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These are on their prime, one of the best fighters in this generation of boxing. I would go for Stevenson on this one, I remember his fight between Herring and he gave decent blows to him before racking up points before the referee stepped in. These two boxers deserve each other, the first one to beak his defense will surely be in advance position.
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Oscar Valdes is not a very eloquent person.
This Mexican boxer does not like to talk in vain, but he knows how to fight well. Silent boxers are the most dangerous boxers.
One of the best boxing trainers in the world (Eddie Reynoso) teaches Oscar Valdez how to counter Shakur Stevenson's boxing tricks. While Shakur boasts about his future victory, Oscar Valdez trains hard.
In my opinion, Oscar Valdez will easily beat Shakur Stevenson. Shakur is too frivolous about the upcoming fight.
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April 19, 2022, 01:34:39 PM |
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Oscar Valdes is not a very eloquent person.
This Mexican boxer does not like to talk in vain, but he knows how to fight well. Silent boxers are the most dangerous boxers.
One of the best boxing trainers in the world (Eddie Reynoso) teaches Oscar Valdez how to counter Shakur Stevenson's boxing tricks. While Shakur boasts about his future victory, Oscar Valdez trains hard.
In my opinion, Oscar Valdez will easily beat Shakur Stevenson. Shakur is too frivolous about the upcoming fight.
Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.
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April 19, 2022, 10:07:42 PM |
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Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.
But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.
Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.
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The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his jaw was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
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April 20, 2022, 10:01:24 AM |
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The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division. Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.
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April 20, 2022, 10:23:25 AM |
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The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division. Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win. Bookies could be wrong though, personally, I would still go on an exciting boxer, and I believe that Valdez is the exciting boxer to watch here, he is very aggressive and he really fight to give the fans a full entertainment, hopefully that will pressure Stevenson to go toe to toe with Valdez.
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April 20, 2022, 10:23:31 AM |
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division. Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win. Bookies could be wrong though, personally, I would still go on an exciting boxer, and I believe that Valdez is the exciting boxer to watch here, he is very aggressive and he really fight to give the fans a full entertainment, hopefully that will pressure Stevenson to go toe to toe with Valdez. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, the style of Valdez is exciting, a brawler unlike Stevenson who is more of a defensive specialist. So it's really surprises me as how a defensive fighter be the favorite. But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.
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April 21, 2022, 04:36:32 AM |
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But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.
You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over. Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
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Both fighters are battle-tested but I like Valdez aggressiveness and toughness I'm sure there will be thrash talks between the two, Valdez must win this fight convincingly to erase the Robson Conceição controversy and prove to the boxing fans that he is the real champion, there will be excitement in the build-up leading to this fight as both are champions. Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite
For the record, the controversy is that Valdez was caught with PEDs. True, this is hard for bettors to decide where to put our money. As you have said, both are battle tested and coming from a win. And this is not just another fight as this is unification and I'm glad that both of this fighters have agreed. I'm interested to see what will be the opening odds, as who will be the slight favorite. This fight will definitely put us into deep thinking as who deserves our bet because from their boxing records, both have their impressive odds and certainly hardest punchers in the ring. But i think i am more impressed with Oscar Valdez, not only because of his high experience in boxing, but also for his aggressive fighting style that made him the world's best active super featherweight way back 2021. Nevertheless, Stevenson also got his own skill in the ring with his own fast hand speed and knockout power, but i think Oscar Valdez will win over Stevenson this time, just my thought.
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April 22, 2022, 06:11:04 PM Last edit: April 22, 2022, 08:16:19 PM by goldkingcoiner |
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks. I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook. Stevenson is not a very smart man, perhaps too many blows to the head made him simple?
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks. I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook. It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks. I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook. It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though. Indeed trash talk seems like a PR marketing tactic which all fighters like to do before a fight. It does heat up the fans just before the fists start flying, maybe it even makes them cheer harder for their favorite fighter. But racist remarks might deeply hurt their fans and they might lose fans, even. Obviously not a smart move in this case.
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But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.
You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over. Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight. What I meant by smart gamblers is those who is always willing to bet on the favorites. So it's based on the odds itself because they think that the bookies will always be right. However, we want to get the best odds for us for every fight there is. There is this gamblers who want to bet on the underdogs on the otherside.
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks. I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook. It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though. I agree that it's just their way to market the fight and it's already natural to see/hear some trashtalks before the fight but if indeed Shakur have said those things then I think it's already out of the line if Valdez didn't trashtalk him back or at least make some retaliations. I hope Shakur is not full of words and he can make it happen because he would be embarrassed if it turns out to be opposite. Shakur may be the favorite to win the fight according to the sports bookies but this time, I'm going with the underdog which is Valdez.
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April 23, 2022, 04:15:03 PM |
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Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight! Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego. Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement. Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks. I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook. Stevenson is not a very smart man, perhaps too many blows to the head made him simple? He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight. Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.
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April 23, 2022, 04:37:12 PM |
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I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.
The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank. Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.
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April 23, 2022, 04:40:41 PM |
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He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.
I judge his attitude of confidence to have been willing to fight Valdez, so I don't think those words were meant to attack personally but we enjoyed it, because before the game starts there will be a lot of controversy news between the two, although one may be cold and choose to show in the punch in the boxing ring. Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.
Based on the top rank, Valdez seems to dominate because he has a record of 23 KO and Stevenson with a score of 9 KO, so that in every boxing match, the attitude of the potential winner will maintain his ego after winning a boxing match.
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