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January 25, 2022, 06:30:38 AM
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Good for you, FED increasing rates will also pump the S&P.

We already touched 65K right so that is somewhere in the region of the calculation so I consider it as the ATH and I expect the further price hike in the next cycle depends on lot of factors. Yesterday we saw another nose dive followed by 7% spike now again its in mid 36k but still I don't think its recovery I am waiting for the price to fall below, anything below 20K will be the good time for me to invest all the profits I made from the previous cycle.

I heard of Gareth Holoway predicted recently about this $20K drop actually. The guy I legendary when it comes to price forecast although he had said it months ago, it may come true one day when the bubble pops. If this bear market will be the same as what we experience in 2018, it may really drop below $20K. Hope it will not happen but there are just crises today that might affect everything like worsening the supply chain disruption and worse and worse coming war.

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January 25, 2022, 07:15:39 AM
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Good for you, FED increasing rates will also pump the S&P.

We already touched 65K right so that is somewhere in the region of the calculation so I consider it as the ATH and I expect the further price hike in the next cycle depends on lot of factors. Yesterday we saw another nose dive followed by 7% spike now again its in mid 36k but still I don't think its recovery I am waiting for the price to fall below, anything below 20K will be the good time for me to invest all the profits I made from the previous cycle.

I heard of Gareth Holoway predicted recently about this $20K drop actually. The guy I legendary when it comes to price forecast although he had said it months ago, it may come true one day when the bubble pops. If this bear market will be the same as what we experience in 2018, it may really drop below $20K. Hope it will not happen but there are just crises today that might affect everything like worsening the supply chain disruption and worse and worse coming war.
Hey bro, I wanted it to come below 20K Kiss then I am going to make huge investment and HODL until the peak of next ATH and this is my next big plan upto 2025 since I already invested on GOLD recently next is going to make investment from the money I have also expect few of my closed on also waiting for the perfect moment to jump into the market.

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January 25, 2022, 07:44:49 AM
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We already touched 65K right so that is somewhere in the region of the calculation so I consider it as the ATH and I expect the further price hike in the next cycle depends on lot of factors. Yesterday we saw another nose dive followed by 7% spike now again its in mid 36k but still I don't think its recovery I am waiting for the price to fall below, anything below 20K will be the good time for me to invest all the profits I made from the previous cycle.
Many speculations happen as they say that bitcoin price will recover soon, bitcoin price will go down for more, but that still speculation which we do not know will happen or it will not happen. What happened today is similar to what we already saw a few years ago when bitcoin reached $20k as the ATH and then the price dropped drastically in the next year and got the lowest price. So it already happened again this time but still, we do not know how much the lowest price of bitcoin is later but this time, bitcoin has a good movement. Even if suddenly, bitcoin price reach $20k, that will be the best time for us to invest more as the next bull run can be higher than the last ATH.

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January 26, 2022, 02:42:53 AM
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Good for you, FED increasing rates will also pump the S&P.

We already touched 65K right so that is somewhere in the region of the calculation so I consider it as the ATH and I expect the further price hike in the next cycle depends on lot of factors. Yesterday we saw another nose dive followed by 7% spike now again its in mid 36k but still I don't think its recovery I am waiting for the price to fall below, anything below 20K will be the good time for me to invest all the profits I made from the previous cycle.

I heard of Gareth Holoway predicted recently about this $20K drop actually. The guy I legendary when it comes to price forecast although he had said it months ago, it may come true one day when the bubble pops. If this bear market will be the same as what we experience in 2018, it may really drop below $20K. Hope it will not happen but there are just crises today that might affect everything like worsening the supply chain disruption and worse and worse coming war.
Hey bro, I wanted it to come below 20K Kiss then I am going to make huge investment and HODL until the peak of next ATH and this is my next big plan upto 2025 since I already invested on GOLD recently next is going to make investment from the money I have also expect few of my closed on also waiting for the perfect moment to jump into the market.

We all wish where the market should go. If it benefits you when the price dips below $20K, throw a coin in the wishing well and hope it will come true. But don't give the credit to the leprechaun because the market does what it does.  It may not make everyone happy but saving what we have to turn into stablecoin is what we can only do.

Gold is a good investment but its inflation is just not good for someone who wants to make money in the short term. If I have to invest in gold, I'd rather have it physically and not commodity funds.

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January 26, 2022, 04:07:45 AM
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Good for you, FED increasing rates will also pump the S&P.

