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Football being a game for all ages is the sports side of it which is good for recreational purposes but when you talk about competition and tournament where the team is playing for the price and fans are interested in the wining of the bets, that's the angle am looking at it from taking Fifa, UEFA Champions League, and other local and international football competitions, for example, it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
You should differentiate between competing for prize and gambling for money. If you consider such football competition as gambling because they are competing for trophy and prize (I would say reward), means that all competition where the participants are competing to each other = gambling. Would you say Math Olympic, Talent competition such as X-factor, etc as a gambling too because they perform for the prize?
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January 27, 2022, 07:24:42 PM |
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
Not totally legal because there are still countries where sports gambling is illegal and that includes football. Same goes to gambling. Gambling is compose of different games and sports. There are countries that bans gambling or only bans specific games and there is a reason for that, just do not ask and follow it although banning of gambling usually happens locally or offline. On the other hand there are lesser restrictions when playing gambling online, you can visit different gambling sites to see if they allow your country or if they allow this type of game. There are also bypasses that you can use to be able to access them even if they already restricted you.
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January 27, 2022, 07:34:26 PM |
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I don't see the connection between gambling and football either. You should see that as 2 independent objects. You can bet on football, but without gambling football is just its own element. We have here the terms sports and gambling, 2 completely different elements. Besides, football can also be american football but also football. Little confusing but most people think its soccer.
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January 27, 2022, 07:58:57 PM |
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become. What is gambling? According to Wikipedia: This makes more points clearer or am I missing something?
You're missing everything and it is a garbage comparison. Football itself is a competition between two teams, often participating in a larger league, to determine through physical power and skillful teamwork who is the better side. Football is a sport, built around athleticism and it would still exist even if all gambling was magically removed from the world tomorrow. You're trying to insinuate that football requires sports betting, when it is exactly the other way around - sports betting can only exist because sports exist. Nobody who is sane is going to outlaw physical activities which help to keep people fit and healthy, but gambling arguably does little to benefit society.
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January 27, 2022, 07:59:25 PM |
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gambling in some countries is not allowed because many lose and go bankrupt in betting ,the sport of football is a place to win titles and trophies ! why the government legalizes sports because it is the title that can bring a great name to a country ,so sport is not there for gambling and gambling is also not all inclusive of sports
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January 27, 2022, 08:27:54 PM |
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I think the main factors might be due to its addictive effect and the terms of the major religion in those countries prohibit people to gamble which generally lead the government to apply similar terms to prevent the citizen from gambling activities, such as what happened in my country xD.
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January 27, 2022, 08:33:20 PM |
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it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
So can we say, a group singing contest (choir/orchestra) a gambling too since these people are singing for the price? So do a dance competition? Come on! You're out of context I think and the way you see it is somehow wrong. Take it as a competition on talent and skills and not just it's always plain gambling in sight.
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January 27, 2022, 09:15:37 PM |
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it's all gambling because the teams are playing for the price.
So can we say, a group singing contest (choir/orchestra) a gambling too since these people are singing for the price? So do a dance competition? Come on! You're out of context I think and the way you see it is somehow wrong. Take it as a competition on talent and skills and not just it's always plain gambling insight. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FW6dmZNF%2F1643317744926.gif&t=665&c=5gLIK3me68bPiQ) Well, those tests of talent and skills in the subject of competition, football is also a gamble in its entirety, as the team competes for the ultimate price in the game and also fans can bet on those football matches these bets make the most of the revenue the football bodies make. I clearly understood your point on this but for the sake of comparison that is why I open this thread for discussion.
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January 27, 2022, 09:33:36 PM |
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The thread doesn't make sense. Football and gambling can't be tied together or it can't be considered to be the same. Football is a sports, people can watch it and enjoy supporting their own country team, club team or some other team of their choice. Here there is no money involved, so that it won't lead to any harm.
With gambling on the same football, some will win whereas some will end up losing. As money is involved, this could cause life risks, and financial risks. This at times even make the players corrupt and play for money. Why to ruin a sports and the people's money in the name of gambling. This is the prime reason why countries support games and doesn't support gambling on the same game.
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January 27, 2022, 09:36:27 PM |
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gambling in some countries is not allowed because many lose and go bankrupt in betting ,the sport of football is a place to win titles and trophies ! why the government legalizes sports because it is the title that can bring a great name to a country ,so sport is not there for gambling and gambling is also not all inclusive of sports
^ That could be the point of view in most countries that prohibited gambling, when it comes to financial matters, governments are very allergic and they want to control it to their people. Probably the reason could be bankruptcy in most people if many of them involve gambling and if there is no limit, many people would suffer, many of them will commit a crime just to sustain gambling. Sports could be good for them without gambling but as for us, it is good to watch sports waiting for the result while gambling. So, very lucky for those countries that did not prohibit gambling activity in sports activities.
