[BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9

[AmoreJaz]

That is the point, it's too tempting and attractive to at least throw some money on Tagoe and sit and hope for an upset although the chance is very slim. The thing is, Garcia has shifted trainer here, although he is familiar with Goosen, he has been with the Reynoso camp for years and they are very successful.

So most probably those who bet on an underdog will justify this and says that Tagoe will have a chance because Garcia might be affected by switching trainers and it could have a bad repercussions on his performance.

There's something that bettors saw that's why they are willing to take that high-risk bet.

Though we all know that upset is always possible and if you take the underdog, the odd is more decent, maybe some have
a good reason why they are taking the underdog.

Or, they are real fans of Tagoe and they believe that he has that fighting chance to win over Garcia. We never know till
we see them fighting inside the ring.

just look at the odds, and you will understand if some people won't bet on garcia because it is only 1.0x only, whereas, with tagoe, it can go as high as 7x. so if you are betting small and you want to take the risk, you will really bet on tagoe even if we say, you are not a follower of tagoe. just taking your chance the possibility that the underdog will win here and go home big.

[robelneo]

just look at the odds, and you will understand if some people won't bet on garcia because it is only 1.0x only, whereas, with tagoe, it can go as high as 7x. so if you are betting small and you want to take the risk, you will really bet on tagoe even if we say, you are not a follower of tagoe. just taking your chance the possibility that the underdog will win here and go home big.

It's very tempting to bet for Tagoe but if I'm going to bet on Tagoe it should be money that I can easily afford to lose I used the word easily because I'm not even expecting 50/50 chance, this is Ryan's biggest fight because it's a comeback fight you never blow up your comeback fight, you want to make it great and unquestionable because if Ryan loses it's over for him, they are not bringing a weak fighter because the fighter has a good record although unknown.

[Fundamentals Of]

just look at the odds, and you will understand if some people won't bet on garcia because it is only 1.0x only, whereas, with tagoe, it can go as high as 7x. so if you are betting small and you want to take the risk, you will really bet on tagoe even if we say, you are not a follower of tagoe. just taking your chance the possibility that the underdog will win here and go home big.

It's very tempting to bet for Tagoe but if I'm going to bet on Tagoe it should be money that I can easily afford to lose I used the word easily because I'm not even expecting 50/50 chance, this is Ryan's biggest fight because it's a comeback fight you never blow up your comeback fight, you want to make it great and unquestionable because if Ryan loses it's over for him, they are not bringing a weak fighter because the fighter has a good record although unknown.

You are already saying that this fight is very vital for Ryan Garcia and that this is not even a 50/50 fight. I agree with you on this. The team of Ryan Garcia is picking an opponent that would make sure Ryan Garcia's comeback fight is not spoiled. That is why I don't agree with you that the team is not bringing a weak fighter against Ryan. Tagoe is a weak fighter compared to Ryan Garcia. The only thing that makes it a little bit even is that Ryan Garcia has been inactive and had undergone a mental break and a surgery.

[Jawhead999]

just look at the odds, and you will understand if some people won't bet on garcia because it is only 1.0x only, whereas, with tagoe, it can go as high as 7x. so if you are betting small and you want to take the risk, you will really bet on tagoe even if we say, you are not a follower of tagoe. just taking your chance the possibility that the underdog will win here and go home big.

Right, in some sportsbook Garcia's odds only 1.05 while Tagoe is 8.40, it's really huge gap between them. You need to have a lot money like Drake if you want to pick Garcia, it's not worth if you only bet few bucks. I will like to throw few dollars to Tagoe, perhaps April 9 is my day Hope the fight doesn't a fixed match or have something agreement on behind the ring.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

just look at the odds, and you will understand if some people won't bet on garcia because it is only 1.0x only, whereas, with tagoe, it can go as high as 7x. so if you are betting small and you want to take the risk, you will really bet on tagoe even if we say, you are not a follower of tagoe. just taking your chance the possibility that the underdog will win here and go home big.

