

[lovesmayfamilis]

What worries you the most? Are your posts underestimated? Or that you can't help others rate their posts? Suchmoon gave you good advice, if you can't earn someone else's posts, just show them to the sources of merit.
As for your posts, it's more of a problem with you than with others. Correspond to your rank, no need to blame someone, start with yourself.

[SatoPrincess]

From my experience...

Chipmixer is full of high quality posters of the top rank if ranking should be considered, this was theymos favourite while choosing merit source the last time (I guess), maybe probably more merit source are needed compared to good and active posters that applied. know and ShowOff is not among.

Chipmixer and bestchange signature have a reputation for having only the best participants wearing their signature. The least rank on either of these campaigns is hero member. Most of the participants in Chipmixer and bestchange are merit sources. Which brings me to another observation: The signature campaign “syndrome”

I'll speak out my personal view about this, it may not be true for everyone. Once I read the replies of a thread, I'll ignore most of the users that participate on a low-paying signature campaign, by the thought that they are shit posters. But, that may not be true. I observe a form of prejudice. I'll actually take a closer look to a post made by a high-quality signature campaign participant rather than a newbie.

[BlackHatCoiner]

I think merit source do post on gambling threads, but are most posts on gambling threads merit worthy if compared to posts on boards that users highly receive merits.

I don't think they're many, just like they aren't in the Altcoin discussion. Yes, they may be 3-4, but compared with Bitcoin Discussion, Development & Technical Discussion, Bitcoin Technical Support etc., they're few.

maybe probably more merit source are needed compared to good and active posters that applied

Theymos recently (half year ago?) increased it to 111 merit sources. I don't think we'll have new ones in the near future.

Has ShowOff created merit source application before? I did not know if he had.

No, I meant to not create one. Not that he has already applied.

The least rank on either of these campaigns is hero member.

The required rank to enter in either of those is Sr. Member. But, what does it have to do with the topic of this thread?

Most of the participants in Chipmixer and bestchange are merit sources

Nah, from a quick glimpse, they're around 16 from ChipMixer. Is there one from BestChange that I don't see?

[lovesmayfamilis]

Most of the participants in Chipmixer and bestchange are merit sources

Nah, from a quick glimpse, they're around 16 from ChipMixer. Is there one from BestChange that I don't see?

As I know COOLCRYPTOVATOR,hugeblack

[Charles-Tim]

maybe probably more merit source are needed compared to good and active posters that applied

Theymos recently (half year ago?) increased it to 111 merit sources. I don't think we'll have new ones in the near future.

That post was not about applying for merit source.

I thought you will understand the way I constructed it before, but let me make it more direct this time. People applied for merit source, some were taken based on their activeness and quality posts, but some members were taken from Chipmixer which did not apply for merit source at all (correct me if I am wrong), I noticed. Although, it is worth it if true.

Chipmixer is full of high quality posters of the top rank if ranking should be considered, this was theymos favourite while choosing merit source the last time (I guess), maybe probably more merit source are needed compared to good and active posters that applied.

So I am directing this not for people to apply for merit source, but those that did not apply but were taken. About merit source, even if it will take 5 years from now before theymos will select new merit source, is there anything bad to apply? Even if the person is not taken, nothing to lose.

As I know COOLCRYPTOVATOR,hugeblack

CryptopreneurBrainboss was among before he left the campaign and still he is a merit source.

@ShowOff, the best answer, from suchmoon. You can report unmerited posts be it yours or others to merit source.

[Lucius]

From my experience, you just need to do the above. Don't create another merit source application; show to the admins you know what's a high quality post. Actions speak louder than words.

If he wants to be a merit source, then it makes sense to ask for it publicly, because otherwise, he can wait years for the admin to notice it - and without sMerits to show that he knows what quality post is, he may stay under the radar forever. I know that admin has granted merit source status to some members who did not ask for it, I wonder why I didn't get the chance, my actions don't speak louder than words

So did some of you suffer the same fate as me?

I had periods of about ten days in a row that I didn’t get a single merit, and I was active on the forum every day. But such things happen, few can expect a constant influx of merits for their good posts - I'll just tell you it's not just about the quality of the posts, there are members who see a much broader picture when they give merits - your name, nationality, avatar, signature campaign, political views and the like can sometimes be crucial.

[BlackHatCoiner]

hugeblack

How did I skip hugeblack...

People applied for merit source, some were taken based on their activeness and quality posts, but some members were taken from Chipmixer which did not apply for merit source at all (correct me if I am wrong)

You're not wrong, theymos indeed chose many ChipMixer participants for the merit source position even if most of them didn't apply.

About merit source, even if it will take 5 years from now before theymos will select new merit source, is there anything bad to apply?

Of course it's fine, I just stated my perception of things in this sector.

I wonder why I didn't get the chance, my actions don't speak louder than words

Judging by the admin, they may not speak loud enough, but definitely louder than words. That's my life motto.

[Daniel91]

I think it is quite normal that there are certain periods when you will not get merits.
It has happened to me often on this forum and I don’t worry too much about it.
Many members of this forum have a very limited number of available merits and therefore must carefully choose and consider to whom they will give that small number of available merits.
One of the criteria for this decision can be the forum rank, of course.
If you want to have more merits available, I suggest you to apply for merit source.