"Unified Rules of Bitcointalk Contests" Proposal

[Bitcoin SV]

In accordance with results of this successfull discussion, on behalf of honest & deceived people who are tired of watching the performances that each time plays out in front of them in every competition by these corrupted merit-sourcers & high-ranked signature gangs, I proposal to create "Unified Rules for Bitcointalk Contests" for preventing manipulation of voting in these contests & for fair play establishing

1) Merit-sourcers do not have the right to hand out merit to their electorate voted for them in contest topics and derivative discussions. If a merit-sourcer wants to say "thank you" to his voter for a vote in its favor, then nothing prevents them from doing it via PM. The usage of their powers by meritsourcers for their own purposes is a dishonest game. If merit-sourcer violates this rule, he should be redtagged as "Voting manupulator".

2) If the private commercial sponsors (like Sportsbet, CryptioS, ChipMixer, BestChange) wants to proceed its own contests, then they should proceed it among their signature-wearers only. Contest topics should  be created on behalf of the accounts that are representatives of these sponsors (sportsbet.io for example). Not from alts. Thus, there will be no claims for the unfairness of competitions on the side of simple honest people without signatures. This is due to the fact that in these private competitions henchmen of these sponsors always win.

3) suggest your options...

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P.S: Rule №1 of proposed "Unified Rules of Bitcointalk Contests" should take effect immediately due to the existence of an active competition at the moment.

Dear DT-members please consider the proposal at the consensus level in your private conferences

[Charles-Tim]

1) Merit-sourcers do not have the right to hand out merit to voters in contest topics and derivative discussions. If a merit-sourcer wants to say "thank you" to his voter for the vote, then nothing prevents him from doing it via PM. The usage of their powers by meritsourcers for their own purposes is a dishonest game. If merit-sourcer violates this rule, he should be redtagged as "Voting manupulator".

Meriting everyone that qualifies to vote and voted is not bad. Merit earned can be given to any useful posts, but in this second case, it would be preferable if the merit is given after the contest is over. It would have been more better if you have sent PM to icopress regarding this for suggestion and to include the rules in the next contest, or post about it appropriately. No one is manipulating anything and not in the rules not to merit until after the contest.

[Bitcoin SV]

Merit earned can be given to any useful posts, but in this second case, it would be preferable if the merit is given after the contest is over.

It's rationally. But these trickers can agree on this in advance.

It would have been more better if you have sent PM to icopress regarding this for suggestion and to include the rules in the next contest, or post about it appropriately.

I have not yet figured out whether to trust icopress. He is a Ratimov's buddy, and therefore also an interested person in winning by this corrupted merit-sourcer Ratimov. I don't blame icopress anything yet. Time will tell who that guy & what his goals in fact. I trust LoyceV more than icopress at this moment


Adequate users, please help support the initiative. I can no longer fight these farms alone. Everyone tired of these machines already. How much longer can these cyborgs be tolerated? I want the forum to have justice, so that everyone has the opportunity to achieve success, and not just this DT-junta that seized power on the forum. I want each violator to be punished only strictly in accordance with the severity of his violation, and not so that every stumbled newcomer is redtagged with a whole horde

[Charles-Tim]

I have not yet figured out whether to trust icopress. He is a Ratimov's buddy, and therefore also an interested person in winning by this corrupted merit-sourcer Ratimov. I don't blame icopress anything yet. Time will tell who that guy & what his goals in fact. I trust LoyceV more than icopress at this moment

I can see you active recently, try and contribute good like Icopress and Ratimov, you will start to trust them as long as this forum is concerned. You may get yourself out of those negative red trust.

[Bitcoin SV]

I can see you active recently, try and contribute good like Icopress and Ratimov, you will start to trust them as long it is this forum. You may as well ask theymos for name change and get yourself out of those negative red trust.

I'm ready to start trusting to icopress if he sets the rule №1 of proposed "Unified Rules of Bitcointalk Contests"

And this is will be my first step.

In a PM I will not write anything like these behind-sceners. Everything must be public

If icopress have a conscience, let them accept my proposal on its own initiative, and not because I ask him to

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I proposal to create "Unified Rules for Bitcointalk Contests" for preventing manipulation of voting in these contests & for fair play establishing

Contests such as the one you linked to (or at least your discussion of the Bitcointalk Community Awards) aren't official as far as I know, i.e., they're not being sanctioned by Theymos--please correct me if I'm wrong--so I don't think a list of rules, even if they're logical and fair, would have any force behind them.

1) Merit-sourcers do not have the right to hand out merit to their electorate voted for them in contest topics and derivative discussions. If a merit-sourcer wants to say "thank you" to his voter for a vote in its favor, then nothing prevents them from doing it via PM. The usage of their powers by meritsourcers for their own purposes is a dishonest game. If merit-sourcer violates this rule, he should be redtagged as "Voting manupulator".

