Is President Joe Biden Fair to Afghans?

[Zlantann]

After the fall of the Democratic Government in Afghanistan and the rise of the Taliban, the US froze the $7bn owned by the deposed government in the US Federal Reserved Bank.

After much pressure from International organizations and US allies for the fund to be released to a country that is facing multidimensional economic challenges, the US has finally agreed to release the fund.

But the pattern of the fund release is drawing a lot of argument and confusion. Since the US does not recognize the the new government, they have decided to do everything possible to keep it out of the hands of the Taliban.

President Joe Biden just signed an executive order to share the money into two halves. One part would go to a trust fund to cater for humanitarian assistance in Afghanistan. While the other part would be used to compensate the families of the September 11 terrorist attack victims.

Do you think this plan is fair to the people of Afghanistan?

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[Gyfts]

The US doesn't have to recognize the Taliban as the official new government, they weren't democratically elected so the funds still belong to the previous Afghanistan government. Seeing as they're no longer active, that means the funds are forfeited. It's not fair, but welcome to currency centralization. If the Afghanistan people were concerned about money mismanagement, they shouldn't have allocated 7 billion USD to a government that has a tough time managing their own economy and maybe owned a bit of crypto themselves.

[Quickseller]

The US government should not release the money to the Taliban. If they did, the money would not go to the Afghans, it would further fund terrorism and mid-evil behavior that the Taliban engages in.

[paxmao]

International politics are rarely about fairness and good intentions. Even if many western countries argue about human rights abuse and the dire situation of the women in Afghanistan - basically being treated as cattle, but with less rights, the fact is that US government cares fundamentally about being re-elected. One way of making sure you are not re-elected is handing money to the Talibans  and then having them use it to commit terrorist attacks in your territory.

US will return the money not on fairness or legal arguments, but under the certainty that it won't be used to threaten them.

[Mometaskers]

Is all that money owned by the former Afghan government? I think other governments should at least have to option to take back the money they have donated to the country since they donated it to the democratic government, not the Taliban.

As for the rest of the money, I'm having reservations about handing it over to the Taliban. First, they're not the one who earned it, it was the government they deposed. Second, who knows what they'll end up doing with it. They could just use it fund further military activities. Regardless, none of that is likely to end up in the hands of the Afghan people.

The US doesn't have to recognize the Taliban as the official new government, they weren't democratically elected so the funds still belong to the previous Afghanistan government. Seeing as they're no longer active, that means the funds are forfeited. It's not fair, but welcome to currency centralization. If the Afghanistan people were concerned about money mismanagement, they shouldn't have allocated 7 billion USD to a government that has a tough time managing their own economy and maybe owned a bit of crypto themselves.

Was this how it has always been? When do a government become "legitimate"? Is it a matter of how many foreign government recognize it?

[lumbanrang]

President Biden's decision not to give the full amount of money to the Taliban was the right decision. Because as we know that the Taliban is a group that has been known as a terrorist and how can they possibly manage the country well? we have seen that many people are leaving Afghanistan because of the cruelty of the Taliban. Giving them complete control over that kind of money would give them the opportunity to get stronger, they could use the money to buy weapons from the illegal market, who knows.

[cmg777]

President Biden's decision not to give the full amount of money to the Taliban was the right decision. Because as we know that the Taliban is a group that has been known as a terrorist and how can they possibly manage the country well? we have seen that many people are leaving Afghanistan because of the cruelty of the Taliban. Giving them complete control over that kind of money would give them the opportunity to get stronger, they could use the money to buy weapons from the illegal market, who knows.

Buy weapons? More like he just gave them basic weapons along with advanced ones they can just flat out sell to Russia, China or the highest bidder. And to OP Fair to Afghans? He just pulled out when these people still don't know how to run a country on their own... Really I think Afghanistan should have been the 51st state with all the Lithium they have and all the blood and sweet the crumbling US Empire put into it. Where is America's return on investment? None. Should have never gone and just have those people destroy themselves with their own ignorance.

