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Amir Khan - 7 (30.4%)
Kell Brook - 16 (69.6%)
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January 31, 2022, 07:27:39 AM
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Oh yes, if they provide entertaining fight, expect to have another money fight to whoever wins this fight. Though it's still depends on the outcome of this fight and we will wait to see if both former champs still have their fighting abilities to shine, for now, all will be judged when these two meet inside the ring and start throwing punches.

I do hope to see a toe to toe exchanges of punches to add up with the entertaining part of this sport, for sure fans will love to see that. Roll Eyes Wink
Even if we like to see a toe to toe fighting I don't think Khan is willing to engage Brook has a powerful right straight, Khan's advantage is his speed, the only way can win against Brook is to do hit and run just like he did against powerful puncher but this time he needs good stamina so he can run in the whole fight once he goes toe to toe Brook will work on his uppercuts, Brooks has done a lot of damage with his uppercuts on his past fights.

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January 31, 2022, 08:07:14 AM
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Oh yes, if they provide entertaining fight, expect to have another money fight to whoever wins this fight. Though it's still depends on the outcome of this fight and we will wait to see if both former champs still have their fighting abilities to shine, for now, all will be judged when these two meet inside the ring and start throwing punches.

I do hope to see a toe to toe exchanges of punches to add up with the entertaining part of this sport, for sure fans will love to see that. Roll Eyes Wink
Even if we like to see a toe to toe fighting I don't think Khan is willing to engage Brook has a powerful right straight, Khan's advantage is his speed, the only way can win against Brook is to do hit and run just like he did against powerful puncher but this time he needs good stamina so he can run in the whole fight once he goes toe to toe Brook will work on his uppercuts, Brooks has done a lot of damage with his uppercuts on his past fights.

And ever since Amir Khan is already exposed that he has a weak chin, I don't he is that confident anymore to fight toe to toe exchanging blows. It is probably also advised from his team to avoid trading powerful blows with Kell Brook. Kell Brook has strong punches that could knock Khan out unconscious.

Of course I don't believe that Khan will just run and run the entire fight like Mayweather but I also don't think he will brawl as if he's got a chin of steel. He will probably just maintain a safe distance with his jabs.
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January 31, 2022, 12:08:53 PM
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Oh yes, if they provide entertaining fight, expect to have another money fight to whoever wins this fight. Though it's still depends on the outcome of this fight and we will wait to see if both former champs still have their fighting abilities to shine, for now, all will be judged when these two meet inside the ring and start throwing punches.

I do hope to see a toe to toe exchanges of punches to add up with the entertaining part of this sport, for sure fans will love to see that. Roll Eyes Wink
Even if we like to see a toe to toe fighting I don't think Khan is willing to engage Brook has a powerful right straight, Khan's advantage is his speed, the only way can win against Brook is to do hit and run just like he did against powerful puncher but this time he needs good stamina so he can run in the whole fight once he goes toe to toe Brook will work on his uppercuts, Brooks has done a lot of damage with his uppercuts on his past fights.

And ever since Amir Khan is already exposed that he has a weak chin, I don't he is that confident anymore to fight toe to toe exchanging blows. It is probably also advised from his team to avoid trading powerful blows with Kell Brook. Kell Brook has strong punches that could knock Khan out unconscious.

Of course I don't believe that Khan will just run and run the entire fight like Mayweather but I also don't think he will brawl as if he's got a chin of steel. He will probably just maintain a safe distance with his jabs.

He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

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January 31, 2022, 12:36:06 PM
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Oh yes, if they provide entertaining fight, expect to have another money fight to whoever wins this fight. Though it's still depends on the outcome of this fight and we will wait to see if both former champs still have their fighting abilities to shine, for now, all will be judged when these two meet inside the ring and start throwing punches.

