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January 29, 2022, 02:05:04 PM
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Arbitrage trading must be really tempting and gaining profits from short and quick trades is like a dream for many newbies.
But unfortunately, things are not that easy. If it would have been that easy then everybody would have been doing that.
Even I had tried Arbitrage trading back when I was a newbie in trading but what I learnt from experience makes me never wanna do it again.
It's very common to find out that by the time you transfer your coins to that particular exchange to gain benefit of arbitrage, the price difference gets settled again.
This has lead to paying transaction fees unnecessarily. To gain potential benefits of arbitrage trading you should have accounts on many different exchanges with some amount of money in all of them.
This way you don't miss out on the time it takes to transfer the coins and paying unnecessary fees.
Eventually, I don't think there is more profit in Arbitrage trading these days since most of the exchanges don't really have huge differences in prices.

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January 30, 2022, 11:21:14 AM
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Arbitrage trading is very risky nowadays, especially if we’re talking about altcoins as well as it’s trading and withdraw transaction fees. I am usually using Newscrypto’s arbitrage tool with live prices for me to decide which coin or token is the best to arbitrage trading. However, despite that it saves me time from looking at the other sources in getting me accurate results for abritrage trading a specific cryptocurrency, there are no guarantees or promises that we could get the same result because these prices can change anytime rapidly without warning.

Very often, our calculations on the receipt of profits from arbitrage trading are crossed out by the unfair work of the exchange's employees. Thus, by the time your coins are withdrawn or credited, the price is no longer actual for making a deal.

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January 30, 2022, 11:32:30 AM
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Aaand guess what , when you do it in larger scale you might would have to stop doing that for a while as some exchange has their own policy regarding withdrawal limits.
Less risky but still at some point you could lose a lot , crypto often give us a surprise candlestick , we have witnessed it all , arent we ?

A dump down / pump up to 60 even 90 percent in just few minutes even secs! You would be damned if you are in between lol

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January 30, 2022, 11:58:11 AM
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Arbitrage trading must be really tempting and gaining profits from short and quick trades is like a dream for many newbies.
But unfortunately, things are not that easy. If it would have been that easy then everybody would have been doing that.
Even I had tried Arbitrage trading back when I was a newbie in trading but what I learnt from experience makes me never wanna do it again.
It's very common to find out that by the time you transfer your coins to that particular exchange to gain benefit of arbitrage, the price difference gets settled again.
This has lead to paying transaction fees unnecessarily. To gain potential benefits of arbitrage trading you should have accounts on many different exchanges with some amount of money in all of them.
This way you don't miss out on the time it takes to transfer the coins and paying unnecessary fees.
Eventually, I don't think there is more profit in Arbitrage trading these days since most of the exchanges don't really have huge differences in prices.

I was also very curious when I first got to know arbitrage trading, because in my opinion it looks easy. It turned out that after trying several times,
it was quite inconvenient and we had to take into account many things, especially the issue of withdrawal fees. Because each exchange has
a different withdrawal fee. Then sometimes each exchange also has different rules, besides we have to register on many exchanges to be able
to do arbitrage trading, we also need to study the terms and conditions of each exchange. My painful experience when doing arbitrage trading,
when I transferred coins to other exchanges, the price of the coins suddenly dropped before I sold them. Because sometimes the movement of
crypto is quite fast, in the end it's not the profit that I get, but i have to lose for paying the withdrawal fee. Moreover, as you said, the price
difference between exchanges is now not much different. It's no longer effective for now to run arbitrage trading, now it's better to make money
through spot trading or futures trading.

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Amazing. what people read. I thought. that I write into the void...Arbitration is initially an incomprehensible word for most people. People are getting smarter little by little.
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January 30, 2022, 03:44:38 PM
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I was wondering if any of you tried arbitrage on the crypto market (I'm choosing this option because it is relatively less risky than normal trading, basically the main effort is to find those pricing errors and "exploit" them without incurring in a front-run).

Do you have any experience with this method, which software/programs do you use and what tutorials do you follow to learn it?
If you are doing it just because you think you could make money, then you are going to end up with a loss. There is an art to doing arbitrage and you need to understand the beauty of it. When you try to force yourself to make a profit out of it, then it will lose all the meaning of it, if you can't then just stop and try to keep looking. You may think why would I do arbitrage if I am not going to make a profit, but the reality is that you could just watch and wait for an opportunity for a long time if you can, which is what I am talking about.

