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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 05, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
#321
Quote from: romero121 on August 05, 2022, 02:57:44 AM
Quote from: paxmao on August 05, 2022, 12:08:39 AM
No site is ever free of vulnerabilities. If you think of it, all sites are not built from scratch, they use an OS, drivers, layers of software and millions if not billions of lines of code. And there is nothing there preventing someone from installing a backdoor or creating involuntarily a vulnerability that could potentially end with the system being attacked.
Vulnerabilities are found with each and everything connected with the internet. This is the reason why we can see the security system developers are prioritised than the developer. The developer does it according to the user needs, but the security system developers does it from the user end as well as from the provider side. Compared to the past days of easy breach, now things are highly secure and dedicated teams are assigned with specific tasks.
Security does really matter or should really be put up the emphasis since considering that these type of businesses does involved huge chunks of money or simply talking about millions then it would really
be just common sense that they should allocate sufficient budget for tightening the security because that would be a total disaster when someone do able to have those exploits and made out
big damage in overall funding of the said platform.We've seen big incidents in related to this back in the past or even into other projects as well not only limited to gambling platforms
but also in blockchain projects as well.Everything could really be exploited as long it do really connects out on net or simply there's nothing on this world which cant be hacked.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 05, 2022, 11:23:34 PM
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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 05, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long.
In some rare cases, slow transactions may be caused by a bug in the casino's payment system (ex. inaccurate fee estimator) but in most cases this happens simply because the casino has bad services. It's not really a vulnerability which may be exploited to compromise the security of the platform (ie.steal customers' funds and/or data).
Quote from: stomachgrowls on August 05, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
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Despite its importance, most casinos - especially New ones- do not invest too much (if ever) in the security of their platforms. They do not conduct security audits or have any bug bounty programs. This is why we see new casinos get hacked all the time.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 17, 2022, 03:12:15 AM
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Quote from: khaled0111 on August 05, 2022, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: gunhell16 on August 05, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long.
In some rare cases, slow transactions may be caused by a bug in the casino's payment system (ex. inaccurate fee estimator) but in most cases this happens simply because the casino has bad services. It's not really a vulnerability which may be exploited to compromise the security of the platform (ie.steal customers' funds and/or data).
Quote from: stomachgrowls on August 05, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
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Despite its importance, most casinos - especially New ones- do not invest too much (if ever) in the security of their platforms. They do not conduct security audits or have any bug bounty programs. This is why we see new casinos get hacked all the time.
Yes, sometimes very slow transactions can fill the player with some anxiety that they do not like, and this is normal, it is money that is handled, even when it is quite a lot of money that they want to withdraw, and it is as you say, to Sometimes it is due to a small bug that can occur within the platform, which is why casinos have now treated this issue with great subtlety, and one of the reasons why casinos have put support 24 hours a day is because of that reason.
And one of the big mistakes of the new casinos is that of not investing in security, so when they come out and offer some kind of bonus, it is when they exploit that vulnerability, causing them to go bankrupt on occasion.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 17, 2022, 07:08:35 AM
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Quote from: khaled0111 on August 05, 2022, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: gunhell16 on August 05, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long.
In some rare cases, slow transactions may be caused by a bug in the casino's payment system (ex. inaccurate fee estimator) but in most cases this happens simply because the casino has bad services. It's not really a vulnerability which may be exploited to compromise the security of the platform (ie.steal customers' funds and/or data).
Yes, that's true because if some users have suggested speeding up slow transactions but the casino doesn't pay attention to it, it could be a sign that the casino's services have not been able to satisfy its users.
It will also be a sign for users to move to another casino because they don't want to get their money for a long time.
If we talk about the vulnerabilities of a website, it's more about the bugs on the website.
Many things will be related to the website, such as fixing the code with errors.
The team must fix the vulnerabilities immediately before things go wrong, causing the casino to suffer huge losses.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 17, 2022, 11:50:09 PM
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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 05, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
Perhaps one of Gambling's vulnerabilities is its security service to its client users, and also the lack of transparency sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long. These are the experiences that I have seen in other gambling platforms that I entered to gamble in the world of crypto gambling.
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Yes, that's because no security is really 100% safe even though they have done various ways to protect their sites from attacks or hacks.
But at the very least, the casino has tried its best to maintain and protect its site.
And if there are still external attacks or hacks on their site, the security team must try to defend it so that their site doesn't leak.
Most importantly, the casino can take care of its customer data and don't put them all on the same server.
