[Ban Request] 1xbit signature spammer. Do you agree?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I don't think theymos or moderators would just jumped to conclusions without having any valid evidence therefore if we want to have a case then we should show stats of good reports and if the numbers are outrageous then the moderators will step in. The judgement here should be based on the spam generated and not because of the reputation of 1xbit, the forum official doesn't have to come into that or they'll be regulating signature campaign but that's not the ethics of the forum.

When the yobit spams became too much, their ads was restricted from the forum and some temporary bans was issued, same can be applied to the spammers. They can be sorted out, a comprehensive list can be published because I believe there has to be some Okay posters on their. @Ratimov you gave enough experience here with spammers, if you can get enough offenders from the campaign, it might help validate this thread.

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[Jawhead999]

As much as I dislike 1xbit, but I disagree if the ban request is just only for 1xbit, not entirely all campaigns because I've seen many spammer especially in Altcoin section. I wonder does this guidelines still work until now? I think we need a new rule like "if you've 50 posts in 120 days got deleted by moderator, it will lead to ban offence" so this will force users to not create off topic or spam posts.

Campaign Participants:

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

The signature campaign only visible in this forum, I'd think almost users already know 1xbit's reputation since it;s well known scam casino. If we check most of accusations, the author is newbie or brand new created only to post accusations. IMO they got scammed not because they visit this forum, but they got scammed outside of this forum (even I don't have any proof with this)

[onecall123]

The signature campaign only visible in this forum, I'd think almost users already know 1xbit's reputation since it;s well known scam casino. If we check most of accusations, the author is newbie or brand new created only to post accusations. IMO they got scammed not because they visit this forum, but they got scammed outside of this forum (even I don't have any proof with this)

As a responsible person, you would never visit such a casino site through the forum after seeing several open scam accusations, however, they got ripped off outside of this forum. Eventually, the worst shitposters and the promoters of 1xbit signature campaign will be caught and kicked out.

We have several open scam accusations, what's new? 1xbit casino has long been accused of scamming. It serves its purpose quite well to warn us that dealing with the casino site 1xBit can be risky. There are many red flags raised by those posters based on the many allegations made against them. Several scam allegations remain unresolved against them. We can point out stuff like this, but it's up to the moderators whether or not they change it.

[NeuroticFish]

we have our own managers that check the posts and deal with the participants.

Due to the fact anybody joining to your campaign gets negative tag, it's pretty clear that you cannot attract quality members. While maybe some can easily make 30 quality posts in a day, others may not manage to make even 5 without spamming. So the limits alone, while they can help, they're not necessary useful (because of the quality of members). I will not even go deeper in discussions about the possibility of same person having multiple accounts there.

Also due to the fact reputable members tell that they've had to report huge number of posts for spam means that the managers you have don't do such a good job.

[suchmoon]

3. We also disregard the participant's spam posts.

No, you don't. Hundreds of spam posts were paid and are still being paid when mods can't delete them quickly enough.

We have a contest going on

And there you have it, peddling your shit even in Meta.

[dkbit98]

We don't think comparing our campaigns with yobit is a good judgment.

You have connection with Crex24 exchange and 1xbet so comparison with yobit is not very different.
We also know that 1xbit is mostly hiring spammers who previously promoted other scam projects, and most of them have negative feedback on their profiles.

If I was a moderator I would not ban any member who is wearing 1xbit signature, but I would consider banning their signatures and not allowing them to wear anything.
This could first be temporary signature ban of several months and if it repeats again it could move to permanent.

[Maestro75]

I agree. Kick those spammers outta here. Their posts are constantly reported with accurancy.

The only way to kick them out will be to ban any account that opens and runs a signature campaign in that name. But I do not see the forum taking that up and make it happen. By the time there is no more 1xbit campaign to promote, all the users who got recruited into their campaign will have no more spam posts to make. They will go back to be inactive. And that solves this problem.

