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September 12, 2022, 09:53:06 PM
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Gambling is never been automatically means that it is not a healthy activity.It is actually not that bad as long you do have the full control of your self when it comes to your finances.
The problem is that it's not easy to control and it doesn't cover up the fact that the average gambler ends up getting into trouble when they lose control of themselves and their finances. You might say it's fine as long as gambling isn't an excuse to make money, but for other people it will be a problem when they focus on earning money from gambling.

I have a friend who continues to gamble every day until $2000 no longer means much to him. At least he doesn't earn above $200 per month as a salary in real work, but when he wins $2K it seems like nothing and not make it stop.

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September 12, 2022, 11:50:11 PM
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Gambling is never been automatically means that it is not a healthy activity.It is actually not that bad as long you do have the full control of your self when it comes to your finances.
The problem is that it's not easy to control and it doesn't cover up the fact that the average gambler ends up getting into trouble when they lose control of themselves and their finances.
Gambling is one of the most addictive things there is. It has a promising end based on agreement that is binding if it proves through that you actually won. When you lost, the greement still gets to prove true and binds you to your predictions.

As a result of the huge promises it offers over a simple stake in odds or multipliers, its easy to get greedy and eventually, lose money, want to recover it back and lose some more and then define a purpose far from your original intent. Creating a way for an addiction to set in.

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September 13, 2022, 03:15:17 AM
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I am sure every trusted casino will update its services and platforms to keep its sites safe and comfortable for its customers. But if any casino doesn't do service and platform updates, we should be careful and maybe moving to another casino would be better to avoid any problems in the future.

I think some gamblers put their money in the casino and some leave it like that so they can start playing right away if they return to the casino. But of course, they must really choose a good, safe, trusted casino so that customers will not encounter any problems.
however in the past, on online casino platforms (not crypto casinos) the most common problem experienced by members was deposit and withdrawal issues. but now maybe more things make things easier. we've seen more casinos today—more places to play and have fun.

Gamblers who put their money in casinos for some time, I believe are just daily gamblers. they do activities at the casino every day. most likely already addicted to gambling.
Those not at the casino table every day will choose to withdraw their money. indeed every gambler has different habits.

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September 13, 2022, 11:39:05 AM
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I am sure every trusted casino will update its services and platforms to keep its sites safe and comfortable for its customers. But if any casino doesn't do service and platform updates, we should be careful and maybe moving to another casino would be better to avoid any problems in the future.

Lol you must be new to crypto casinos. They are actually so bad that it's a big surprise when some actually do well, take care of customers, and have a great service. On this forum we're lucky to have a lot to pick from, but that's because us gamblers use and rate them and if they start getting shady we are very fast to act on it.

Go to any crypto casino review site and see 100s of others not here, I am willing to bet many actually suck at withdrawal issues even if "trusted".

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September 13, 2022, 09:23:21 PM
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Probably true overall the state of website data handling has progressed some, even ten years ago can be considered an initial period for the monetization of the internet.   Before BTC we used to say advertising was the currency of the internet for allowing the propagation and success of sites via views.  It was a poor proxy but more secure then handling currency directly, websites had to mature before becoming more capable unfortunately there was loss while that occured.
We cant deny the fact that gambling is not healthy activity - no matter how. many forum and event we hold to talk about the posistve impact of gambling
But we cannot say that gambling is inherently an unhealthy activity either, people love to play games in order to entertain themselves or to even learn, so it is not surprising that for example the video game industry has been growing at such an accelerated pace and the same is true for gambling, the problem is that people are unable to control themselves when they do it and they give gambling a bad reputation which is undeserved in my opinion.
All I know is that gambling could be described as what it is by people personally. The question is are you gambling responsively or not? These question should be able to settle a lot of misunderstandings about gambling.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with gambling, it might be addictive too but the industry grew this much because people want to associate with something. You cannot be going to parties, or cinemas or watch football every day, some people do not even like some of the listed ones, gambling is their option. So, gambling will be surely ethical and healthy for the person that is not addicted to it but has it entertaining and keeps their company.
Exactly, we have the tendency of seeing things exclusively from our perspective, but even if we think that something is bad that doesn't mean that every single person thinks the same, and gambling is probably one of the industries that has the most mixed opinions, with some people thinking that it should be banned and that no one should ever gamble, while there are other people that do not really see anything wrong with gambling as long as people can gamble responsibly with their money.
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September 14, 2022, 03:24:41 PM
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I am sure every trusted casino will update its services and platforms to keep its sites safe and comfortable for its customers. But if any casino doesn't do service and platform updates, we should be careful and maybe moving to another casino would be better to avoid any problems in the future.