There is truth in what you said, Sir. And it's also sad to think that no one makes perfect gambling platforms that they can do 100% security of their user's clients when gamblers play gambling games. Also, sometimes, if you think about it and look at it, it seems like there is an inside job that is happening as if there is an accomplice in the team as to why there are these kinds of problems or issues here.
It is a problem at all levels in all platforms. The new coding environments are much more focused on allowing the developers to create flows and conditions rather than on creating specific lines of code and the issue with it is that many lines are generated without direct human interaction. We are talking huge chunks of code that will never be beta tested and may carry backdoors and bugs.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
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The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
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Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
Perhaps that was in it's infancy, wherein casino's are very vulnerable and maybe they don't have cold wallet and everything is in they hot wallet that's why hackers can get all their money. But security has involved already, and so far vulnerabilities are like people abusing the casino or even some exploits. But it can be quickly patch by the casino if they found out and that individual ban from them. Sometimes though, those exploits turns into a bug bounty for the gamblers.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 21, 2022, 10:34:53 AM
#328
Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
It will always be 100% the liability of the casino if there are some hacks or some theft on the balances of the casino. Sometimes though, if there are irregularities on the account activity, they can use that as a defense to not shoulder the lost funds of the player. But oftentimes, it is the casino that is liable for these kinds of things.
Quote from: Baofeng on August 21, 2022, 06:53:46 AM
Perhaps that was in it's infancy, wherein casino's are very vulnerable and maybe they don't have cold wallet and everything is in they hot wallet that's why hackers can get all their money. But security has involved already, and so far vulnerabilities are like people abusing the casino or even some exploits. But it can be quickly patch by the casino if they found out and that individual ban from them. Sometimes though, those exploits turns into a bug bounty for the gamblers.
This should never be an excuse that the casino should put put if they're hacked. Their top priority should be security then the quality of their games. I wouldn't trust a platform that states that their security is on its 'infancy' as that is just taking the easy way out on taking responsibility of the matter.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 21, 2022, 11:46:48 AM
#329
Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
I think every casino will try to keep the casino safe and can address any possible vulnerabilities by updating the security on their site. The casino must have a security team that will keep a good eye on the site and can prevent theft so that users on the site can still feel safe. With cases happening in other casinos, it will pay more attention to other casinos so that it doesn't happen in theirs. But there really isn't a completely secure system in the world because there are bound to be attacked on every type of business, not just the casinos.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 21, 2022, 12:34:42 PM
#330
Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
Players don't have to pay for the security breaches of the casinos they play, but they eventually do. It is the same case with exchanges: first, the company goes bankrupt, and then creditors are paid depending on how well they were prioritised. When the money runs out, it's over for the subsequent creditors. Another alternative is to distribute the remaining funds among all creditors, so all players pay for said failure.
Not to talk about the process, that can take years.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 21, 2022, 01:12:26 PM
#331
Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
It is the duty of the gambling sites to develop sites that are bug free and there are no vulnerabilities. People deposit their hard earned money on the gambling site and if the gambling site is not secured then there are a lot of chances that people lose their money and are at the risk of hackers.
With the advancement of technology, this risk is minimized but still, the hackers and the intruders are active exploits any loop hole in the system.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 22, 2022, 06:56:04 PM
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We made fast scans and information gathering on random sites. The most common issue is real server IP address leak. Cloudflare bypass itself is not a vulnerability, but attacker have more opportunity. Can abuse IP, brute forcing logins, etc...
Outdated applications, respositories is the other hand.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 22, 2022, 07:28:17 PM
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The worst vulnerability that I'm aware of was with directbet.eu during the block wars of 2017 (I believe). It was an on-chain gambling platform where you placed bets and then sent funds in to an address instead of depositing on a platform. I think this was the best way to do gambling with crypto and when users began using high fee periods to double spend losing bets it caused the site to shut down. No attempt at launching a replacement on-chain gambling platform has been made since that I'm aware of, which was a big step back for online gambling with crypto.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 22, 2022, 08:30:44 PM
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Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
But I think all kinds of vulnerabilities have one main motive and that is to rob the website. Or I don't know, maybe some only want's to break the other website because they think it's a threat to their business. Until now there are still vulnerabilities that happen.
No casinos are safe with that even the biggest and popular ones which already has a better security because sometimes hackers are just more smarter than them, so don't blame all the casinos thinking it was their failure. Normal players who didn't do anything shady are not going to pay anything obviously but only those who are going to pay are the ones who committed the crime.
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August 22, 2022, 11:54:47 PM
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Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
Not sure I understood what you meant to say in the first sentence but a vulnerability is a weakness in the security of the platform which, when exploited, gives the attacker access to resources he is not supposed to have access to. Depending on the severity of the vulnerability, the attacker may get access to users data, hot wallets or even get root privileges.