We already touched 65K right so that is somewhere in the region of the calculation so I consider it as the ATH and I expect the further price hike in the next cycle depends on lot of factors. Yesterday we saw another nose dive followed by 7% spike now again its in mid 36k but still I don't think its recovery I am waiting for the price to fall below, anything below 20K will be the good time for me to invest all the profits I made from the previous cycle.

I heard of Gareth Holoway predicted recently about this $20K drop actually. The guy I legendary when it comes to price forecast although he had said it months ago, it may come true one day when the bubble pops. If this bear market will be the same as what we experience in 2018, it may really drop below $20K. Hope it will not happen but there are just crises today that might affect everything like worsening the supply chain disruption and worse and worse coming war.
Hey bro, I wanted it to come below 20K Kiss then I am going to make huge investment and HODL until the peak of next ATH and this is my next big plan upto 2025 since I already invested on GOLD recently next is going to make investment from the money I have also expect few of my closed on also waiting for the perfect moment to jump into the market.

If the price is to fall down all the way to $20,000 then let it happen. I would gladly wait for it and be happy that I get to be adding more while the price is down. But I doubt the price will go as low as that. It is a possibility but not likely happening. If it happens though, that would probably be just a quick dip. For sure a lot of Bitcoin investors will be buying a lot when the price touches $20,000. That would cause a quick rebound. That does not happen so often. It's an elusive opportunity.
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January 26, 2022, 04:15:43 AM
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If the price is to fall down all the way to $20,000 then let it happen. I would gladly wait for it and be happy that I get to be adding more while the price is down. But I doubt the price will go as low as that. It is a possibility but not likely happening. If it happens though, that would probably be just a quick dip. For sure a lot of Bitcoin investors will be buying a lot when the price touches $20,000. That would cause a quick rebound. That does not happen so often. It's an elusive opportunity.
Wait for it, I bet the price drop will happen because I have been in the situations when the price falls people whistles that this is the end of Bitcoin so it is going to zero means every investors sell immediately and atleast recover something but the same set of people whistles its going to 100K or million when its in bearish so I understand how people react do I am just going to be on their opposite which is the rich people's mindset. Yes, I understand the risk but I calculate the risk factors and go with my appetite only that is why I diversified my portfolio into gold and real estate as well which allows me to go hard st cryptocurrency investment.

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January 26, 2022, 07:52:55 AM
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If the price is to fall down all the way to $20,000 then let it happen. I would gladly wait for it and be happy that I get to be adding more while the price is down. But I doubt the price will go as low as that. It is a possibility but not likely happening. If it happens though, that would probably be just a quick dip. For sure a lot of Bitcoin investors will be buying a lot when the price touches $20,000. That would cause a quick rebound. That does not happen so often. It's an elusive opportunity.
Wait for it, I bet the price drop will happen because I have been in the situations when the price falls people whistles that this is the end of Bitcoin so it is going to zero means every investors sell immediately and atleast recover something but the same set of people whistles its going to 100K or million when its in bearish so I understand how people react do I am just going to be on their opposite which is the rich people's mindset. Yes, I understand the risk but I calculate the risk factors and go with my appetite only that is why I diversified my portfolio into gold and real estate as well which allows me to go hard st cryptocurrency investment.

The price right now is $37,000. That's too high for people to start thinking Bitcoin is going to zero. I don't think this is the same old dip in the past. When the price fell down from $20,000 to $3,000 in the past, people could think that was the end of Bitcoin, but when the price fell down from $69,000 to $37,000, I don't think it will have the same effect to them.

Do you have a certain timeframe within which the price of Bitcoin will finally hit $20,000?
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January 26, 2022, 08:09:28 AM
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Most of the people that started investing in 2021 only did it because they knew Bitcoin went from $1K to $20K about 4 years prior and they are expecting the same kind of returns.

So they take out a calculator and put $20K x 20 and are expecting a price of $400,000. So this is the reason why many retail didn’t take much profits before $100K hit. They all believed that planB guy on Twitter who said $100k was guaranteed in November and never took profits at $69K.

Same with people who bought ETH, they were expecting at least $10k and perhaps $5k and neither were hit.

Exactly, PlanB really put a lot of hype on bitcoin to go to $100k, last year, just saying.

And look at what happened right now, instead, the price goes on a nosedive. So for sure many are disappointed, but hopefully they can get back when the price sinks below $30k and then dream of that 6 digits again on the next bitcoin bullish cycle. So I believed that there is still good returns for bitcoin, but it might take years to make a huge returns.

