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February 09, 2022, 08:20:38 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
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February 09, 2022, 08:50:36 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
So that the reason on why you do concluded out on this kind of decision? Have you consider out on asking them if they would really be prepared on accepting something like that?

You wouldnt know unless you do try and speaking about future savings and growth then we do know the potential neither those employee of yours whether they do really accept
the risk or not.

Neither they could have it on their personal wallets or something that you do recommend on.

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February 09, 2022, 09:24:50 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
Its their choice then so be it but if you really concern about their future and you’re the employer you can still have the option to give them BITCOIN, you can actually give Christmas Bonus or other incentives thru Bitcoin because that is company discretion and they can’t do anything about it, let them decide either to sell it or to hold it. People are still hesitant to accept Bitcoin because of its risk, I understand your employees.
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February 09, 2022, 09:37:19 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
Its their choice then so be it but if you really concern about their future and you’re the employer you can still have the option to give them BITCOIN, you can actually give Christmas Bonus or other incentives thru Bitcoin because that is company discretion and they can’t do anything about it, let them decide either to sell it or to hold it. People are still hesitant to accept Bitcoin because of its risk, I understand your employees.
This can only be good if the company also educate their employees about Bitcoin, yes there’s a lot of opportunity about this market but we cannot force them to adopt since we all have difference financial status in life and many their priorities is not Bitcoin but to provide daily foods to their family. I just admire those companies who are encouraging their employees to have Bitcoin, this could be a great way to start that mass adoption in the future, let’s take this slowly and no rush at all.
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February 09, 2022, 10:03:47 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 
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If you additionally, as an incentive, send bitcoins to the wallets of your employees, then none of the employees will object to such undertakings. But in any case, you will need to carry out informational work to explain to employees what BTC is and about its prospects in the future.

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February 09, 2022, 11:39:05 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks.  BTC is legal in my country.
Good enough to know that it is legal in your country and you chose the payment method.
But, to make sure, you need to tell and explain to them about Bitcoin and also the cryptocurrency world, letting them learn by themselves so that they will exactly understand the crypto world, not only based on your suggestion only.
Crypto is a risky world although it is also an interesting world and promising for many people. But once more, it needs deep learning about Bitcoin and other cryptos.
That is why preparing them to exactly know that their decision to follow you is good for themselves or not, they are exactly ready or not.

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February 10, 2022, 03:06:11 AM
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The best I can think of is making it a bonus: you can for instance hand them a loaded paper wallet with company logo, but it's kinda important they understand what they're holding before they start messing with it. And it's important you know what you're doing too, so you don't just print this with the company's network printer.
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Exactly! This is also what I am thinking, instead of paychecks, since some of the employees could have no idea at all what is Bitcoin or how it works or how to use it, they could disagree with it, or it can work also be optional too.

Another thing is making it a bonus or incentive or company gift or benefits, it could help them to start to explore Bitcoin and it will become a huge help for the Bitcoin community as it will spread to other people.

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February 10, 2022, 05:48:02 AM
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I think that giving bitcoin to your employees as a bonus or incentive is much better idea, like what @GreatArkansas have mentioned above. It would be more effective as well in accordance to your intention of helping them save for the future. Moreover, this could encourage them to seek on how does it work in order to reap the benefits of what you have given them.

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February 10, 2022, 06:02:04 AM
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I think that giving bitcoin to your employees as a bonus or incentive is much better idea, like what @GreatArkansas have mentioned above. It would be more effective as well in accordance to your intention of helping them save for the future. Moreover, this could encourage them to seek on how does it work in order to reap the benefits of what you have given them.

It depends on what kind of employee you have. If you own a SME business with a minimal profit, Most of the employee on this kind of workplace is heavily in need of money so the tendency for them to immediately convert Bitcoin into fiat is very and also they might give them some inconvenience in case they start from the scratch in crypto. It's important to ask for there consent first on doing this kind of method and always give them a choice. In case they suffer loss in crypto because of there lack of knowledge, He/she might spread negativity about Bitcoin to his/her colleagues due to his bad experience.

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February 10, 2022, 08:32:16 AM
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The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
As much as I like Bitcoin, I wouldn't put all my eggs in this one basket when it comes to pensions. I do agree Bitcoin has a much higher upward potential than traditional stocks, but it's also more volatile and much more uncertain.
However, even if it's just 10% of the pension, it's very well possible this 10% is worth more than the other 90% by the time you retire. But it's not certain.

you will need to carry out informational work to explain to employees what BTC is and about its prospects in the future.
Don't underestimate this! "Being your own bank" in a secure way for several decades is not that easy.

Also keep in mind the cost of collecting small Bitcoin inputs later on: if you retire and have hundreds of inputs each worth 0.0005BTC, it could be very expensive (in terms of transaction fees) to spend. If you're considering paying small amounts per month, it's better to make it annual larger amounts.

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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
Even if you think like that, if someone doesn't know much about bitcoin, they will still refuse it. It's like you introduce someone to something new, but he doesn't care about that. Bitcoin cannot be forced on any people because only people who are aware of a new thing and believe in something can become bigger in the future that will use bitcoin.

Perhaps, you can take another approach to introduce bitcoin and open their eyes that bitcoin can be their future savings. If you can use that, I think they slowly open their minds. Bitcoin can give something worth it to them.
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February 10, 2022, 10:22:17 AM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
You really care for them. Honestly, I think this is already out of company's concern but you're making a difference and really giving them some idea on what they should wisely with their money. You can start by making a survey first and how much percentage of your employees are interested in bitcoin and willing to accept btc through their salary like 50% fiat / 50% in bitcoin. That's going to give you an idea on how many of them are willing to do that.