I agree with you that the security of the casino is the responsibility of the casino's owners and they are accountable for any losses their customers may suffer if their security get breached. But we learned from past incidences that when an online service get hacked, they will just shut down their doors and no victims were compensated.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 23, 2022, 06:30:33 AM
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Quote from: virasog on August 21, 2022, 01:12:26 PM
Quote from: danadc on August 21, 2022, 01:26:56 AM
The greatest vulnerability of the past is that they enter a casino and steal all the funds and then the casino has the capacity to respond to each of the players, all the casinos are in danger of that, but if a very large robbery occurs What casinos can be here to respond to that? It is known that a vulnerability is a failure of a casino, but players do not have to pay for that failure or bug.
It is the duty of the gambling sites to develop sites that are bug free and there are no vulnerabilities. People deposit their hard earned money on the gambling site and if the gambling site is not secured then there are a lot of chances that people lose their money and are at the risk of hackers.
With the advancement of technology, this risk is minimized but still, the hackers and the intruders are active exploits any loop hole in the system.
It is true that casinos have the responsibility to protect our coins to the best of their ability, however it is also important to notice that since one of the basic premises of this market is also to become our own banks we cannot relinquish the whole responsibility to the casino, after all while sometime casinos are hacked and this is how criminals get to our coins, it is way more common that hackers somehow get that information from us and then they get whatever coins we had in our different wallets, exchange accounts and casinos, so it is important to also do our best to protect our coins even when we deposit our money at a casino.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 23, 2022, 07:32:12 AM
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Quote from: Desmong on August 22, 2022, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: OgNasty on August 22, 2022, 07:28:17 PM
The worst vulnerability that I'm aware of was with directbet.eu during the block wars of 2017 (I believe). It was an on-chain gambling platform where you placed bets and then sent funds in to an address instead of depositing on a platform. I think this was the best way to do gambling with crypto and when users began using high fee periods to double spend losing bets it caused the site to shut down. No attempt at launching a replacement on-chain gambling platform has been made since that I'm aware of, which was a big step back for online gambling with crypto.
There are many vulnerabilities in gambling so far and many of us that were a victim had learnt from the hard way of going for what has reputation and backups. I know I had used some of gambling sites that made me lost some funds because of the high profits I was making there not knowing that I was in the wrong gambling sites. When it crash many gamblers lost bigger funds that is even more than what I lost. Everything in gambling is risks.
What you mention is not a vulnerability in my opinion, because vulnerability is when there is a loophole that players or hackers can use to take advantage of the casino to their detriment. Your story is just that you chose the wrong casino so you can't get what you've won.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 23, 2022, 10:22:55 AM
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Quote from: Desmong on August 22, 2022, 08:24:28 PM
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I think you didn't get the meaning of vulnerabilities . The risk you are talking about and the reputation of the casinos are completely different things. Vulnerabilities are weak systems in a website that can be used by hackers to win slots or steal money from casinos.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 23, 2022, 01:19:03 PM
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Quote from: Desmong on August 22, 2022, 08:24:28 PM
There are many vulnerabilities in gambling so far and many of us that were a victim had learnt from the hard way of going for what has reputation and backups. I know I had used some of gambling sites that made me lost some funds because of the high profits I was making there not knowing that I was in the wrong gambling sites. When it crash many gamblers lost bigger funds that is even more than what I lost. Everything in gambling is risks.
Losing money in a casino is not a casino vulnerability but it is because of your lack of control that you experience losing money. And if you mean by crash here is the price of bitcoin dropping sharply, that's not a vulnerability either but it's because of market movements that make the price go up and down.
But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability. And it needs the attention of the casino team to fix the system and refund members' funds immediately. Otherwise, they will lose the reputation and trust of their members.
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Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past
August 23, 2022, 08:11:46 PM
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Quote from: |MINER| on August 23, 2022, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: Desmong on August 22, 2022, 08:24:28 PM
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I think you didn't get the meaning of vulnerabilities . The risk you are talking about and the reputation of the casinos are completely different things. Vulnerabilities are weak systems in a website that can be used by hackers to win slots or steal money from casinos.
This do really shows that there are some users who dont really have any idea on what they are talking or doesnt know the differences in between reputation and security system talks.
And as mentioned this is totally different if you do really make out some in-depth understanding but turns out that people arent really that having the time at least.
Vulnerability is always there and thats why companies or platforms do hire out those security enhancement kind of people on the site since this is a business
that do involves huge money then it would really be just common sense that they would be putting some emphasis.
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