I do hope to see a toe to toe exchanges of punches to add up with the entertaining part of this sport, for sure fans will love to see that. Roll Eyes Wink
Even if we like to see a toe to toe fighting I don't think Khan is willing to engage Brook has a powerful right straight, Khan's advantage is his speed, the only way can win against Brook is to do hit and run just like he did against powerful puncher but this time he needs good stamina so he can run in the whole fight once he goes toe to toe Brook will work on his uppercuts, Brooks has done a lot of damage with his uppercuts on his past fights.

And ever since Amir Khan is already exposed that he has a weak chin, I don't he is that confident anymore to fight toe to toe exchanging blows. It is probably also advised from his team to avoid trading powerful blows with Kell Brook. Kell Brook has strong punches that could knock Khan out unconscious.

Of course I don't believe that Khan will just run and run the entire fight like Mayweather but I also don't think he will brawl as if he's got a chin of steel. He will probably just maintain a safe distance with his jabs.

He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

I'm thinking that other way around though. I think with this fight, a lot is at stake and I don't see Khan running away, but instead will go toe to toe and prove that he can still fight and beat his rival in Kell Brook.

So there will be times in the fight that he will brawl and then maybe can get successes. But Kell Brook has a good chin and again, if he touch Khan during that brawl, maybe Khan will go down or at least barely standing, just like in the Maidana fight

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January 31, 2022, 01:54:34 PM
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Good luck mate, either of the fighters are good, the odds says Kell Brook is the favorite, but it doesn't matter, what matters is what we think who would win the fight and if we believe on Amir Khan, we should gladly put our bets on him. Amir Khan and Kell Brook are both a decent fighter, it's just that they failed to hold on the belt to remain a champion, so let's support them as they will certainly entertain us.

Well, I just got the feeling to go with Amir Khan but yeah Kell Brook is an outstanding fighter and pretty much have the most experience, but the number of fights would surely not determine if the fighter would surely win, I could say that each fighter has their quality and both fighters could or may win against each other, but in my opinion, I could see there determination would make a great deal in defeating the other I think that Amir Khan is more determine in winning against Kell Brook, that is how I see it, and certainly, whatever the result this could be an entertaining fight I just wish this would not turn as negative as the grudge they have for each other.

I have almost the same idea as you, I often watch lightweight and world class boxing, the first thing I noticed was the movements and behavior of opponents A and B, during their interviews and meetings.

If i made a bet for them i would have judged their behavior, mostly what i guess worked, the match between Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook, In my opinion this is an unhealthy boxing match, they have a bad background that leads to revenge.

If Amir Khan faces Brook professionally and according to the boxing rules that apply Amir will determine his good career this time, If both of them are in the ring with the same emotions, this match will end in disaster for both of them, greater bloodshed will occur, meaning that boxing is not healthy on the basis of revenge.

I hope Amir can face Brook coldly and professionally without looking at Brook's current words.

I guess both fighters would surely face each other professionally even though they have a grudge for each other I think their professionalism with boxing will surely show when the fight comes, I still think that they still have great respect for each other and well maybe that stunt is just for the hype we may never know the real reason, but some fighters would exaggerate their engagement with one another surely to gain more Pay per view, or people would get interested, well if that grudge would be real it could surely get messy, but I would hope it is just for the hype.
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January 31, 2022, 02:48:40 PM
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He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

Yeah, he needed to work it out after being exposed, but to offer an entertaining fight both fighters needs to excel and try their best to adjust, if they are aiming to take their shots for another possible title fight, these two fighters should give everything to hype up and bring more interest, their absence might affects their skills but they still got enough time to prepare.

If possible, an entertaining and not a boring fight to come between these two former champs.. Wink Tongue

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February 01, 2022, 01:30:00 AM
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Oh yes, if they provide entertaining fight, expect to have another money fight to whoever wins this fight. Though it's still depends on the outcome of this fight and we will wait to see if both former champs still have their fighting abilities to shine, for now, all will be judged when these two meet inside the ring and start throwing punches.

