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January 23, 2022, 03:04:58 PM Last edit: January 23, 2022, 03:18:58 PM by YOSHIE Merited by Fullcoinese (1) |
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Have you seen the reports for them, linked to each other. Read below, regarding their case.Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg55605221#msg55605221![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fzizihub.com%2F99e560.jpg&t=665&c=cT5IhSCNeDgyhw) In this case, I conclude yes, they are the same person. Again the problem here, having multiple accounts is legal, having multiple accounts, to cheat, violate forum rules etc, that's what is not allowed.In this case, if they are wrong from the start they will be punished according to their mistake. Question:Did they do anything wrong, if yes, show me the evidence here accurately, I will mark them. Note:Just for the three of them: @yohananaomi, @elisabetheva, @lepbagong, based on preliminary and current evidence if any. Not with @sakti0676, proof for me, it's not enough with the transaction alone, although currently @sakti0676, already blocked.
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I wanted to tell that we can't say they may not connected as transactions may happen with friends and local people. But the proof of their authentication it is clear that they are connected. And if they break any rules (joining on same campaign/ merit transaction/trust exchange or something like that) then they should be tagged.
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Question: Did they do anything wrong, if yes, show me the evidence here accurately, I will mark them. ~
I found that yohananaomi and elisabetheva participated in [YOUengine] campaign, and in doing so violated the rules of the campaign. But that was more than a year ago so I do not know if it still counts. Proof of authentication: yohananaomi [ archive], elisabetheva [ archive] He even posted one PoA application form with the wrong user account: #PROOF OF REGISTRATION Bitcointalk Username: yohananaomi Telegram Username: @yohananaomi Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Signature archived - This post came before yohananaomi's therefore the possibility of accidental copying is ruled out. Using multiple accounts is explicitly prohibited in bounty rules: Terms and Rules ~ 6. Using multiple accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program immediately and all of your accounts will be banned permanently.
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Note:Just for the three of them: @yohananaomi, @elisabetheva, @lepbagong, based on preliminary and current evidence if any. Not with @sakti0676, proof for me, it's not enough with the transaction alone, although currently @sakti0676, already blocked. In my opinion, the additional evidence presented by Stalker22 suggests that Yohananaomi and Elisabetheva abused the Campaign Rules (Youcash). But what if sakti0676 is actually proven to be connected from one of the accounts below: 1. yohananaomi 2. elisabetheva 3. lepbagong Can these 3 accounts be categorized as ban envasion?
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January 26, 2022, 11:17:57 AM Last edit: January 26, 2022, 11:34:27 AM by YOSHIE Merited by lovesmayfamilis (1) |
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In my opinion, the additional evidence presented by Stalker22 suggests that Yohananaomi and Elisabetheva abused the Campaign Rules (Youcash).
That's not what I mean, if they break a new campaign, it's no good marking them on a one year old campaign. Youcash campaign held 13/July/2020, their discovery by: @lovesmayfamilis, on 16/Nov/2020, @lovesmayfamilis won't forget that, except: they are no longer involved in the same campaign. Most cases i published in Reputation about Alt account cheating in campaign, they are involved with Alt in campaign is running 1-2 weeks, I didn't flag them cheating 1-2 years ago, campaign finished.If the case is like this, marking them Alt cheating in the campaign has been completed 1-2 years, honestly such a phenomenon is not 1 or 3 Alt I get, hundreds,but they are aware of being flagged, so they are more careful and not greedy. Notes:If, in the future you find them cheating in a campaign that runs 1-2 weeks, please update it here, maybe I will, flag it. About the post by: @Stalker22, I've seen the first time you created a topic, however, nothing new I found, so I ignored them.
Can these 3 accounts be categorized as ban envasion?
Mod/Admin, may not approve it. As stated by: @Xal0lex, maybe if you add other stronger evidence, it could be.
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That's not what I mean, if they break a new campaign, it's no good marking them on a one year old campaign.
