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February 19, 2022, 03:26:18 AM
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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.
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February 19, 2022, 03:28:04 AM
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I can't believed that Garcia has choosen Joe Goosen as his trainer for this fight. I mean he has been with Eddy Reynoso, the trainer of Canelo Alvarez and it seems he is doing good for Ryan and Alvarez and Garcia is very close.

That's why I was surprised to see Canelo criticizing Garcia at one point. Maybe he already severed his tie with Reynoso or if this is just a one time trainer with Goosen.

There should be no bitterness or something related to that. Everything changes or unexpected things really happened. Regardless of the history or issues with the trainer, the important part is, if they will be a big help to those who hired their service.

Ryan Garcia, whatever the reason he made that selection should not be a problem.

Let's see at some point if their tandem will make Ryan a much better fighter.

I didn't say though that there is bitterness from Ryan Garcia, I'm just surprised by the move and then seeing Canelo going into public and saying things against Garcia might have been the trigger point.

@Kasabus - yeah, for sure this will be a test for Garcia, but I don't think that the rounds an be extended. I'm seeing Garcia maybe winning by less than 8 rounds?

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February 19, 2022, 03:31:06 AM
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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.

For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

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February 19, 2022, 04:23:42 AM
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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.

For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

There's a possibility that an upset will happen, but just like what the odds are saying,  the chance is very slim because Ryan Garcia is a popular fighter, a champion while Tagoe is an unknown fighter who is only good on record but has not fought yet a legit champion in boxing.

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February 19, 2022, 06:12:58 AM
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this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.
Tagoe has a good record. Just one lose.Well, maybe 2 with Ryan or probably this guy (Tagoe) give a huge surprise, who knows. Grin Lets wait for the fight.
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For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

For whales, the odd for Garcia's ML is worth enough, but for a simple gambler that's a big amount that needed

to win a decent, not worthy if you are not really into this kind of betting, its far better to wait for the alternative options, bookies
will provide if there's other available for this fight.

Not being Bias, but KO for Garcia's favor will be interesting. I agree that it is important to him to bring the hype back in his name.
If he's here to impress his fans, he might push this into a KO.
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February 19, 2022, 07:00:06 AM
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I can't believed that Garcia has choosen Joe Goosen as his trainer for this fight. I mean he has been with Eddy Reynoso, the trainer of Canelo Alvarez and it seems he is doing good for Ryan and Alvarez and Garcia is very close.

That's why I was surprised to see Canelo criticizing Garcia at one point. Maybe he already severed his tie with Reynoso or if this is just a one time trainer with Goosen.

There should be no bitterness or something related to that. Everything changes or unexpected things really happened. Regardless of the history or issues with the trainer, the important part is, if they will be a big help to those who hired their service.

Ryan Garcia, whatever the reason he made that selection should not be a problem.

Let's see at some point if their tandem will make Ryan a much better fighter.

I didn't say though that there is bitterness from Ryan Garcia, I'm just surprised by the move and then seeing Canelo going into public and saying things against Garcia might have been the trigger point.

@Kasabus - yeah, for sure this will be a test for Garcia, but I don't think that the rounds an be extended. I'm seeing Garcia maybe winning by less than 8 rounds?

Maybe it was just a coincidence, and Canelo saying negative things to Garcia isn't the reason why he approached another trainer. But we can't say for sure and I hope that's not the case as it was just a shallow reasoning.

Yeah, Garcia might have a higher chance of winning this match but I also want to see him struggle and to see that Tagoe isn't an easy one to defeat just like his records show.

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February 19, 2022, 07:58:51 AM
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this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.
Tagoe's 33 years old while Garcia's 23 years old, there's a 10 years old gap between both of them... but to be honest 33 years old isn't the matter, actually that's a prime ages in boxing. He just lacking of popularity, it's hard to find his previous fight in youtube... mostly it's uploaded with bad resolutions. He have experience, he have speed and he can box, upset could be happen here. I just hope this isn't fixed match where Tagoe let Garcia will easily, I expect this will be close fight.