I think some gamblers put their money in the casino and some leave it like that so they can start playing right away if they return to the casino. But of course, they must really choose a good, safe, trusted casino so that customers will not encounter any problems.
however in the past, on online casino platforms (not crypto casinos) the most common problem experienced by members was deposit and withdrawal issues. but now maybe more things make things easier. we've seen more casinos today—more places to play and have fun.

Gamblers who put their money in casinos for some time, I believe are just daily gamblers. they do activities at the casino every day. most likely already addicted to gambling.
Those not at the casino table every day will choose to withdraw their money. indeed every gambler has different habits.

The deposit issue is somewhat easier to clarify, usually there isn't much of a problem, the problem arises when some casinos begin to leave the problem of withdrawals that don't process them, this causes despair and inconvenience in the players, I have I saw how some casinos are exposed and have been put as scams when they do this type of behavior.

I don't know if things like this have happened in the past, maybe the lack of development is one thing, but what is handled now in many bookmakers that have just come out is that we have to be careful with deposits, because we have no idea who is after these casinos.

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September 14, 2022, 04:14:38 PM
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All I know is that gambling could be described as what it is by people personally. The question is are you gambling responsively or not? These question should be able to settle a lot of misunderstandings about gambling.

If bet houses and casinos can get licences, then it must have been reason through and fro before any government could grant that kind of wish. It is your responsibility to gamble the way you like as long as you are above 18+, you have no problem with anyone or to be judged the way you gamble.

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In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with gambling, it might be addictive too but the industry grew this much because people want to associate with something. You cannot be going to parties, or cinemas or watch football every day, some people do not even like some of the listed ones, gambling is their option. So, gambling will be surely ethical and healthy for the person that is not addicted to it but has it entertaining and keeps their company.

You see mate, everything in life has an optimum level, people can go over length just to prove something. Gambling is a probability and risk that involves money but the pathetic ones will always go overboard and this thing doesnt just don't happen in gambling alone, it happens in other parts of life, even the crypto we have today, there are thousands of investors who have enjoyed big profits from the bull run and there are others who have lost heavily and still called crypto scam investments, it is their mistake and should deal with it for failing to buy at the bottom.

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September 15, 2022, 06:42:33 AM
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Probably true overall the state of website data handling has progressed some, even ten years ago can be considered an initial period for the monetization of the internet.   Before BTC we used to say advertising was the currency of the internet for allowing the propagation and success of sites via views.  It was a poor proxy but more secure then handling currency directly, websites had to mature before becoming more capable unfortunately there was loss while that occured.
We cant deny the fact that gambling is not healthy activity - no matter how. many forum and event we hold to talk about the posistve impact of gambling
But we cannot say that gambling is inherently an unhealthy activity either, people love to play games in order to entertain themselves or to even learn, so it is not surprising that for example the video game industry has been growing at such an accelerated pace and the same is true for gambling, the problem is that people are unable to control themselves when they do it and they give gambling a bad reputation which is undeserved in my opinion.
With the rapid growth of the gambling industry, the security factor on casino sites is a special concern for casino owners to continue monitoring their sites from attacks or hackers. They will continue to strive to improve the security standards on their site and provide a sense of security to their users. This is also done by other business owners who have websites too so that no problems occur on their sites.
usually business owners or gambling site owners will continue to develop the site's platform in order to increase the security of the company.
so all gamblers who are in the gambling will no longer doubt the security of the gambling platform.
and i myself sometimes have doubts about some gambling sites that have no purpose to develop these sites to increase the safety and comfort of the gamblers who are in them.

