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February 05, 2022, 01:44:02 AM
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?

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February 05, 2022, 02:40:07 AM
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What country are you in?

In my area it’s business as usual. Gas stations are just as busy with record high price of gasoline. Malls and restaurants also busy.

The stock market however? I frequent wallstreetbets and it looks like the last 6 months cleaned out many traders. The activity there is slower than usual. Pointing to retail market getting wiped out with all these bad earnings .
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February 05, 2022, 02:53:45 AM
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What country are you in?

In my area it’s business as usual. Gas stations are just as busy with record high price of gasoline. Malls and restaurants also busy.

The stock market however? I frequent wallstreetbets and it looks like the last 6 months cleaned out many traders. The activity there is slower than usual. Pointing to retail market getting wiped out with all these bad earnings .

Romania is my country ...i suspect delay in yours ,energy prices reduced a lot money in people pockets this year.

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February 05, 2022, 03:04:19 AM
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What country are you in?

In my area it’s business as usual. Gas stations are just as busy with record high price of gasoline. Malls and restaurants also busy.

The stock market however? I frequent wallstreetbets and it looks like the last 6 months cleaned out many traders. The activity there is slower than usual. Pointing to retail market getting wiped out with all these bad earnings .

Romania is my country ...i suspect delay in yours ,energy prices reduced a lot money in people pockets this year.

You're in a country near where the tension of war is, I guess people are warned and perhaps not buying unnecessary things today but the basic needs. Maybe the people are just cautious and save money for now. You are near the pipelines right? Is gas a problem in your country?

The crypto market isn't out of liquidity though, the price went up overnight from $37K to $41K. Volume and the spike are certainly not a confirmation of what you are saying.

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February 05, 2022, 03:10:06 AM
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  It's very bitter bro, liquidity in everyday life you mean? the supply of cash which may be less and according to every demand/economic activity whether buying and selling anything in my area, makes the money I hold has no value/slightly reduced from the exchange power. Did you just feel when the pandemic came or since when?

 My country is disappearing so quickly. But in the form of investment it may look profitable. Do you like investing or do you prefer to use money/assets for shopping?

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February 05, 2022, 03:18:39 AM
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What country are you in?

In my area it’s business as usual. Gas stations are just as busy with record high price of gasoline. Malls and restaurants also busy.

The stock market however? I frequent wallstreetbets and it looks like the last 6 months cleaned out many traders. The activity there is slower than usual. Pointing to retail market getting wiped out with all these bad earnings .

Romania is my country ...i suspect delay in yours ,energy prices reduced a lot money in people pockets this year.

You're in a country near where the tension of war is, I guess people are warned and perhaps not buying unnecessary things today but the basic needs. Maybe the people are just cautious and save money for now. You are near the pipelines right? Is gas a problem in your country?

The crypto market isn't out of liquidity though, the price went up overnight from $37K to $41K. Volume and the spike are certainly not a confirmation of what you are saying.

On basic products like vegetable oil / flour / sugar etc they set a limit that you can buy ( ration ) ...and we are one of Europe's biggest agro exporters,can't understand why people are not spending ... we are not that scared of Russia - Ukraine tensions . we are NATO country ,if Putin invades Romania we are all dead no matter what country you are ,nukes etc ...

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February 05, 2022, 03:21:49 AM
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 It's very bitter bro, liquidity in everyday life you mean? the supply of cash which may be less and according to every demand/economic activity whether buying and selling anything in my area, makes the money I hold has no value/slightly reduced from the exchange power. Did you just feel when the pandemic came or since when?

 My country is disappearing so quickly. But in the form of investment it may look profitable. Do you like investing or do you prefer to use money/assets for shopping?

if you have money invest it in productive assets ... land,miniral mines,aquaculture equipment,farm animals,websites,apps,cryptos,education,tools etc .... things that you understand and like

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February 05, 2022, 03:49:59 AM
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The likes of Amazon, Apple, and Sea Limited(Shopee, Lazada competitor; pretty much Asia's eBay+Amazon) had record breaking revenues in their 2021 Q4 reports. I'm pretty sure certain select cities/countries are definitely having their challenges, but I don't think it's the case when talking global-wise.

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February 05, 2022, 04:23:03 AM
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It is a subjective feeling that does not serve to draw any conclusions statistically. I for one have not noticed much. Yes, people are complaining about price increases, but not to the point of running out of liquidity.

Although the OP could be smelling the beginning of what is coming: when rate hikes are announced, and even some banks have already raised them, like the BoE, and stock markets go down, the rest of the economy suffers: banks start to lend less, and people start to have less liquidity, as their assets are worth less and banks also lend less to them.

Not to the point of being out of liquidity but we may be at the beginning of a downward trend.


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February 05, 2022, 06:52:48 AM
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It depends on your country actually as other contributors have said and not only that, it may also depend on you. Maybe you have not observed very well and you are thinking that is the situation or it may be you have run out of liquidity and thinking others have too. But maybe it is just what you noticed at a particular moment that you observed and thinking that is what is happening. If it is just for few hours or some days may not mean your country has gone bankrupt. Or is there war in your country ?

Given that things are very difficult and standard of living is falling in our eyes in almost all countries but I'm yet to see what will cause buying and selling to stop if not war.

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February 05, 2022, 08:27:44 AM
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Nope, not really? There have been complaints about the gradual price increase of some products here and there, but not to the point that people will not buy them. It's like complaining for 5 seconds before accepting that things would still happen nonetheless, so they just go with it. I haven't even experienced a point where groceries and the like limited the amount that they'd sell, at least in the past year (start of Covid it happened afaik). Might just be limited in your place?