The patiently waiting and searching period is the biggest one. Now that we have a million small fake looking swaps, it is even easier to make that arbitrage. You may not trust or even like a token, but there could be a chance to profit there. This is why the profit making part comes second, finding that profit part is the artistic part.

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January 30, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
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I was wondering if any of you tried arbitrage on the crypto market (I'm choosing this option because it is relatively less risky than normal trading, basically the main effort is to find those pricing errors and "exploit" them without incurring in a front-run).

Do you have any experience with this method, which software/programs do you use and what tutorials do you follow to learn it?
If you are doing it just because you think you could make money, then you are going to end up with a loss. There is an art to doing arbitrage and you need to understand the beauty of it. When you try to force yourself to make a profit out of it, then it will lose all the meaning of it, if you can't then just stop and try to keep looking. You may think why would I do arbitrage if I am not going to make a profit, but the reality is that you could just watch and wait for an opportunity for a long time if you can, which is what I am talking about.

The patiently waiting and searching period is the biggest one. Now that we have a million small fake looking swaps, it is even easier to make that arbitrage. You may not trust or even like a token, but there could be a chance to profit there. This is why the profit making part comes second, finding that profit part is the artistic part.
Not only doing good but also how to be fast and lucky with arbitrage trading way, some time when got chance to arbitrage several coin got trouble or unlucky with exchange market delay deposit or withdrawing until destination exchange for selling have lower price. Before you try with arbitrage check first have delay deposit or withdrawing on exchange market? you can see on telegram channel group because if have trouble with withdraw and deposit several coin, will be several member complaint there.

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January 30, 2022, 06:33:36 PM
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Arbitrage trading is very risky nowadays, especially if we’re talking about altcoins as well as it’s trading and withdraw transaction fees. I am usually using Newscrypto’s arbitrage tool with live prices for me to decide which coin or token is the best to arbitrage trading. However, despite that it saves me time from looking at the other sources in getting me accurate results for abritrage trading a specific cryptocurrency, there are no guarantees or promises that we could get the same result because these prices can change anytime rapidly without warning.

Very often, our calculations on the receipt of profits from arbitrage trading are crossed out by the unfair work of the exchange's employees. Thus, by the time your coins are withdrawn or credited, the price is no longer actual for making a deal.

Indeed, this arbitration activity has become quite popular among traders. We have tricked this several times in order to make a profit, but this must also be taken into account with the withdrawal time between the exchange and the target exchange, then the costs that must also be covered from profits because this kind of selection should not be missed. Fluctuating prices will be very risky and may not be profitable.

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January 30, 2022, 06:51:15 PM
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Trading in the stock market is a thing, but doing it in the crypto market is almost exclusively for professionals (and many people keep ignoring this) and takes years and years of hard study to make it work properly without liquidating your savings.

But I was wondering if any of you tried arbitrage on the crypto market (I'm choosing this option because it is relatively less risky than normal trading, basically the main effort is to find those pricing errors and "exploit" them without incurring in a front-run).

Do you have any experience with this method, which software/programs do you use and what tutorials do you follow to learn it?
Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.
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January 30, 2022, 09:28:56 PM
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Trading in the stock market is a thing, but doing it in the crypto market is almost exclusively for professionals (and many people keep ignoring this) and takes years and years of hard study to make it work properly without liquidating your savings.

But I was wondering if any of you tried arbitrage on the crypto market (I'm choosing this option because it is relatively less risky than normal trading, basically the main effort is to find those pricing errors and "exploit" them without incurring in a front-run).

Do you have any experience with this method, which software/programs do you use and what tutorials do you follow to learn it?
Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.

This is true. Because if you only have small funds in arbitrage trading, I don't think it is worth your doing this tedious activity for small to no profit. Better hold and wait for the coin to increase its value. But if you have lots of spare time, and good skills, why not? But later on, you will realize, you are spending a lot of time for small profits and you will get burnt out.
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 #51

Trading in the stock market is a thing, but doing it in the crypto market is almost exclusively for professionals (and many people keep ignoring this) and takes years and years of hard study to make it work properly without liquidating your savings.

But I was wondering if any of you tried arbitrage on the crypto market (I'm choosing this option because it is relatively less risky than normal trading, basically the main effort is to find those pricing errors and "exploit" them without incurring in a front-run).