A recent incident in the Russian local section tells a completely different story. A member of DT1 and his alternate accounts got downvoted for cheating 5 years ago if I'm not mistaken. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg58923648#msg58923648Moreover, these accounts were very active and only benefited the forum with their posts. But despite this, everyone was repainted. Therefore, if @Stalker22 found a violation, it would be fair to flag these three as well.
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Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue/Active)1. yohananaomi2. elisabetheva3. lepbagong4. sakti0676Ethereum address : 0xFf0d1746B9036B925A4D40Cc3104a5Ce04413a6d : elisabetheva Ethereum address : 0x0794c6f120331563516Ff2C0c425eeC81Ad45038 : lepbagong Ethereum address : 0xc03913C335e1D360566442869f4Ff58179274C45 : lepbagong Ethereum address : 0x7bc1b970A9225E325511BdAE57722Fa6DA9Bd8fc : yohananaomi Ethereum address : 0xE86f503e8e9cdc3d4A07eF4f738a0d77F7d61521 : yohananaomi Ethereum address : 0x6c99fA3410e8aDe5d1214F4E02B73BA503b78F6A : sakti0676
I think this is a ban evansion? 1. yohananaomi Still active2. elisabetheva BANNED3. lepbagong Still active4. sakti0676 BANNED
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I don't know why the newbies are so much interested on chasing after bounty for hunt because everyone of them needs money and think of arriving at their desired pace through the hunting after bounties, base on my experience, i believe having alts in not what the forum goes against but if the forum banned you and you creates another account then it's a call for ban evasion and am afraid if that's not what will end the situation we are discussing about since those accounts were connected all together.
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June 30, 2023, 04:03:05 AM |
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I don't know why the newbies are so much interested on chasing after bounty for hunt because everyone of them needs money and think of arriving at their desired pace through the hunting after bounties, base on my experience, i believe having alts in not what the forum goes against but if the forum banned you and you creates another account then it's a call for ban evasion and am afraid if that's not what will end the situation we are discussing about since those accounts were connected all together.
I accidentally found it. I think ban evansion are forum rules. For other cases like connected accounts I don't really care because the forums allow that
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I am still surprised why these accounts aren't yet tag, does it mean they are above the law to be tag? I have seen several topics within my stayed here were some accounts are connected they got tag and banned, does it mean people are afraid of tagging those account for simply abusing a bounty campaign? I think your post here full summarized everything which the above mentioned account is not above the law of being tag.
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They must be very clearly connected to each other as authentication is posted from each account using the same wallet. I think a person uses each of these accounts and tries to quickly join each account in a bounty campaign so he forgets to use one wallet for a particular account due to which he uses one wallet for different accounts. In case of wallet transactions it is not completely proof that one account is alt of another because for any reason one friend can transfer crypto from another friend. However, since a wallet is seen being used by multiple accounts through authentication post, it is clear that each of these accounts is connected.
It is not a crime to use multiple accounts on this forum. However, if someone joins the same bounty campaign or signature campaign with multiple accounts, then he is cheating and due to this the accounts may get red tag by DT
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They must be very clearly connected to each other as authentication is posted from each account using the same wallet. I think a person uses each of these accounts and tries to quickly join each account in a bounty campaign so he forgets to use one wallet for a particular account due to which he uses one wallet for different accounts. In case of wallet transactions it is not completely proof that one account is alt of another because for any reason one friend can transfer crypto from another friend. However, since a wallet is seen being used by multiple accounts through authentication post, it is clear that each of these accounts is connected.
It is not a crime to use multiple accounts on this forum. However, if someone joins the same bounty campaign or signature campaign with multiple accounts, then he is cheating and due to this the accounts may get red tag by DT
But that doesn't matter. Because the one who discovered this case again was me, a junior member. Maybe if someone finds DT, at least this thread will reply a lot.
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But that doesn't matter. Because the one who discovered this case again was me, a junior member.