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usually business owners or gambling site owners will continue to develop the site's platform in order to increase the security of the company.
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and i myself sometimes have doubts about some gambling sites that have no purpose to develop these sites to increase the safety and comfort of the gamblers who are in them.
Then such sites are to be beware of, yet I doubt if this is particularly true. Many gambling sites might be nonchalant truly, yet many sites are working underground but might seem not so to everyone. You might not know because it is not about the appearance that you will recognise the updates and security features put in place by the owner of the sites. The internet is susceptible to attacks at any time, and if anyone has any reason to believe security is lacking with their betting companies, he/she can switch to another.

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September 15, 2022, 08:46:36 AM
 #430

usually business owners or gambling site owners will continue to develop the site's platform in order to increase the security of the company.
so all gamblers who are in the gambling will no longer doubt the security of the gambling platform.
and i myself sometimes have doubts about some gambling sites that have no purpose to develop these sites to increase the safety and comfort of the gamblers who are in them.
Then such sites are to be beware of, yet I doubt if this is particularly true. Many gambling sites might be nonchalant truly, yet many sites are working underground but might seem not so to everyone. You might not know because it is not about the appearance that you will recognise the updates and security features put in place by the owner of the sites. The internet is susceptible to attacks at any time, and if anyone has any reason to believe security is lacking with their betting companies, he/she can switch to another.

I have this assurance that no one is tied to a particular gambling site provided that you're not receiving upto expectation from them in their services, there are a large number of casinos that want to come out shinning and have been putting in consideration many implementation to help them able to achieve that, that's why some casinos only bears name and past reputation but they don't seat to come up with something new for it gamblers, even if at least just a change on the theme and home display of the casino website goes along way to entice the gambler and to make them believe they are working something new and more are still coming.



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September 15, 2022, 11:30:11 PM
 #431

usually business owners or gambling site owners will continue to develop the site's platform in order to increase the security of the company.
so all gamblers who are in the gambling will no longer doubt the security of the gambling platform.
and i myself sometimes have doubts about some gambling sites that have no purpose to develop these sites to increase the safety and comfort of the gamblers who are in them.
Then such sites are to be beware of, yet I doubt if this is particularly true. Many gambling sites might be nonchalant truly, yet many sites are working underground but might seem not so to everyone. You might not know because it is not about the appearance that you will recognise the updates and security features put in place by the owner of the sites. The internet is susceptible to attacks at any time, and if anyone has any reason to believe security is lacking with their betting companies, he/she can switch to another.

I have this assurance that no one is tied to a particular gambling site provided that you're not receiving upto expectation from them in their services, there are a large number of casinos that want to come out shinning and have been putting in consideration many implementation to help them able to achieve that, that's why some casinos only bears name and past reputation but they don't seat to come up with something new for it gamblers, even if at least just a change on the theme and home display of the casino website goes along way to entice the gambler and to make them believe they are working something new and more are still coming.

But that continuous movement creates a continuous need of re-programming and re-desing. Doing a proper audit on the code is critical and that is also a quite expensive undertaking for the company. In my view, innovation introduction has to be carefully planned to avoid introducing bugs or even maliciously prepared code inserted in the platform.

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September 16, 2022, 08:32:28 AM
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however in the past, on online casino platforms (not crypto casinos) the most common problem experienced by members was deposit and withdrawal issues. but now maybe more things make things easier. we've seen more casinos today—more places to play and have fun.

Gamblers who put their money in casinos for some time, I believe are just daily gamblers. they do activities at the casino every day. most likely already addicted to gambling.
Those not at the casino table every day will choose to withdraw their money. indeed every gambler has different habits.
I guess it not only happened in the past but nowadays, deposit and withdrawal issues are still the most common problem in casinos. From gamblers suspected of cheating in casinos to gamblers who use their money from illegal activities, casinos have started implementing KYC for their members. But some casinos don't implement KYC directly in the beginning but casinos will apply it to their members who are suspected of doing something that could violate their rules.