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February 19, 2022, 08:22:08 AM
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this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.
Tagoe's 33 years old while Garcia's 23 years old, there's a 10 years old gap between both of them... but to be honest 33 years old isn't the matter, actually that's a prime ages in boxing. He just lacking of popularity, it's hard to find his previous fight in youtube... mostly it's uploaded with bad resolutions. He have experience, he have speed and he can box, upset could be happen here. I just hope this isn't fixed match where Tagoe let Garcia will easily, I expect this will be close fight.



33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

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February 19, 2022, 08:58:49 AM
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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that RYAN GARCIA is quite for sometimes and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards EMMANUEL TAGOE. But keep this in mind that RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.  
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February 19, 2022, 09:13:49 AM
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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.  

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

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February 19, 2022, 09:22:10 AM
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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

Seem close to the odds on Stake. Nothing yet on Playbetr.com

With odds like this, the bookmakers are almost too sure that Garcia is going to win the fight with only a very slight doubt.  It's x6 a profit for an upset fight. If you have a throwaway amount in your account, bet on Tagoe its going to be worth risking.  Or if you are a fan of Tagoe, it will be a good match to watch and perhaps pray a bit that a lucky wild punch will break the jaw of Garcia.

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February 19, 2022, 10:44:43 AM
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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.  

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

As far as I know, it is Ryan who admitted that he had mental issues:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10027201-boxer-ryan-garcia-opens-up-about-dealing-with-depression-suicidal-thoughts

Tagoe is not well know that's why there is no media coverage or following for him. Yeah, maybe he is not comfortable going to the media and would rather stay off the radar before the actual fights. And it could be that he is really focus to pull the one of the biggest upset in boxing this 2022.

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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category. 

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

As far as I know, it is Ryan who admitted that he had mental issues:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10027201-boxer-ryan-garcia-opens-up-about-dealing-with-depression-suicidal-thoughts

Tagoe is not well know that's why there is no media coverage or following for him. Yeah, maybe he is not comfortable going to the media and would rather stay off the radar before the actual fights. And it could be that he is really focus to pull the one of the biggest upset in boxing this 2022.

Yes, I remember about the mental health issues that were discussed before. But I think, boxing is the savior of Garcia to walk in the right path again and discard those suicidal thoughts. If he will not live up according to others' expectations and just do his best for himself, he won't be stressed by what needs to be done. Ryan Garcia is more popular over Tagoe, so the boxing fans are mostly rooting for him. And no doubt, even sportsbooks will favor on this match.
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February 19, 2022, 01:00:59 PM
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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.  

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

As far as I know, it is Ryan who admitted that he had mental issues:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10027201-boxer-ryan-garcia-opens-up-about-dealing-with-depression-suicidal-thoughts

Tagoe is not well know that's why there is no media coverage or following for him. Yeah, maybe he is not comfortable going to the media and would rather stay off the radar before the actual fights. And it could be that he is really focus to pull the one of the biggest upset in boxing this 2022.

I hope he is good now and he is on his way to full recovery, and the support system that he talked about is really strong, like what I said he is not yet in his full potential with a good guide and fighting opponents that can challenge him he can attain great things once he gets those big fights and he overcomes these big fights he is on his way to full recovery because the depression caused is not attaining the individual's potential

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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.  

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

As far as I know, it is Ryan who admitted that he had mental issues:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10027201-boxer-ryan-garcia-opens-up-about-dealing-with-depression-suicidal-thoughts

Tagoe is not well know that's why there is no media coverage or following for him. Yeah, maybe he is not comfortable going to the media and would rather stay off the radar before the actual fights. And it could be that he is really focus to pull the one of the biggest upset in boxing this 2022.

I hope he is good now and he is on his way to full recovery, and the support system that he talked about is really strong, like what I said he is not yet in his full potential with a good guide and fighting opponents that can challenge him he can attain great things once he gets those big fights and he overcomes these big fights he is on his way to full recovery because the depression caused is not attaining the individual's potential

Ryan Garcia seem to be healthy when he fought in the ring, but admitting he has a mental issue, that's very brave of him and I hope that he will be able to fully recover because the mental issue is a bigger enemy than a physical issue. With good mental health, he will be able to focus in the fight, and of course he can achieve his dream in boxing.