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February 10, 2022, 10:37:58 AM
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I think that giving bitcoin to your employees as a bonus or incentive is much better idea, like what @GreatArkansas have mentioned above. It would be more effective as well in accordance to your intention of helping them save for the future. Moreover, this could encourage them to seek on how does it work in order to reap the benefits of what you have given them.
That's right, of course there is nothing wrong with giving Bitcoin to employees and this is something new for sure,
with the value of Bitcoin continuing to rise I think employees will also welcome the decision,
Of course, everyone has their own opinion about giving Bitcoins to employees and that's okay

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February 10, 2022, 01:16:15 PM
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Truth is, no matter how noble your intention is, you must first discuss that means of payment to the employees. Otherwise, they're likely going to kick against it and see it as dictatorial on your part. And they will be absolutely right to have that conception of you in that regard if it happens so. By letting them know ahead, you would've sounded the caveat to them on the downside of Bitcoin too. So they know whatever comes out of it in dip immediately payment is made won't be your fault.

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February 10, 2022, 05:58:03 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 

The intent is to give them BTC for future savings and growth.  Since there likely isn't much of a return for employees in the future with traditional pensions, perhaps they will have better luck with the growth of BTC they personally hold for the long term.
So that the reason on why you do concluded out on this kind of decision? Have you consider out on asking them if they would really be prepared on accepting something like that?

You wouldnt know unless you do try and speaking about future savings and growth then we do know the potential neither those employee of yours whether they do really accept
the risk or not.

Neither they could have it on their personal wallets or something that you do recommend on.
Given the option, everyone would pick the money in their pocket right now, so that they could decide on what they could invest into. If they want bitcoin then they would do it anyway, if they want something else then they will do something else. If however you "force" them by simply giving it, then there is nothing that you are taking away at all.

You are simply giving something extra and that is fine if you ask me. If my boss told me "everything will stay the same, I will just add bitcoin pension on top of it all" then I would accept it without a heartbeat, not like there is anything to accept since it is all free. So, the method is the important one, not giving choice part.

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February 10, 2022, 06:48:52 PM
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Considering getting each employee a wallet and sending them bitcoin per month.  Or I can give them fiat per month to their wallet and they buy bitcoin...

Cant really do it through IRA or RRSP unless it goes through something similar to iShare EFT. But I'd prefer them to have the pure asset over the long haul.
Can you give extra details if what was the nature of your company? What age group of the people working in your company and how much people working on your company. For us to know why they reject your offer? And can you clear what you mean by give? Because to me give means different from the salary that you pay. If you give them free coins why will they ignore it?

But, you should consider this so that they can practice using btc and if they will like it they are the one's that will demand to you that they want their salary in the form of btc. Do not under estimate the pension and other incentives that you provide because they are usable in the future. No risks involved with them compared with btc.
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February 10, 2022, 06:53:55 PM
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That is a great decision to give your employees a salary in BTC. If he/she will be smart he/she must hold it for the future. We all know that the future is BTC. Now the world is becoming digital day by day, we also must develop ourselves.
I hope your employees will use it in the right way.

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February 10, 2022, 06:55:21 PM
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Truth is, no matter how noble your intention is, you must first discuss that means of payment to the employees. Otherwise, they're likely going to kick against it and see it as dictatorial on your part. And they will be absolutely right to have that conception of you in that regard if it happens so. By letting them know ahead, you would've sounded the caveat to them on the downside of Bitcoin too. So they know whatever comes out of it in dip immediately payment is made won't be your fault.

Well, I'm not sure I understood well, whether the owner wants to pay salaries in BTC or wants to gift BTC to his workers as some bonus!? I guess if it's the first one then he should listen to his employees and what they have to say about that, if it's a gift then workers should accept it and be grateful for such a good boss! As you say no matter how noble intentions are some people depend on their salaries and they don't wish to invest further, they need cash to survive through the month!

I think that giving bitcoin to your employees as a bonus or incentive is much better idea, like what @GreatArkansas have mentioned above. It would be more effective as well in accordance to your intention of helping them save for the future. Moreover, this could encourage them to seek on how does it work in order to reap the benefits of what you have given them.

If the owner can allow himself a bit more expenses for the happiness of his workers then this would be the best choice!

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February 10, 2022, 07:42:03 PM
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Sorry --- the employees will retain their fiat pay checks. 
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If you additionally, as an incentive, send bitcoins to the wallets of your employees, then none of the employees will object to such undertakings. But in any case, you will need to carry out informational work to explain to employees what BTC is and about its prospects in the future.
If it is given as an incentive then I doubt anyone will complain, after all who does not like like a little bit of more money at the end of the month, even if that money comes in a form they have never heard before no one is bound to complain, however as mentioned by other members, if this is being done to help them so they not only rely on fiat for their savings when they retire then it is important to give them some financial education as well, otherwise it is entirely possible they convert that bitcoin to fiat immediately and spend it.
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February 10, 2022, 07:52:04 PM
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Anyone doing this now?

Considering getting each employee a wallet and sending them bitcoin per month.  Or I can give them fiat per month to their wallet and they buy bitcoin...

Cant really do it through IRA or RRSP unless it goes through something similar to iShare EFT. But I'd prefer them to have the pure asset over the long haul.

Any thoughts, ideas, what apps to use
Uhmmmm, I think almost everyone wearing a signature on the forum is doing just that with there company. Receiving bitcoin in its dollar equivalent as a means of payment, lol...

If your thinking of getting a bitcoin payroll going for your staff  its cool. You would be doing then a good that only a handful might realise.  Though, you don't have to be a tyrant about it of, you've been using traditional means for payment before hand. You could suggest it and the few who will go with it, you start with them.

But, its important that you teach them on what bitcoin is about, how to secure there payments, how to make the most of it and how to exchange it for fiat if they sole need.

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