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February 15, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
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This is why we need bitcoin to reach mass adoption. They can freeze bank accounts because unfortunately they still have to convert bitcoin to fiat in order to be able to "spend" it which is where the totalitarian government can take advantage of and rob them of their own money. But if they could simply use bitcoin anywhere to purchase food, gas, etc. they wouldn't have needed the conversion in first place.
This only happens if people step in. If shops start accepting bitcoin payments, that would solve a lot of issues.

I don't know what the laws are in Canada, but I believe you don't need to ask for a special permit if you want to allow people to pay in Bitcoin in your store. The problem is not really with sellers, but with the fact that most people who invest in Bitcoin do not want to use it as a currency, but as a way to make $500 from $100 in a certain period of time.

It would be ideal if all civilized countries declared Bitcoin a legal tender, but we all know that this will not happen - although if this is the case in Canada at the moment, what is legal can become illegal overnight if it suits the authorities. Bitcoin is, like it or not, too dependent on traditional financial systems that are more than strong enough to sabotage it in terms of global usage.

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February 15, 2022, 08:45:48 PM
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The problem is not really with sellers, but with the fact that most people who invest in Bitcoin do not want to use it as a currency, but as a way to make $500 from $100 in a certain period of time.
Which brings us to the main problem: The users are affected by the investors much more than the investors are affected by the users. Even if most users bought Bitcoin exclusively for exchanging goods, there could always be a minority of investors who'd be willing to manipulate.

Investors' behavior affects the users negatively, but not the opposite.

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February 15, 2022, 10:42:55 PM
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I've seen those Canadians that are involved with the protest to have the solution through receiving donations in the form of bitcoin. And that's the best thing that they've done.
Now, the government can't do anything over that while they can still keep receiving donations that shows that many are supporting them and are on their side.
It's true that bitcoin is freedom and whether the government seizes our bank accounts because we don't agree with them, we know that we have a choice through #bitcoin.

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February 15, 2022, 11:06:03 PM
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Through the protest that is happening in Canada people from different parts of the world have understood the real usage of bitcoin. Common people doesn't have big understanding about the features it has got. Many find bitcoin as a way of money making and not as a technology that is developed to serve the people. Now it is time for real change and this is happening with the truckers.

I find Canada to be a nation that consider the rights of people, because even after such a long protest there is no big water gun firing or some serious attack over the protestors. Hope the solution will be a positive one.

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February 15, 2022, 11:29:19 PM
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What's happening in Canada, is a perfect example of what the government wants. That's why the government really hates Bitcoin or crypto. They cannot control our financial strength once we have the freedom to manage our own funds. When we criticize the government policy, they cannot freeze our money in crypto exchange/wallets. Our government realizes this potential, so they start to spread FUDs or intimidate us to avoid Bitcoin. Sure, Bitcoin or crypto is the solution for freedom in managing our finances. But the government always finds a way to intimidate us.

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February 16, 2022, 12:22:46 AM
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I am not siding with the anti-vaxxers since their stupidity is affecting so many people in a negative way, but I do feel that Trudeau went too far by invoking this particular order.

The truckers need to end their protests asap since they could get screwed if they continue protesting in this manner.

Also, BTC and other cryptocurrencies could help these people as long as they use decentralised exchanges, platforms etc since they wouldn't have to deal with KYC which would help them avoid government surveillance.

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February 16, 2022, 01:07:14 AM
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Now we have this example the cause to turn all your fiat into crypto assets whenever there's a calamity is not a theory anymore because as we know, when they froze all of our accounts, there's nothing we can do about it, no matter where we are. in that case, bitcoins is your friend if you want to use your money anywhere you go. Now is the time to consider converting it to bitcoins, who knows if there will be some more strict rules later on.

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February 16, 2022, 01:33:12 AM
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I am not siding with the anti-vaxxers since their stupidity is affecting so many people in a negative way, but I do feel that Trudeau went too far by invoking this particular order.

The truckers need to end their protests asap since they could get screwed if they continue protesting in this manner.

Also, BTC and other cryptocurrencies could help these people as long as they use decentralised exchanges, platforms etc since they wouldn't have to deal with KYC which would help them avoid government surveillance.

The protest is just going to affect the country, it looks like the truckers are willing to crash the economy of the country down while challenging the government. Seem very extreme that Trudeau already sees them as terrorists. It's not good anymore if they just look at it as a whole, it damages everyone.

Meanwhile, Gofundme accelerates the adoption of BTC when they blocked the funds for the trucker's campaign. Any organization now knows, gofundme couldn't be trusted and they'd have to use crypto.

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February 21, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
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I am not siding with the anti-vaxxers since their stupidity is affecting so many people in a negative way, but I do feel that Trudeau went too far by invoking this particular order.

The truckers need to end their protests asap since they could get screwed if they continue protesting in this manner.

