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February 11, 2022, 08:58:51 PM |
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In short, the two columns made me reflect and it turns out that when I think about it, I personally haven't been able to fully become one of the two which is truly ideal, whether called a trader or a gambler. We're still mixing up the two concepts and making it look as if they're in one column. That's the fact, no one really makes me admit, just a trader who joins in and gamblers who are always surprised to bet big and find it difficult to accept defeat.
I guess its clear to you now that trading is very different from gambling. And you could be a good trader or a successful gambler if you like depending on your own choice and the risk you want to take. But if you prefer to do good in trading, learn to improve your skill and upgrade you strategies in trading so you won' be trading and end up being a gambler in the long run. That usually happens with traders who are not totally focused on their own goal. Once you do realize off these things then you would able to distinguish on whats their main difference which means that you would definitely be mindful about your actions on not to have a gambler like mind when you do make out some trades and since you do know already that you could make profits or sustain yourself in the market if you done it well then its up to your own actions and decisions on the possible outcome that you would experience. Determine the level or kind of risks not only on investment or gambling but on other industries as well even though it wouldnt be so clear but you could actually able to notice it out.
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February 11, 2022, 09:22:55 PM |
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I would like to offer one more characteristic of gamblers in trading industry. Gambler-trader is following different "professional" traders from internet and youtube. Please, never rely on someone's opinion. Everything is not like it really seems. Here could be risk strategy what to do and how to save your funds but in general no guarantee.
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Level of risks will vary and how you do tend to handle it out because not all would really be mindful about that certain risks and they would just simply make out further steps without thinking.
Risk is something that should really be handled out and if you cant able to do that they would really be seeing a big problem towards this one because you couldnt able to determine which
one should be done and which one shouldnt be done.As long you are aware then you could able to sustain yourself on this unpredictable market.
At the end of the day it is not always "more risk more reward" for some of the investments. At the end of the day if you are reaching to a point where the risk is just silly and you are losing then it doesn't make sense. Like how that babymusk or whatever rugpull I just saw, that was an obvious rug pull and that ended up stealing money from everyone and leaving. That was obvious and if you got into it thinking that you would outpace everyone and get in and make profit and get out then you will not be making any profit at all. This is why I would say that there is nothing that could make you profit at that level of risk. I rather buy bitcoin and make 10% in a year than put my money in those silly things.
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February 12, 2022, 10:43:48 AM |
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In short, the two columns made me reflect and it turns out that when I think about it, I personally haven't been able to fully become one of the two which is truly ideal, whether called a trader or a gambler. We're still mixing up the two concepts and making it look as if they're in one column. That's the fact, no one really makes me admit, just a trader who joins in and gamblers who are always surprised to bet big and find it difficult to accept defeat.
I guess its clear to you now that trading is very different from gambling. And you could be a good trader or a successful gambler if you like depending on your own choice and the risk you want to take. But if you prefer to do good in trading, learn to improve your skill and upgrade you strategies in trading so you won' be trading and end up being a gambler in the long run. That usually happens with traders who are not totally focused on their own goal. Once you do realize off these things then you would able to distinguish on whats their main difference which means that you would definitely be mindful about your actions on not to have a gambler like mind when you do make out some trades and since you do know already that you could make profits or sustain yourself in the market if you done it well then its up to your own actions and decisions on the possible outcome that you would experience. Determine the level or kind of risks not only on investment or gambling but on other industries as well even though it wouldnt be so clear but you could actually able to notice it out. I personally have also realized that, like it or not, market conditions seem to make us gamble to become gamblers or become traders. However, so far these actions have made me of course be careful and try to invest more than trade. Due to the fact that it is suitable for my activities in investing. Not to be missed, gambling has always been a mere entertainment alternative to relieve weekend fatigue. Now back to the principle of trading which relatively makes it difficult for beginners, as a result finding a dead-end in trading led to the concept of gambling.
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February 12, 2022, 04:09:33 PM |
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I would like to offer one more characteristic of gamblers in trading industry. Gambler-trader is following different "professional" traders from internet and youtube. Please, never rely on someone's opinion. Everything is not like it really seems. Here could be risk strategy what to do and how to save your funds but in general no guarantee.
Well said, even the so called signal providers aren't to be trusted as they enriched themselves instead of helping out their followers. If you want to become a trader, go learn the skills as it's very learnable. You just have to be willing to sacrifice some time and funds. Also you have to be dedicated to learning because there'll be challenges on the way. Master trading and you'll realized all the so called expert traders online are just fraud and yet they get massive following. Distinguishing between gamblers and traders is very easy in the market as majority has little or no knowledge on trading but just hoping on luck and what some expert said to place sell or buy orders. Gamblers are the wishful thinking, while traders make predictions based on what they interprete from the charts.
