A vaccine buffet.

[tvbcof]

Continuing on with the 'Ivermectin experiments'...

It continues to be the case that nearly everyone I know have a situation where their whole families have periodic shitty feeling episodes which often include a short-duration fever.  There are actually helicopters flying over my city at a MUCH higher rate than was the norm (poor country) and people are getting suspicious, but in fact the same things health things are being reported (to me) in more rural areas where a helicopter is never observed.

Several days ago I woke with a sore nose/throat yet again, and yet again it progressed into body aches over the day (although more joint aches than a genuine sickness several weeks ago.)  As an experiment I went ahead and downed a few Ivermectin.  By the normal 6 hours I was feeling at least not worse.  The next 24 hours felt kinda crappy (and kinda 'zoned out' or 'relaxed' which is common for me with this drug) but less crappy than I would have predicted given the instigation of this 'flu'.  The next day (today) I was feeling more crappy so I downed one more.  Now, about 6 hours later, I feel pretty 'great', but also a little 'relaxed' as mentioned above.

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Relatedly and more on-topic, my country (of current domicile) has every 'covid-19 vaccine' known to man by this point so it seems.  A lot of it 'donated' by wealthy countries.  When it expires, someone in 'authority' signs a paper saying that the expiry date is 'extended' and still good-to-go.

There seems to be kind of a kind of a competition between the 'big fish' local officials who've authorized 'big fish' jabs (Pfizer,  Moderna, Sinovac, etc) and smaller local officials who seem to have something going with the various smaller pharma companies to help in testing out their wares.  in my area here was some Taiwanese and another Chinese testing going on replete with reports of police telling unsophisticated rural farmers that they would go to jail if they refused the jabs.  The big-fish seem to have caught wind of it and have now made laws against more local operations.

In fairness, I should say that these are things I've read somewhat in the local papers and somewhat from what I've heard word-of-mouth on the street, and neither source is particularly reliable, but it's exactly the kind of cluster-fuck which I would expect to see.  In point of fact, I chose a 'developing world' domicile (well before the scamdemic started), precisely BECAUSE I predicted a disorganized cluster-fuck in SHTF scenario.  A more 'orderly' society could efficiently march people right into the gas chamber.  A less organized country should have a lot more out-of-the-way holes to hide in.  Seems to be playing out just as I projected.

Fortunately for me is has been a LONG time since I expected any government to help with my protection in almost any way and my default position was to just take that role on for myself.  My taxes are nothing more than the extortion fees I pay for corp/gov racketeering, and I certainly don't expect effective oversight of financial or medical systems as part of the deal.  Thus it's not a big deal to move to a less 'developed' society.  Soon we'll see the effects of 'natural selection' pressures differentiating people who, by nature, loved big brother and those who don't.  I'm cautiously optimistic that the dynamics will favor me.

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[philipma1957]

Pretty sure I had the Delta vaccine..

Seems to be working well..

I had covid strain one coming out of Italy to New York
I had pfizer vacs 1,2
I had very mild covid delta
I took pfizer booster.

so three shots
and two covids
so far I am still here.

Damage done =

 sense of smell is poor
and a very bent dick known as peyronie’s disease
 
treatment for the bent dick involves massage and bending it straight.
my wife has been doing a lot of work on this with me and it is now straighter

most men are too embrassed to talk about this but you do not want to get it from covid or any other reason.


my wife had

covid strain one
two pfizer shots
very mild delta
third pfizer shot


she was very very very sick from covid one which we got dec 2019

she had 2x pneumonia
was in hospital two times in 2020
her lungs took from jan 2020 to june 2021 to heal
she is one tough bitch
i am a lucky guy to have her as a wife.

[Cnut237]

she was very very very sick from covid one which we got dec 2019

she had 2x pneumonia
was in hospital two times in 2020
her lungs took from jan 2020 to june 2021 to heal

Glad you've both made it through okay, and particularly your wife as her experience sounds pretty horrific.