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January 26, 2022, 10:25:07 AM
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If the price is to fall down all the way to $20,000 then let it happen. I would gladly wait for it and be happy that I get to be adding more while the price is down. But I doubt the price will go as low as that. It is a possibility but not likely happening. If it happens though, that would probably be just a quick dip. For sure a lot of Bitcoin investors will be buying a lot when the price touches $20,000. That would cause a quick rebound. That does not happen so often. It's an elusive opportunity.
Wait for it, I bet the price drop will happen because I have been in the situations when the price falls people whistles that this is the end of Bitcoin so it is going to zero means every investors sell immediately and atleast recover something but the same set of people whistles its going to 100K or million when its in bearish so I understand how people react do I am just going to be on their opposite which is the rich people's mindset. Yes, I understand the risk but I calculate the risk factors and go with my appetite only that is why I diversified my portfolio into gold and real estate as well which allows me to go hard st cryptocurrency investment.

The price right now is $37,000. That's too high for people to start thinking Bitcoin is going to zero. I don't think this is the same old dip in the past. When the price fell down from $20,000 to $3,000 in the past, people could think that was the end of Bitcoin, but when the price fell down from $69,000 to $37,000, I don't think it will have the same effect to them.

Do you have a certain timeframe within which the price of Bitcoin will finally hit $20,000?
This would be a helpful tool for dealing with it because there have been a lot of questions about it. Some people's mentality may never change, but we are passing a different phase. Can you anticipate what will happen next? We are now mature, the market is much more mature than before. Hopefully we won't touch that shit ever again.

Now that big whales are buying the dip, let's see if Bitcoin market can come back stronger as we hope it will.

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January 26, 2022, 12:14:52 PM
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If the price is to fall down all the way to $20,000 then let it happen. I would gladly wait for it and be happy that I get to be adding more while the price is down. But I doubt the price will go as low as that. It is a possibility but not likely happening. If it happens though, that would probably be just a quick dip. For sure a lot of Bitcoin investors will be buying a lot when the price touches $20,000. That would cause a quick rebound. That does not happen so often. It's an elusive opportunity.
Wait for it, I bet the price drop will happen because I have been in the situations when the price falls people whistles that this is the end of Bitcoin so it is going to zero means every investors sell immediately and atleast recover something but the same set of people whistles its going to 100K or million when its in bearish so I understand how people react do I am just going to be on their opposite which is the rich people's mindset. Yes, I understand the risk but I calculate the risk factors and go with my appetite only that is why I diversified my portfolio into gold and real estate as well which allows me to go hard st cryptocurrency investment.

The price right now is $37,000. That's too high for people to start thinking Bitcoin is going to zero. I don't think this is the same old dip in the past. When the price fell down from $20,000 to $3,000 in the past, people could think that was the end of Bitcoin, but when the price fell down from $69,000 to $37,000, I don't think it will have the same effect to them.

Do you have a certain timeframe within which the price of Bitcoin will finally hit $20,000?
This would be a helpful tool for dealing with it because there have been a lot of questions about it. Some people's mentality may never change, but we are passing a different phase. Can you anticipate what will happen next? We are now mature, the market is much more mature than before. Hopefully we won't touch that shit ever again.

Now that big whales are buying the dip, let's see if Bitcoin market can come back stronger as we hope it will.

We might hit $38k at any moment right now, so $20k might not happen in this month.
And on the contrary, if we hit $40k then obviously we are moving further away from the lowest low of $20k as someone has predicted.

So just hold on, we are seeing a good recovery this week and if this is sustainable at $40k, I would say that the bulls are definitely back in the market and will probably push the price higher again. I'm not saying that we will go to a new all time high again because that will be too much as it will really look artificial, but at least we are in the road to recovery again.

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January 26, 2022, 03:47:03 PM
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Bitcoin price already reached $65k+ previous year.I  believe  bitcoin price movement still correction. Bitcoin journey is long term for me actually most people journey start 2020-2021 but when bitcoin price was $400-$500 This time we had start journey. I hope bitcoin price will recover soon.Coz bitcoin is mots popular and most valuable coin.I hope bitcoin price will be more increase and it will be reach in $70k+ this year.
a correction is always part of the bitcoin cycle wherein after making all time high always expect as well that there will be a massive correction ahead before it continually making another progress.. "buy low and sell high".. That's what it is so don't be surprised after this current situation bitcoin will skyrocketed again. Infact last year bitcoin really achieved 2 consecutive all time high right? So obviously it getting stronger and for sure there will be more surprises within this year despite of some negative news and etc.
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January 26, 2022, 04:41:09 PM
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We might hit $38k at any moment right now, so $20k might not happen in this month.
And on the contrary, if we hit $40k then obviously we are moving further away from the lowest low of $20k as someone has predicted.