I still often put my money in the casino so I can start playing the next day and that doesn't mean I'm a daily gambler because I also factor in transaction fees. I don't want to send money multiple times because that could also cause me to spend money on transaction fees. Usually, I deposit some money and use only a small amount for gambling; if I play, it won't take long.

Lol you must be new to crypto casinos. They are actually so bad that it's a big surprise when some actually do well, take care of customers, and have a great service. On this forum we're lucky to have a lot to pick from, but that's because us gamblers use and rate them and if they start getting shady we are very fast to act on it.

Go to any crypto casino review site and see 100s of others not here, I am willing to bet many actually suck at withdrawal issues even if "trusted".
Not really. I've known crypto casinos for a long time but maybe I don't gamble as much as you do Grin

I don't think trusted casinos are too bad at giving big surprises because most of them are satisfied with the surprises. And if many customers are satisfied, the casino already has a place in the hearts of gamblers. This will give benefit the casino so that it can become big and continue to provide satisfactory service to its customers.

This forum is a reference for inexperienced crypto gambling players because they can ask questions, learn, or even complain.

I don't know about withdrawal problems because so far, I haven't had any problems with withdrawals and I can withdraw funds from the casino whenever I want Grin

usually business owners or gambling site owners will continue to develop the site's platform in order to increase the security of the company.
so all gamblers who are in the gambling will no longer doubt the security of the gambling platform.
and i myself sometimes have doubts about some gambling sites that have no purpose to develop these sites to increase the safety and comfort of the gamblers who are in them.
Of course, gambling site owners must develop their platforms to maintain their reputation and the security of their place of business. The wise gambler knows how to choose a trusted casino and does not risk playing in a casino if the casino looks suspicious. Usually, if I have doubts about a gambling site, I will not play there until there is clarification or explanation from the casino owner or his representative. Besides that, the casino must immediately resolve any problems that occur so that it will not make other gamblers hesitate.

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September 16, 2022, 11:04:22 AM
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Lol you must be new to crypto casinos. They are actually so bad that it's a big surprise when some actually do well, take care of customers, and have a great service. On this forum we're lucky to have a lot to pick from, but that's because us gamblers use and rate them and if they start getting shady we are very fast to act on it.

Go to any crypto casino review site and see 100s of others not here, I am willing to bet many actually suck at withdrawal issues even if "trusted".
Not really. I've known crypto casinos for a long time but maybe I don't gamble as much as you do Grin

I don't think trusted casinos are too bad at giving big surprises because most of them are satisfied with the surprises. And if many customers are satisfied, the casino already has a place in the hearts of gamblers. This will give benefit the casino so that it can become big and continue to provide satisfactory service to its customers.

This forum is a reference for inexperienced crypto gambling players because they can ask questions, learn, or even complain.

I don't know about withdrawal problems because so far, I haven't had any problems with withdrawals and I can withdraw funds from the casino whenever I want Grin

You talk about casinos having a place in the hearts of gamblers and I agree, but this only happens for those who have a presence right here in this forum.

And this is the small "problem" I feel with us lucky forum users, especially those who've been around for years. We all have our favorite casinos and bookies here, we're close to the users and each other and even in some cases the owners, so there's a big trust network, and they take care of us, and we take care of each other by ensuring the casinos do their responsibility.

But as I said out there, try going to a casino review site and see 100s of other crypto casinos, who don't have ANN threads on this forum. Try gambling there as much as we do here and then request withdrawals. Check out AskGamblers also and see all their problems there Wink

We don't realize how lucky we are here on this forum.

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There are many vulnerabilities in gambling so far and many of us that were a victim had learnt from the hard way of going for what has reputation and backups. I know I had used some of gambling sites that made me lost some funds because of the high profits I was making there not knowing that I was in the wrong gambling sites. When it crash many gamblers lost bigger funds that is even more than what I lost. Everything in gambling is risks.
Losing money in a casino is not a casino vulnerability but it is because of your lack of control that you experience losing money. And if you mean by crash here is the price of bitcoin dropping sharply, that's not a vulnerability either but it's because of market movements that make the price go up and down.

