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January 31, 2022, 09:08:59 PM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand

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January 31, 2022, 10:06:57 PM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand

curious. source of your reading?
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January 31, 2022, 10:20:22 PM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand
please link your news

btw, what's wrong with the sex worker, doesn't she have the right to create a coinbase account? and I think this leak happened because someone might leak her identity to social media or other platforms that can be tracked with a google search

this is a strange case

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January 31, 2022, 10:26:38 PM
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I have looked to some articles if this really happens but no can do, I can't any viable source about this news that you've told. But if it's about knowing the job of the customer that they've passed through KYC, AFAIK, there's a process of interviewing them if it's necessary.
So in all means, that's the possible way of knowing the livelihood of their customer and knowing where they're getting their funds. Not essential as an interview but maybe from sort of forms and other the same stuff.
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January 31, 2022, 10:43:47 PM
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I just made a search to find the source of the news OP is talking about and couldn't find anything.
But according to their User Agreement, seems that using coinbase services for such a business and activity is not allowed.

Below is one of the prohibited businesses they have listed.

  (I) Adult Content and Services: pornography and other obscene materials (including literature, imagery and other media); sites offering any sexually-related services such as prostitution, escorts, pay-per view, adult live chat features;

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January 31, 2022, 10:45:52 PM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand

curious. source of your reading?

based from my quick search - check this article - https://survivorsagainstsesta.org/platforms-discriminate-against-sex-workers/

maybe the OP read the item #26 here -



and if you submit KYC, maybe the site happen to search your name and she's posting on her social media channel about the nature of her work. who knows? but should not discriminate a user because of the nature of work. as long as you are getting the money legally, should not turn down their services.

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January 31, 2022, 11:06:53 PM
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Since Coinbase have their own database of wallet and addresses then maybe that worker is actually withdrawing the BTC from the site directly to his Coinbase account?
BTC is not completely anonymous all transactions you made can still see in the block explorer and possible the BTC that she withdraw and the address where the BTC came from might have a name on any blockchain explorer pointing to a sex site?

I heard that Coinbase have their own way to investigate how to know if their users are using illegal activities.

That is why there are tumblers or mixers out there to completely make your transaction anonymous if you use your sex account and withdraw them and sent them directly to Coinbase there is a possibility they can know where it came from.

It's not also a good practice to use Coinbase as a wallet if you working on a sex site you must use a tumbler/mixer or if you want to exchange your BTC always use P2P exchange just to avoid that issue.

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January 31, 2022, 11:43:43 PM
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You could also ask yourself, how does Coinbase know an account is of a gambler?

Part of the information comes from heavy investment in chainalysis and KYC/AML procedure, which involves gathering a user's information at all costs.
Incase u didn't know. such sites collect a huge amount of information about you. Just check their privacy policy - https://www.coinbase.com/legal/privacy

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Personal information is typically data that identifies an individual or relates to an identifiable individual. This includes information you provide to us, information which is collected about you automatically, and information we obtain from third parties. The definition of personal information depends on the applicable law based on your physical location. Only the definition that applies to your physical location will apply to you under this Privacy Policy.

Information you provide to us. To establish an account and access our Services, we'll ask you to provide us with some important information about yourself. This information is either required by law (e.g. to verify your identity), necessary to provide the requested services (e.g. you will need to provide your bank account number if you'd like to link that account to CB), or is relevant for certain specified purposes, described in greater detail below. As we add new features and Services, you may be asked to provide additional information.

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February 01, 2022, 03:17:39 AM
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There was probably a link established between the user's account and a site whose business involves adult content and services. As hosseinimr93 pointed out, Coinbase prohibits the use of its services and platform with such business. It is indicated under Prohibited Businesses under Appendix 1 of their terms and conditions.[1]

If there was a deposit detected from a certain address linked to a site offering sexually-related services which accepts crypto like PornHub, for example, then Coinbase alarms could be triggered. 

Incidentally, what caught my attention reading Coinbase's terms and conditions is this:

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Most Prohibited Businesses categories are imposed by Card Network rules or the requirements of our banking providers or processors.

Their hands are tied.


[1] https://www.coinbase.com/legal/user_agreement/united_states

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February 01, 2022, 06:23:20 AM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand

Some of the popular porn websites made cryptocurrency as their primary payment mode for subscription so due to the regulations the coinbase also need to take care of the source of funds is whether legally obtained or not hut simply its not really possible to find someone's background but seriously they do research on every person?

That's why I hate coinbase, you have lot of other choices too...