Right, in some sportsbook Garcia's odds only 1.05 while Tagoe is 8.40, it's really huge gap between them. You need to have a lot money like Drake if you want to pick Garcia, it's not worth if you only bet few bucks. I will like to throw few dollars to Tagoe, perhaps April 9 is my day Hope the fight doesn't a fixed match or have something agreement on behind the ring.

If there is some agreement behind, it will be Tagoe diving in this match, 

And yeah, us mere mortals can't beat millions of dollars for that kind of odd, we better look for other options to bet our money with.

At last, Ryan speak of what transpired in the gym, his break down and then the comments that Canelo gave about it.

Garcia said the pivotal incident was when he walked into Alvarez’s gym last year and found himself unable to continue with his workout after 20 minutes. He recalls breaking down in tears and having to leave. Alvarez was there, a witness to the whole event,

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-on-canelo-questioning-his-discipline-you-just-shtting-on-me-what-point--164910

And the way I understand it, Garcia felt betrayed by Alvarez comments about his work ethics and others and this is the main reason for me why he leave the Reynoso camp.

[robelneo]

Garcia said the pivotal incident was when he walked into Alvarez’s gym last year and found himself unable to continue with his workout after 20 minutes. He recalls breaking down in tears and having to leave. Alvarez was there, a witness to the whole event,

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-on-canelo-questioning-his-discipline-you-just-shtting-on-me-what-point--164910

And the way I understand it, Garcia felt betrayed by Alvarez comments about his work ethics and others and this is the main reason for me why he leave the Reynoso camp.

Garcia is very sensitive he just want Ryan to improve that's a problem when everything that's been said about you, you will take it seriously you should be open to criticism, champions can take criticism and go above it, the biggest question has been, is Ryan Garcia ready for the big things, can he take the challenge we can only conclude if he has fought a top caliber fighter and won a title, but right now he is a fighter in struggle for a place in boxing.

[Yaunfitda]

Garcia said the pivotal incident was when he walked into Alvarez’s gym last year and found himself unable to continue with his workout after 20 minutes. He recalls breaking down in tears and having to leave. Alvarez was there, a witness to the whole event,

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-on-canelo-questioning-his-discipline-you-just-shtting-on-me-what-point--164910

And the way I understand it, Garcia felt betrayed by Alvarez comments about his work ethics and others and this is the main reason for me why he leave the Reynoso camp.

Garcia is very sensitive he just want Ryan to improve that's a problem when everything that's been said about you, you will take it seriously you should be open to criticism, champions can take criticism and go above it, the biggest question has been, is Ryan Garcia ready for the big things, can he take the challenge we can only conclude if he has fought a top caliber fighter and won a title, but right now he is a fighter in struggle for a place in boxing.

Maybe Canelo is just critical of Ryan, because Canelo knows what it takes to be a champion and Ryan shouldn't waste that time on his young. Of course he is still very young, but then again, it's very good to start early and be great in the next 5-10 years.

I think their friendship is now severed with this statement coming from Ryan. Even portraying Canelo as somewhat not reciprocating Ryan's support on him.

[Sanitough]

Garcia said the pivotal incident was when he walked into Alvarez’s gym last year and found himself unable to continue with his workout after 20 minutes. He recalls breaking down in tears and having to leave. Alvarez was there, a witness to the whole event,

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-on-canelo-questioning-his-discipline-you-just-shtting-on-me-what-point--164910

And the way I understand it, Garcia felt betrayed by Alvarez comments about his work ethics and others and this is the main reason for me why he leave the Reynoso camp.

Garcia is very sensitive he just want Ryan to improve that's a problem when everything that's been said about you, you will take it seriously you should be open to criticism, champions can take criticism and go above it, the biggest question has been, is Ryan Garcia ready for the big things, can he take the challenge we can only conclude if he has fought a top caliber fighter and won a title, but right now he is a fighter in struggle for a place in boxing.

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

[bitgov]

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

Some people don't have guts to accept criticism - they are too sensitive what other people think and say about them .. To be honest if you want to be a real fighter ( Mentally and physically ) you have to stop giving importance to people's option. To me criticism is  healthy - one should listen to the criticism  - if it concerns you, take it otherwise leave it there and move on..

