Canada to freeze Freedom Convoy Protestors bank accounts...

[Charles-Tim]

It's very hard to believe that a progressive country like Canada has taken such a drastic step like an authoritarian country. Peaceful protests comes under human rights. I didn't hear any news of violence during the trucker's protest. So it's surprising that Canadian government has decided to freeze the bank account of the protesters.

Be it peaceful or not peaceful protests, this is what the government of a nation will do, this is one of the advantage of their local currencies, for the government to have the full control. It can even get to a point they will deny their citizens of internet and electricity. Most countries if not all are now not in authoritarian regime anymore but there are some contr the government still want in form of authority. Life is always partial, especially the government aspect of life is always totally partial.

[tabas]

also remember that exchanges are fail points.  bitcoin is 100% traceable to an exchange and to your bank account.

Not unless they use a mixer then the problem's solved. There's also coinjoin which they can use to make their bitcoin's untraceable. And as far as the bank account's concerned.
It will be simple for them to use someone's name and a bank account that's not yet known by the public and the government. They can use a friend of theirs or relatives up to the many degrees for which they won't be traced that they're connected to them.

Or they can use the #1 currency preferred by money launderers - physical fiat?

They can but they shouldn't put it into their bank accounts as their government is really looking for them and serious with taking and freezing the accounts of the protesters.

This incident clearly shows why we need Bitcoin and decentralization, if such a shameful thing is happening in a developed country that respects human rights like Canada, what can be said about the rest of the less civilized countries of the world? This is an immoral act by the Canadian government to confiscate the money of those people who carried out these peaceful demonstrations to demand their rights!!!
Every day the need for Bitcoin appears more and more. Everyone should stand with these protesters and help them with everything we can through moral and material support as well. This can be done through support on social media as well as paying Bitcoin donations.

They're not confiscating it but freezing it. And those protesters I think if they'll stop doing it, they'll get their funds unfreeze. That's likely what's going to happen and they're pressuring them through freezing their funds and their bank accounts.

[naira]

It's very hard to believe that a progressive country like Canada has taken such a drastic step like an authoritarian country. Peaceful protests comes under human rights. I didn't hear any news of violence during the trucker's protest. So it's surprising that Canadian government has decided to freeze the bank account of the protesters.

Be it peaceful or not peaceful protests, this is what the government of a nation will do, this is one of the advantage of their local currencies, for the government to have the full control. It can even get to a point they will deny their citizens of internet and electricity. Most countries if not all are now not in authoritarian regime anymore but there are some contr the government still want in form of authority. Life is always partial, especially the government aspect of life is always totally partial.

In this case the Canadian government has declared its impartiality to Bitcoin, under pretexts that are sans and with conventional origins. Now the truck drivers still cannot access what is their right, as it was planned from the start that the donation is to finance them in delivering goods to the border. The authoritarian government shows unpreparedness for the disbursement of the money generated from Bitcoin, this is a blunder for the demonstrators as well as a big question mark that the value of Bitcoin generated from fundraising will go where.

[pinggoki]

I don't think that it's going to stop th supporters though because I am pretty sure that they're going to find ways, remember that P2P is still an option in this situation and it's going to be difficult for the government of Canada to stop that, they'll going to eventually yield to this protesters because we know and they know who's right in this situation.

[fiulpro]

The problem is :
Everyone does have a right to protest even if you think that they might be wrong. At the end of the day government doing all this is extremely aggressive towards these people. There is an extreme complication regarding vaccination and people's opinions. Freezing their bank accounts is far more worse than anything since right now those truckers are struggling to make it work and at the same time there are companies also in the middle trying to figure out how to increase the efficiency in the middle of the pandemic as well, the protest did not just put a halt on the economics but at the same time it have turned the government hostile towards the people. Especially during the pandemic I think this might be taking it a bit too far.

[Chrisleva1963]

This is ridiculous that Bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies are even considering freezing these assets.  Wouldn't that move align a so call neutral and unbiased company with a biased tyrannical government?  Why would Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency company be subject to suggestions imposed by some country's government?  Isn't Bitcoin supposed to be not associated with governments?  This could be a big loss for any cryptocurrency that allows a tyrannical government dictate who can participate.  I hope Bitcoin thinks very hard about what they do.