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I forgot to add that not all posts from those who are in the 1xbit campaign are spam posts. We Also have nice posts too. May be moderators delete their posts because they think thy are promoting scam.

[decodx]

Why don't moderators at least sanction excessive bumping of their ANN thread? Members of the 1xbit campaign are paid to post, and some of them make dozens of posts per day to keep the 1xbit topic at the top of the gambling board. There must be a rule against that, right?

[VanityWallets2015]

This forum is starting to lose credibility. My posts were also suddenly deleted, while the quality was just good. What complete nonsense. The only reason my posts have been removed is because I'm participating in the 1xbit campaign. The mods of the forum are breaking their own rules!

[UserU]

This forum is starting to lose credibility. My posts were also suddenly deleted, while the quality was just good. What complete nonsense. The only reason my posts have been removed is because I'm participating in the 1xbit campaign. The mods of the forum are breaking their own rules!

Not just 1xBit participants, even nons which most of them are within the posting rules. I just had 10 posts removed today.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Use a computer or change your phone broswer to a computer version. It does not work on mobile version
Visit https://imgur.com

Just because of this reason (having to switch to desktop version on mobile phone as I often write forum posts using mobile phone) I prefer https://postimages.org/ where it works normally, without need to switch. Another one where you don't have to switch anything is https://imgbb.com/. For some reason majority of people still prefer imgur, don't know why really.

Imgur has some high quality images which imgbb somewhat falls short of.

And the latter tends to render them smaller after uploading them.

How is this even off-topic?

[LoyceV]

How is this even off-topic?

If I have to guess: OP's question was answered a month ago. Comparing image quality on third-party sites doesn't belong in Meta.

[Charles-Tim]

I don't think theymos or moderators would just jumped to conclusions without having any valid evidence therefore if we want to have a case then we should show stats of good reports and if the numbers are outrageous then the moderators will step in. The judgement here should be based on the spam generated and not because of the reputation of 1xbit, the forum official doesn't have to come into that or they'll be regulating signature campaign but that's not the ethics of the forum.

The painful aspect is that 1xbit itself can not be banned on this forum because scam and negative reputation are criteria that can be used to ban a site on this forum, I always think that negative trust given to the campaign participants is never enough, and if the campaign is not even existing, the negative tag wouldn't have been given to those members that were lured.

With what I have noticed, some accounts that were dormant before joined the campaign, reputed members which are good posters avoided the campaign, only accounts that are most likely having low quality posts and alts are the ones that joined the campaign. This forum does not against alts, but many alts joined even after negative trust were given to accounts participating in the campaign, I may be wrong that they are alts, just from what I am thinking about who can still join the campaign after seeing everyone that joined it with bundles of red tags.

Many of the posts were reported, mostly some were banned, some were given temporary ban and bundles of 1xbit spammers posts were deleted. That has been the reason some of them (low quality posters) have been frustrated to create threads about their deleted posts.

[UserU]

How is this even off-topic?

If I have to guess: OP's question was answered a month ago. Comparing image quality on third-party sites doesn't belong in Meta.

I didn't expect the rule to be so stringent though. After all, it happens ever now and then as conversations tend to slightly deviate from the OP when there are further questions to be asked.

As long as it doesn't involve necroposting or participating with the same replies, I feel that it should be permissible.

Otherwise every thread would be pretty boring with just a solid answer and other inputs get removed "just because the question has already been answered, period".

[rhomelmabini]

I agree but it should be taken into consideration on who are those users that may have the permaban tags. Been ignoring lot of them to be honest these recent days so that I may not see their posts at all. I think everyone who are allergic at their posts would do the same right now that most of them lurk here and haven't been banned yet may it temporary or permanent. It's easy to click the "ignore" button.

[_BlackStar]

It's easy to click the "ignore" button.

That's easy, but you shouldn't do it often enough when you come across spam. Just like finding the ignore button, the report to moderator button is also easy to find. I wouldn't ignore it as it's not a good choice when you care about forum rules about posting spam. Report the post if you believe it is spam.