I'm interested in cases from late 2019. I had Covid-like symptoms in November 2019, normally I am lucky enough to be able to shake off viruses quite quickly with only mild symptoms, but this one hit me much harder than usual. I've heard a few other stories of similar experiences from around the same time, we were told it wasn't Covid-19 as it wasn't here (the UK) at that point. I suppose we'll never know, but I do wonder.

[TheCoinGrabber]

It seems the brands available did played a part in vaccine hesitancy.

This may have happened to an extent in my country (UK) too, where AZ was the main vaccine, but became the subject of media scare-stories (driven in part, I'm sure, by some understandable anti-UK sentiment coming from the continent).

This has led to a situation where many people here are mixing vaccines. My first 2 shots were AZ, but the booster was Pfizer. I didn't have any choice over this, the decision was made for me by the NHS.

Interestingly, there are studies* that suggest a mix-and-match vaccine buffet may confer greater protection than staying with a single manufacturer.





* Anti-vaxxers take note: the Professor Snape in this video is not the character from Harry Potter.

I find the whole thing confusing. Like first they are telling people that they shouldn't mix the vaccines and now they are telling us that just whatever, that it doesn't matter.

[philipma1957]

she was very very very sick from covid one which we got dec 2019

she had 2x pneumonia
was in hospital two times in 2020
her lungs took from jan 2020 to june 2021 to heal

Glad you've both made it through okay, and particularly your wife as her experience sounds pretty horrific.

I'm interested in cases from late 2019. I had Covid-like symptoms in November 2019, normally I am lucky enough to be able to shake off viruses quite quickly with only mild symptoms, but this one hit me much harder than usual. I've heard a few other stories of similar experiences from around the same time, we were told it wasn't Covid-19 as it wasn't here (the UK) at that point. I suppose we'll never know, but I do wonder.

She dodged multiple bullets so to speak.

she had an unknown underlying condition.

silent acid reflux which was caused by an still other underlying condition. a surface level liver cyst.

the liver cyst was big 690 ml almost the size of a bottle of wine.
that pressed on her stomach
that leaked enzymes rather than stomach acid so the reflux was painless.
when the enzymes get into her throat and lungs 🫁 they basically predigested the surfaces which is why the covid found a nice home.

she was in hospital jan 7 to jan 13 2020. they did not quite clear the infection
so she had a low fever on and off from jan 13 to march 17. a newer doctor gave her the anti viral valtrex
it knocked out the fever it never came back.

but the lungs were still being stressed by the digestive enzymes.

multiple doctors and finally in oct we rushed her to emergency room they figured out the cyst issue as it had swelled to 690 mm almost ¾ of a quart

they drained it. so the stomach was not pushed the digestive enzymes stopped stressing her
lungs. they gave her steroids the 400 day coughing finally stopped may of 2021.

we were very lucky that the gp guessed to give her an antiviral in march 2020. that killed off the virus 🦠

her oxygen went from 92 to 98 her heart went from 110-115 to 70-75

btw that is a way a lot of people die from covid. your body will rece the heart up to get a decent oxygen level. and if your heart cant run high and fast for a long time you die.

Can not tell you how fortunate we are to have survive this shit.

oh we did lose a relative to covid fall of 2021.  she feared vaxxing. she went to a funeral of a covid victim caught the delta and she died at 67 last fall.

 

[Cnut237]

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I find the whole thing confusing. Like first they are telling people that they shouldn't mix the vaccines and now they are telling us that just whatever, that it doesn't matter.

This is just how good science works. The advice is always "This is what we think right now, but the advice may change as new evidence emerges".
Initially the data on vaccine efficacy and safety came from the trials data, which was obviously based on single supplier. It wasn't that you shouldn't mix vaccines because that's bad, it was that you shouldn't mix vaccines because we don't know yet how safe or effective it will be.