But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability. And it needs the attention of the casino team to fix the system and refund members' funds immediately. Otherwise, they will lose the reputation and trust of their members.

-   What else can I say about what you mentioned, almost everything has a point and what you said is correct. Maybe the only thing I can say about the vulnerability in a gambling platform is that if the system it has is not good, such as not enjoying the issues reported by their users using their platform, then the interface of the gambling platform and games and so on are not fixed yet. And suddenly the accounts of users who will withdraw a large amount due to winnings are blocked, and the management of the Gambling website itself will make a way so that their users cannot withdraw a large amount, even though the complainant has valid proof.

Something like this is probably one of the things that undermine the image of a gambling platform in the crypto space.

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September 16, 2022, 02:48:36 PM
 #435

usually business owners or gambling site owners will continue to develop the site's platform in order to increase the security of the company.
so all gamblers who are in the gambling will no longer doubt the security of the gambling platform.
and i myself sometimes have doubts about some gambling sites that have no purpose to develop these sites to increase the safety and comfort of the gamblers who are in them.
Then such sites are to be beware of, yet I doubt if this is particularly true. Many gambling sites might be nonchalant truly, yet many sites are working underground but might seem not so to everyone. You might not know because it is not about the appearance that you will recognise the updates and security features put in place by the owner of the sites. The internet is susceptible to attacks at any time, and if anyone has any reason to believe security is lacking with their betting companies, he/she can switch to another.

I have this assurance that no one is tied to a particular gambling site provided that you're not receiving upto expectation from them in their services, there are a large number of casinos that want to come out shinning and have been putting in consideration many implementation to help them able to achieve that, that's why some casinos only bears name and past reputation but they don't seat to come up with something new for it gamblers, even if at least just a change on the theme and home display of the casino website goes along way to entice the gambler and to make them believe they are working something new and more are still coming.

But that continuous movement creates a continuous need of re-programming and re-desing. Doing a proper audit on the code is critical and that is also a quite expensive undertaking for the company. In my view, innovation introduction has to be carefully planned to avoid introducing bugs or even maliciously prepared code inserted in the platform.

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so



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September 16, 2022, 02:59:02 PM
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If bet houses and casinos can get licences, then it must have been reason through and fro before any government could grant that kind of wish. It is your responsibility to gamble the way you like as long as you are above 18+, you have no problem with anyone or to be judged the way you gamble.

These days it's a must to have a casino license if you own a casino, most of the stuff in crypto and blockchain is getting centralized continuously, and simultaneously it's just a matter of time when the government have their own blockchain, I've heard something about Solana that it's a centralized crypto I'm not sure if that's true but I'm going to do quick google search after posting this reply.

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You see mate, everything in life has an optimum level, people can go over length just to prove something. Gambling is a probability and risk that involves money but the pathetic ones will always go overboard and this thing doesnt just don't happen in gambling alone, it happens in other parts of life, even the crypto we have today, there are thousands of investors who have enjoyed big profits from the bull run and there are others who have lost heavily and still called crypto scam investments, it is their mistake and should deal with it for failing to buy at the bottom.

It's hard for me to comprehend everything you wrote in this this reply but if I'm getting it correctly then you're talking about gambling being a risky business.
To which i'd deny. Gambling business is currently ruled by top companies and they're  printing the money because it's nearly impossible to win against the casino in long run, I mean in long run it's possible to be lucky here and there but it's quite hard tbh.
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September 16, 2022, 04:14:17 PM
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These days it's a must to have a casino license if you own a casino, most of the stuff in crypto and blockchain is getting centralized continuously, and simultaneously it's just a matter of time when the government have their own blockchain, I've heard something about Solana that it's a centralized crypto I'm not sure if that's true but I'm going to do quick google search after posting this reply.

I'm not sure if casinos really need a license, we can see some casinos operating since some years ago without one and they still alive, a couple of examples are freebitco(dot)in and Just-Dice.

And the fun part is that people trust more on a provably fair site, than a site who don't allow users to verify their rolls but they have a license.