[Pmalek]

As someone who is active in the gambling boards and have a few threads there that I maintain, I can safely say that the worst kind of posts I see are those made by 1xBit participants. It's not just the fact that some of them can't write a single grammatically correct sentence, but some posts literally make no sense. And 9 out of 10 times when I come across those, there is a 1xBit signature underneath. It's hard for me to say if all of them are serial spammers, but the majority is.   

[Coin_trader]

As someone who is active in the gambling boards and have a few threads there that I maintain, I can safely say that the worst kind of posts I see are those made by 1xBit participants. It's not just the fact that some of them can't write a single grammatically correct sentence, but some posts literally make no sense. And 9 out of 10 times when I come across those, there is a 1xBit signature underneath. It's hard for me to say if all of them are serial spammers, but the majority is.   

Most of them are just bought bought account, recently woke up then join straight on the campaign ignoring repercussion of there participation on promoting scam. I'm not surprise how poorly these guys constract a statement since they are newbie that bought account without knowledge in gambling. They are just forced to post on gambling board since its a requirements of 1xbit campaign.


I don't agree on banning them just by participating the campaign but I'm sure they will be ban for consistent low quality posting which we continuosly reporting to the mods. Let's just keep reporting and help moderators to clean the forum.

[rhomelmabini]

It's easy to click the "ignore" button.

That's easy, but you shouldn't do it often enough when you come across spam. Just like finding the ignore button, the report to moderator button is also easy to find. I wouldn't ignore it as it's not a good choice when you care about forum rules about posting spam. Report the post if you believe it is spam.

Well, I know that there's spam ongoing but what's the point if the mods deleted the spam but they can do it once again? And, we aren't talking here about 2-5 users who continue these spams, there are a lot of them. My point here isn't about deletion as it may a hassle for myself alone to report it, I do care about forum rules but if you're asking mods to purge them all at once since they do these countless spamming I think that's better rather than just delete them one by one.

I believe your point but my opinion is to just ignore them since you can't filter them all as spamming when there are rare posts who are still on topic. I'm not defending them but it's just my opinion to ignore them all.

[LTU_btc]

This forum is starting to lose credibility. My posts were also suddenly deleted, while the quality was just good. What complete nonsense. The only reason my posts have been removed is because I'm participating in the 1xbit campaign. The mods of the forum are breaking their own rules!

C'mon, can you show few examples of your deleted posts? I want to see your ''high quality'' posts because I don't believe that mods would delete posts just because you're in specific campaign. You just trying to look like a victim.

It's easy to click the "ignore" button.

It's easy to click ignore button, but it's not solution. If you see shity posts, better report it. And it doesn't matter whether it was made by 1xbit participant or someone else.

As someone who is active in the gambling boards and have a few threads there that I maintain, I can safely say that the worst kind of posts I see are those made by 1xBit participants. It's not just the fact that some of them can't write a single grammatically correct sentence, but some posts literally make no sense. And 9 out of 10 times when I come across those, there is a 1xBit signature underneath. It's hard for me to say if all of them are serial spammers, but the majority is.   

Agree about their posts in gambling board. Often it's visible that they simply have no idea what about they're talking and they post there to reach their post quota in gambling boards.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Yesterday I found irrefutable evidence of a violation of the rules of the forum. Ban evasion. I do not understand why, instead of banning the account muratsink , the moderators categorically do not want to do this. There have been many complaints that farmer accounts that advertise the 1xbit scam are spamming the forum. But as you can see, even direct evidence did not play any role.
The rule that if one account is banned, the rest that is associated with it and when providing evidence will also be banned, does not always work.
Please check, and if there is even one piece of evidence that this account does not belong to the farm that I showed, I will take back my words.
Therefore, what kind of prohibitions can we talk about here when the existing evidence does not work in the right direction. The question arises, maybe someone needs it?
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