Since then more than 10 billion doses of vaccine have been administered worldwide, and a lot of data have become available on safety and efficacy of mixing vaccines, for whatever reason (supply issues, concerns over a particular type of vaccine, etc).

"First they said this, now they're saying this instead" is evidence of good science. Changing your opinion based on the data is a strength, not a weakness.

[tvbcof]

<fake-dr-oeleo mode>

...
and a very bent dick known as peyronie’s disease

Comes from butt-fucking.

treatment for the bent dick involves massage and bending it straight.
...

Nah, you're doing it wrong.  What you wanna do is wrap the base in a bunch of duct tape, get a long pipe which fits pretty well down to the bend, then give it a good reef.

</fake-dr-oeleo mode>

[Ultegra134]

It seems the brands available did played a part in vaccine hesitancy.

This may have happened to an extent in my country (UK) too, where AZ was the main vaccine, but became the subject of media scare-stories (driven in part, I'm sure, by some understandable anti-UK sentiment coming from the continent).

This has led to a situation where many people here are mixing vaccines. My first 2 shots were AZ, but the booster was Pfizer. I didn't have any choice over this, the decision was made for me by the NHS.

Interestingly, there are studies* that suggest a mix-and-match vaccine buffet may confer greater protection than staying with a single manufacturer.





* Anti-vaxxers take note: the Professor Snape in this video is not the character from Harry Potter.

Also had a colleague at work who got his booster shot with Pfizer, after two shots of AZ. Unfortunately, the AstraZeneca vaccine and its recorded side effects cases also impacted vaccine credibility for a large amount of people, including anti-vaxxers who used it as a stepping stone to bash on vaccinations, based on a limited number of cases. Unfortunately, it could also have assisted in my parents not wanting to get vaccinated, despite them being over 50-60 years old, with a few underlying conditions.

[Minor Miner]

Also had a colleague at work who got his booster shot with Pfizer, after two shots of AZ. Unfortunately, the AstraZeneca vaccine and its recorded side effects cases also impacted vaccine credibility for a large amount of people, including anti-vaxxers who used it as a stepping stone to bash on vaccinations, based on a limited number of cases. Unfortunately, it could also have assisted in my parents not wanting to get vaccinated, despite them being over 50-60 years old, with a few underlying conditions.

Nowadays I'm thinking awareness is more important.
I don't think the vaccine helps. Because people are getting infected even after getting vaccinated. Just like you got infected from Coronavirus even after getting 3 doses of vaccine!!

In every country, the government is forcibly vaccinating almost everyone. But no one is thinking about the side effects that can cause great harm in the future, the only way to keep yourself safe is to keep your hands sanitized, keep yourself clean and use a mask.

[Cnut237]

I don't think the vaccine helps. Because people are getting infected even after getting vaccinated. Just like you got infected from Coronavirus even after getting 3 doses of vaccine!!

I'd say look at the data, and particularly the comparison between vaccinated and unvaccinated (as a proportion of total vaccinated and unvaccinated) for infection, hospitalisation and death. You are less likely to become infected if you've been vaccinated. You are far less likely to require hospitalisation if you've been vaccinated. You are vastly less likely to die if you've been vaccinated. I've shared the charts on this many times, as have others. We have abundant data now, so we can rely on facts rather than guesswork.

In every country, the government is forcibly vaccinating almost everyone.

I don't think that's true.

But no one is thinking about the side effects that can cause great harm in the future

We predict the future based on what we know in the present, which is that the vaccines are safe and effective. 10 billion doses administered, countless lives saved. "Let's not save lives because there may be serious side-effects in the future despite no evidence pointing to this" is not a valid argument.

the only way to keep yourself safe is to keep your hands sanitized, keep yourself clean and use a mask.

Sanitising and wearing masks helps to slow the spread, and to save lives, yes. As does vaccination.