I do hope to see a toe to toe exchanges of punches to add up with the entertaining part of this sport, for sure fans will love to see that. Roll Eyes Wink
Even if we like to see a toe to toe fighting I don't think Khan is willing to engage Brook has a powerful right straight, Khan's advantage is his speed, the only way can win against Brook is to do hit and run just like he did against powerful puncher but this time he needs good stamina so he can run in the whole fight once he goes toe to toe Brook will work on his uppercuts, Brooks has done a lot of damage with his uppercuts on his past fights.

And ever since Amir Khan is already exposed that he has a weak chin, I don't he is that confident anymore to fight toe to toe exchanging blows. It is probably also advised from his team to avoid trading powerful blows with Kell Brook. Kell Brook has strong punches that could knock Khan out unconscious.

Of course I don't believe that Khan will just run and run the entire fight like Mayweather but I also don't think he will brawl as if he's got a chin of steel. He will probably just maintain a safe distance with his jabs.

He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

By this time, the camp of Amir Khan must have already known very well their fighter. They must have already known the strengths and weaknesses of their fighter who has been climbing the boxing ring for years. So they should know how their fighter should approach an opponent like Kell Brook.

In terms of improvement and becoming quicker, Khan has already reached a stage where instead of improving he is already performing according to his age.
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He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

Yeah, he needed to work it out after being exposed, but to offer an entertaining fight both fighters needs to excel and try their best to adjust, if they are aiming to take their shots for another possible title fight, these two fighters should give everything to hype up and bring more interest, their absence might affects their skills but they still got enough time to prepare.

If possible, an entertaining and not a boring fight to come between these two former champs.. Wink Tongue

For sure this is going to be entertaining, and there could be a lot of trash talk and fanfare in the media, specially during their face off because this two has something to settle as far as fan based is concern in the UK.

This is fall short of an exhibition match, but at least they are really going to fight and punch each other out. But still Kell Brook is more solid as this point that Amir Khan.

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February 02, 2022, 06:47:54 PM
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Bettors are reluctant to bet on Khan because the way he losses speak on how weak a boxer he really has a very weak chin, his Canelo knockout is still very vivid in my mind whenever I see Khan, and there's a possibility that it can happen again, Brook is also a hard puncher with a good knock out ratio and the chance of Khan losing the way he losses to Canelo is quite high if you're betting on Khan you'll get nervous everytime he gets hit in the chin  Cheesy
Unfortunately this is the way things are, in the sport of boxing almost all abilities that you need to become a good boxer can be improved with training, except for one, and that is your chin, after all boxers can even train themselves to be able to endure some really heavy punishment to their bodies but there is no way to train how you can take a hit to the chin, so you either have a strong chin or you do not, and unfortunately for Khan he does not, which is something that has limited the prospects of his career.
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February 02, 2022, 07:07:56 PM
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Bettors are reluctant to bet on Khan because the way he losses speak on how weak a boxer he really has a very weak chin, his Canelo knockout is still very vivid in my mind whenever I see Khan, and there's a possibility that it can happen again, Brook is also a hard puncher with a good knock out ratio and the chance of Khan losing the way he losses to Canelo is quite high if you're betting on Khan you'll get nervous everytime he gets hit in the chin  Cheesy
Unfortunately this is the way things are, in the sport of boxing almost all abilities that you need to become a good boxer can be improved with training, except for one, and that is your chin, after all boxers can even train themselves to be able to endure some really heavy punishment to their bodies but there is no way to train how you can take a hit to the chin, so you either have a strong chin or you do not, and unfortunately for Khan he does not, which is something that has limited the prospects of his career.

After he's been expose, it's really a tough one for him, more on focusing with how he can avoid being hit in his chin, that kind of adjustment is really in need of hard workout, there's no way for him to improve that critical area only his reflex who can be the help for him now, it's a tough challenge since it's been long since he fought and he's going to face another former champ who have that knocking power to beat him in anyhow.

