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January 28, 2022, 09:23:20 PM
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Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
Agreed, the OP seems to have it backwards, it gives me the impression he thinks that sports exist just for people to gamble, when it is the other way around, people enjoy sports on their own and there are a few that like to spice things up a little bit by also gambling on their favorite sport.

And since governments make the laws they can decide if they ban gambling completely, if they allow some gambling games while banning another forms of gambling or if they allow almost all forms of gambling, it is up to them and while I would prefer that most governments were progressive on that topic at the end of the day we need to follow whatever regulations we have in our country, fortunately for me I live in a country in which gambling is allowed so I do not have to hide my preferences at all, as it happens to some other members that live in other countries.

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January 28, 2022, 09:54:03 PM
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Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
Agreed, the OP seems to have it backwards, it gives me the impression he thinks that sports exist just for people to gamble, when it is the other way around, people enjoy sports on their own and there are a few that like to spice things up a little bit by also gambling on their favorite sport.

And since governments make the laws they can decide if they ban gambling completely, if they allow some gambling games while banning another forms of gambling or if they allow almost all forms of gambling, it is up to them and while I would prefer that most governments were progressive on that topic at the end of the day we need to follow whatever regulations we have in our country, fortunately for me I live in a country in which gambling is allowed so I do not have to hide my preferences at all, as it happens to some other members that live in other countries.


the OP needs to revisit his post and maybe differentiate gambling vs sports. because he only provided the definition of gambling but he forgot to post the definition of sports. so maybe, he will understand that sports itself is a stand-alone industry
so yes, sports can exist even without gambling. and since every country has their own stance towards gambling activities, they can impose whatever they deem necessary - according to their religion, culture etc.
it is not the case that if the sports is legal then gambling on the sports will be legal as well.

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January 28, 2022, 10:00:14 PM
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Every government that regulates gambling can allow betting on some events, they don't want casinos in their country but they can allow football or boxing or even horse racing betting, it's up to the government what kind of gambling they would like to regulate but about your thread football is a sport it was not created for people to gamble, gambling operators just use football for people to gamble.
Agreed, the OP seems to have it backwards, it gives me the impression he thinks that sports exist just for people to gamble, when it is the other way around, people enjoy sports on their own and there are a few that like to spice things up a little bit by also gambling on their favorite sport.

And since governments make the laws they can decide if they ban gambling completely, if they allow some gambling games while banning another forms of gambling or if they allow almost all forms of gambling, it is up to them and while I would prefer that most governments were progressive on that topic at the end of the day we need to follow whatever regulations we have in our country, fortunately for me I live in a country in which gambling is allowed so I do not have to hide my preferences at all, as it happens to some other members that live in other countries.


the OP needs to revisit his post and maybe differentiate gambling vs sports. because he only provided the definition of gambling but he forgot to post the definition of sports. so maybe, he will understand that sports itself is a stand-alone industry
so yes, sports can exist even without gambling. and since every country has their own stance towards gambling activities, they can impose whatever they deem necessary - according to their religion, culture etc.
it is not the case that if the sports is legal then gambling on the sports will be legal as well.
Agreed, gambling and sports are different industries. Here sports industry have the ability to move on its own. The gambling industry is much dependent over the sports industry, but for the same OP have misunderstood that gambling need to be legal when the sports is legal.

As said governments have different policies which portrays why gambling is illegal in the country. Also there were more sports/games are illegal in different countries. For example cockfights, there are countries and people yet conduct those games and gamble over it.
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January 28, 2022, 10:10:21 PM
Last edit: January 28, 2022, 11:04:44 PM by Naficopa
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When it comes to sport betting, it has to do with knowledge and experience, and just playing in a casino is pure luck.
Addiction to gambling leads to the fact that most of the time people lose all their savings and get into debts, which creates more and more problems and often ends in tragic way. This is a very big difference, and I think that's why governments want to protect society by making gambling illegal. Betting on football is more up to you, not just the casino.

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January 28, 2022, 10:31:25 PM
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This is the more reason we try to differentiate between gambling and sports games and try to find a partway between the two, it's either gambling is detached from sport or there should be no featuring of physical sports games on bookmakers.
There is a clear difference between the two. It's just you trying hard to associate sports competition with gambling.
Sports competition can exist without people gambling on it.
Bookies can add sports betting if there are no laws against it.