[Ultegra134]

Also had a colleague at work who got his booster shot with Pfizer, after two shots of AZ. Unfortunately, the AstraZeneca vaccine and its recorded side effects cases also impacted vaccine credibility for a large amount of people, including anti-vaxxers who used it as a stepping stone to bash on vaccinations, based on a limited number of cases. Unfortunately, it could also have assisted in my parents not wanting to get vaccinated, despite them being over 50-60 years old, with a few underlying conditions.

Nowadays I'm thinking awareness is more important.
I don't think the vaccine helps. Because people are getting infected even after getting vaccinated. Just like you got infected from Coronavirus even after getting 3 doses of vaccine!!

In every country, the government is forcibly vaccinating almost everyone. But no one is thinking about the side effects that can cause great harm in the future, the only way to keep yourself safe is to keep your hands sanitized, keep yourself clean and use a mask.

Firstly, I never mentioned that I got infected while having 3 doses administered, I had two, while almost 7 months had passed from my second dose, if that matters anyway. Although, no one is forcing anyone to get vaccinated, whether we like it or not, vaccines have been proven effective, while there's no need to worry about these so-called future side effects.

While sanitizing and wearing a mask is part of being cautious, vaccines also provide precautionary safety measures, firstly, by decreasing chances of infection, and secondly, severely decreasing chances of death or severe illness.

[Gyfts]

Although, no one is forcing anyone to get vaccinated, whether we like it or not, vaccines have been proven effective, while there's no need to worry about these so-called future side effects.

This is the issue, people are being forced to get vaccinated with mandates. Issuing a vaccine mandate, putting someone in the position to decide between their job/livelihood or getting the vaccine is forcing the vaccine. No one serious disputes the vaccines are effective in preventing hospitalization or death; surely they serve some efficacy in reducing severe COVID illness. Ignored in the "safe and effective" conversation of vaccines are the pertinent safety issues that might arise from side effects. There is no long term data on the vaccines, someone performing a cost/benefit calculation derives a different conclusion depending on their own personal circumstances. The logic doesn't hold up for a vaccine mandate with a preventative therapeutic still requires long term studies for side effects.

Do you believe it is unreasonable to be concerned about long term side effects, or even immediate side effects, when the studies haven't even been done yet?

Pre-COVID, I've never seen anyone be called an anti-vaxxer or conspiracy theorist for inquiring about side effects from therapeutics with limited clinical trial info. I wonder what happened.

[Cnut237]

Do you believe it is unreasonable to be concerned about long term side effects, or even immediate side effects, when the studies haven't even been done yet?

I'd say it's unreasonable to be concerned about immediate side-effects, at least if you're taking one of the major vaccines. Over 10.2 billion doses have been administered, so we have a lot of data on this. It's not like we're guessing, and it's simply not true that "the studies haven't even been done yet".

It's less unreasonable to be concerned about some unknown side-effects manifesting at some future point. Obviously we can know what happens now, but can only predict what will happen in future. Nevertheless, vaccination has a long history, and we can examine that history in order to gain a better understanding of likely future behaviour. Vaccine side-effects generally show up within a few weeks or at most a few months. We can certainly go back to the 1960s with this pattern. We can't say it's impossible that there will be delayed side-effects in future, but we can make an educated guess rather than a blind guess.

[Gyfts]

Do you believe it is unreasonable to be concerned about long term side effects, or even immediate side effects, when the studies haven't even been done yet?

I'd say it's unreasonable to be concerned about immediate side-effects, at least if you're taking one of the major vaccines. Over 10.2 billion doses have been administered, so we have a lot of data on this. It's not like we're guessing, and it's simply not true that "the studies haven't even been done yet".

