Why I love Bitcointalk!

[Falconer]

Despite of the fact that this forum hates spamming and trolling, but i still see a lot are doing that. But not to deny that this forum is still educative and creates facts transmission from some knowledgeable and reliable sources. The reason why i still love to stay here in bitcointalk forum. And especially for newbies, this forum will be very helpful as it teaches a lot of things that are crypto related. But still always do your part, DYOR as much as you can.

I really understand your point and the users who use this forum should have the main purpose as a place of education or learning related to bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

But it is not impossible that there are many users who live only for money without wanting to make any contribution to the forum. I've been through this period before but I started looking for other ways out and motivation to stay put and increase my contribution. I'm starting to enjoy it now and it's been getting a lot of support from other contributors.

[Etranger]

I really understand your point and the users who use this forum should have the main purpose as a place of education or learning related to bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

But it is not impossible that there are many users who live only for money without wanting to make any contribution to the forum. I've been through this period before but I started looking for other ways out and motivation to stay put and increase my contribution. I'm starting to enjoy it now and it's been getting a lot of support from other contributors.

It seems to me that over time it is becoming increasingly difficult to stay on the forum just for the money without making any contribution. Maybe some users don`t really want to do it, but due to rules that change and the behavior of other participants that is transformed by these changes, they are obliged to make some contributions. Otherwise, they can`t satisfy the desire to make money. Merit system really helps with that.

However, there are still loopholes for such members. For example, I often come across accounts that have either very little or no merit at all earned over the life of this system. But they continue to take part in signature campaigns because they have reached a certain level before the new rules were introduced. They live normally even as a full member, not to mention those who have been seniors and heros before merits were born.

[Welsh]

I don't think the forum's quality has gotten worse over time, I just think the more veteran users have forgotten what it was like many years ago, but because of the constant issues have grown tired of it eventually. Signature campaigns have been around forever, however the quality imposed by the managers (at least the main sections) has become a lot better than it was five years ago. I'd like to think that moderation has gotten better, with more moderators in key sections, and I think right now while there's a lot of spam on the forum, we've got a community that's dedicated to reporting it, which is largely a thankless task.

To me, it's quite clear that this community is far different to most others out there. The community generally wants to better itself, however there's a certain ceiling to that. We are never going to completely eradicate spam, there's going to be instances over the years where the moderators, campaign managers, and general forum user disagrees. I like to think that while theymos does get a lot of criticism for taking a long time to implement things, when he does its usually well thought out, and betters the forum to no end. For example, the merit system was revolutionary, and has prevented many of the farmed accounts getting to where they wanted, and the introduction of the bumping system in the altcoin section, has pretty much revolutionised the amount of spam users actually see.

We still have problems sure, and we'll continue to have those problems. I tend to believe we're in a better position than we was a few years ago, based on those changes alone. I think generally removing the newbie jail was a good idea, even if I was conflicted with the idea before.

However, there are still loopholes for such members. For example, I often come across accounts that have either very little or no merit at all earned over the life of this system. But they continue to take part in signature campaigns because they have reached a certain level before the new rules were introduced. They live normally even as a full member, not to mention those who have been seniors and heros before merits were born.

The altcoin campaigns have always been lower quality. You'll rarely see users participating in Bitcoin signature campaigns without actually being a decent poster. The altcoins section is a different story, mainly because they're paying you next to nothing, because they pay you with their worthless tokens, which can't be sold regardless. So, naturally only lower quality posters are interested in joining.

However, if their posting quality is that bad you can report them, and they'll likely get handled.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I love bitcointalk too but I have a question.

A fork of Bitcoin claiming to be the original Bitcoin.

The are no point to argue with a troll and respond his nonsense. These days he is now very busy to engage with people and let them get into his fake coin. Bitcoin Fake Version would do better if this would have a authentic name instead of what they have now. They could make it CS coin or whatever the fuck they wanted but they had to use the brand Bitcoin has to leverage the industry. 

We still have problems sure, and we'll continue to have those problems. I tend to believe we're in a better position than we was a few years ago, based on those changes alone. I think generally removing the newbie jail was a good idea, even if I was conflicted with the idea before.