You mean, the one who discovered the account connection is Fullcoinese (OP)? A year and a half ago... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) However, it's worth noting that you were the one who brought up the fact that linked accounts could be considered ban evading as well. Maybe if someone finds DT, at least this thread will reply a lot.
What would you like to discuss more about this? The obvious connection has already been established. You can tag the accounts if you want, report them to the moderators for ban evading and move on.
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July 06, 2023, 09:21:27 AM |
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What would you like to discuss more about this? The obvious connection has already been established. You can tag the accounts if you want, report them to the moderators for ban evading and move on.
Maybe he should be banned for violating ban evasion. I don't know how to get him banned, I think it's DT's job to get them banned or flag them. I don't have tag power
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Maybe he should be banned for violating ban evasion. I don't know how to get him banned, I think it's DT's job to get them banned or flag them. I don't have tag power
It's no one's job but everyone's privilege to tag and raise flags as part of the forum's trust feedback system. You do have the tag power and by using it, you contribute to the community and become eligible for membership in DT. If you don't make use of this power, it's unlikely that others will consider including you in their trust lists. When it comes to banning, only the mods and admins have the power to do that. As far as I know, they don't really care whether the reports are from DT members or just regular forum users.
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Maybe he should be banned for violating ban evasion. I don't know how to get him banned, I think it's DT's job to get them banned or flag them. I don't have tag power
It's no one's job but everyone's privilege to tag and raise flags as part of the forum's trust feedback system. You do have the tag power and by using it, you contribute to the community and become eligible for membership in DT. If you don't make use of this power, it's unlikely that others will consider including you in their trust lists. When it comes to banning, only the mods and admins have the power to do that. As far as I know, they don't really care whether the reports are from DT members or just regular forum users. But as far as I know, only tags from DT will be visible in their trust. Tags from us that are not DT are not visible. It's useless if I tag it but no one can see it How do I report this case of ban evasion? I don't know the staff or admin here. Can I report it with "report to moderation"?
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July 06, 2023, 02:36:30 PM Last edit: July 06, 2023, 02:51:15 PM by lovesmayfamilis |
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But that doesn't matter. Because the one who discovered this case again was me, a junior member. Maybe if someone finds DT, at least this thread will reply a lot.
![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In order to ban someone, you must submit a proper report to the moderators. There is a special topic on the META board. I won't point my finger at it, as I see that you are a fan of these boards, and you can do a great job with the search. Did you create a report there? No. In addition, for an account to be banned, clear evidence is required. I did not delve into this topic, but since you are rooting for it... If the wallet numbers match, these are only alternate accounts. To ban an alternative account, you must provide the wallet number, for example, that first used the currently banned account, and after that, this wallet was used by the account to which you are filing a complaint about a violation of the rules. It's simple. If two or more accounts have the same information (cryptocurrency addresses, email, twitter, telegram, etc.), the banned account is checked first for matching information. If the banned account has the above information mentioned later than the non-banned accounts, then ban evasion is not considered. This is done to avoid mistakes.
Let's look at such an example. One user decided to frame another to get banned. He create a new account, take the BTC address from your post and place it in any topic. After that, he post plagiarism in any topic and his account is banned. Or he can ban account using the "security question" option. Then his write a post in this topic from his main account that you are evading the ban. And the moderator bans you. And you go to Meta and start proving that this is not my account, etc.
That's to avoid such embarrassments and need such tactics.
I hope you get the gist.
If this is not the case, the moderators will not consider the report of either the beginner or the legend.
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July 06, 2023, 03:35:54 PM |
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~I cut it because it's too long~
So it's quite complicated to ban someone. There must be very strong evidence. I haven't analyzed the account above, I'm still not very familiar with ninjastic and locev tools from what I read in the quote you attached, I never thought could do that to accuse another member of ban evasion. But it is logical and quite possible to do. It must at least be a very cunning person who would have the heart to do such a thing
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