It's less unreasonable to be concerned about some unknown side-effects manifesting at some future point. Obviously we can know what happens now, but can only predict what will happen in future. Nevertheless, vaccination has a long history, and we can examine that history in order to gain a better understanding of likely future behaviour. Vaccine side-effects generally show up within a few weeks or at most a few months. We can certainly go back to the 1960s with this pattern. We can't say it's impossible that there will be delayed side-effects in future, but we can make an educated guess rather than a blind guess.

mRNA technology and lipid nanoparticle tech that are used in the top two vaccines, Pfizer/BioNTech & Moderna haven't been around for decades. We understand them to be generally safe, absent of any long term data. There's research dating back years involving lipid nanoparticle cytotoxicity, and it is only recently that it's being uncovered that some of the potent side effects from the vaccines are in fact caused by LNP's and not the spike proteins formed by the mRNA. Not a bad trade if you're dealing with someone that has managed to be unexposed to COVID and has significant underlying conditions. Though I'm skeptical after 2 years of anyone that hasn't been in contact with COVID in some way.

Issue is, vaccination is being pushed onto people who don't need it (ie the naturally immune and/or young folks).

[tvbcof]

mRNA technology and lipid nanoparticle tech that are used in the top two vaccines, Pfizer/BioNTech & Moderna haven't been around for decades. We understand them to be generally safe, absent of any long term data.

Nothing is GRAS (Generally Regarded As Safe) absent as much data as is needed to assess safety.  At least not before the regulators were totally bought and paid for by the entities they are supposed to be regulating.  Long term safety data associated with the particular types of lipid nanopartical formations use in the two mRNA gene therapies in question is missing, or locked up as a trade secret.  The FDA wants 70 YEARS to release this data and have gone to court to try to get it that much time.

Prior to the 'new normal' a part of 'approving' a drug was letting the victim and their doctor know what was in it (via an 'insert' which is still to my knowledge 'intentionally left blank' in all cases so far.)  The argument about 'trade secrets' is bogus because nobody else could get approval with stolen technology.

There's research dating back years involving lipid nanoparticle cytotoxicity, and it is only recently that it's being uncovered that some of the potent side effects from the vaccines are in fact caused by LNP's and not the spike proteins formed by the mRNA.

One of the main problems was that the initial story circulated to the peeps (medical professionals, John Doe, etc) is that the injection components stayed in the muscle into which it was injected.  That was a bald-faced fuckin' lie.  Authority to tell any lie necessary to get needles into arms seems to have been granted.  Maybe under 'national security' prerogatives?

Anyway, these LNPs have an affinity for certain organ tissues and migrate to them over a period of time.  The ovaries and spleen where the two main organs which had such an affinity (with Pfizer at least) and that is known because the Japanese requested the biodistribution surveys from Pfizer and the data leaked.  (Japan declined Pfizer, at least initially, and also rejected batches of Moderna which were full of metal chunks and other weird shit.)

What, exactly, the U.S. FDA knew about the bio-distribution issue remains to be seen, and again, if they get their way, that could be 70 years out.

Not a bad trade if you're dealing with someone that has managed to be unexposed to COVID and has significant underlying conditions. Though I'm skeptical after 2 years of anyone that hasn't been in contact with COVID in some way.

Issue is, vaccination is being pushed onto people who don't need it (ie the naturally immune and/or young folks).

It seems quite clear to me that if an injection is mis-applied and goes into an artery or vein, a lot more of the the LNPs than desired hit the heart.  Athletic people have bigger arteries for increased blood-flow, and probably more well functioning hearts which make them even more prone to damage when the mRNA infects heart cells.  Seems to me that the designers of the scamdemic kinda wanted to see what would happen in the case of an accidental 'mainline' because the the guidance for this intermuscular injection was to NOT aspirate which is a method whereby a person doing the injection can detect if they hit a vessel or not.

An amazing amount of stuff about this 'covid-19' operation stinks to high-heaven.  In fact, almost every aspect which can be seen at all.

[ibminer]

i am a lucky guy to have her as a wife.

Indeed you are, glad to hear everyone is mending/mended!

Curious if you are willing to share at which point in the timeline the peyronie's disease occurred?