OK, so I didn't read your thread about the community awards contest (though I will), but it sounds like you think there's a problem with merit sources and some kind of "gangs"?  Not sure I agree with that, though I don't doubt there was a lot of merits handed out in the voting thread.  Those types of threads always have lots of merits given in them, no matter what is being voted on.  I really don't think there was any blatant attempts to sway voters if that's what you're saying, but I'll have to review the thread.

I decided not to cast votes in that contest simply because it was too much brain power to remember who did what last year, and there are so many members deserving of accolades.  Plus I didn't think voting for Foxpup in each category would be appropriate.  Lol.

[Bitcoin SV]

Contests such as the one you linked to (or at least your discussion of the Bitcointalk Community Awards) aren't official as far as I know, i.e., they're not being sanctioned by Theymos--please correct me if I'm wrong--so I don't think a list of rules, even if they're logical and fair, would have any force behind them.

This contest is created with the official support by four btt-accredited sponsors (Sportsbet, CryptioS, ChipMixer, BestChange) for all bitcointalk users with 50 merits.

• You must have 50 merit or be a full member or higher to vote ➥ Note.

Or you want to say that this just a cover which was created only to reward its main signature-agents? That to make others stare and envy. A performance designed to get even more hamsters with the FOMO syndrome to subscribe to these darknet sponsors. What a cunning and insidious scheme. OMG maybe the situation is worse than it seems, icopress probably an agent of these darknetians

If this so, so this is a deception of honest people.

Now everything is clear to me. Ratimov will win and it's inevitable because the sponsors of this contest are its patrons. Honest people will never win there.

These organizers & his associates should be distrusted and redtagged due to grand deception

[Foxpup]

I decided not to cast votes in that contest simply because it was too much brain power to remember who did what last year, and there are so many members deserving of accolades.  Plus I didn't think voting for Foxpup in each category would be appropriate.  Lol.

Merited just to see if OP objects to me abusing my merit source/signature gang powers to bribe people to not vote for me, so confident I am that I can succeed with just my pure (but allegedly not real) vixenly sexiness.

[Bitcoin SV]

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I don't mind if you will win in fair play after my proposed rule №1 will take effect

Contests such as the one you linked to (or at least your discussion of the Bitcointalk Community Awards) aren't official as far as I know, i.e., they're not being sanctioned by Theymos--please correct me if I'm wrong--so I don't think a list of rules, even if they're logical and fair, would have any force behind them.

Bitcointalk.ORG forim is a free social-oriented meritocratic platform, not a commercial organization.
And all honest politically active bitcointalkers have a right to demand to integration a fair unified rules for this contests

If private sponsors like Sportsbet, CryptioS, ChipMixer, BestChange wants to proceed its own contests, then let they proceed it among their signature-wearers only. Then there will be no claims from honest people OMG rule №2 created just now

[LoyceV]

1) Merit-sourcers do not have the right to hand out merit to their electorate voted for them in contest topics and derivative discussions.

Although this makes some sense, I'm not in favour of a hard rule for it. Merit sources are free to send Merit the way they want. I wouldn't Merit people just for making a certain vote though.
In this topic, I wanted to Merit all qualifying posts, but I didn't want to encourage people to post there just for Merit. So I waited several weeks, then Merited all posts. I didn't do this anymore for posts made after this.
If you'd want to Merit votes for the Award, you could just wait for the award to be over before you do it. But: I also know I've Merited contributions to contests on the Services board before, just like I Merited posts in the 10th anniversary art contest. In that contest theymos even used community Merit in judging:

In judging consensus, I will be substantially but not entirely influenced by the total amount of merit your art received.

The usage of their powers by meritsourcers for their own purposes is a dishonest game. If merit-sourcer violates this rule, he should be redtagged as "Voting manupulator".

Theymos seems to disagree:

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

(click for full context, this quote has nothing to do with any award)

I have not yet figured out whether to trust icopress.

I've seen no reason not to trust icopress in this. Also: most of the prize money was offered only after he started the topic.

I'm ready to start trusting to icopress if he sets the rule №1 of proposed "Unified Rules of Bitcointalk Contests"

It's not up to icopress to decide where anyone can spend their sMerit.

Contests such as the one you linked to (or at least your discussion of the Bitcointalk Community Awards) aren't official as far as I know, i.e., they're not being sanctioned by Theymos--please correct me if I'm wrong--

It's not official, but the fact that it shows up as News on top of this page makes me believe it is at least endorsed. Let me put it this way: promoting the use of a custom Trust list never made it to that level (although I believe it should).

Now everything is clear to me. Ratimov will win and it's inevitable because the sponsors of this contest are its patrons. Honest people will never win there.

Have you considered that people can change their vote after they've been Merited by Ratimov? Could it be he's actually been very active in the past year, and people remember his name because of that?

[Bitcoin SV]

I've seen no reason not to trust icopress in this. Also: most of the prize money was offered only after he started the topic.