[laredo7mm]

The Truckers were also supported with the bitcoin donations which emerged as significant move and appreciated by many and they collected total of 21 bitcoins through this.The GofundMe blocked the donations worth $10 million for the drivers and inspect to block those accounts so crypto donations were inspired and they collected 21 bitcoins out of it

Crypto fans of the Canadian truckers' anti-vax protest have raised more than $900,000 in bitcoin after donations via GoFundMe were blocked.

This happens because many right wings people try to use the situation and divert the movement as an anti-govt protest. But the donation was supposed to use somewhere else. I think as a big democracy Canada should remove this law for truck drivers so that the supply chain can be normal again. Many Nordic countries already removed all the restrictions for covid so that people can lead a normal life again and it's proven that omicron is a mild variation so don't think there's any need to restrict right now.

[mobilestrike]

The Truckers were also supported with the bitcoin donations which emerged as significant move and appreciated by many and they collected total of 21 bitcoins through this.The GofundMe blocked the donations worth $10 million for the drivers and inspect to block those accounts so crypto donations were inspired and they collected 21 bitcoins out of it

Crypto fans of the Canadian truckers' anti-vax protest have raised more than $900,000 in bitcoin after donations via GoFundMe were blocked.

This happens because many right wings people try to use the situation and divert the movement as an anti-govt protest. But the donation was supposed to use somewhere else. I think as a big democracy Canada should remove this law for truck drivers so that the supply chain can be normal again. Many Nordic countries already removed all the restrictions for covid so that people can lead a normal life again and it's proven that omicron is a mild variation so don't think there's any need to restrict right now.

I was also thinking the same that the government have not to disturb the peaceful situation of their state. They have to negotiate with these people and have to make another path which will be acceptable for both of them. If they will do more hard on them then the protestors will do more disturbance and they will think the government as not their supportive.

[coolcoinz]

I don't think that it's going to stop th supporters though because I am pretty sure that they're going to find ways, remember that P2P is still an option in this situation and it's going to be difficult for the government of Canada to stop that, they'll going to eventually yield to this protesters because we know and they know who's right in this situation.

It won't stop them because the government is basically trying to kick them in the balls instead of playing fair. The government hit first by restricting basic freedoms so people decided to protest and now the government is threatening them and stealing from them. This is the easiest way to make them more angry and keep the protests going. The government of Canada somehow doesn't get that to stop protests you have to negotiate. If you hit back with force you'll have riots and this isn't something the government can win. It will keep escalating until people start dying and then it's going to turn into an armed insurrection like in Ukraine in 2014.

This is ridiculous that Bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies are even considering freezing these assets.  Wouldn't that move align a so call neutral and unbiased company with a biased tyrannical government?  Why would Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency company be subject to suggestions imposed by some country's government?  Isn't Bitcoin supposed to be not associated with governments?  This could be a big loss for any cryptocurrency that allows a tyrannical government dictate who can participate.  I hope Bitcoin thinks very hard about what they do.

 
Listen Bitcoin, think about what you're doing! Don't freeze people's assets, or else!

[paxmao]

It's very hard to believe that a progressive country like Canada has taken such a drastic step like an authoritarian country. Peaceful protests comes under human rights. I didn't hear any news of violence during the trucker's protest. So it's surprising that Canadian government has decided to freeze the bank account of the protesters.

Be it peaceful or not peaceful protests, this is what the government of a nation will do, this is one of the advantage of their local currencies, for the government to have the full control. It can even get to a point they will deny their citizens of internet and electricity. Most countries if not all are now not in authoritarian regime anymore but there are some contr the government still want in form of authority. Life is always partial, especially the government aspect of life is always totally partial.

These protest are not really "peaceful". Peaceful means that it also has to be harmless and the intention of the protesters may be just to complain, but they are creating a big reputational, practical and economic problem, so you cannot class this as peaceful. Freezing the accounts of the protesters makes them feel in their own skin the effects of what they are doing to other, who also have families.