Sorry, I'm still a no for this 'buffet', I have no trust for the guys creating and distributing this, it's not as tested as everyone claims, and it really shouldn't even be called a 'vaccine'. I'll keep my 'buffet' desires for food.

As for injecting children with 3 shots of this, the 5-12 (or even <18) age range is definitely a no for me.

This article points out some of the reasons why I'd be concerned:

This article examines issues related to COVID-19 inoculations for children. The bulk of the official COVID-19-attributed deaths per capita occur in the elderly with high comorbidities, and the COVID-19 attributed deaths per capita are negligible in children. The bulk of the normalized post-inoculation deaths also occur in the elderly with high comorbidities, while the normalized post-inoculation deaths are small, but not negligible, in children. Clinical trials for these inoculations were very short-term (a few months), had samples not representative of the total population, and for adolescents/children, had poor predictive power because of their small size. Further, the clinical trials did not address changes in biomarkers that could serve as early warning indicators of elevated predisposition to serious diseases. Most importantly, the clinical trials did not address long-term effects that, if serious, would be borne by children/adolescents for potentially decades.

ref: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8437699/     [Full disclosure, a research company who appears to have done some work with Pfizer in the past has an 'expression of concern' against this article, and is "re-reviewing" it, as of December.]

I've seen no real standards in collecting or reporting, everywhere seems to do it a bit differently and much of it relies on human entry, some places seem to take word-of-mouth numbers from facilities/humans, which just opens up multiple levels of error and corruption, and then some guy at the top aggregates it, puts his spin on it, and presents it to everyone. Multiple levels of human error and/or human corruption (which stems primarily from political, social and institutional pressures) can, and will, occur.. the environment COVID and the governments have created via mandates, shutdowns, etc. help increase those pressures, and I believe further skew the data.

Consider the criteria for determining whether an RT-PCR test result is positive for SARS-CoV-2. The CDC instruction (until 1 May 2021) specifies running the RT-PCR tests for 45 amplification cycles.

Many false positives are possible in the upper part of this cycle threshold range, especially in areas of low prevalence. In particular, virus culture has been found to be unfeasible in cases with a Ct value exceeding 33. A prospective cohort study involving the first 100 COVID-19 patients in Singapore also showed that attempts to culture the virus failed in all PCR-positive samples with a Ct value >30” [121]. During mass testing in Germany, it was found "that more than half of individuals with positive PCR test results are unlikely to have been infectious" [122].

Data feels too inaccurate for the types of decisions being pushed on a mass scale, and solely basing it on one side of the data, it seems like an inhumane decision based on politics, finances, and minimal data & trials... combined with a big-headed scientific medical community.

I know several people who vaccinated simply due to the social stigma of being 'unvaccinated', that shouldn't happen.
Others are probably just buying/printing fake vaccination cards.  

The data doesn't feel accurate enough to make these types of blanket decisions on a mass scale.. I really don't think it can be accurate in this environment, and I think that's [at least, partially] intentionally done.

[TheCoinGrabber]

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I find the whole thing confusing. Like first they are telling people that they shouldn't mix the vaccines and now they are telling us that just whatever, that it doesn't matter.

This is just how good science works. The advice is always "This is what we think right now, but the advice may change as new evidence emerges".
Initially the data on vaccine efficacy and safety came from the trials data, which was obviously based on single supplier. It wasn't that you shouldn't mix vaccines because that's bad, it was that you shouldn't mix vaccines because we don't know yet how safe or effective it will be.

Since then more than 10 billion doses of vaccine have been administered worldwide, and a lot of data have become available on safety and efficacy of mixing vaccines, for whatever reason (supply issues, concerns over a particular type of vaccine, etc).

"First they said this, now they're saying this instead" is evidence of good science. Changing your opinion based on the data is a strength, not a weakness.

Yeah, it appears those who suffered from immediate side-effects (like the woman I saw on TV that started bleeding in the gums and other part) seemed to be just a small portion of those who got vaccinated. The thing we probably need to observe now would be if there's any long-term effects but with the amount of people who got it and probably the time it'll take to appear, might be hard to isolate.