Introducing merit is playing a vital role than it was before. Before we had many account farmers, continued posting and got ranked up. I would not say there are no account farmers now but the numbers are multiple times lesser than before. Once they find out it's not possible to rank up high then they are bound to give up. However there are some people who have always found a way to abuse the merit receiving tactics though.

[Bitcoin SV]

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The main troll here is BitcoinGirl.Club

P.S: I love bitcointalk excepting signature donkey BitcoinGirl.Club

Bitcoin Fake Version would do better if this would have a authentic name instead of what they have now. They could make it CS coin or whatever the fuck they wanted but they had to use the brand Bitcoin has to leverage the industry.  

They won't take such donkey like you even there

Envy silently, bum.

[Coyster]

We are never going to completely eradicate spam

Yes, and honestly i doubt any member of our community is hoping for that cause it is somewhat impossible, we could only possibly reduce it to a bare minimum somewhere along the line, i mean, if there is a 'multitude' of good/decent users and a couple of spam users who will prolly get most of their posts reported and maybe deleted every now and then, thus that will be just fine.

Signature campaigns have been around forever, however the quality imposed by the managers (at least the main sections) has become a lot better than it was five years ago.

Honestly signature campaign managers shoulder a lot of responsibility in the forum, some users might not notice it but they do, quite a lot of users are on a signature campaign, and many of these managers make it a criteria for the user to be a decent poster, i am pretty sure this has encouraged a lot of users to work on themselves and bolster their knowledge, so on one hand they get to learn a lot about Bitcoin, post quality stuff and then earn some 'pocket money' via signature campaigns; so campaign managers have a lot to play in the quality of posts on the forum.

[Mosharafhh]

Because it is my mother who rise me from my sleep and my lover i never sleep before see it!!  



Always happy to talk with bitcointalk forum!

[Etranger]

Honestly signature campaign managers shoulder a lot of responsibility in the forum, some users might not notice it but they do, quite a lot of users are on a signature campaign, and many of these managers make it a criteria for the user to be a decent poster, i am pretty sure this has encouraged a lot of users to work on themselves and bolster their knowledge, so on one hand they get to learn a lot about Bitcoin, post quality stuff and then earn some 'pocket money' via signature campaigns; so campaign managers have a lot to play in the quality of posts on the forum.

I do not always completely agree that signature campaigns are a source of evil, spam and incompetence on the forum. Yes, it is impossible not to notice that many users stay on the forum just for the sake of this income. But I, as a user of not very high rank yet, think that this is more typical of high rank members who before the merits of the system have received a high level and can now use it without improvement. For example, this is my first experience in the signature campaign, and when I got acquainted with the criteria, I realized that one can't get there just like that, one has to meet quite high standards. Therefore, my acceptance was a very high assessment for me, on a par with every earned merit. I think this question depends on how you feel about your work and how honestly you can evaluate your efforts. And I'm grateful to the campaign managers who set the conditions for members to improve.

[Rikafip]

I don't think the forum's quality has gotten worse over time, I just think the more veteran users have forgotten what it was like many years ago, but because of the constant issues have grown tired of it eventually.

The thing is that people tend to look at the past through rose-tinted glasses, often focusing on good memories and blocking the negative ones and same thing happens on this forum. I haven't been here long enough that I can talk about "good ol' times" but I've been on some other forums for ~20 years and I am definitely guilty of that when I look at the past. Then again, it makes sense to remember good stuff from the past better as we were younger, and on top of that its a kind of defense mechanism since dwelling on bad stuff ain't healthy at all.

You'll rarely see users participating in Bitcoin signature campaigns without actually being a decent poster

I kinda disagree with that. Situation was maybe like that ~2 years ago (I remember very good members fighting to get into lowest paid Bitcoin signature campaigns) due low amount of sig campaigns but situation now is completely different and it's a sellers market. There are way more spots in Bitcoin signature campaigns than there are decent members interested, resulting in managers lowering the bar as they have fill up the campaign.

[_BlackStar]

I kinda disagree with that. Situation was maybe like that ~2 years ago (I remember very good members fighting to get into lowest paid Bitcoin signature campaigns) due low amount of sig campaigns but situation now is completely different and it's a sellers market. There are way more spots in Bitcoin signature campaigns than there are decent members interested, resulting in managers lowering the bar as they have fill up the campaign.