[justdimin]

I don't think that it's going to stop th supporters though because I am pretty sure that they're going to find ways, remember that P2P is still an option in this situation and it's going to be difficult for the government of Canada to stop that, they'll going to eventually yield to this protesters because we know and they know who's right in this situation.

It is not about stopping supporters; it is about sending a message. Canada is basically saying they could do whatever they want, even go as further as blocking the right to get the money, there could be methods to get over this of course but that doesn't change a thing. Don't get me wrong, after seeing millions upon millions of people die from covid and a horrible few years period, I would prefer if these truckers get a vaccination, that would be better and I hardly disagree with them on their stance.

However, even if I disagree with them, I would not take their freedom away when it is about finances, their "freedom" to not get vaccinated could get people killed, but their freedom to get money wouldn't, it would hurt nobody at all.

[Wind_FURY]

When a government starts trying to cancel dissent or avoid dissent is when it’s rapidly losing its moral authority to govern -Harper in 2005

https://twitter.com/justintrudeau/status/205322201187106816

Haha. Posted by Justin Trudeau during 2012. He should be supporting those truckers if he truly believed that.

Plus there are probably many people in the forum who are anti-freedom, without knowing that they are anti-freedom. This is very strange behavior for Bitcoiners to support a government that freezes the people’s assets without judicial consent.

[Similificator]

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This is just crazy. I remember seeing someone talking about this issue on tiktok a couple hours ago even featured the actual moment that the woman talked about this. This is such a low blow and a very improper way of dealing with the problem. Some may even call it childish to an extent.

- I see some saying this is where crypto comes in useful as useful. Yes, initially this can be the case but if you really think about it, choosing crypto for their funds would be a bad decision since it can be th aue of a total ban of crypto in their country just by looking at how the leader of canada reacted to this situation. If they halved their funds though making the one on the surface as decoy, then that would've been an awesome plan which they might have already did.

[Flexystar]

Seriously though, how can they see every opportunity to cease the operation which is related to the bitcoin? I thought Canadian government was very easy on the crypto currency space and allowed their investors to go with the flow. After reading this trucker donation story it seems that situation is poorly handled per se.

If government wants to stop the protest or calm down the crowd then they should be doing it differently rather than taking their money. Moreover, how do they even caught the money anyways if it was bitcoin stored and must have had private keys right ?

[tygeade]

If governments are confident the vaccines are effective, why do they have to demand sanitary passports from workers to maintain their jobs and access to their territories? Theoretically only those who denied the vaccine are going to be prejudiced, so let them live accordingly to what they believe, consequently suffering the results of their personal choices.

On the other hand, trucks' drivers can't stop and sabotage the economy of a country where majority parcel of the population endorses the vaccination (80% are vaccinated). Furthermore, it's not positive for bitcoin the fact it's being used to sponsor these protests. OP mentioned 21 bitcoins were collected. That is a lot of money! Who would be interested in funding these activities with so large amounts of money which will indeed prejudice Canada's economy?

These protests seem to have nothing to do with "freedom", it's just another political agenda being pushed up making using of bitcoin and crypto in general as tool for its shady purposes in pursuit for political power and supremacy.

I think that sanitary passports are a kind of proof to show that you have been vaccinated already. That way they can determine if who are not yet vaccinated. Not only in the Canada but this issue are also common to many other countries. They mandate the vaccine now but many people are against with it because they are also scared.

Anyway, some of us still thinks that this news in Canada where btc is involved are positive and can bring a good impact on the btc economy. Also some of us believe that there is a freedom involved here, that is again with the help of btc because donation can now went thru and government cannot do anything to stop it.

[RealMalatesta]

It is not about stopping supporters; it is about sending a message. Canada is basically saying they could do whatever they want, even go as further as blocking the right to get the money, there could be methods to get over this of course but that doesn't change a thing. Don't get me wrong, after seeing millions upon millions of people die from covid and a horrible few years period, I would prefer if these truckers get a vaccination, that would be better and I hardly disagree with them on their stance.

However, even if I disagree with them, I would not take their freedom away when it is about finances, their "freedom" to not get vaccinated could get people killed, but their freedom to get money wouldn't, it would hurt nobody at all.