Also, BTC and other cryptocurrencies could help these people as long as they use decentralised exchanges, platforms etc since they wouldn't have to deal with KYC which would help them avoid government surveillance.

I think, peaceful protests is an important part of democratic society, and although, like you, I'm not siding with the anti-vaxxers, I'm glad that Bitcoin can be used for supporting protesters when the government forcibly deprives them of money, or, means of survival, in other words.

Whether we like this particular protest or not(I don't like it), it does not matter. What matters is people's ability to protest and Bitcoin's capability to be of help if needed.

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February 21, 2022, 12:06:48 PM
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I think, peaceful protests is an important part of democratic society, and although, like you, I'm not siding with the anti-vaxxers, I'm glad that Bitcoin can be used for supporting protesters when the government forcibly deprives them of money, or, means of survival, in other words.

Whether we like this particular protest or not(I don't like it), it does not matter. What matters is people's ability to protest and Bitcoin's capability to be of help if needed.
We have to leave all the other things to the side and see what is truly going on.  Canada is making fascist moves.  This is more dangerous than any of these protests, protestors or their beliefs combined.  If your survival is in danger because you are asking the government you chose and work for for a change, it is really bad.  Bitcoin can be used and is helping, which is all great.  But to put this all into perspective, Canadian protestors have to find a decentralized way of living in order to survive.

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This is horrible since when you force people to do something that they might not agree on and at the same time at such a sudden notice making everything so horrible since it would be hard for them to earn due to the pandemic people would have no choice to :
1. Shift to a better currency immune to the governmental manipulation
2. They will loose all the trust and respect that they have for the government as well
3. Peaceful protests does come into the right for them to voice their opinions as well.

I don't really have any problems with antivaxers, I do think they are stupid but at the same time being someone who does respect their opinion as well. It's stupid to block their bank accounts and cut them off just like that.

People need to :
1. Switch to bitcoins
2. Get some of their assets in there
3. Choose a better government
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February 21, 2022, 09:41:39 PM
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I am not siding with the anti-vaxxers since their stupidity is affecting so many people in a negative way, but I do feel that Trudeau went too far by invoking this particular order.

The truckers need to end their protests asap since they could get screwed if they continue protesting in this manner.

Also, BTC and other cryptocurrencies could help these people as long as they use decentralised exchanges, platforms etc since they wouldn't have to deal with KYC which would help them avoid government surveillance.

The protest is just going to affect the country, it looks like the truckers are willing to crash the economy of the country down while challenging the government. Seem very extreme that Trudeau already sees them as terrorists. It's not good anymore if they just look at it as a whole, it damages everyone.

Meanwhile, Gofundme accelerates the adoption of BTC when they blocked the funds for the trucker's campaign. Any organization now knows, gofundme couldn't be trusted and they'd have to use crypto.

The government and the protesters should sit and talk about the probable solution for this situation.
Because this will indeed affect their economy, and inflation is very imminent.
The use of bitcoin is now being highlighted as part of anonymous donation programs.
GoFundMe platform can remove this crowdfunding campaign as they said it is violating their ToS.
But that's fine, in reality, these truckers can receive bitcoin donations without the need of third party.
However, I just want this situation to be resolved as there are other people who are affected by this movement.
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February 21, 2022, 10:11:24 PM
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I am not siding with the anti-vaxxers since their stupidity is affecting so many people in a negative way, but I do feel that Trudeau went too far by invoking this particular order.

The truckers need to end their protests asap since they could get screwed if they continue protesting in this manner.

Also, BTC and other cryptocurrencies could help these people as long as they use decentralised exchanges, platforms etc since they wouldn't have to deal with KYC which would help them avoid government surveillance.

The protest is just going to affect the country, it looks like the truckers are willing to crash the economy of the country down while challenging the government. Seem very extreme that Trudeau already sees them as terrorists. It's not good anymore if they just look at it as a whole, it damages everyone.

Meanwhile, Gofundme accelerates the adoption of BTC when they blocked the funds for the trucker's campaign. Any organization now knows, gofundme couldn't be trusted and they'd have to use crypto.
The truckers are strong to protest, but this doesn't gonna crash the economy of Canada in a large scale. As it is the main border between Canada and USA all major export happens through it. The automobile industry have got affected much as USA imports almost 90% of the production. This has now turned to be like an ego clash between the president and the truckers. If not this could've come to an end.

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February 24, 2022, 11:39:38 AM
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I think, peaceful protests is an important part of democratic society, and although, like you, I'm not siding with the anti-vaxxers, I'm glad that Bitcoin can be used for supporting protesters when the government forcibly deprives them of money, or, means of survival, in other words.