Do you have any experience with this method, which software/programs do you use and what tutorials do you follow to learn it?
Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.

This is true. Because if you only have small funds in arbitrage trading, I don't think it is worth your doing this tedious activity for small to no profit. Better hold and wait for the coin to increase its value. But if you have lots of spare time, and good skills, why not? But later on, you will realize, you are spending a lot of time for small profits and you will get burnt out.
Small fund is not enough to pay fees and how to earn profit later, usually I begin with $1,000 for arbitrage trading but some time looking with how much buying order on exchange destination for arbitrage, some time have order buy volume almost $300 and I use only $300 for arbitrage, never take arbitrage fund above with how much buying order on destination exchange, I am not waiting for arbitrage for limit order sell position, always use instant selling when arbitrage coin from one exchange to other exchange market. Usually above $1,000 when arbitrage we can make profit above $100 and minimum I can earn 50$ of profit depend have still left with buy order, but if all buy order gone I will sell depend with price I bough and not good thing for holding as arbitrage.

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February 01, 2022, 11:36:10 PM
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Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.

I remember the time when it was possible to do without a bot for arbitrage trading, but now everything has changed and it is impossible for you to do without bots to get a profit. With such volatility in the cryptocurrency market, you can make a profit without wasting time on arbitrage trading.

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Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.
I remember the time when it was possible to do without a bot for arbitrage trading, but now everything has changed and it is impossible for you to do without bots to get a profit. With such volatility in the cryptocurrency market, you can make a profit without wasting time on arbitrage trading.
Bots are quick monsters, they are near instant and that is why it is near impossible for people to make that kind of return. I know that it is not something that people want to hear but if you want to do arbitrage then you need to do it with a bot, otherwise you can't do it.

I know that people are using bots in trading anyway and you could make profit manually trading even though there are bots. However this is not the same, the chance to make a profit manually on trading is valid but the chance to find arbitrage chances are not valid. This is why we need to realize that we could only make a profit in the arbitrage world with a bot, not because there are no chances but because we wouldn't be fast enough.

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Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.

I remember the time when it was possible to do without a bot for arbitrage trading, but now everything has changed and it is impossible for you to do without bots to get a profit. With such volatility in the cryptocurrency market, you can make a profit without wasting time on arbitrage trading.
Personally I never tried to manually try to look for arbitrage opportunities, however it does not surprise me at all to find out that this was possible to do so at some point in time in this market, but what happens is that this market is slowly moving from a bunch of people with libertarian ideals to institutional investors, and once that transition happened then it became quite more difficult to profit from the markets as they bring not only a lot of capital but their tools as well, and this includes arbitrage bots as well.
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Without a doubt you are going to need a piece of software to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities as it is impossible to take advantage of them otherwise, however do you have the capital to pull this off? Arbitrage trading can be profitable but since the profit of each trade is low and you need to have several accounts in different exchanges then the amount of money needed to become profitable is incredibly high, so unless you can fulfill this requirement then you should forget about it for the time being.

I remember the time when it was possible to do without a bot for arbitrage trading, but now everything has changed and it is impossible for you to do without bots to get a profit. With such volatility in the cryptocurrency market, you can make a profit without wasting time on arbitrage trading.
Personally I never tried to manually try to look for arbitrage opportunities, however it does not surprise me at all to find out that this was possible to do so at some point in time in this market, but what happens is that this market is slowly moving from a bunch of people with libertarian ideals to institutional investors, and once that transition happened then it became quite more difficult to profit from the markets as they bring not only a lot of capital but their tools as well, and this includes arbitrage bots as well.
Arbitrage is known which is a kind of trading which is almost risk free since you wouldn't lose nothing if its been executed well but once you do get yourself caught in some factors then you would really be

ending up a handful of coins into your portfolio which is something that you don't really like to happen.Yes, these method does exist but isn't something that simply could be done off.
In between exchange then you couldn't be sure about their legitimacy since most of the time this do talks about low caps or something.