[lumbanrang]

President Biden's decision not to give the full amount of money to the Taliban was the right decision. Because as we know that the Taliban is a group that has been known as a terrorist and how can they possibly manage the country well? we have seen that many people are leaving Afghanistan because of the cruelty of the Taliban. Giving them complete control over that kind of money would give them the opportunity to get stronger, they could use the money to buy weapons from the illegal market, who knows.

Buy weapons? More like he just gave them basic weapons along with advanced ones they can just flat out sell to Russia, China or the highest bidder. And to OP Fair to Afghans? He just pulled out when these people still don't know how to run a country on their own... Really I think Afghanistan should have been the 51st state with all the Lithium they have and all the blood and sweet the crumbling US Empire put into it. Where is America's return on investment? None. Should have never gone and just have those people destroy themselves with their own ignorance.

America has spent a lot of money on a useless war in Afghanistan. So their decision to get out of there is the most appropriate thing. And also Afghans should be able to run their own country without any help from America because that's what they want and following the peace agreement between the Taliban and the U.S.

[cmg777]

President Biden's decision not to give the full amount of money to the Taliban was the right decision. Because as we know that the Taliban is a group that has been known as a terrorist and how can they possibly manage the country well? we have seen that many people are leaving Afghanistan because of the cruelty of the Taliban. Giving them complete control over that kind of money would give them the opportunity to get stronger, they could use the money to buy weapons from the illegal market, who knows.

Buy weapons? More like he just gave them basic weapons along with advanced ones they can just flat out sell to Russia, China or the highest bidder. And to OP Fair to Afghans? He just pulled out when these people still don't know how to run a country on their own... Really I think Afghanistan should have been the 51st state with all the Lithium they have and all the blood and sweet the crumbling US Empire put into it. Where is America's return on investment? None. Should have never gone and just have those people destroy themselves with their own ignorance.

America has spent a lot of money on a useless war in Afghanistan. So their decision to get out of there is the most appropriate thing. And also Afghans should be able to run their own country without any help from America because that's what they want and following the peace agreement between the Taliban and the U.S.

Overall it was a pointless war. The people that basically controlled it before now control it again. The US got nothing out of it besides killing the Taliban's possible intent to be "terrorists" now they can focus that energy on the American people which has been the plan all along. 

[Sayeds56]

President Biden's decision not to give the full amount of money to the Taliban was the right decision. Because as we know that the Taliban is a group that has been known as a terrorist and how can they possibly manage the country well? we have seen that many people are leaving Afghanistan because of the cruelty of the Taliban. Giving them complete control over that kind of money would give them the opportunity to get stronger, they could use the money to buy weapons from the illegal market, who knows.

Buy weapons? More like he just gave them basic weapons along with advanced ones they can just flat out sell to Russia, China or the highest bidder. And to OP Fair to Afghans? He just pulled out when these people still don't know how to run a country on their own... Really I think Afghanistan should have been the 51st state with all the Lithium they have and all the blood and sweet the crumbling US Empire put into it. Where is America's return on investment? None. Should have never gone and just have those people destroy themselves with their own ignorance.

America has spent a lot of money on a useless war in Afghanistan. So their decision to get out of there is the most appropriate thing. And also Afghans should be able to run their own country without any help from America because that's what they want and following the peace agreement between the Taliban and the U.S.

Overall it was a pointless war. The people that basically controlled it before now control it again. The US got nothing out of it besides killing the Taliban's possible intent to be "terrorists" now they can focus that energy on the American people which has been the plan all along.  

True it was a pointless war and US didn't get anything despite spending Billions of dollars and massive killing of Afghans, Taliban were ruling then and Taliban are ruling now. By the way not a single Afghan was involved on twin towers attack  on 9/11. I think US should support afghan people through NGOs  to stabilize Afghanistan’s ravaged economy and prevent a humanitarian crisis. Above all remember your humanity.