Whether we like this particular protest or not(I don't like it), it does not matter. What matters is people's ability to protest and Bitcoin's capability to be of help if needed.
We have to leave all the other things to the side and see what is truly going on.  Canada is making fascist moves.  This is more dangerous than any of these protests, protestors or their beliefs combined.  If your survival is in danger because you are asking the government you chose and work for for a change, it is really bad.  Bitcoin can be used and is helping, which is all great.  But to put this all into perspective, Canadian protestors have to find a decentralized way of living in order to survive.

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If you mean that Canadian government is making fascist moves by freezing the accounts of the protesters, I agree with you. Also I hope this news is true



so we can have a sigh of relief. After all, they have fair courts and stuff. But Bitcoin showed it can be helpful in such situations, and that's what's important.

It's clear now that Bitcoin is not helping criminals to escape punishment. It's helping helping normal citizens when those in power go crazy.

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February 24, 2022, 02:02:17 PM
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Again another perfect example why Bitcoin is Freedom!
And when 'they' take your freedom the only hope are the cryptocurrencies.

This is not about pandemic nor vax/anti-vax, this is just example of how the government can shut you down if you do not agree with them on any matter.

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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has taken the unprecedented step of invoking the Emergencies Act to crack down on anti-vaccine mandate protests.

Mr Trudeau said the scope of the measures would be "time-limited", "reasonable and proportionate" and would not see the military deployed.

With no need for a court order, banks will be able freeze personal accounts of anyone linked with the protests.

Maybe Chrys Sky was right back in May 2020.
Bitcoin is "people's true freedom", governments can't do what they want, this is the reason why the global adoption of Bitcoin will be the biggest event in human history.  Trudeau did what made Canadians even more excited to adopt Bitcoin, freezing the bank accounts of the protesters is a rape of rights.

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February 25, 2022, 11:14:25 AM
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Bitcoin is "people's true freedom", governments can't do what they want, this is the reason why the global adoption of Bitcoin will be the biggest event in human history.  Trudeau did what made Canadians even more excited to adopt Bitcoin, freezing the bank accounts of the protesters is a rape of rights.
This is why I make sure to have some money stored in Bitcoin, not because I have plans to go against the government or do anything wrong at all, but I just feel safe know that some of my money is stored as Bitcoin; with Bitcoin I know that I am in total freedom and have full control over my money and no one would be able to take any action against me by freezing my account since they won’t be able to do that. Even if tomorrow that the government should in some bridge or limit access to my bank account, I know that I can continue to make use with what I have in my Bitcoin wallet.

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February 25, 2022, 02:05:27 PM
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Bitcoin has proven freedom to those countries that adopted it during the pandemic that took over 1 year and some months in the country. During the lockdown that made many companies to stopped working because of the covid-19 virus that was spreading all over the world by claiming people lives which was giving more access to some citizens who are willing to be part of the bitcoin freedom which Satoshi created for the world to enjoy. Bitcoin has reduced so many unemployment from the world labour market that is giving the youths more opportunities to become rich in the community.

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February 25, 2022, 02:19:30 PM
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Though I like such kinda news and how we are able to relate the so called security of our independence through bitcoin, I’m not able to grasp one thing: Why government do not understand this?
I mean it’s been long since when they are taking such harsh actions, but one way or other we the users of crypto always find a way through it and keep faith kn crypto.

Instead of fighting for it, they should just work in collaboration with the blockchain and crypto space on it.

I just hope billionaires like Elon will push the human race towards the crypto space by taking Government along with it. May be by under the table work or straight on the face. They have the power, they should use it.
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February 25, 2022, 05:44:16 PM
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It’s nothing new with the government, they have been doing such things for a very long time. What happened during the ENDSARS protest? It was reported that a lot of protesters had their banks accounts frozen. So, the government always takes this action all the time against protesters.

This is why we need Bitcoin, when you’re in such a situation Bitcoin is always going to be the only solution out for you, as long as you keep whatever amount you have in there as a secret and not let the government know that you have some money stored away in Bitcoin, government wouldn’t know that you have Bitcoin and they wouldn’t also be able to access it.
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February 26, 2022, 05:51:32 AM
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Bitcoin has proven freedom to those countries that adopted it during the pandemic that took over 1 year and some months in the country. During the lockdown that made many companies to stopped working because of the covid-19 virus that was spreading all over the world by claiming people lives which was giving more access to some citizens who are willing to be part of the bitcoin freedom which Satoshi created for the world to enjoy. Bitcoin has reduced so many unemployment from the world labour market that is giving the youths more opportunities to become rich in the community.
Jobs are stopped for a good reason and that is to prevent the spread of the virus and also to protect the workers of the company. Bitcoin is a currency and not a job but you and other's have mistaken it. It is only just a medium that you get when you do a certain job. Even though your post is about covid pandemic, I still think that it is not the same as the issue that Canadians are facing because the root cause of their protest is about vaccination.

It is wrong when you are forced to agree even if you know that it was not right. We must have a courage to disagree because it is our life anyway, we have a right to live as person. We aren't scared anymore because we have btc and crypto's that we can use.
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