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January 27, 2022, 09:54:21 PM |
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...But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
What baffles me is how you found irony in there. You must be a hardcore gambler that you view sports competition as an opportunity to bet. It' true that it's the most popular sport and probably the most bet on but Governments are not inclined to legalize something based on those criteria.
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January 27, 2022, 10:36:21 PM |
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become.
You are talking about two completely different topics, the fact that soccer is the most popular sport all over the world has nothing to do with gambling at all as they are two completely different activities, now answering your question about why gambling is illegal in some countries, in many cases this has to do with some kind of religious or moral code that politicians have which forbids gambling, they do so to try to protect those that could become addicted to gambling, not realizing they are not really protecting anyone as those people will get addicted anyway while they block an industry that could create a lot of jobs and bring revenue to the government in the form of taxes.
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January 27, 2022, 11:26:30 PM |
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The game of football is one of the most celebrated and loved sports around the world and most countries have an official football team, which gives the game legal backing because the government and competition organizers make a huge budget for these games. But what baffles me is football is the highest gambling around the world but yet it is seen as legal meanwhile gambling is illegal in some of those countries and I can't stop to wonder what an irony this has become. What is gambling? According to Wikipedia: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8KCnwFN%2FScreenshot-2022-0127-105732.png&t=665&c=lFj9WowP0FiNmg) This makes more points clearer or am I missing something? As far as I know in some countries are 2 types of gambling, that are closely monitored and not closely monitored... Sports betting is one of the oldest gambling in the world and it was done several hundred years ago, long before slots appeared. Besides that, sports have competitions, so gambling in them is not prohibited, except cheating such as match-fixing.
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January 27, 2022, 11:30:14 PM |
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I'm not the only one who thinks that there is something wrong with the post, if all sports like football are gambling then all that we do in life is gambling and can turn into a betting event like a cooking show people will bet if the chef will satisfy the taster decision or a voting where people can bet who will vote for the next president, your point is vague you are just the only one with an imaginative mind and attach sports and gambling in the same category, gambling platform just uses sports on their platform for people to bet.
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January 27, 2022, 11:41:06 PM |
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I'm not the only one who thinks that there is something wrong with the post, if all sports like football are gambling then all that we do in life is gambling and can turn into a betting event like a cooking show people will bet if the chef will satisfy the taster decision or a voting where people can bet who will vote for the next president, your point is vague you are just the only one with an imaginative mind and attach sports and gambling in the same category, gambling platform just uses sports on their platform for people to bet.
From what I understand is he didn't say sport is gambling but sports like football are the most popular gambling markets in the world and in some countries it is legal and some illegal I think that's the main question , some people have said that religious, cultural rules are one of the reasons why gambling is banned there is also a reason to avoid going bankrupt and it all makes sense.
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these are two completely different stuffs. Gambling can lead to addiction that can be seriously dangerous for a player, as we have discussed a lot of time https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381018.0;topicseenFootball has not these bad effects...ok you can broke a leg, but generally has not a bad effect on your pshyco. I am really curious to know in which country football is prohibited .... Well it depends on the country because some countries, prohibit football and it citizens are not allowed to even watch football, despite this football is the most celebrated sports and this have given it priority over other gambling games.
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This makes more points clearer or am I missing something? Yes, you are missing the point that everything is obvious. Football is a sport, why it should be illegal? Gambling covers all sports, casinos, and everything related to money wagering or a bet. It's banned because of its effect and at some point, playing against money is illegal in other religions. I can't understand why there's a comparison about the legality between a sport and gambling.
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Well, those tests of talent and skills in the subject of competition, football is also a gamble in its entirety, as the team competes for the ultimate price in the game and also fans can bet on those football matches these bets make the most of the revenue the football bodies make. I clearly understood your point on this but for the sake of comparison that is why I open this thread for discussion.
that does not make football gambling. the act of playing Football itself is not gambling and just because(and I am not really sure if it is even accurate) it makes most of its revenue from bets does not make it gambling. with your logic, all sports should be considered gambling since people can bet on the matches.
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January 28, 2022, 02:11:10 AM |
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I mean, they're completely two different things? Gambling is well, an entertainment activity, mostly correlated with how closely it brings most people closer to addiction (which honestly, should be blamed on the user and not the activity in this scenario), and with its negative connotation, ofc it's rather reasonable why countries would ban it. Now, as for football, it's a sport that's really enjoyed by a lot of people, a competition between skilled men, who would hate it? It's not irony, it's common sense of the society (sadly) as of now.
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I'm afraid you're making a wrong comparison here. Since apple is legal, oranges should also be made legal? Is that what you're saying?
Football is a sport. It doesn't have anything to do with gambling. If people place bets on football games and events, it doesn't have anything to do with the sport. It has everything to do with gamblers. If casinos and betting sites are sponsors of certain football tournaments and teams, it does not speak whatsoever of the sport itself. It simply speaks of teams' decision and tournament management and organizers.
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