I don't know how the situation was 2 years ago but maybe what you said about the current situation is true. There are places in certain campaigns filled with low-quality posters where I believe they don't have a contribution worthy of being considered a quality poster.

I don't think it's bad for marketing, but probably not very good for forums so this warning should be taken as a precaution by moderators.

Signature campaigns should be a way to reward users for quality contributions and only those that do should be paid, but at the moment it has become a way for many campaign operators to lazily and cheaply advertise their business by paying greedy users to spam whatever unsubstantial rubbish they can be bothered putting the minimal amount of effort in to and this will no longer be tolerated.

[Russlenat]

I become smart here and the knowledge that I earned from this forum changed my life big time.

Now, I'm already a businessman and focus on trading, with what I'm consistently doing, I was able to achieve financial success that I never even imagine when I was still an employee. So, I am very proud to say that I owe my success from this forum, me not knowing bitcointalk, I will still be living in my low paycheck and wrapped with never-ending debts.

[Welsh]

The thing is that people tend to look at the past through rose-tinted glasses, often focusing on good memories and blocking the negative ones and same thing happens on this forum. I haven't been here long enough that I can talk about "good ol' times" but I've been on some other forums for ~20 years and I am definitely guilty of that when I look at the past. Then again, it makes sense to remember good stuff from the past better as we were younger, and on top of that its a kind of defense mechanism since dwelling on bad stuff ain't healthy at all.

I'm not entirely sure when the good ol' days started, and ended or if they ever existed at all. One thing for sure is, we've lost a lot of good users throughout the years. However, I don't necessarily believe that's because the forum got worse, but like I suggested before older users are more prone to getting annoyed at issues which have been constant, and because we don't tend to dwell on the past (I mean these years, especially political issues people seem to have memories like goldfish, but that's another matter ) we do tend to forget about the bad, and only remember the good. That's what nostalgia does, ever go watch a movie or play a game you loved as a child? Then, when you come to play it you realise how bloody bad it is. This is usually because of passion, which creates the rose tinted glasses outlook you mentioned. I don't doubt there's a lot of passion around this forum, it's quite obvious with the amount of time users have dedicated over the years, whether that's posting, reporting, or handling trust issues, we've got a lot of users that are dedicated here.

I haven't always liked certain rules as an example, however with time I think I've come to the realisation they're implemented the way they are, because if you didn't it would open up a can of worms. For example, not moderating scams, in my early years I just couldn't get my head around it, now I can understand why. Also, I think over the years I've become a little more aware of censorship issues, and how Bitcointalk is largely a safe haven from it compared to other forums.

I kinda disagree with that. Situation was maybe like that ~2 years ago (I remember very good members fighting to get into lowest paid Bitcoin signature campaigns) due low amount of sig campaigns but situation now is completely different and it's a sellers market. There are way more spots in Bitcoin signature campaigns than there are decent members interested, resulting in managers lowering the bar as they have fill up the campaign.

I think the biggest offender recently of low quality signature campaign posters was recently halted, and there was a whole debacle over in Reputation over users not getting paid. That by far had the most spammers out of the Bitcoin paying campaigns. Since then, I generally think we're in a good place, if we aren't maybe us moderators need to be made aware of that by reporting them, as long as they're breaking forum rules of course, but generally signature spammers are.

There's always probably going to be examples, however that's why I used the word rarely. I don't think the Bitcoin paying signature campaigns, currently have widespread issues. However, if we start talking about bounties, and altcoin paying signature campaigns, that's when the problems really start to fire up. I do think something needs to be done for the latter, I just don't know what would be the best thing to implement for that, so as we stand I don't really have any suggestions.

[UmerIdrees]

However, there are still loopholes for such members. For example, I often come across accounts that have either very little or no merit at all earned over the life of this system. But they continue to take part in signature campaigns because they have reached a certain level before the new rules were introduced. They live normally even as a full member, not to mention those who have been seniors and heros before merits were born.

The altcoin campaigns have always been lower quality. You'll rarely see users participating in Bitcoin signature campaigns without actually being a decent poster. The altcoins section is a different story, mainly because they're paying you next to nothing, because they pay you with their worthless tokens, which can't be sold regardless. So, naturally only lower quality posters are interested in joining.

