Advice to new crypto miners

[Piskeante]

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

[Ceyflix-Rez]

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

What difficulty you talking about? In 6 months time mining will be less profitable and many miners will shut down their rigs or you don't believe we will be in bear market at the time? Here is the catch you can mine more coins in bear market than bull market, for example if your hashrate is getting you 1000 ravencoin per month now you would make 3000 per month in bear market due to less difficulty, many won't be able to pay for electricity costs anymore

[FP91G]

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

The biggest profit in mining is obtained in a bear market. The difficulty of many coins will drop a lot after the end of Ethereum mining, because the miners will sell video cards. If the light is inexpensive, then it will be possible to accumulate coins until the next good market.

[Metroid]

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

The biggest profit in mining is obtained in a bear market. The difficulty of many coins will drop a lot after the end of Ethereum mining, because the miners will sell video cards. If the light is inexpensive, then it will be possible to accumulate coins until the next good market.

I disagree, buying coins will always be a better option than mining coins, many topics about it already, while extreme good traders earned 50x or more this time around, extreme good miners have not earned even 5x. But I do understand when you say that, for some people mining will always be better than buying the coins directly, each on its own but the fact remains clear to this day, traders always earn exponentially more money, I guess only scammers earn more money than traders. Those shiba inu dev scammers earned quite good amount of money, and as soon as the bear market hits they will kill that coin and then rinse and repeat next bullrun with another scamcoin, shiba inu was just an example, too many scamcoins this bullrun and nothing different than 2017/2018 or even 2013.

[Zotak337]

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

The biggest profit in mining is obtained in a bear market. The difficulty of many coins will drop a lot after the end of Ethereum mining, because the miners will sell video cards. If the light is inexpensive, then it will be possible to accumulate coins until the next good market.

I disagree, buying coins will always be a better option than mining coins, many topics about it already, while extreme good traders earned 50x or more this time around, extreme good miners have not earned even 5x. But I do understand when you say that, for some people mining will always be better than buying the coins directly, each on its own but the fact remains clear to this day, traders always earn exponentially more money, I guess only scammers earn more money than traders. Those shiba inu dev scammers earned quite good amount of money, and as soon as the bear market hits they will kill that coin and then rinse and repeat next bullrun with another scamcoin, shiba inu was just an example, too many scamcoins this bullrun and nothing different than 2017/2018 or even 2013.

Do you have any proof that shows why shiba inu is a scam project? This whole thing is making me look the project like another bitconnect all over again, the insane volume and liquidity also other use cases like shibaverse and shiba swap I don't see any reason to kill this project for anything, the community support is just too strong.

[impynick]

At the true bottom of the bear market, even if you got cheap or free power, most of you will not bother to mine at all.

In 2019 when ETH was $100, the rx580 made about $0.20 a day in profit with 10 cents electrical it made a total of $0.00 in profit.

So even if your power was 5 cents or free, most wouldn’t bother doing this to make a dime a day per GPU. If you really believed in crypto you would just buy it directly instead of mining it.

Estimated rewards in 2019 based on 2mil diff was anywhere from .15-.30 with a small farm of 250mh/s. Purchasing 8x 580/480 at $60-$120 a card. You would have an investment cost of 1K maybe for everything. You would earn 1 eth in about 4-6 days. by years end you would have ended roughly at 50 eth. This is all rough math. Buying about 1k of eth @ 100$ per would fetch you 10 eth.

So what is better? Buying 1k of eth at $100 a coin? Or making roughly .10-.30 eth a day with a small farm?

OP is correct. Mining when diff is down and equipment, difficulty, and interest is low is the best time for miners. This allows for coin accumulation at faster rates. Mining all of 2019 vs buying once, if considering equal capital is applied on both sides, would have been the better choice.

I mined all of 2018, 2019, and 2020. Picked up cards at heavily discounted rates, mined on em for 2-3 years, and sold them for 7-10x of what I purchased them for. Plus, this avoids "on ramps" and "kyc" if you had to use Fiat to purchase the coin.