The preparation would be both serious for these two returning former champs.

Also, for the fans, it would be an interesting pick to bet Tongue Roll Eyes

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February 02, 2022, 09:30:15 PM
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Bettors are reluctant to bet on Khan because the way he losses speak on how weak a boxer he really has a very weak chin, his Canelo knockout is still very vivid in my mind whenever I see Khan, and there's a possibility that it can happen again, Brook is also a hard puncher with a good knock out ratio and the chance of Khan losing the way he losses to Canelo is quite high if you're betting on Khan you'll get nervous everytime he gets hit in the chin  Cheesy
Unfortunately this is the way things are, in the sport of boxing almost all abilities that you need to become a good boxer can be improved with training, except for one, and that is your chin, after all boxers can even train themselves to be able to endure some really heavy punishment to their bodies but there is no way to train how you can take a hit to the chin, so you either have a strong chin or you do not, and unfortunately for Khan he does not, which is something that has limited the prospects of his career.

After he's been expose, it's really a tough one for him, more on focusing with how he can avoid being hit in his chin, that kind of adjustment is really in need of hard workout, there's no way for him to improve that critical area only his reflex who can be the help for him now, it's a tough challenge since it's been long since he fought and he's going to face another former champ who have that knocking power to beat him in anyhow.

The preparation would be both serious for these two returning former champs.

Also, for the fans, it would be an interesting pick to bet Tongue Roll Eyes

brook is the favourite of bookies here. but don't know if they will resort to trash talk just to get the attention of the boxing fans. and for sure, brook already knows the weak spot of amir khan. is he going to take that opportunity inside the ring? khan should be a fast thinker on how to protect himself. otherwise, we may see a short battle in the arena. both are already 35 yrs old so this may be one of their last fights before they finally retire.

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He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

Yeah, he needed to work it out after being exposed, but to offer an entertaining fight both fighters needs to excel and try their best to adjust, if they are aiming to take their shots for another possible title fight, these two fighters should give everything to hype up and bring more interest, their absence might affects their skills but they still got enough time to prepare.

If possible, an entertaining and not a boring fight to come between these two former champs.. Wink Tongue
Yes, in reality what they are looking for is that there be a show, because if they take great care of themselves, people are going to demand action, it is also boxing, to protect the chin it is very difficult, because it is always exposed so that it is at least touched, if we start to see any part that a boxer takes care of, the other will look for weakness because from there the blows will come, boxing is usually a sport that handles a lot of strategy, even though it seems that not . I think that in this case it should be strengthened much more, because it is inevitable that the blows sweep towards that vulnerability, in boxing things are usually like that. The other option is that he uses a strategy like the one Myewather used with Pacquiao, in which what he did was practically run in every round.

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At least as far as the votes goes, there's 3 here who voted for Amir Khan to win. He will be at a disadvantage but maybe those who think that he will win is basing on the fact that Khan will still have that fast hands that can offset the Brook when is is coming forward. And when that hits, maybe Brook will have to think twice and Khan can win by knockout or by decision.

Unless the 3 has other reasons,  Grin

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February 05, 2022, 03:01:27 AM
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He has to change his style, he cannot go toe to toe already knowing he has a weak chin. I think he has to improve a bit and be quicker so he can score and avoid getting KO by his opponent, I know he has some good talent in boxing, he can use that but like I said, he has to avoid to fight toe to toe, he has to be smart all the time, never use his emotion, instead, always stick to the game plan.

Yeah, he needed to work it out after being exposed, but to offer an entertaining fight both fighters needs to excel and try their best to adjust, if they are aiming to take their shots for another possible title fight, these two fighters should give everything to hype up and bring more interest, their absence might affects their skills but they still got enough time to prepare.