[Baofeng]

Garcia said the pivotal incident was when he walked into Alvarez’s gym last year and found himself unable to continue with his workout after 20 minutes. He recalls breaking down in tears and having to leave. Alvarez was there, a witness to the whole event,

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-on-canelo-questioning-his-discipline-you-just-shtting-on-me-what-point--164910

And the way I understand it, Garcia felt betrayed by Alvarez comments about his work ethics and others and this is the main reason for me why he leave the Reynoso camp.

Garcia is very sensitive he just want Ryan to improve that's a problem when everything that's been said about you, you will take it seriously you should be open to criticism, champions can take criticism and go above it, the biggest question has been, is Ryan Garcia ready for the big things, can he take the challenge we can only conclude if he has fought a top caliber fighter and won a title, but right now he is a fighter in struggle for a place in boxing.

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

For me this statement from Garcia just proved what I have been suspecting after his moved to Goosen, something happen behind close door, then Canelo opening up to the public about Ryan. And I also believed that there is some politics behind it as well, (him being a Golden Boy, and it was an ugly break up between Canelo and Oscar).

Anyhow, the ball is on Ryan Garcia now, he should showed that he is back on track with his boxing career because he still has a bright future ahead of him. Forget about the drama and focus on the fight.

[mirakal]

If you think like this there's a lot of money to be made because the majority seems to think that Tagoe has slim chance of winning. I don't know him and his style so I can't say much but I'm sure people who know much more than me are taking these bets.

Nothing wrong to place a bet on the underdog as upset always happened but can't really find a good reason why an upset will happen here. Not saying Tagoe doesn't have a chance to win or as you said, a slim chance of winning but technically, Ryan Garcia is just too much for Tagoe.

But let's see if there's something special that might others a reason why a bet on Tagoe is worth placing for.

In the end, he won't be considered to fight Garcia if there's a question about his capability to win.

Tagoe's chance on defeating Garcia here is somehow slim, we know that upsetting the heavy favorite happened is always possible as it already happen often times in the boxing but just like you, I also don't see that it will going to happen in this fight. Tagoe is good and a decent boxer too, we can see it in his history and I think that's the exact reason why Garcia's camp have picked him.

Tagoe will be a ladder in Garcia's success and the risk is of a defeat is quite minimal. But for the other bettors that is somehow expecting an upset in this fight then try throwing some couple of dollars for Tagoe, the odds is too tempting too.

That is the point, it's too tempting and attractive to at least throw some money on Tagoe and sit and hope for an upset although the chance is very slim. The thing is, Garcia has shifted trainer here, although he is familiar with Goosen, he has been with the Reynoso camp for years and they are very successful.

So most probably those who bet on an underdog will justify this and says that Tagoe will have a chance because Garcia might be affected by switching trainers and it could have a bad repercussions on his performance.

Cause why not, right? The odds are so juicy to resist, so in-order to make yourself doubt free then throwing some few bucks will do the trick and maybe you will get it right. I myself might also do that too

Garcia's reasons for switching his trainer are too childish even if he will deny it verbally, Canelo was just telling that to somehow help him but the problem is, the kid took it personally.

[Sanitough]

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

Some people don't have guts to accept criticism - they are too sensitive what other people think and say about them .. To be honest if you want to be a real fighter ( Mentally and physically ) you have to stop giving importance to people's option. To me criticism is  healthy - one should listen to the criticism  - if it concerns you, take it otherwise leave it there and move on..

Right, there are those certain people who are like that and sensitive enough when they are criticized publicly and for Garcia's case, that's his weakness and he should work on that one well because someday one of his opponents will use that weakness to get in his head and that could result in defeat.

He should learn to how to accept it until he get used to it and only pick some few criticisms that could help mold his character.