[Metroid]

Do you have any proof that shows why shiba inu is a scam project? This whole thing is making me look the project like another bitconnect all over again, the insane volume and liquidity also other use cases like shibaverse and shiba swap I don't see any reason to kill this project for anything, the community support is just too strong.

The only proof I have is "I see as I see", yeah bit-connect I said the same thing. What makes me very skeptical about it, is everyday you see scammers marketing it and writing articles and implying "whales bought billions of it" at social media hehe and price so far still going down, that is a red flag no matter how you see it, I know when something is a scam by how is being marketed, call a 6th sense hunch.

Estimated rewards in 2019 based on 2mil diff was anywhere from .15-.30 with a small farm of 250mh/s. Purchasing 8x 580/480 at $60-$120 a card. You would have an investment cost of 1K maybe for everything. You would earn 1 eth in about 4-6 days. by years end you would have ended roughly at 50 eth. This is all rough math. Buying about 1k of eth @ 100$ per would fetch you 10 eth.

So what is better? Buying 1k of eth at $100 a coin? Or making roughly .10-.30 eth a day with a small farm?

OP is correct. Mining when diff is down and equipment, difficulty, and interest is low is the best time for miners. This allows for coin accumulation at faster rates. Mining all of 2019 vs buying once, if considering equal capital is applied on both sides, would have been the better choice.

I mined all of 2018, 2019, and 2020. Picked up cards at heavily discounted rates, mined on em for 2-3 years, and sold them for 7-10x of what I purchased them for. Plus, this avoids "on ramps" and "kyc" if you had to use Fiat to purchase the coin.

As far as I remember, for every eth you mined you spent 65% more than if you decided to have bought directly, it was like this, buy 1 eth for 100 usd or mine 1 eth and pay 165 usd. You can check profitability here https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201657/ethereum-mining-profitability/ and that data is the real deal, you can argue all you want but fact is fact and that data shows the best case scenario and the best case scenario was 5 to 10 cents per 30mhs per day, the worse case scenario was negative at around 1 usd per 30mhs.

[FP91G]

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

The biggest profit in mining is obtained in a bear market. The difficulty of many coins will drop a lot after the end of Ethereum mining, because the miners will sell video cards. If the light is inexpensive, then it will be possible to accumulate coins until the next good market.

I disagree, buying coins will always be a better option than mining coins, many topics about it already, while extreme good traders earned 50x or more this time around, extreme good miners have not earned even 5x. But I do understand when you say that, for some people mining will always be better than buying the coins directly, each on its own but the fact remains clear to this day, traders always earn exponentially more money, I guess only scammers earn more money than traders. Those shiba inu dev scammers earned quite good amount of money, and as soon as the bear market hits they will kill that coin and then rinse and repeat next bullrun with another scamcoin, shiba inu was just an example, too many scamcoins this bullrun and nothing different than 2017/2018 or even 2013.

I think most traders end up going bust, that's what famous traders say. And most miners always make a profit, even if you bought video cards at the wrong time, the payback period will increase to 3 years. Therefore, I prefer mining, there are no big profits now, but there is always a stable profit.

[Metroid]

I think most traders end up going bust, that's what famous traders say. And most miners always make a profit, even if you bought video cards at the wrong time, the payback period will increase to 3 years. Therefore, I prefer mining, there are no big profits now, but there is always a stable profit.