If possible, an entertaining and not a boring fight to come between these two former champs.. Wink Tongue
Yes, in reality what they are looking for is that there be a show, because if they take great care of themselves, people are going to demand action, it is also boxing, to protect the chin it is very difficult, because it is always exposed so that it is at least touched, if we start to see any part that a boxer takes care of, the other will look for weakness because from there the blows will come, boxing is usually a sport that handles a lot of strategy, even though it seems that not . I think that in this case it should be strengthened much more, because it is inevitable that the blows sweep towards that vulnerability, in boxing things are usually like that. The other option is that he uses a strategy like the one Myewather used with Pacquiao, in which what he did was practically run in every round.


He can do that but Brook is also an aggressive fighter once he got cornered it will be hard for him to prevent those solid punches to land in his critical areas, he needs to prepare and look for more options that exposed on his cheeks really affects his career, opponents will focus to how they can penetrate and a possible KO may take place.

It's a good chance to see both fighters to adjust and to seek for another chance to have a good money fight.. Roll Eyes Cool

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February 05, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
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At least as far as the votes goes, there's 3 here who voted for Amir Khan to win. He will be at a disadvantage but maybe those who think that he will win is basing on the fact that Khan will still have that fast hands that can offset the Brook when is is coming forward. And when that hits, maybe Brook will have to think twice and Khan can win by knockout or by decision.

Unless the 3 has other reasons,  Grin

Actually 4 now, Kell Brook is still leading the poll with 6 votes or 60% of the total voters favored him to win. Actually it's not hard to pick from these two, we have our own reason and though Kell Brook is the favorite, but he is not undefeated which means anything could happen as Khan is also capable of winning by KO.
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At least as far as the votes goes, there's 3 here who voted for Amir Khan to win. He will be at a disadvantage but maybe those who think that he will win is basing on the fact that Khan will still have that fast hands that can offset the Brook when is is coming forward. And when that hits, maybe Brook will have to think twice and Khan can win by knockout or by decision.

Unless the 3 has other reasons,  Grin

Actually 4 now, Kell Brook is still leading the poll with 6 votes or 60% of the total voters favored him to win. Actually it's not hard to pick from these two, we have our own reason and though Kell Brook is the favorite, but he is not undefeated which means anything could happen as Khan is also capable of winning by KO.
Such an interesting fight, Brook is the favorite but Khan I think is way more powerful and have a higher chance for a KO win, almost 2 weeks left and they’ll face each other have some bet now and win some money. They both have good records, and a strength I guess this will be a hard match for these two.
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February 06, 2022, 09:45:57 AM
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At least as far as the votes goes, there's 3 here who voted for Amir Khan to win. He will be at a disadvantage but maybe those who think that he will win is basing on the fact that Khan will still have that fast hands that can offset the Brook when is is coming forward. And when that hits, maybe Brook will have to think twice and Khan can win by knockout or by decision.

Unless the 3 has other reasons,  Grin

Actually 4 now, Kell Brook is still leading the poll with 6 votes or 60% of the total voters favored him to win. Actually it's not hard to pick from these two, we have our own reason and though Kell Brook is the favorite, but he is not undefeated which means anything could happen as Khan is also capable of winning by KO.
Such an interesting fight, Brook is the favorite but Khan I think is way more powerful and have a higher chance for a KO win, almost 2 weeks left and they’ll face each other have some bet now and win some money. They both have good records, and a strength I guess this will be a hard match for these two.

Kell Brook has a higher KO ratio, it's on record, check OP.

Brook has 69% Ko ratio, while Khan has only 61% KO ratio.
Both are good boxers anyway, so we cannot guarantee that the one with a higher KO ratio will automatically win, it's how they'll use their strategy to win.

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February 06, 2022, 06:21:11 PM
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At least as far as the votes goes, there's 3 here who voted for Amir Khan to win. He will be at a disadvantage but maybe those who think that he will win is basing on the fact that Khan will still have that fast hands that can offset the Brook when is is coming forward. And when that hits, maybe Brook will have to think twice and Khan can win by knockout or by decision.