The problem to play in a casino without a license is that we can't complain if something goes wrong with it.

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September 16, 2022, 06:53:30 PM
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There are many vulnerabilities in gambling so far and many of us that were a victim had learnt from the hard way of going for what has reputation and backups. I know I had used some of gambling sites that made me lost some funds because of the high profits I was making there not knowing that I was in the wrong gambling sites. When it crash many gamblers lost bigger funds that is even more than what I lost. Everything in gambling is risks.
Losing money in a casino is not a casino vulnerability but it is because of your lack of control that you experience losing money. And if you mean by crash here is the price of bitcoin dropping sharply, that's not a vulnerability either but it's because of market movements that make the price go up and down.

But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability. And it needs the attention of the casino team to fix the system and refund members' funds immediately. Otherwise, they will lose the reputation and trust of their members.

-   What else can I say about what you mentioned, almost everything has a point and what you said is correct. Maybe the only thing I can say about the vulnerability in a gambling platform is that if the system it has is not good, such as not enjoying the issues reported by their users using their platform, then the interface of the gambling platform and games and so on are not fixed yet. And suddenly the accounts of users who will withdraw a large amount due to winnings are blocked, and the management of the Gambling website itself will make a way so that their users cannot withdraw a large amount, even though the complainant has valid proof.

Something like this is probably one of the things that undermine the image of a gambling platform in the crypto space.
If the system owned by the casino is not good, the casino will not be able to run for long because the casino will become a target so people can exploit the casino. Users will also definitely move to other casinos without wanting to return to that casino.

Most of the cases we often encounter are problems with withdrawing funds after playing gambling, whether it is withdrawing winnings or withdrawing because they want to move the funds to another wallet. But it could also be because of the casino's suspicion that one customer was proven to have cheated, so the casino blocked their account or delayed withdrawing their money. If that's the case, it's not because of vulnerability but because there are other factors that we may not understand the real problem.

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September 16, 2022, 09:06:06 PM
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You talk about casinos having a place in the hearts of gamblers and I agree, but this only happens for those who have a presence right here in this forum.

And this is the small "problem" I feel with us lucky forum users, especially those who've been around for years. We all have our favorite casinos and bookies here, we're close to the users and each other and even in some cases the owners, so there's a big trust network, and they take care of us, and we take care of each other by ensuring the casinos do their responsibility.

But as I said out there, try going to a casino review site and see 100s of other crypto casinos, who don't have ANN threads on this forum. Try gambling there as much as we do here and then request withdrawals. Check out AskGamblers also and see all their problems there Wink

We don't realize how lucky we are here on this forum.
I wouldn't call it luck, the community built those casinos and in return those casinos also built the community we’ve in the forum, and the most important part is that this is not an exclusive community, anyone can join and the only thing they need to do is to come to the forum and become active, however the forum format is now not very liked by the people, which prefer a more instant form of communication, and just for that small detail they’re willing to miss the great advantages of belonging to this community.
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September 16, 2022, 09:55:22 PM
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These days it's a must to have a casino license if you own a casino, most of the stuff in crypto and blockchain is getting centralized continuously, and simultaneously it's just a matter of time when the government have their own blockchain, I've heard something about Solana that it's a centralized crypto I'm not sure if that's true but I'm going to do quick google search after posting this reply.

I'm not sure if casinos really need a license, we can see some casinos operating since some years ago without one and they still alive, a couple of examples are freebitco(dot)in and Just-Dice.

And the fun part is that people trust more on a provably fair site, than a site who don't allow users to verify their rolls but they have a license.

The problem to play in a casino without a license is that we can't complain if something goes wrong with it.
There's always cons always attached on that which means that if ever there is some scamming incident then there's no way that we could really able to retrieve our funds since they arent regulated which is the only
problem i do saw into those platforms that doesnt have a license.Its true that as long they do able to make out that kind of transparency or being fair then its no surprise that the community will really be having that
kind of trust and confidence on dealing with it despite on having no license at all.People should really be removing into their minds that having licenses isnt everything or does ensure fairness or credibility.
Although it turns out to be that a standard thing on having one.

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