Sheeps always go bust and the majority of traders are indeed sheeps, because they buy on hype and sell on fear, if they did the opposite then they would do better, meaning, buying on fear and selling on hype, scammers do that, so in that sense sheeps never make money, they end up losing all or most of it, so yeah bad traders will always end up losing, with mining you can't in that sense because if is not profitable you just turn off and sell that gpu,  I know where you are going here, your point is, you hedge your money on gpu and if no profit, you then resell that gpu to recoup some of the investment, to this day if you were smart and since bullruns are 4 to 4 years at most, gpu mining in that sense has been profitable, like I said before, mining is a wasteful effort in the sense it doesn't payout that effort as much as should be, mining requires too much effort and the returns are little, trading requires not much effort and end up with big payouts if you are a good trader. My point is, a good trader always earn a lot of money, a bad trader never earns anything, only loses, a good miner earns only a little more money than a bad miner because even if is a bad miner that person will not lose much money. By the way, that is only true if no miners buy overpriced gpus, reason i always say, never buy gpus for more than msrp, that is the first rule of mining, if you decide to buy overpriced gpus and ignore the first rule of mining then you are gambling, just like what traders do, they gamble.

[impynick]

Do you have any proof that shows why shiba inu is a scam project? This whole thing is making me look the project like another bitconnect all over again, the insane volume and liquidity also other use cases like shibaverse and shiba swap I don't see any reason to kill this project for anything, the community support is just too strong.

The only proof I have is "I see as I see", yeah bit-connect I said the same thing. What makes me very skeptical about it, is everyday you see scammers marketing it and writing articles and implying "whales bought billions of it" at social media hehe and price so far still going down, that is a red flag no matter how you see it, I know when something is a scam by how is being marketed, call a 6th sense hunch.

Estimated rewards in 2019 based on 2mil diff was anywhere from .15-.30 with a small farm of 250mh/s. Purchasing 8x 580/480 at $60-$120 a card. You would have an investment cost of 1K maybe for everything. You would earn 1 eth in about 4-6 days. by years end you would have ended roughly at 50 eth. This is all rough math. Buying about 1k of eth @ 100$ per would fetch you 10 eth.

So what is better? Buying 1k of eth at $100 a coin? Or making roughly .10-.30 eth a day with a small farm?

OP is correct. Mining when diff is down and equipment, difficulty, and interest is low is the best time for miners. This allows for coin accumulation at faster rates. Mining all of 2019 vs buying once, if considering equal capital is applied on both sides, would have been the better choice.

I mined all of 2018, 2019, and 2020. Picked up cards at heavily discounted rates, mined on em for 2-3 years, and sold them for 7-10x of what I purchased them for. Plus, this avoids "on ramps" and "kyc" if you had to use Fiat to purchase the coin.

As far as I remember, for every eth you mined you spent 65% more than if you decided to have bought directly, it was like this, buy 1 eth for 100 usd or mine 1 eth and pay 165 usd. You can check profitability here https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201657/ethereum-mining-profitability/ and that data is the real deal, you can argue all you want but fact is fact and that data shows the best case scenario and the best case scenario was 5 to 10 cents per 30mhs per day, the worse case scenario was negative at around 1 usd per 30mhs.

This is false. Especially false if you didn't have electricity costs like I did. That link you provided requires a paid subscription. I was able to spend money on hardware once, and mine eth all year long.

I get you're a bear and thats your shtick on here...

[Metroid]

This is false. Especially false if you didn't have electricity costs like I did. That link you provided requires a paid subscription. I was able to spend money on hardware once, and mine eth all year long.

I get you're a bear and thats your shtick on here...

You are saying fact as pointed here https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201657/ethereum-mining-profitability/ is false to conform to your narrative and that is when I leave the discussion, have a good day.

[impynick]

This is false. Especially false if you didn't have electricity costs like I did. That link you provided requires a paid subscription. I was able to spend money on hardware once, and mine eth all year long.

I get you're a bear and thats your shtick on here...

You are saying fact as pointed here https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201657/ethereum-mining-profitability/ is false to conform to your narrative and that is when I leave the discussion, have a good day.

Unfortunately, you're lumping all situations into one general assumption. Its okay. If you have a 1 time cost of the equipment and no power cost, then you're incorrect. Have a nice day.

Even your link provided states "Whether a miner can make money with this depends on various costs such as electricity consumption during this process, transaction fees or whether the hardware used is efficient or not."