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I take my country for instance gambling is prohibited by law but again football betting is allowed and is even advertised on national television stations.
How about you take a deeper look at your country's gambling laws? There are different rules per jurisdiction. Some allow land based casinos to operate since it's regulated but prohibits online gambling. Some allow all except sports betting.
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January 28, 2022, 10:39:38 PM
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Well in my own opinion --let us respect other country's points of view when it comes to gambling, if they will prohibit this then that is with them.
If they will allow sports and gambling were not, because sports are totally different from gambling, gamblers, and bettors who watched the sports can do gambling without even knowing the sports athletes. So everything that has an odds to bet, gambling is allowed.
There are countries where gambling is not allowed and for sure they are taking care of their people not to turn into gambling addicts and full of debts.









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January 28, 2022, 10:50:02 PM
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I take my country for instance gambling is prohibited by law but again football betting is allowed and is even advertised on national television stations.
How about you take a deeper look at your country's gambling laws? There are different rules per jurisdiction. Some allow land based casinos to operate since it's regulated but prohibits online gambling. Some allow all except sports betting.

Yes, exactly. I don't believe there is a country that prohibits gambling but permits football betting specifically. The OP must have got something wrong, so it would be best for him to do more thorough research on what is allowed and what is not in his country.

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January 28, 2022, 10:53:52 PM
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The reason why football is not prohibited is because it's not gambling but a sports. Each country have their own rules and reason why gambling is allowed or not allowed. I'm sure you know that the gambling and sports are different from each other though you may think that footbal is gambling since you can bet when the football have odds that you can base the bet like what team will win and more.

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January 29, 2022, 02:50:17 AM
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Agreed, gambling and sports are different industries. Here sports industry have the ability to move on its own. The gambling industry is much dependent over the sports industry, but for the same OP have misunderstood that gambling need to be legal when the sports is legal.

As said governments have different policies which portrays why gambling is illegal in the country. Also there were more sports/games are illegal in different countries. For example cockfights, there are countries and people yet conduct those games and gamble over it.
Sports gambling is dependent on sports, but not gambling necessarily. I mean we have casinos out there that have their own gambling games such as slots, dice, blackjack, etc., so it isn't necessarily bound to sports. So even if just, for example, a country banned sports for some dumb reason, gambling could still thrive and vice versa. The two don't need to be allowed for both of them to thrive, they're two separate industries after all. If we were to actually specify it to sports gambling though, then yea, OP has it the other way around, sports gambling was just a byproduct of sports themselves imo, without sports, there wouldn't be sports betting.

 
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January 29, 2022, 03:47:41 AM
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You are comparing sports with gambling? How are they both even related? Gambling depends on pure luck. You have no control over the outcome. On other hand, football is not a game of chance, and depends on pure skill. More skilled teams have higher chance of winning the prize money. If you are talking about sports betting, then the title of your thread is misleading. If all sorts of gambling is banned in a country, then betting on sports games (soccer, football, NBA and all other sports) is also illegal. Those who do it, do it illegally.

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January 29, 2022, 04:26:42 AM
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When you play in a casino, for example slot games, nothing is up to you except how much money you wager. It is the computer that decides whether you win or not. When it comes to betting on football, you are betting because of your knowledge of the teams. Of course there is always a random element and luck, but what you bet is entirely up to you.
But have you read the OP? it is the question of legality and not about which to play so your post is not relevant to the OP's question .
You are comparing sports with gambling? How are they both even related? Gambling depends on pure luck. You have no control over the outcome. On other hand, football is not a game of chance, and depends on pure skill. More skilled teams have higher chance of winning the prize money. If you are talking about sports betting, then the title of your thread is misleading. If all sorts of gambling is banned in a country, then betting on sports games (soccer, football, NBA and all other sports) is also illegal. Those who do it, do it illegally.
actually it is the legality mate that he is talking here,  so Yeah sports betting is much appreciated in many countries while banning in others .

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In the same way, because it was a sporting event, the NBA does not consider it illegal; this was done to encourage young people to participate in sports rather than engage in illegal activities such as drug use. This is also a form of physical exercise that is beneficial to our health. When it comes to gambling, it is prohibited in other countries because it involves money and has the potential to lead to addiction in the player. There are also countries that are extremely religious, which is why they are prohibited.
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...football is the highest gambling around the world
This is a very ambiguous statement OP, firstly who did the statistics? and how has football which is a sport/competition become the highest gambling. Gambling is a broad term OP, there are many ways people gamble and many sports/competitions people gamble on. Have you considered countries OP where football is not popular and they have other sports? Don't people still gamble?
Sports can actually go on without gambling, and likewise, gambling will go on without sports. So football which is a sport is not the problem, but the gambling attribute itself which may result to problems hence why some governments still prohibit gambling.