[lumbanrang]

President Biden's decision not to give the full amount of money to the Taliban was the right decision. Because as we know that the Taliban is a group that has been known as a terrorist and how can they possibly manage the country well? we have seen that many people are leaving Afghanistan because of the cruelty of the Taliban. Giving them complete control over that kind of money would give them the opportunity to get stronger, they could use the money to buy weapons from the illegal market, who knows.

Buy weapons? More like he just gave them basic weapons along with advanced ones they can just flat out sell to Russia, China or the highest bidder. And to OP Fair to Afghans? He just pulled out when these people still don't know how to run a country on their own... Really I think Afghanistan should have been the 51st state with all the Lithium they have and all the blood and sweet the crumbling US Empire put into it. Where is America's return on investment? None. Should have never gone and just have those people destroy themselves with their own ignorance.

America has spent a lot of money on a useless war in Afghanistan. So their decision to get out of there is the most appropriate thing. And also Afghans should be able to run their own country without any help from America because that's what they want and following the peace agreement between the Taliban and the U.S.

Overall it was a pointless war. The people that basically controlled it before now control it again. The US got nothing out of it besides killing the Taliban's possible intent to be "terrorists" now they can focus that energy on the American people which has been the plan all along. 

It's time for America to focus on its people instead of dealing with the wars in the Middle East. They spent more than 2 Trillion dollars and got nothing from this war. If only that amount of money were used for their citizens, they would be able to help those in need, especially in the health sector.

[Eltharion]

US betrayed the Afghans once again and many US close allies are afraid that this can happen to them too. 

[lumbanrang]

US betrayed the Afghans once again and many US close allies are afraid that this can happen to them too. 

Betray what? did you know that America has spent more than 2 trillion dollars on this useless war? when America decided to leave Afghanistan it was the wisest decision they could make. America has betrayed no one here. From the beginning, America was involved in Afghanistan to take their revenge on al-Qaida. This caused security chaos in Afghanistan and America helped Afghanistan to solve this problem. But after nearly 20 years of a meaningless war, Afghanistan has not changed, so America left Afghanistan, especially after the Taliban declared they were ready to run this country, America was determined to leave this country. So America doesn't betray anyone here.

[Smartvirus]

They say heavy lies the head that wears the crown or so the sayings go. Decision making is no easy thing, it doesn't fit for everyone but in a civilised world as we have it today, I think it's in the nations best interest as somehow, it all goes right to the country that owned the money and to some extent, might elevate the citizens of Afghanistan as well. Giving the whole money right over to the Taliban government doesn't mean it would be used for the greater good of the poeple. There rule is already questionable and the same thjng would also go on money and how it's distributed.

[cabron]

Not to give favor to the Talibans but it's their government now. Whether US is not recognizing them as the government of Afghanistan or not, it's what is happening on the ground. The Taliban is the government of the country NOT the US.

What will the US do if Afghanistan starts using BTC like El Salvador, are they also to going to prevent them like what they are doing to El Salvador this time?

Bukele responded to them that they don't have ZERO jurisdiction over El Salvador, maybe they should also start thinking they also have ZERO for Afghanistan.
https://twitter.com/nayibbukele/status/1494066643625988107

OK boomers…
You have 0 jurisdiction on a sovereign and independent nation.
We are not your colony, your back yard or your front yard.
Stay out of our internal affairs.

Don’t try to control something you can’t control 😉

[yhiaali3]

Do you think that the US government and the US president care about the Afghan people? Do you also think that the ousted Afghan government or the Taliban movement also cares for the Afghan people? I don't think so at all.
The US government does not care about the Afghan people, but what it cares about is protecting its interests and not being threatened, so they will not return this money to the Taliban, which can be used against them. As for the ousted Afghan government, which fled and left the Afghan people to face their fate, it does not deserve to get any dollars because they will put it in their pockets Nothing will come to the Afghan people, and so will the Taliban. They will use the money to buy more weapons and mercenaries to strengthen their power and they will not care about the suffering of the Afghan people at all.