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February 01, 2022, 07:28:56 AM
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Here https://medium.com/hackernoon/how-crypto-protects-sex-workers-with-ameen-soleimani-allie-eve-knox-from-spankchain-86bf50a4acfb

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February 07, 2022, 01:14:36 PM
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It does go back to the fact that BTC is not anonymous, it's pseudo anonymous at best.
Coinbase knows a lot of things about yourBTC, same way banks can, with a little bit of digging, find out a lot about that check you deposited.

We tend to be willfully ignorant of these things and just keep doing what we have been doing, till it bites us on the ass.


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February 07, 2022, 05:24:06 PM
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Surprising, I wasn't aware of that kind of case. By reading their terms & conditions look like sex workers do not have the right to use cryptocurrency. What a ridiculous terms and conditions. I don't know how they detect the profession if it wasn't submitted along with personal documents. Deposits and withdrawal history would detect though that is related to a porn site, but really does it indicates as a sex worker? However, those accounts been restricted could use the non-custodial wallet and use dex always. Using a centralized wallet and exchange wouldn't be appreciated anyways. We should ignore them as much as possible.

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February 07, 2022, 05:39:48 PM
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Deposits and withdrawal history would detect though that is related to a porn site, but really does it indicates as a sex worker?
Not really. Making deposits or withdrawals to a porn website doesn't mean the user is a sex worker. But if that's detected, it should be enough for the account to get closed.
According to their User Agreement, having connection (which probably means deposits and withdrawals) with any sexually-related services is prohibited.

By opening a Coinbase Account, you represent and warrant that you will not use Coinbase Services or the Coinbase Platform in connection with any of the following businesses, activities, practices, or items:

 (I) Adult Content and Services: pornography and other obscene materials (including literature, imagery and other media); sites offering any sexually-related services such as prostitution, escorts, pay-per view, adult live chat features;

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February 07, 2022, 07:16:32 PM
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Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand
Payments in Bitcoin are pseudo-anonymous but as soon as you connect them with your identity, in exchanges like Coinbase or similar, you are being tracked and your account can be blocked at any time.
Any time you sign up for account in centralized exchange like coinbase, and send them your information you are sadly going to be inside chainalasys tracking machine system.  Tongue
Only solution for her or for everyone else who still wants to keep anonymity with Bitcoin transaction is to use services like Chipmixer that will mix your coins.
Using decentralized exchanges like Bisq is a good idea because you don't need to submit any kyc, and good address management is also important if you want to function normally with Bitcoin.

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February 08, 2022, 11:19:09 AM
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Several possibilities:
  • Users acknowledge the source of their funds;
  • (As many have mentioned) The user's btc address is linked to a porn site;
  • The pseudonym can still be detected. If facial recognition detects a match (manually or AI) with a porn site user, it can be temporarily frozen for further identification.
Not really. Making deposits or withdrawals to a porn website doesn't mean the user is a sex worker. But if that's detected, it should be enough for the account to get closed.
The problem is that if prostitution is a common prohibition for coinbase users, sex workers may avoid it and find another way to trade with random coinbase users with poor verification skills.

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February 08, 2022, 03:31:44 PM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand

hm, your account is suspended because of your work?

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February 08, 2022, 04:18:09 PM
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That's is why never use a centralized wallet/exchange or must be read first their "terms and condition" before picking them as your Bitcoin wallet to avoid this kind of issue.  Since Coinbase is required KYC/AML, it's easy for them to connect those prohibited addresses that could be linked to your address which is becomes violated on your part.  That's why in Bitcoin Whitepaper, it's always recommended to change your Bitcoin address per transaction to cover your pseudo-anonymous.

So avoid using a centralized Bitcoin wallet that required KYC verification if you care about your privacy, an open-source wallet that generates a new address per transaction must be better to use.
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February 08, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
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I've been reading how Coinbase shuts down sex worker's account. I was wondering how do they know account is from a sex worker? They probably don't use your real name in sex work so even if they pass KYC Coinbase can't know unless they do a research on them.
Payments are anonyoums. I don't understand
According to their user agreement they do not allow these sites to receive and send funds from coinbase. They do not deny these workers to open account on coinbase but they prohibit them for the use on such sites where sex workers work. So they will not freeze/lock your account unless they find that any fund is received or sent to any of the adult website.
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October 30, 2022, 09:16:11 PM
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According to their user agreement they do not allow these sites to receive and send funds from coinbase. They do not deny these workers to open account on coinbase but they prohibit them for the use on such sites where sex workers work. So they will not freeze/lock your account unless they find that any fund is received or sent to any of the adult website.

Oh wow, Coinbase is new for me and it disappoints me. It's very hard with normal banks, I know that. But also Coinbase... why am I surprised? I just didn't think about the insanity within crypto, it's because of the exchange and there rules. We must accept it. I would be happy if the negative view about the adult industry finally stopped. Believe me, there are a lot of sex workers who want to do the job. 

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