So just hold on, we are seeing a good recovery this week and if this is sustainable at $40k, I would say that the bulls are definitely back in the market and will probably push the price higher again. I'm not saying that we will go to a new all time high again because that will be too much as it will really look artificial, but at least we are in the road to recovery again.
I don't expect the $20K in this month or in few just waiting for the lowest low if we entered into bearish cycle. I saw that price again moved to mid $37K now so yes this is a small recovery from $33K region but can we consider this as recovery or just a dead cat bounce?

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January 26, 2022, 05:56:58 PM
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Bitcoin price already reached $65k+ previous year.I  believe  bitcoin price movement still correction. Bitcoin journey is long term for me actually most people journey start 2020-2021 but when bitcoin price was $400-$500 This time we had start journey. I hope bitcoin price will recover soon.Coz bitcoin is mots popular and most valuable coin.I hope bitcoin price will be more increase and it will be reach in $70k+ this year.
a correction is always part of the bitcoin cycle wherein after making all time high always expect as well that there will be a massive correction ahead before it continually making another progress.. "buy low and sell high".. That's what it is so don't be surprised after this current situation bitcoin will skyrocketed again. Infact last year bitcoin really achieved 2 consecutive all time high right? So obviously it getting stronger and for sure there will be more surprises within this year despite of some negative news and etc.
The cycle that occurs in the bitcoin market is indeed changing every year, but compared to 2018 the current decline is actually very bad, even the bitcoin price is getting depressed by the negative sentiment that continues to attack now, it looks like bitcoin is currently experiencing a slight increase in the market, do you think bitcoin has returned to a bullish path or is it just a trap before reaching a deeper price correction?

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January 26, 2022, 07:22:38 PM
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We might hit $38k at any moment right now, so $20k might not happen in this month.
And on the contrary, if we hit $40k then obviously we are moving further away from the lowest low of $20k as someone has predicted.

So just hold on, we are seeing a good recovery this week and if this is sustainable at $40k, I would say that the bulls are definitely back in the market and will probably push the price higher again. I'm not saying that we will go to a new all time high again because that will be too much as it will really look artificial, but at least we are in the road to recovery again.
I don't expect the $20K in this month or in few just waiting for the lowest low if we entered into bearish cycle. I saw that price again moved to mid $37K now so yes this is a small recovery from $33K region but can we consider this as recovery or just a dead cat bounce?
Bitcoin price already reached $65k+ previous year.I  believe  bitcoin price movement still correction. Bitcoin journey is long term for me actually most people journey start 2020-2021 but when bitcoin price was $400-$500 This time we had start journey. I hope bitcoin price will recover soon.Coz bitcoin is mots popular and most valuable coin.I hope bitcoin price will be more increase and it will be reach in $70k+ this year.
a correction is always part of the bitcoin cycle wherein after making all time high always expect as well that there will be a massive correction ahead before it continually making another progress.. "buy low and sell high".. That's what it is so don't be surprised after this current situation bitcoin will skyrocketed again. Infact last year bitcoin really achieved 2 consecutive all time high right? So obviously it getting stronger and for sure there will be more surprises within this year despite of some negative news and etc.
The cycle that occurs in the bitcoin market is indeed changing every year, but compared to 2018 the current decline is actually very bad, even the bitcoin price is getting depressed by the negative sentiment that continues to attack now, it looks like bitcoin is currently experiencing a slight increase in the market, do you think bitcoin has returned to a bullish path or is it just a trap before reaching a deeper price correction?



The expectations of 20k dollars are hard for now. The market again get to the pump, so you need to wait for the further rise. Now the price is trying to back to 38k$.Holding is necessary one in the cryoto. The pump market and dump market should be used to get good profit. Profit was a main target for the trading.Pump is the main target for the margin traders. They will sell with the less profit many times a day.
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January 26, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
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So far, long-term bitcoin investments have provided spectacular returns for most of its investors. We never really know if bitcoin can hit $100 in the next 1-4 years but if we go back in history how bitcoin proved ATH $69K is achievable then I believe ATH $100K can happen in the future.

It's just a matter of time in my opinion. Bitcoin will be more useful in the future as a means of payment in various countries. Adoption is expected to continue to increase, but we should not be overly optimistic about anything that is not yet guaranteed.

The expectations of 20k dollars are hard for now.
But it's always possible right? It's hard to guess where the market is going at the moment as rapid moves can occur even when prices are rising.