It is not really about "freedom" in this case, it is about people doing something that is illegal. The fact that you would confiscate all the possession of someone who is doing something illegal existed since time has started.

If someone commits a crime, they pay for it. This isn't always jail, it could be picking litter up the road, it could be paying a fine, if you go through red light you pay a fee for it and that is basically the situation here as well. It is not about a punishment, it is about do not support people who are doing something illegal.

I know that it is not "exactly the same" but let's assume there is a group who kills people, a terrorist organization, and people sent money, wouldn't you want government to stop that? I know I would. This is the same thing, there are people who are committing a crime and getting financial help for committing that crime is not alright, even though it is a tiny crime according to many.

[Sithara007]

Glad to see that the protestors are finally warming up to Bitcoin, after GoFundMe stole more than $10 million from them. They should have considered this option much earlier. Left-wing moonbats like Justin Trudeau knows that he can do anything he want and the media would still support him. The inner city retards would still vote for him no matter how much dictatorial and authoritarian his policies are. Anyway, given the history of Trudeau I won't be surprised if he try to scuttle the Bitcoin donation drive.

[Wind_FURY]

If governments are confident the vaccines are effective, why do they have to demand sanitary passports from workers to maintain their jobs and access to their territories? Theoretically only those who denied the vaccine are going to be prejudiced, so let them live accordingly to what they believe, consequently suffering the results of their personal choices.

On the other hand, trucks' drivers can't stop and sabotage the economy of a country where majority parcel of the population endorses the vaccination (80% are vaccinated). Furthermore, it's not positive for bitcoin the fact it's being used to sponsor these protests. OP mentioned 21 bitcoins were collected. That is a lot of money! Who would be interested in funding these activities with so large amounts of money which will indeed prejudice Canada's economy?

These protests seem to have nothing to do with "freedom", it's just another political agenda being pushed up making using of bitcoin and crypto in general as tool for its shady purposes in pursuit for political power and supremacy.

I think that sanitary passports are a kind of proof to show that you have been vaccinated already. That way they can determine if who are not yet vaccinated. Not only in the Canada but this issue are also common to many other countries. They mandate the vaccine now but many people are against with it because they are also scared.

They are not “scared” of the vaccine. They are concerned because vaccine mandates are unconstitutional. What right does the government have to tell its citizens where, and where not to go because someone did, or didn’t take a vaccine?

But fake vaccine passports available to buy for Bitcoin will fix this.

Anyway, some of us still thinks that this news in Canada where btc is involved are positive and can bring a good impact on the btc economy. Also some of us believe that there is a freedom involved here, that is again with the help of btc because donation can now went thru and government cannot do anything to stop it.

It can bring good impact by being an alternative to the legacy banking system, but it will not be easy.

[macson]

So some of you might be aware about the ongoing truckers protest in Canada or so called Freedom Convoy against the fully vaccinated measures by Justin Trudeau.The truckers are protesting against this and beleive it to be monopoly and have put restrictions to their trade between the busy American-Canadian border Ambassadors Bridge.They need to be Fully vaccinated or they have to go through 14 days quarantine period which is what the protest are going for.

i am a person who supports vaccination but does not support mandatory vaccination, especially to the point of having to close the bank accounts of all truck drivers! it's really inhumane.  hopefully bitcoin adoption can happen quickly, so people can live free from authoritarian governments.

[darewaller]

They are not “scared” of the vaccine. They are concerned because vaccine mandates are unconstitutional. What right does the government have to tell its citizens where, and where not to go because someone did, or didn’t take a vaccine?

If you consider that as a problem, realize that you have been doing what the government tells you for a long time now. It may not be as clear as murder for example, of course it is not, but it is the government that tells us that we can't murder anyone, and we agreed, and since then anyone who murders anyone have been jailed, that is literally the government that decided it with the law and the cops who followed that law and caught murderers and judges who jailed those murderers as well. I understand that you may think that it is wildly different, a murderer and an anti-vaccine person is not the same in your mind, and the hurt they do is only to themselves if they get sick and die.

However, you just accepted that government can make decisions and can make you do something which is go to jail, even if you do not want to, that means government always had power over people under the laws, so if you do not follow the law, then government can seize your assets and even jail you. Not a new thing.