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February 05, 2022, 08:31:17 AM
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?
If in your country face Omicron attack, then people should still limit their time in a public area and better stay at home because the spreads are still dangerous. But if your country does not face Omicron, the people activity slowly becomes normal and they can go out to public area but still use social distancing. I do not know if people are out of their money because that depends on managing our money. But in a developing country, yes, they are out of money plus they are weak from the Covid-19 attack.



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February 05, 2022, 08:42:02 AM
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?

Romania is my country


Inflation is on the rise, money printing goes brrrrr as usual, sooner or later the salaries will have to rise to keep up.
Indeed, now some people may have less money to invest. Some others may be even struggling to buy the basics.
This is more visible in the poorer countries, obviously. Also in the countries with better long term thinking the problem is not so big.

I want to tell that even in Romania the problems may get way bigger (much higher prices and still the old incomes) in the near future. You said that in other countries there may be delay.. we are far from the "top of the wave" yet. And luckily the winter was not too harsh.

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Interestingly all the selling businesses get richer, most rich people got richer, only the poorer one feel this. But this is how inflation works. This gap between the rise of prices and rise of wages is where people are stolen from. And yes, those who have put away fiat "for hard times" see its value dimming.

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After the Russian mess clears out (but it may take years) and the gas pipes either start getting filled, either US and Arabia fill the gap, the price rise will stop. In some cases it may be even reverted to lower/more bearable prices. But again, it may take years.

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February 05, 2022, 09:13:11 AM
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Well, people in your area are just being wise. If there's no need to buy for some things that they want, they won't buy it. They'll just buy the necessities and needs.
There's no sense of going outside to the malls if they don't have any important matter to do and to buy. This pandemic has taught me to be wiser and just buy more food than those things and stuff that I really like to have.
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February 05, 2022, 09:16:28 AM
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?

People seem to be getting squeezed by everything and it ripples throughout the economy. Fuel prices go up, which results in products and services going on (people need fuel for transport), while also causing the consumer to have less money to spend. So stuff in shops is going up in price and people cut back even further on luxuries. Lots of countries are struggling with an energy crisis, so heating their home or using air conditioning gets a lot more expensive. It seems like Covid caused all sorts of supply chain disruption with lockdowns on and off for two years, hopefully we're over the worst of it now so things can start balancing out. There are lots of other contributory factors but many people are definitely struggling when their salaries are not moving up to match.

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February 05, 2022, 11:53:11 AM
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?
Yes, it is only you or only on your country because on our country there are still people that shops on mall or on any establishments that I see but of course the number is low compared to numbers that I saw on the past but this is because of the covid pandemic where people are restricted to go out if they do not have a vaccination card.

People are now on a budget because they also lost their jobs, that is also because of the covid, that is why they are now budgeting and only buys basic items that are important. Let us hope that all of this are only temporary and we can soon go back on our previous lives where we can be more happier because we have jobs and we can roam outside freely.



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February 05, 2022, 01:07:46 PM
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?

Not really in my country. Here inflation in constantly rising and people are going crazy with their spending. It seems a bit like people are afraid to miss out a way to save their money. In my city there are so many new constructions sites. In every street you can see a shop being renovated, a new house being build or just some outdoor works. The construction companies are being booked out for the whole year already and give only indicative prices for next year now, with prices to go up 35% more this year. It's crazy, higher inflation leads to higher demand, which keeps rising the prices even higher. I wish liquidity would try out a bit to keep prices in check.
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Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ?

From what i see : market , malls etc no people,or if they buy something...they buy basic stuff... in my area ...slow biz ...same in your country ?

Yes and it's because of the economy of the country, right now things are hard (as we say in my country). Even those that do have the money and displays it at every opportunity they see has reduced drastically. Things are getting very costly so people have resulted to just securing their basic needs before any secondary wants. One of the ways you can identify there's money flowing in my country is the way election campaign are been carried out.

The last was the worst if you're judging from how other campaigns has been lively in the past. The country is in debt and the government of the day have no clue on how to revive the country's economy yet they won't set down for people with the right education and exposure to take over.

Job scarcity is increasing daily and every year new set of graduates without any specific skills but just want they were taught is been flooded into the system. Best you save what you have because if you spend all there isn't an assurance of you retaining your job or even getting paid.

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I think in most region inflation is on the high level. Most countries right now are facing tough economic challenge  which is affecting  many businesses,  some companies  find it difficult to meet up the payment of salaries of workers. Like in my country the government is owing total debt of 91000.00 USD million,  the price of everything is high, business is dull because people are managing the money they have.

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February 05, 2022, 03:18:47 PM
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I think in most region inflation is on the high level. Most countries right now are facing tough economic challenge  which is affecting  many businesses,  some companies  find it difficult to meet up the payment of salaries of workers. Like in my country the government is owing total debt of 91000.00 USD million,  the price of everything is high, business is dull because people are managing the money they have.

Well that is the problem ...if high inflation why people are not spending or taking money out of banks ...

In a healthy economy we should see money invested in private constructions ( commercial ,residential,industrial space etc ) , land,new start ups etc etc .... now here ads all over : for rent / for sale , i know a small company that repaired watches etc  that survived the 90's / 00's  now they put ad for sale on their commercial space.... so somebody is lying about economy ...

On the news i read all day : economy booming / new jobs created and so on ...but when you see it for yourself with your own eyes it's different


People are walking in New York one if the most populated places on Earth and it feels like empty ,if you look at their shops in video zero customers ...how they are surviving i don't understand ( paying salaries / rent / utilities etc )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCmZdC6Giw

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