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February 13, 2022, 01:59:37 AM |
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In short, the two columns made me reflect and it turns out that when I think about it, I personally haven't been able to fully become one of the two which is truly ideal, whether called a trader or a gambler. We're still mixing up the two concepts and making it look as if they're in one column. That's the fact, no one really makes me admit, just a trader who joins in and gamblers who are always surprised to bet big and find it difficult to accept defeat.
I guess its clear to you now that trading is very different from gambling. And you could be a good trader or a successful gambler if you like depending on your own choice and the risk you want to take. But if you prefer to do good in trading, learn to improve your skill and upgrade you strategies in trading so you won' be trading and end up being a gambler in the long run. That usually happens with traders who are not totally focused on their own goal. Upgrade yourself if you do really want to sustain here on trading market on which you shouldnt really be having that gambler like mind because you would lost much in trading and just like other been saying that gambler like mind doesnt really fit out with this kind of industry.Try to see on whats your motive or views towards trading or gambling. You should able to differentiate on which one is for entertainment and which one which is good for investment.So its up to your own choice!
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February 13, 2022, 02:23:57 AM |
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Yes, it's correct. That's trader make profits and gambler get loss every time. Gambler has no knowledge about market analysis, when he sees a coin increasing he buy that instantly. that's why he often gets loss. The gambler always does short-term trades, but the trader knows fundamentals so he does long-term trades.
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February 13, 2022, 08:49:54 AM |
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well, the very big difference i know from gamblers and traders is, gamblers purely expect luck in doing that, while traders are based on analysis, research and also other things to get it. Moreover, in the world of traders you are not risking your money 100%, even when the price drops, you still have the same amount of assets. whereas in gambling, when you lose, you lose everything.
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February 13, 2022, 03:00:51 PM |
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Yes, it's correct. That's trader make profits and gambler get loss every time. Gambler has no knowledge about market analysis, when he sees a coin increasing he buy that instantly. that's why he often gets loss. The gambler always does short-term trades, but the trader knows fundamentals so he does long-term trades.
Op is not referring to those who just jump into trade and gamble with it but he is talking regarding the word gamble itself, that is those who bet games or stakers. So not the way you have understood it and analysed it, they are quite different. Gambling your trade is not same thing as gamble with betting of games like football match, poker or other casino games, they are different I hope you understand that now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 13, 2022, 05:51:12 PM |
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I personally have also realized that, like it or not, market conditions seem to make us gamble to become gamblers or become traders. However, so far these actions have made me of course be careful and try to invest more than trade. Due to the fact that it is suitable for my activities in investing. Not to be missed, gambling has always been a mere entertainment alternative to relieve weekend fatigue.
Now back to the principle of trading which relatively makes it difficult for beginners, as a result finding a dead-end in trading led to the concept of gambling.
You missed something, I have said it here and realized that from market conditions like this we are indeed required to be bettors, namely willing to bet on the bear market or bull market. If you notice, that things are almost difficult to predict, apart from relying on knowledge and instinct which coin we should invest in, the definition of trading activities that are considered legal turns out to be in the realm of the concept of gambling. Lol
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February 13, 2022, 06:50:14 PM |
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There is famous saying that "In Gambling, winner is the one who knows when to stop." I think this fits into trading also in many aspect. Like you invest when its right time to buy and sell when you see your target price rather then getting greedy for more profit. Just my few satoshis on this trader vs gambler difference.
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February 13, 2022, 07:08:42 PM |
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well, the very big difference i know from gamblers and traders is, gamblers purely expect luck in doing that, while traders are based on analysis, research and also other things to get it. Moreover, in the world of traders you are not risking your money 100%, even when the price drops, you still have the same amount of assets. whereas in gambling, when you lose, you lose everything.
Trading is a game of knowledge and skill, while gambling is purely a game of luck and chance. Gambling creates faster profits but more often ends up in a loss, while trading is mostly observed on making slower profits but more sustainable. However, both share a common thing, that is having its own risk. But at the end of the day, trading becomes more profitable if you have the skill and good strategies being used, while gambling since you have the less control to make profits, so mostly gamblers end up losing than making additional profits.
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Yes, it's correct. That's trader make profits and gambler get loss every time. Gambler has no knowledge about market analysis, when he sees a coin increasing he buy that instantly. that's why he often gets loss. The gambler always does short-term trades, but the trader knows fundamentals so he does long-term trades.
I think you missed a lot of what we were talking about and railed against gamblers so far. Those are two different principles of making money. That's why the OP gave it to us to know the basic difference not to beat each other. Don't let you misinterpret what the OP is trying to convey. Because here for us gamblers are still gamblers and traders are still traders. Based on the criteria and interests of each.