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I learnt Arbitrage trading on binance and has been on it for a while basically I have no software that provides signals so this keeps me close to my monitor almost at all times except I choose not to trade at a certain time. True arbitrage trading is less risky but the profit made is very little and to get the little profit smartness and speed is needed. To me it's the most stressful
Do u mean traders send from one exchange to other just to exploit this price margin?
Not really, if you were to do that by the time your deposit was received in the exchange then the arbitrage opportunity would have disappeared, you need to have both bitcoin and fiat on both exchanges already, that way if for example the price of bitcoin at one exchange was 41k while in the second exchange it was 42k then you could buy bitcoin with fiat for 41k and then sell bitcoin at the other exchange for 42k, if you were able to get a full bitcoin then this will give you a profit of 1k in a single trade or a profit of 2.3%, the profits are small but if you can take advantage of opportunities like that your capital will slowly grow.
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Years ago you could make decent money by arbitrage trading with various exchanges. Back then they were less market makers and less liquidity.

I had many alerts and took advantage of 0.5-1% spreads on certain alt coins. These days however most bots are pretty high tech that they will beat you too it. You need to have some fast bot that quickly can add an order to the market to arbitrate it with another exchange. This is similar to how when there is a flash crash on one exchange but not others, usually within seconds that gap is filed by arbitrage bots. Not humans.

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Years ago you could make decent money by arbitrage trading with various exchanges. Back then they were less market makers and less liquidity.

I had many alerts and took advantage of 0.5-1% spreads on certain alt coins. These days however most bots are pretty high tech that they will beat you too it. You need to have some fast bot that quickly can add an order to the market to arbitrate it with another exchange. This is similar to how when there is a flash crash on one exchange but not others, usually within seconds that gap is filed by arbitrage bots. Not humans.


Crypto trading is getting more and more sophisticated and bots are getting very good at it. Hard to beat them now. Arbitrage may still be profitable in some alts. But if you don't now how to strategize on this trading, you may end up losing rather than earning profits. If the gain is very small, do you think it is worth the effort? This is why some are not going into arbitrage trading anymore. They prefer to just hold their assets.
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Years ago you could make decent money by arbitrage trading with various exchanges. Back then they were less market makers and less liquidity.

I had many alerts and took advantage of 0.5-1% spreads on certain alt coins. These days however most bots are pretty high tech that they will beat you too it. You need to have some fast bot that quickly can add an order to the market to arbitrate it with another exchange. This is similar to how when there is a flash crash on one exchange but not others, usually within seconds that gap is filed by arbitrage bots. Not humans.


Crypto trading is getting more and more sophisticated and bots are getting very good at it. Hard to beat them now. Arbitrage may still be profitable in some alts. But if you don't now how to strategize on this trading, you may end up losing rather than earning profits. If the gain is very small, do you think it is worth the effort? This is why some are not going into arbitrage trading anymore. They prefer to just hold their assets.
When it comes to short term trading and investing humans are still way better as they can look at all the nuances of the market and take a more informed decision, while a bot can only look at the parameters that you specified on the code, however when it comes to pure execution there is no comparison, bots are way better than humans, this means that arbitrage trading is specifically geared towards them as in arbitrage trading they only need to look at the price and see if there is a disparity, and if there is then they buy in an exchange and sell in another one.
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Years ago you could make decent money by arbitrage trading with various exchanges. Back then they were less market makers and less liquidity.

I had many alerts and took advantage of 0.5-1% spreads on certain alt coins. These days however most bots are pretty high tech that they will beat you too it. You need to have some fast bot that quickly can add an order to the market to arbitrate it with another exchange. This is similar to how when there is a flash crash on one exchange but not others, usually within seconds that gap is filed by arbitrage bots. Not humans.


Crypto trading is getting more and more sophisticated and bots are getting very good at it. Hard to beat them now. Arbitrage may still be profitable in some alts. But if you don't now how to strategize on this trading, you may end up losing rather than earning profits. If the gain is very small, do you think it is worth the effort? This is why some are not going into arbitrage trading anymore. They prefer to just hold their assets.
When it comes to short term trading and investing humans are still way better as they can look at all the nuances of the market and take a more informed decision, while a bot can only look at the parameters that you specified on the code, however when it comes to pure execution there is no comparison, bots are way better than humans, this means that arbitrage trading is specifically geared towards them as in arbitrage trading they only need to look at the price and see if there is a disparity, and if there is then they buy in an exchange and sell in another one.
Bots are indeed superior in terms of execution of commands which it couldnt be possibly be influenced with other external factors which we do know.
Human judgement and decision making could neither be beneficial or not depending on the situation thats why its really hard to make out conclusions that it is really worthless.
Arbitrage opportunities does exist but execution would really be affected by some factors which could neither results a profitable trade or not.
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