[btc_angela]

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

Some people don't have guts to accept criticism - they are too sensitive what other people think and say about them .. To be honest if you want to be a real fighter ( Mentally and physically ) you have to stop giving importance to people's option. To me criticism is  healthy - one should listen to the criticism  - if it concerns you, take it otherwise leave it there and move on..

Right, there are those certain people who are like that and sensitive enough when they are criticized publicly and for Garcia's case, that's his weakness and he should work on that one well because someday one of his opponents will use that weakness to get in his head and that could result in defeat.

He should learn to how to accept it until he get used to it and only pick some few criticisms that could help mold his character.

Ryan Garcia with all his mental demons, is very sensitive at every criticism he will hear and get. Specially from someone who he treats as friend, Canelo goes to the public and reveal something that Garcia didn't like so obviously he moves out of that gym because now he doesn't feel being accepted. But then again, Garcia is still very young that's why he still has this kind of attitude, his mental attitude shows that he has a lot of things to learn from this sports and business.

[Sanitough]

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

Some people don't have guts to accept criticism - they are too sensitive what other people think and say about them .. To be honest if you want to be a real fighter ( Mentally and physically ) you have to stop giving importance to people's option. To me criticism is  healthy - one should listen to the criticism  - if it concerns you, take it otherwise leave it there and move on..

Right, there are those certain people who are like that and sensitive enough when they are criticized publicly and for Garcia's case, that's his weakness and he should work on that one well because someday one of his opponents will use that weakness to get in his head and that could result in defeat.

He should learn to how to accept it until he get used to it and only pick some few criticisms that could help mold his character.

Ryan Garcia with all his mental demons, is very sensitive at every criticism he will hear and get. Specially from someone who he treats as friend, Canelo goes to the public and reveal something that Garcia didn't like so obviously he moves out of that gym because now he doesn't feel being accepted. But then again, Garcia is still very young that's why he still has this kind of attitude, his mental attitude shows that he has a lot of things to learn from this sports and business.

He really felt backstabbed when Canelo have said and revealed something in public, Garcia may have been hurt badly because who knows he might looked up on Canelo as one of his closest friend that is supposed to help him along his career especially advice him in the years to come but I understand Canelo because I think he just did that to make him open his eyes more in this industry.

[Rufsilf]

I think that's the most cases for those kid who were born rich, they're mostly sensitive because they've been spoiled since they born and maybe Ryan is one of them, that's why he's reacting like he was betrayed by Canelo and maybe that's the also reason why he revolt and find another one to train him.

Yes, he should definitely learn to be open to some criticisms and be used about the noise surrounding him because that's quite normal while you're moving up in the boxing industry.

Some people don't have guts to accept criticism - they are too sensitive what other people think and say about them .. To be honest if you want to be a real fighter ( Mentally and physically ) you have to stop giving importance to people's option. To me criticism is  healthy - one should listen to the criticism  - if it concerns you, take it otherwise leave it there and move on..

Right, there are those certain people who are like that and sensitive enough when they are criticized publicly and for Garcia's case, that's his weakness and he should work on that one well because someday one of his opponents will use that weakness to get in his head and that could result in defeat.

He should learn to how to accept it until he get used to it and only pick some few criticisms that could help mold his character.

Ryan Garcia with all his mental demons, is very sensitive at every criticism he will hear and get. Specially from someone who he treats as friend, Canelo goes to the public and reveal something that Garcia didn't like so obviously he moves out of that gym because now he doesn't feel being accepted. But then again, Garcia is still very young that's why he still has this kind of attitude, his mental attitude shows that he has a lot of things to learn from this sports and business.

He really felt backstabbed when Canelo have said and revealed something in public, Garcia may have been hurt badly because who knows he might looked up on Canelo as one of his closest friend that is supposed to help him along his career especially advice him in the years to come but I understand Canelo because I think he just did that to make him open his eyes more in this industry.

Ryan Garcia is still a kid who only knows how to defeat his opponents as soon as possible but for the business side and critics, he doesn't know that yet that's why he is still sensitive to some of it and especially when it comes from Canelo whom he admired so much.

Don't worry folks, the kid has still a long way to go in the business and sport industry, someday he will learn it.