[cabron]

Do you think that the US government and the US president care about the Afghan people? Do you also think that the ousted Afghan government or the Taliban movement also cares for the Afghan people? I don't think so at all.
The US government does not care about the Afghan people, but what it cares about is protecting its interests and not being threatened, so they will not return this money to the Taliban, which can be used against them. As for the ousted Afghan government, which fled and left the Afghan people to face their fate, it does not deserve to get any dollars because they will put it in their pockets Nothing will come to the Afghan people, and so will the Taliban. They will use the money to buy more weapons and mercenaries to strengthen their power and they will not care about the suffering of the Afghan people at all.

Well, I'm not surprised they don't care about the Afghans. But they surely care about Uyghurs of China even if they are the baddest combination at all. Uyghurs are Muslims and also Chinese as well.

The Afghans are suffering and with these funds, it will be a relief for them to restart their lives after its been militarized for 20 years. But why is the previous president not even found today? How difficult is it to find that guy who flies out of the country with a helicopter full of money?

[Similificator]

In all honesty, I really cannot blame Biden because of this decision. I mean, I am not a fan of the guy but this problem isn't really that easy to fix. On one hand, the Afghans are suffering and on the other hand, terrorists are ruling the country. Of course I wouldn't trust such huge funds on terrorists and instead opt for better distribution for the people really affected by the civil war and the people suffering. I believe that there really isn't a huge difference between right and wrong in the chouces available for biden right now.

- Either way, I really feel for the Afghans and I hope that they manage to solve their own countries problem because if not, they will only be food to be taken advantage of by other forces (to control).

[Eltharion]

US betrayed the Afghans once again and many US close allies are afraid that this can happen to them too. 

Betray what? did you know that America has spent more than 2 trillion dollars on this useless war? when America decided to leave Afghanistan it was the wisest decision they could make. America has betrayed no one here. From the beginning, America was involved in Afghanistan to take their revenge on al-Qaida. This caused security chaos in Afghanistan and America helped Afghanistan to solve this problem. But after nearly 20 years of a meaningless war, Afghanistan has not changed, so America left Afghanistan, especially after the Taliban declared they were ready to run this country, America was determined to leave this country. So America doesn't betray anyone here.

The US handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban, a terrorist organisation, and noone from the public even knows the details of the Doha contract they signed, and left a mess behind, to say the least, under which primarily the Afghans are suffering. On many occasions US sacrificed Afghan lives for its own short term gain, like freeing suicide murders at the request/or under the pressure of US for some US cause. Does these not fulfil the conditions for betrayal? or do you have a different definition?   

[lumbanrang]

US betrayed the Afghans once again and many US close allies are afraid that this can happen to them too.  

Betray what? did you know that America has spent more than 2 trillion dollars on this useless war? when America decided to leave Afghanistan it was the wisest decision they could make. America has betrayed no one here. From the beginning, America was involved in Afghanistan to take their revenge on al-Qaida. This caused security chaos in Afghanistan and America helped Afghanistan to solve this problem. But after nearly 20 years of a meaningless war, Afghanistan has not changed, so America left Afghanistan, especially after the Taliban declared they were ready to run this country, America was determined to leave this country. So America doesn't betray anyone here.

The US handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban, a terrorist organisation, and noone from the public even knows the details of the Doha contract they signed, and left a mess behind, to say the least, under which primarily the Afghans are suffering. On many occasions US sacrificed Afghan lives for its own short term gain, like freeing suicide murders at the request/or under the pressure of US for some US cause. Does these not fulfil the conditions for betrayal? or do you have a different definition?    

It wasn't treason, America was simply withdrawing from a meaningless war, it wasn't anything wrong. However, in the eyes of US veterans, especially those who have fought in Afghanistan they feel betrayed, they find it difficult to accept the fact that America left Afghanistan https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/11/12/anger-betrayal-and-humiliation-how-veterans-feel-about-the-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/