How do you know, maybe that's how it was intended by them that they would not be suspected. For credibility. It cannot be that icopress just created a topic and then these sponsors accidentally appeared and offered such a huge sums of money.This doesn't happen by chance. Probably icopress is a puppet of these darknet sponsors. If now some other non-DT user creates a contest, then not a single bastard will be sponsor. You can proceed you own experiment and see for yourself

The last art competition was much more honest, at least these winned DT-medocrities tried to draw something. At least their cave paintings came out funny. But the authors of masterpieces, as expected in these muddy competitions, remained underestimated

By the way, why do you think they removed the troll nomination? Probably because trolls are not allowed into a signature campaigns, therefore they are not commercially profitable for these darknet sponsors?

That's why last year the "troll of the year" category was removed. In this case giving them any attention is already more than they deserve.

I didn’t notice that there were fewer trolls after this category was removed. Nutildah for example bathed in glory for a long time after removing that category. Suchmoon is still here

[icopress]

If the private commercial sponsors (like Sportsbet, CryptioS, ChipMixer, BestChange) [...]

It's just a matter of misattribution, since CryptioS is a BCA partner and not a sponsor, since it supported our endeavors from the very beginning, without pursuing any commercial goals, (as far as I know, they have only one large client with whom they have been working for many years). Not to mention that this company does not specialize in the production of collectibles ... most of the equipment was purchased because of this event.

Although this makes some sense, I'm not in favour of a hard rule for it. Merit sources are free to send Merit the way they want. I wouldn't Merit people just for making a certain vote though.

In general, I agree with you, and most likely next year I will come up with a mechanism that will limit any influence on the vote, (I even had the idea of only accepting votes from those who created their own trust list, lol... but unfortunately that would be a conflict of interest). Using my own example, I can say that in my understanding there is nothing wrong with sending merit to a user who spent 5 minutes making a meaningful choice. The difference is that some users don't share my opinion and use the merit system as a way to say thank you.

It's not official, but the fact that it shows up as News on top of this page makes me believe it is at least endorsed. Let me put it this way: promoting the use of a custom Trust list never made it to that level (although I believe it should).

I think it would be possible to consider this event as official only if Theymos hypothetically contributed something more tangible to the awards.

Rewards:	Community Awards will be held under the auspices of the forum and the prizes are directly dependent on community voting. The Administration has kindly agreed to assign the winners Custom Title, to express gratitude to those who have made an exceptional contribution to the development of the crypto community. The "Merit Prize fund" is a kind of addition to the "Custom Titles" and is intended to award the I, II and III place winners.
	█ Custom Title cannot be chosen at will, it can only be earned by public recognition. █ Awarded to winners for an indefinite period of time, displaying the year of distinction. █ These abilities are subject to moderation, and can be taken away for any reason. █ It is not guaranteed that you will be able to wear the title forever, as software changes may make this feature impractical.
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[...] offered such a huge sums of money.

You are mistaken, I can say with confidence that for companies of this size this is not a significant amount.

[LoyceV]

most likely next year I will come up with a mechanism that will limit any influence on the vote

Accepting only PMs would remove any possibility to influence votes by Merit, but I'd say having a public event is more important.

[Bitcoin SV]

In general, I agree with you, and most likely next year I will come up with a mechanism that will limit any influence on the vote

What honest next time are you talking about if suggested restrictions for stopping manipulations are not applying by you immediately here. Suggested restrictions should be applied immediately right now.

It seems that all the prizes have already been shared between these sockpuppets. Ratimov will win this contest. After such a dishonest game, there will be no next time. People will spit in your face next time. Every contest puppet will be redtagged & distrusted by deceived crowd

You are mistaken, I can say with confidence that for companies of this size this is not a significant amount.

For these cheaters this a big amount. And you can see that they are ready to do anything to win this contest by playing dirty. I have never seen such an influx of farms in one topic, especially considering that the forum is now low attendance

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Will you not deny that you are a Ratimov's buddy?

Prediction: Unfair Ratimov will win in that unfair contest by unfair methods. When the results of the competition are announced - read this post and make sure I guess

[yahoo62278]

Why do you care about the popularity contest? The prizes associated? Were you not chosen for a category you feel you should have won? No rules that are ever added to these contests will change anything in reality. People do not really pay much attention of what's going on on the forum for the most part. A very big chunk of them are on here to post for their sig campaign and log off once they get their nightly quota. There are a select group that actually pay attention to what's going on and that group is less than 500 users IMO.

It's not really worth complaining about. Just let the popular kids have fun and move on man. Bitching and moaning won't gain ya anything.

[Bitcoin SV]

Why do you care about the popularity contest?

For justice, for consensus. The fairer the forum, the better for everyone.

Bitching and moaning won't gain ya anything.

Sitting and being silent is even worse.

I care about the future of the forum despite my alignment. All the rest of the "honored figures" under the guise of decent people only do what they parasitize on this forum

[Bitcoin SV]

Proposal:

1) No one among contest winners should be deprived of prizes for political reasons.

2) Competition organizer which is discriminating against one or another participant of the competition for political reasons - must be redtagged & distrusted

3) Competition organizer which is changing contest rules during the competition & during counting the competition results - must be redtagged & distrusted