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February 19, 2022, 10:54:57 PM |
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The whole of the Bitfinex Sega is a big blow on the entire game as most people believe is not an outside job as the whole hack process went on a smooth manner until all the coins were moved to a private wallet and even some percentage of that amount was transferred and converted.
I don't think this hack will have any negative impact on the economy be it decentralized or centralized economy, the amount stolen can morale much effect on the general cryptocurrency market.
with a market capitalization of almost $2 trillion, this amount will not affect the global market in any way. The impact can only be at the level of the exchange that was robbed, reputational losses, but nothing more. Again, only the exchange was compromised, not the crypto algorithms. In a word - everything is quiet, everything is calm, there was an ordinary "pickpocket" Indeed it will not affect the market since the evildoer will not dump all those stolen amount in bulk they dump it little by little so that people will not notice their illegal activities done recently. For sure they already plan their exit so expect those amount might be seen once this issue sink and replace by different one so for worrying about the possible dump well in my opinion we don't need to worry about that. We have already seen a lot of hacking incidents and seizure of big amount of bitcoins. And they only influence the market at a short period of time. Let us say for example, the government will put up the seized bitcoins into auction, only few days that they will make a dent in the market. But after several days or so, we are back again to where it was. You can also compare the amount to the amount in circulation, and calculate its percentage and you will already know what impact it can give to the btc market. We could really make out those calculations but to presume out that not all of those coins would really be sold which means its neither on those parts or its better to calculate out on maximum on which you do at least have the idea on where it could possibly go down but its true that it would really be that temporal on which even it do dips but still it would really be that having that recovery later on. We have seen several exchange hacks and these seizures of coins in the past and its neither it do made out some significant effect or not.
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Aside the hack, it was stated that they own one of the wealthiest bitcoin account of which i know that privacy is not secured here which is one of the major reasons one have not to make use of centralized exchanges.
As am against any unlawful act as such in Bitfinex hack, my question is that, what can we say about government impact on regulating crypto as in the case of Bitfinex.
What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The economic impact is minimal, a few billion dollars worth of crypto could manipulate the market short term, but the larger economic ramifications won't be anything that someone should worry about. Software is fallible to human hackers, so it goes without saying that you carry the risk of losing your coin if you decide to not retain control over your private keys. Government doesn't have any place regulating because of hack, it should just serve as a costly lesson when people entrust these exchanges. And what would government do anyways? Bitfinex has a financial incentive to secure people's coins, government doesn't need to be involved.
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February 20, 2022, 07:26:45 AM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough.
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February 20, 2022, 10:55:30 AM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough. I don’t think that even technically it will be possible to put up such a volume for sale on official exchanges. Again - do not forget about regulatory risks, I'm sure exchanges have a set of rules that came from regulators on how to behave in some situations, including the release of significant volumes to the market, which can lead to pronounced negative consequences. Account blocking "for trial" - and the drain was stopped ..
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February 20, 2022, 01:53:02 PM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough. I don’t think that even technically it will be possible to put up such a volume for sale on official exchanges. Again - do not forget about regulatory risks, I'm sure exchanges have a set of rules that came from regulators on how to behave in some situations, including the release of significant volumes to the market, which can lead to pronounced negative consequences. Account blocking "for trial" - and the drain was stopped .. I don't think it is a smart move to sell it all at once as it will create a red flag to the exchange that they will use. If we are talking about the remaining funds from the hack. But if we are talking about the seized funds, usually, the government will put that into auction. It may create a dump for that period, but afterwards, the market will just go back to normal as I have stated in my previous post. This is what we have seen in previous auctions. So for those who want to get some cheaper satoshis, they can keep up with the dates of the possible auction for those seized BTCs. But right now, it seems more investigations are needed on this case.
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February 20, 2022, 02:54:53 PM |
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The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough.
I don’t think that even technically it will be possible to put up such a volume for sale on official exchanges. Again - do not forget about regulatory risks, I'm sure exchanges have a set of rules that came from regulators on how to behave in some situations, including the release of significant volumes to the market, which can lead to pronounced negative consequences. Account blocking "for trial" - and the drain was stopped .. You could do p2p type of deal to people who do not know better, but that would be risky move as well because you are doxxing yourself when you are doing one to one trading. I would still guess that any method that allows them to mix the money would be the best way for them to get the money out, not that they could right but not at the same time this is for anyone. If we have some sort of preventions for all these hacks and other stuff then it would mean that we are talking about a bit more safety and security in crypto. That's not really that bad, while people are unhappy that anti-vaxxers getting their money blocked, we are seeing hackers getting their accounts blocked and for some reason one of them is unfair while the other one is fair and I believe that they are both needed at the same time, if we could have regulations on exchanges, then it is fine, if you want to be fair then use non-custodial wallets.