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Silberman
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February 14, 2022, 08:23:19 PM |
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The most striking difference that I have ever experienced is when we choose a coin based on hype, not analysis, and follow a few other friends to buy the coin. Next, just hope that the pump cycle will approach the coin and wait for the price to actually pump. Furthermore, if the price continues to be dropped, it doesn't matter because there is only a small amount of money. In this case, doesn't this include gambling because it's like relying only on luck? This was what I ever did at the past time, playing with shit coins and meme coins. And, this has to be stopped before we are addictedwith this kind of cycle.
Personally I do not think of it as gambling because at least when you gamble you will get some fun out of the games you are playing, something that is not true when you invest in those coins that have nothing but hype behind them, to me that is just an irresponsible act that will bring bad consequences sooner or later, after all if they happen to win then that person believes that this is a legitimate investment option and will keep doing it, while if they happen to lose then they will keep doing this in order to recover the money they have lost.
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seleme
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February 14, 2022, 09:47:06 PM Last edit: February 14, 2022, 10:00:53 PM by seleme |
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It is what it is in gambling, you will get more loss streaks in case of chasing loss but things work differently in the trading world. Money management is the main key in both, having a self-dedication can save your day in trading while everything depends on your luck at the moment you decide to gamble. The more you play on gambling platforms, the house edge keeps eating your balance since slots have an average of 96% RTP while in trading you can minimize trading costs with correct platform/brokers decisions.
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February 14, 2022, 10:58:10 PM |
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It is what it is in gambling, you will get more loss streaks in case of chasing loss but things work differently in the trading world. Money management is the main key in both, having a self-dedication can save your day in trading while everything depends on your luck at the moment you decide to gamble. The more you play on gambling platforms, the house edge keeps eating your balance since slots have an average of 96% RTP while in trading you can minimize trading costs with correct platform/brokers decisions.
In gambling, you will have less control of your finances because your only goal is to win, but at the end of the day gambling makes you poorer while gambling operators ensure that the house will always end up making money. Winning in gambling has a very slim chance, which gives big opportunities for the house edge to gain all your lose capital. However, trading does not depends on luck, but definitely rely on your learned knowledge, skill and strategies that will give you an edge over the other traders and help you gain the profits. Though both have their own risks, but trading with right attitude has more guarantee to make profits than losing your capital.
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February 17, 2022, 08:40:47 PM |
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It's sad that there are so many traders today who behave like gamblers. They expect instant profit when trading crypto, it will only make them experience failure. Crypto trading requires a fairly long process, in order to understand how to make a profit correctly. So we can't expect instant profit when we trade crypto. Then there are traders who trade without careful planning, they only trade based on signals from other people which are not necessarily accurate. Becoming a successful trader is very difficult and requires struggle, so make sure we learn how to be a true trader, before finally deciding to trade crypto, so that our behavior when trading is not like a gambler.
What happens is that a lot of people do not really understand the difference between the two, it is true that in both you need to take a risk, however while in gambling the risk that you need to take is fixed by the casino and you cannot change it, when it comes to trading that risk is always fluctuating and it is up to you to find the time when the risk is at its lower point and it can offer the biggest benefits as well, and this is something that people never learn, and as such they keep making mistakes when they trade.
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February 17, 2022, 10:58:46 PM |
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I don't believe in some of the distinction presented because is not only gamblers that has the mind for quick return on investment but traders does that too. What are them looking for is nothing other than good return on their capital they invest in either trading or gambling.
Indeed, aiming for a profit is what we aim for whether it was gambling or trading. But what makes us different from trading is that we become more strategical to win the market and the more we need to enhance our knowledge and skill, unlike in gambling where we just rely upon luck and nothing else. But to compare the two which one probably gives us more losses, I believe it was gambling. However, being please with what we do is very important than money but yeah, don't make fall of yourselves into gambling if you aim for returns as this is very unlikely.
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February 18, 2022, 11:40:59 AM |
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I like the 5th note. 5) When enduring a loss or two (or three), traders neither get emotional nor try to revenge the markets. They know that if they obey risk management principles and open high risk-to-reward positions, they will cover all their previous losses and get back to making profits. Gamblers, on the other hand, get angry and start attempting to revenge the market by making foolish decisions and entering many illogical trades. Source: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/TRrwICB7-Traders-vs-Gamblers-Know-the-main-differences/I had been in this situation before, all I wanted was to reclaim the lost funds. But I realized my mistakes after losing all the funds that it doesn't work like that. Yes, it became a gamble instead of analytic trading. You tend to lose yourself and forget about the plans you made. The urgency to win it back will cloud your mind that you don't think straight anymore. Well, it's a good learning point as long as you realize it in the end. Thanks for the reminder.
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February 18, 2022, 11:47:51 PM |
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The both parties are risk takers,but the difference is that every trader is always hopeful of recieving profit in return,while gamblers takes risks without expecting anything in return.
Gamblers are liable to give as a result of continuous loosing,while traders hardly give up especially when they are receiving little profit in return and are always very hopeful of getting the bigger ones.
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