Unless the 3 has other reasons,  Grin

Actually 4 now, Kell Brook is still leading the poll with 6 votes or 60% of the total voters favored him to win. Actually it's not hard to pick from these two, we have our own reason and though Kell Brook is the favorite, but he is not undefeated which means anything could happen as Khan is also capable of winning by KO.
Such an interesting fight, Brook is the favorite but Khan I think is way more powerful and have a higher chance for a KO win, almost 2 weeks left and they’ll face each other have some bet now and win some money. They both have good records, and a strength I guess this will be a hard match for these two.

Kell Brook has a higher KO ratio, it's on record, check OP.

Brook has 69% Ko ratio, while Khan has only 61% KO ratio.
Both are good boxers anyway, so we cannot guarantee that the one with a higher KO ratio will automatically win, it's how they'll use their strategy to win.
While a high KO ratio can be indicative of a huge punching power, as it is the case of Wilder for example, at the same time things could be explained away if one of the fighters faced easier rivals early on their career and they accumulated a lot of knockouts against weak opponents, all in all I think that Khan has a chance but it is not going to be easy at all to beat Brook, since he will have to land punches while at the same time he will need to take care of avoiding any dangerous punch to the face.
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February 06, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
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Oh yes, if they provide entertaining fight, expect to have another money fight to whoever wins this fight. Though it's still depends on the outcome of this fight and we will wait to see if both former champs still have their fighting abilities to shine, for now, all will be judged when these two meet inside the ring and start throwing punches.

I do hope to see a toe to toe exchanges of punches to add up with the entertaining part of this sport, for sure fans will love to see that. Roll Eyes Wink
Even if we like to see a toe to toe fighting I don't think Khan is willing to engage Brook has a powerful right straight, Khan's advantage is his speed, the only way can win against Brook is to do hit and run just like he did against powerful puncher but this time he needs good stamina so he can run in the whole fight once he goes toe to toe Brook will work on his uppercuts, Brooks has done a lot of damage with his uppercuts on his past fights.
Looking at this fight I feel that this is a two star fight because indeed both boxers at this time may be at the end of their boxing career and indeed their heyday can be said to be over now.
But on the other hand it will be interesting because indeed I feel Brook is more motivated now and he has boldly said he has no intention of losing this fight and if he loses then he will retire from boxing.
I feel that these two boxers have known each other from their weaknesses and strengths and I quite agree with what you said that indeed brook's punches will be much stronger and indeed it will be difficult because his weakness is in the chin area and this will definitely be targeted by brook.
I personally still can't predict who will win here because indeed Khan's speed is enough to be used as a weapon by him because his speed is quite good.

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February 07, 2022, 04:38:41 AM
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At least as far as the votes goes, there's 3 here who voted for Amir Khan to win. He will be at a disadvantage but maybe those who think that he will win is basing on the fact that Khan will still have that fast hands that can offset the Brook when is is coming forward. And when that hits, maybe Brook will have to think twice and Khan can win by knockout or by decision.

Unless the 3 has other reasons,  Grin

Actually 4 now, Kell Brook is still leading the poll with 6 votes or 60% of the total voters favored him to win. Actually it's not hard to pick from these two, we have our own reason and though Kell Brook is the favorite, but he is not undefeated which means anything could happen as Khan is also capable of winning by KO.
Such an interesting fight, Brook is the favorite but Khan I think is way more powerful and have a higher chance for a KO win, almost 2 weeks left and they’ll face each other have some bet now and win some money. They both have good records, and a strength I guess this will be a hard match for these two.

Prime for prime I would say that Khan has a slim advantage as far as power goes. However, Brook has some as well and is willing to trade. But since this is a retirement fight for both, I don't see Khan power no more. He can get to Brook but Brook has more chin than him. It's the question on what will happen to Khan if Brook will hit him flush in the face, chances are, he might go down.
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