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January 26, 2022, 09:10:04 PM
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I heard of Gareth Holoway predicted recently about this $20K drop actually. The guy I legendary when it comes to price forecast although he had said it months ago, it may come true one day when the bubble pops. If this bear market will be the same as what we experience in 2018, it may really drop below $20K. Hope it will not happen but there are just crises today that might affect everything like worsening the supply chain disruption and worse and worse coming war.
Just 3x increase? I mean we moved from under 4k during march 2020 to 64k during april 2021, how is that just x3? You may calculate from the previous top to latest top, in that case it is 3x, but that would mean previous ones were not 10x neither, they were smaller. I would guess that right now we are getting higher and higher, the market cap is growing and getting closer to global gold cap as well, imagine how big of a number we are talking about.

If you are considering something like this as normal then you will expect it to keep going 10x higher, but x10 from ATH would mean that we would be either bigger or at least somewhere near gold marketcap. That would be awesome but also a bit unrealistic for the time being.

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January 26, 2022, 09:47:13 PM
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Definitely expect calmer seas in the upcoming months/years.

As anticipated, this bull market run didn't have as much % ROI as previous ones just because of the fact that BTC market cap is already so mature.

Same trend will continue to happen even past this bear market. Obviously expect huge dumps this bear market and for the $20k support to be tested, but apart from that future bull markets should also be relatively tamed compared to the current one.
Personally I see this with good eyes, obviously those that want to become rich in a week are going to complain, but a bitcoin that is more mature will help everyone as people will be more willing to use it as a currency once its value does not move as much as it did in the past, this will also attract the investors that are not looking to multiply their money many times over in a bull cycle but instead are looking for something like 10% per year on average, or some other realistic amount of profits like that, which in turn will strengthen the market over the long term.
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January 27, 2022, 01:49:55 AM
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Bitcoin market value increase can never be like before again particularly when its value was $1 and it increase to its current market price and whoever is expecting that same exponential growth to happen from now on in my opinion is waisting his or her time. Remember that not many were able to hold from when its value was $1 till now, so people should not bother much of how much they might have made.
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If the price is to fall down all the way to $20,000 then let it happen. I would gladly wait for it and be happy that I get to be adding more while the price is down. But I doubt the price will go as low as that. It is a possibility but not likely happening. If it happens though, that would probably be just a quick dip. For sure a lot of Bitcoin investors will be buying a lot when the price touches $20,000. That would cause a quick rebound. That does not happen so often. It's an elusive opportunity.
Wait for it, I bet the price drop will happen because I have been in the situations when the price falls people whistles that this is the end of Bitcoin so it is going to zero means every investors sell immediately and atleast recover something but the same set of people whistles its going to 100K or million when its in bearish so I understand how people react do I am just going to be on their opposite which is the rich people's mindset. Yes, I understand the risk but I calculate the risk factors and go with my appetite only that is why I diversified my portfolio into gold and real estate as well which allows me to go hard st cryptocurrency investment.

The price right now is $37,000. That's too high for people to start thinking Bitcoin is going to zero. I don't think this is the same old dip in the past. When the price fell down from $20,000 to $3,000 in the past, people could think that was the end of Bitcoin, but when the price fell down from $69,000 to $37,000, I don't think it will have the same effect to them.

Do you have a certain timeframe within which the price of Bitcoin will finally hit $20,000?
This would be a helpful tool for dealing with it because there have been a lot of questions about it. Some people's mentality may never change, but we are passing a different phase. Can you anticipate what will happen next? We are now mature, the market is much more mature than before. Hopefully we won't touch that shit ever again.

Now that big whales are buying the dip, let's see if Bitcoin market can come back stronger as we hope it will.

$20,000 is not shit. That is even a much better price than years ago. That's still a good price for Bitcoin, even better to those who grumbled months ago that they missed the train. If they are really serious to get into Bitcoin, $20,000 is a perfect opportunity. That's going to be a blessing to them.

Big whales are buying the dip. But I hope that big whales are not the only ones who are buying the dip now. If that's the case, that's definitely a way for Bitcoin to change hands from small retail owners to rich institutions.
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We already touched 65K right so that is somewhere in the region of the calculation so I consider it as the ATH and I expect the further price hike in the next cycle depends on lot of factors. Yesterday we saw another nose dive followed by 7% spike now again its in mid 36k but still I don't think its recovery I am waiting for the price to fall below, anything below 20K will be the good time for me to invest all the profits I made from the previous cycle.

Below 20K? It will need a major FUD for that to happened since the only for the price to go that low is when institutional investors already sell all there holdings. There is no way that retail investors will dump hard the price in the face the institutional investors. Below 20K price is a good price to enter but the main question is when will it happened.
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