[tvbcof]

Continuing with my Ivermectin notes from above:

Whatever 'sickness' I had for this last episode threatened to cause more joint pain than the last.  Another difference is that it is having at least some impact on my upper lungs.  I have unusually strong lungs I think just based on my history which I won't go into.  This morning I felt a little more shitty, and if I coughed hard I could even feel a little bit of pain in the upper part of my lungs.  Maybe.  Anyway, I downed two Ivermectin.

The results so far have been typical.  Noticeable relief in 4 hours, and almost complete alleviation within 6.  Now, 12 hours after the dose, I feel basically fine, but I do have dense but modest amounts of phlem in my nose and trachea at least.  I haven't been able to generate a good oyster since I quite smoking (25 years ago) and still cannot under my present condition.

At this point in my Ivermectin experiments I can with decent reliability predict what impact it will have at what times for whatever family of 'flu-like' ailments is going around my present city and country of domicile.  Many many people are complaining of very similar observations: Seemingly individual instances of ailment often with a short duration fever, and it has now been maybe 6 weeks since the complaints started.

[Cnut237]

The thing we probably need to observe now would be if there's any long-term effects but with the amount of people who got it and probably the time it'll take to appear, might be hard to isolate.

Well of course, it's not impossible that there will be unknown effects that manifest several years (or later) down the line... but you have to ask yourself how likely this is.

A vaccine isn't like some pill that you take every day, that builds up in your body and continually replenishes itself. You only have a few doses of the vaccine, ever. Once you've had it, it degrades quickly because the substance isn't replenished, because you're not having a follow-up shot the next day. We have decades of vaccine history, and we don't have any evidence of late-manifesting effects. It's not impossible in the sense that nothing is impossible, but really it's incredibly unlikely. A vaccine is more like a set of one-time instructions to learn, rather than a continually replenishing shield.

If you drink a lot of alcohol regularly, you may get liver damage further down the line, due to cumulative damage from many years of heavy drinking.
If you never drink, but have one isolated night of heavy drinking, this isn't going to suddenly manifest as liver damage 30 years later. Your liver is either damaged right now, or it's not. There's no continually replenishing source of alcohol in your body to build up the damage.

[TheCoinGrabber]

The thing we probably need to observe now would be if there's any long-term effects but with the amount of people who got it and probably the time it'll take to appear, might be hard to isolate.

Well of course, it's not impossible that there will be unknown effects that manifest several years (or later) down the line... but you have to ask yourself how likely this is.

A vaccine isn't like some pill that you take every day, that builds up in your body and continually replenishes itself. You only have a few doses of the vaccine, ever. Once you've had it, it degrades quickly because the substance isn't replenished, because you're not having a follow-up shot the next day. We have decades of vaccine history, and we don't have any evidence of late-manifesting effects. It's not impossible in the sense that nothing is impossible, but really it's incredibly unlikely. A vaccine is more like a set of one-time instructions to learn, rather than a continually replenishing shield.

If you drink a lot of alcohol regularly, you may get liver damage further down the line, due to cumulative damage from many years of heavy drinking.
If you never drink, but have one isolated night of heavy drinking, this isn't going to suddenly manifest as liver damage 30 years later. Your liver is either damaged right now, or it's not. There's no continually replenishing source of alcohol in your body to build up the damage.

I didn't said it's not impossible, more like I'm wondering what these effects would be and how widespread they would be. Would it be something like 1/100, etc.

If I do get one and it's a very rare long-term side-effect, they I can at least tell myself that I took the right risk - it's rare and I'm just unlucky to be one of the few to get it.

If it is widespread though, I can imagine an outrage happening (assuming they can actually trace it back to the vaccine). On the bright side I'd have a lot of people to empathize with and share complaints, etc. "We Are All In This Together" amirite?