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I can't believed that Garcia has choosen Joe Goosen as his trainer for this fight. I mean he has been with Eddy Reynoso, the trainer of Canelo Alvarez and it seems he is doing good for Ryan and Alvarez and Garcia is very close.

That's why I was surprised to see Canelo criticizing Garcia at one point. Maybe he already severed his tie with Reynoso or if this is just a one time trainer with Goosen.

There should be no bitterness or something related to that. Everything changes or unexpected things really happened. Regardless of the history or issues with the trainer, the important part is, if they will be a big help to those who hired their service.

Ryan Garcia, whatever the reason he made that selection should not be a problem.

Let's see at some point if their tandem will make Ryan a much better fighter.

I didn't say though that there is bitterness from Ryan Garcia, I'm just surprised by the move and then seeing Canelo going into public and saying things against Garcia might have been the trigger point.

@Kasabus - yeah, for sure this will be a test for Garcia, but I don't think that the rounds an be extended. I'm seeing Garcia maybe winning by less than 8 rounds?

I could support your claim that of Garcia winning by less than 8 rounds, however I think it might be cutting it tight, seeing as you are underestimating Emmanuel Tagoe by quite a lot.

And as to bitterness, I would claim that there is always a certain bitterness in the air, as this fight as any fight always has a certain amount of personal feelings. Especially with the trainer history as it is.

In fact, hiring the trainer might have been motivated by personal feelings if anything.

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February 19, 2022, 05:05:06 PM
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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category. 

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

As far as I know, it is Ryan who admitted that he had mental issues:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10027201-boxer-ryan-garcia-opens-up-about-dealing-with-depression-suicidal-thoughts

Tagoe is not well know that's why there is no media coverage or following for him. Yeah, maybe he is not comfortable going to the media and would rather stay off the radar before the actual fights. And it could be that he is really focus to pull the one of the biggest upset in boxing this 2022.

Yes, I remember about the mental health issues that were discussed before. But I think, boxing is the savior of Garcia to walk in the right path again and discard those suicidal thoughts. If he will not live up according to others' expectations and just do his best for himself, he won't be stressed by what needs to be done. Ryan Garcia is more popular over Tagoe, so the boxing fans are mostly rooting for him. And no doubt, even sportsbooks will favor on this match.

I might say that the pandemic really bring the worst of many individuals regardless if you are a sport athlete or not. The good news is that Garcia has overcome his thoughts and emotions and now back in the boxing ring to prove himself again. Garcia is favored by sport books because he is young and undefeated and a champion. But he needs to train harder and not underestimate Tagoe in their fight.

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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.

For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

There's a possibility that an upset will happen, but just like what the odds are saying,  the chance is very slim because Ryan Garcia is a popular fighter, a champion while Tagoe is an unknown fighter who is only good on record but has not fought yet a legit champion in boxing.

Of course there is always that possibility. And there are probably sport bettors out there who are fond of betting on the heavy underdogs for a bigger prize, although I am not one of them. I'd rather weigh the two fighters and bet on the one who I think will win. Of course I would consider the odds right after. If the odds are like Ryan Garcia's in this fight, I wouldn't bet on ML.

This is Tagoe's break. He beats Ryan, there will be a lot of bigger opponents and larger paychecks. He has nothing to lose here so he should be going all in.
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This is Tagoe's break. He beats Ryan, there will be a lot of bigger opponents and larger paychecks. He has nothing to lose here so he should be going all in.
Yeah this is true, there's nothing to be worried by Tagoe. If he win he will get many opportunity and if he lose, it doesn't have so much impact with his previous record. While if Garcia lose in this fight, his career will be ruined. He just known as potential young and undefeated boxer, but he only fought with unknown boxer.

I think throwing few dollars to bet Tagoe isn't wrong, but yeah there's a huge risk betting him.

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