[Oasisman]

That is the point, it's too tempting and attractive to at least throw some money on Tagoe and sit and hope for an upset although the chance is very slim. The thing is, Garcia has shifted trainer here, although he is familiar with Goosen, he has been with the Reynoso camp for years and they are very successful.

So most probably those who bet on an underdog will justify this and says that Tagoe will have a chance because Garcia might be affected by switching trainers and it could have a bad repercussions on his performance.

Nope, switching trainers/coaches might only have a little to none effect to a skilled fighter. Nevertheless, the kid is still training what he does and he's more likely not going to change anything that compromises his fighting comfortability. Again, he's still training, so no I won't gonna buy that kind of analysis.

Ryan on this fight has all the advantages, and there's not even a huge gap in professional experiences even with years of age gap. So, betting on Tagoe is bearing a lot of risk in this match
 However, upset are inevitable.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

That is the point, it's too tempting and attractive to at least throw some money on Tagoe and sit and hope for an upset although the chance is very slim. The thing is, Garcia has shifted trainer here, although he is familiar with Goosen, he has been with the Reynoso camp for years and they are very successful.

So most probably those who bet on an underdog will justify this and says that Tagoe will have a chance because Garcia might be affected by switching trainers and it could have a bad repercussions on his performance.

Nope, switching trainers/coaches might only have a little to none effect to a skilled fighter. Nevertheless, the kid is still training what he does and he's more likely not going to change anything that compromises his fighting comfortability. Again, he's still training, so no I won't gonna buy that kind of analysis.

It could that there could be no effect at all, but we have seen fighters who switch trainers then lost the fight. And we now know the reasons behind the change of coach, do you think if Canelo didn't attack him he will switch trainer? I don't think so. So most likely, Goosen might teach him new trick, but probably will go to his old style of boxing once he gets hit.

Ryan on this fight has all the advantages, and there's not even a huge gap in professional experiences even with years of age gap. So, betting on Tagoe is bearing a lot of risk in this match
 However, upset are inevitable.

I totally agree, Garcia has all the advantage but who knows, maybe Tagoe will be on his best against Ryan and maybe put everything he have in this fight.

[Russlenat]

I totally agree, Garcia has all the advantage but who knows, maybe Tagoe will be on his best against Ryan and maybe put everything he have in this fight.

That's a huge upset if Tagoe would beat Garcia, and since Garcia has some kind of mental problem, a possible loss might make his problem gets bigger and could end his career. Sorry, my imagination is very negative, but I'm just thinking of a possible scenario here.

[freedomgo]

I totally agree, Garcia has all the advantage but who knows, maybe Tagoe will be on his best against Ryan and maybe put everything he have in this fight.

That's a huge upset if Tagoe would beat Garcia, and since Garcia has some kind of mental problem, a possible loss might make his problem gets bigger and could end his career. Sorry, my imagination is very negative, but I'm just thinking of a possible scenario here.

It's fine mate because what you were saying is really possible to happen in this fight, you know when a boxer has got some kind of mental problems especially if it was just happened recently then his opponent will really use that as their advantage, and for Tagoe here, it is highly possible that he will use Garcia's weakness to get in his head and upset him in-order to get a victory.

[Pamadar]

I totally agree, Garcia has all the advantage but who knows, maybe Tagoe will be on his best against Ryan and maybe put everything he have in this fight.

That's a huge upset if Tagoe would beat Garcia, and since Garcia has some kind of mental problem, a possible loss might make his problem gets bigger and could end his career. Sorry, my imagination is very negative, but I'm just thinking of a possible scenario here.

Hope not. His camp should lead him to focus in this fight before anything else.

It's a big upset if ever Tagoe will beat Garcia, bookies is on his favor and if fans will bet for Garcia ML is not a good value
bet if it's not in a bulk bet, ML @ 1.04 while with Tagoe bookies give him @ 7+ odd, if upset happen all those who put some
cash to Tagoe will have a decent celebration. Too early, but let see if what might happen to this upcoming fight.