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February 20, 2022, 02:59:43 PM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
Short tearm, some minor dip in the market and this isn't because of a direct sell effect of this Bitcoin. Others have given a perfect reason so I won't have to repeat what they have said but you should know the government don't use your regular spot exchange and that's the platforms that gives Bitcoin its current price. This dip will be because of news like yours spreading this information and creating fud among the community. Many (especially) those with less or no knowledge about how things are been done will panic and sell off their Bitcoin in anticipation of a dump which will then bring about the dip in price. In situations like this, you shouldn't join the crowd in panicking instead seized the opportunity in buying discounted Bitcoin for yourself because in the long run, Bitcoin is likely to be higher than its current value due to the power of scarcity resulting from a limited supply of coin that Bitcoin posseses.
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February 20, 2022, 09:03:48 PM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough. I don’t think that even technically it will be possible to put up such a volume for sale on official exchanges. Again - do not forget about regulatory risks, I'm sure exchanges have a set of rules that came from regulators on how to behave in some situations, including the release of significant volumes to the market, which can lead to pronounced negative consequences. Account blocking "for trial" - and the drain was stopped .. I don't think it is a smart move to sell it all at once as it will create a red flag to the exchange that they will use. If we are talking about the remaining funds from the hack. But if we are talking about the seized funds, usually, the government will put that into auction. It may create a dump for that period, but afterwards, the market will just go back to normal as I have stated in my previous post. This is what we have seen in previous auctions. So for those who want to get some cheaper satoshis, they can keep up with the dates of the possible auction for those seized BTCs. But right now, it seems more investigations are needed on this case. If we return specifically to this situation - as you can see, state structures have the potential to investigate a crime, and even investigate, solve a crime and return most of the funds! Yes, despite the fact that it was an intangible asset! This is a good signal in fact - it means that there is control, there are structures that can solve such crimes, and most likely there are protocols for interaction between the state and crypto exchanges for such cases. And of course, do not forget about the "mental abilities" of the kidnappers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 20, 2022, 09:53:34 PM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough. I don’t think that even technically it will be possible to put up such a volume for sale on official exchanges. Again - do not forget about regulatory risks, I'm sure exchanges have a set of rules that came from regulators on how to behave in some situations, including the release of significant volumes to the market, which can lead to pronounced negative consequences. Account blocking "for trial" - and the drain was stopped .. But they would still able to make out some sale on gradual manner plus having those mixing possibilities or methods on which you could really able say that it isn't impossible to do so. Despite on having those strict regulation they could still able to pull it off even though not in bulks but it would be still significant.Every exchange hacks and the stolen coins attached to it would surely be creating not only on mental but also in emotional aspect on which it could stir up the entire market on that case.
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February 20, 2022, 10:25:10 PM |
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What impact do you think this will have on bitcoin price if the total seizure were back into circulation?
The effect may be there if those who get the Bitcoin back to sell it simultaneously, but it seems like they are experienced traders who will very likely try to influence the market to be able to make the price of BTC go up in order to get more profits compasate, all this time because they can not use their BTC to trade long enough. I don’t think that even technically it will be possible to put up such a volume for sale on official exchanges. Again - do not forget about regulatory risks, I'm sure exchanges have a set of rules that came from regulators on how to behave in some situations, including the release of significant volumes to the market, which can lead to pronounced negative consequences. Account blocking "for trial" - and the drain was stopped .. But they would still able to make out some sale on gradual manner plus having those mixing possibilities or methods on which you could really able say that it isn't impossible to do so. Despite on having those strict regulation they could still able to pull it off even though not in bulks but it would be still significant.Every exchange hacks and the stolen coins attached to it would surely be creating not only on mental but also in emotional aspect on which it could stir up the entire market on that case. It's not just that I indicated the "mental abilities" of the thieves, in quotation marks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I wonder what they hoped for when they planned an operation to turn such a huge amount into fiat money. It was an absolutely idiotic act that did not have a single logical explanation!
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