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January 29, 2022, 09:55:10 AM
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...football is the highest gambling around the world
This is a very ambiguous statement OP, firstly who did the statistics? and how has football which is a sport/competition become the highest gambling. Gambling is a broad term OP, there are many ways people gamble and many sports/competitions people gamble on. Have you considered countries OP where football is not popular and they have other sports? Don't people still gamble?
Sports can actually go on without gambling, and likewise, gambling will go on without sports. So football which is a sport is not the problem, but the gambling attribute itself which may result to problems hence why some governments still prohibit gambling.

OP better lock this thread because he is out of reason for trying to connect gambling to football which is pure sports, in a country where betting is illegal you can play football as long as there is no betting involved but when you put betting on it you can be charged, likewise, on guessing game you can guess who will win a particular fight but put money or create a platform for this and you will go to prison if football is the highest gambling that's because it is played in a country where gambling is legal.

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When you play in a casino, for example slot games, nothing is up to you except how much money you wager. It is the computer that decides whether you win or not. When it comes to betting on football, you are betting because of your knowledge of the teams. Of course there is always a random element and luck, but what you bet is entirely up to you.
But have you read the OP? it is the question of legality and not about which to play so your post is not relevant to the OP's question .

Yes, I read the question that this thread concerns. In my explanation, I mentioned the difference between playing in a casino and betting on sports events. In my opinion, it is because of the difference that I described that the governments of some countries make football betting legal and gambling in the casino illegal.

(I added this hint in the quoted post especially for you, so that you have no doubts what I wrote about)

Could you name at least one country where such a law exists, namely sports betting (football betting) is legal but casino gambling is illegal? Personally, I have never heard of such a case.

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January 29, 2022, 10:29:37 AM
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Sports can actually go on without gambling, and likewise, gambling will go on without sports. So football which is a sport is not the problem, but the gambling attribute itself which may result to problems hence why some governments still prohibit gambling.
I agree with that bold. Both sports and gambling can work by themselves, without any relation as in sports, we know many sports that people like to watch. While in gambling, people also have so many types of gambling games they can play. When the government prohibits gambling, they will not prohibit sports because people like to watch and play each other.

People bet on sports because they want to make money and to do this, they have many sports betting that uses fiat or crypto to accommodate people to gamble.

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Football being legal has nothing to do with betting on football being illegal. Professional athletes for example aren't allowed to bet on the leagues or maybe even on the sports they play. Because the possibility for misuse and illegal practices is too big.

Playing football every day is not an addiction that can hurt you or those close to you. Gambling is.
Being good at football earns you money. Being bad at gambling causes financial turmoil to you and your family. 

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Doesn't make any sense at all, I mean the two are not even connected. Football is a sport, gambling is not, they only make sports as a way to earn more money by betting in sports, while gambling is gambling, it is a general term that consist a lot of games, not sports, if you know what I mean.

Gambling is any form of actions that needs a bet in order to double up your money or win money in return. Each government has their own reason why they are not making everything legal about gambling.

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Doesn't make any sense at all, I mean the two are not even connected. Football is a sport, gambling is not, they only make sports as a way to earn more money by betting in sports, while gambling is gambling, it is a general term that consist a lot of games, not sports, if you know what I mean.

Gambling is any form of actions that needs a bet in order to double up your money or win money in return. Each government has their own reason why they are not making everything legal about gambling.

Exactly, football and gambling are totally different from each other it's just the way people are making fun of the game is what gives the illusion that the two are connected. Let's say if football game is just a game and no betting mechanics involve this will not be called as gambling after all, football is a sport  While, a gambling is a gambling it is in a sense where when we heard gambling it's all about taking risks and hoping for a luck to win the game.
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January 29, 2022, 01:37:12 PM
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OP better lock this thread because he is out of reason
I think you guys misunderstood the purpose of this thread which is for discussion purposes, am not trying to make a judgement on the subject matter of trying to prove a point rather am pointing out the abnormality in the system.
Football is a widely celebrated sports game that requires the physical involvement of the players but the other aspect is winning 🏅 and this is subject to so many rules just like gambling games within the same environment I will always say there is only a tin line between football & gambling.

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