However, if their posting quality is that bad you can report them, and they'll likely get handled.

Yes, I don't think those ranked up users prior to the merit system have any benefit because none of the bitcoin signature campaigns will accept you if you do not possess a good amount of merits in the last 120 days. Those not so good ranked up members have to work more harder in bounties and at the end of the day may get worthless tokens. Also the good thing about bitcoin signature campaigns is that almost all of them are being run by reputed members and they accept only quality posters.

[Lubcub62]

i love being on bitcointalk because i get a lot of insight from this forum.

and if we look carefully are you aware? if the people on bitcointalk are great people with insights about their cryptocurrency that are superior to those who are not on the bitcointalk forum. because maybe crypto was born from here.

critique me if I'm wrong.

[Etranger]

i love being on bitcointalk because i get a lot of insight from this forum.

and if we look carefully are you aware? if the people on bitcointalk are great people with insights about their cryptocurrency that are superior to those who are not on the bitcointalk forum. because maybe crypto was born from here.

critique me if I'm wrong.

I am not sure we can say crypto was born from here, it is very hyperbolized. However, there is no doubt that the forum is developing in parallel with the crypto market and it is a very important addition to it. I do not think that it is possible to claim the superiority of people on the forum in relation to others because of possible insides. I think insides can be obtained in other ways. However, the forum, in my opinion, is good in this regard because it not only provides some irrespective information, but clarifies the causes and consequences of certain facts.

[Kasabus]

I've been on this forum for quite a few years (joined in 2014, but went through two large periods of inactivity) and to be honest, it has been a wonderful experience. Despite the fact that it's a great source of income, anyone who denies that is simply lying, it's also an exceptional website to gain knowledge and most importantly, ask for assistance, which will be provided selflessly, no strings attached and without risking being scammed.

I've seen exceptional people here, who were always willing to assist me without any hesitation, compared to Discord or Telegram groups for instance, which are filled with scammers willing to take advantage of you.

Indeed this forum has been my best outlet to gain more knowledge not just cryptocurrency itself, but even the important events that are currently happening. This is the reason why i always find myself scrolling down the pages in the forum that creates a day-to-day learning on my part. And to think that most of the members here are more transparent and very honest on their opinions and ideas, this makes me more eager to stay here for long. And as they always say that learning is more possible if you do it with peers, so this forum is indeed a living proof to it.

[Biscutard]

I've been on this forum for quite a few years (joined in 2014, but went through two large periods of inactivity) and to be honest, it has been a wonderful experience. Despite the fact that it's a great source of income, anyone who denies that is simply lying, it's also an exceptional website to gain knowledge and most importantly, ask for assistance, which will be provided selflessly, no strings attached and without risking being scammed.

I've seen exceptional people here, who were always willing to assist me without any hesitation, compared to Discord or Telegram groups for instance, which are filled with scammers willing to take advantage of you.

Indeed this forum has been my best outlet to gain more knowledge not just cryptocurrency itself, but even the important events that are currently happening. This is the reason why i always find myself scrolling down the pages in the forum that creates a day-to-day learning on my part. And to think that most of the members here are more transparent and very honest on their opinions and ideas, this makes me more eager to stay here for long. And as they always say that learning is more possible if you do it with peers, so this forum is indeed a living proof to it.

I find this website as a source of different learning and you can read huge span of perspectives from any kind of topics. We can't deny the fact that we're still irritated by trolls that gives negative aura. Bitcointalk gives us a very huge opportunity for us to gain money at the same time we can learn something from it. It's a win-win situation for me and I've experience a great experience discovering this platform, I have expressed my self a lot of times and it's a great diary to put some thought on it.

[uchegod-21]

• Post length doesn't matter to determine if it's spam.

I am happy to see this. I have debated this with someone here in the forum, when discussing what a shit post and a spam actually is. Spamming is concerned mainly with the essence of a particular message to the receiver not the sender. A post can be well constructed and quality of about 500 characters, but if the purpose does not fit, it is a spam. For instance, in this topic, someone drops addresses for Ukraine crypto fund and wrote about the importance of supporting Ukraine at this critical time. No matter how relevant the post might be, in this thread it could be regarded as a spam. Spamming is synonymous to off topic, while spaming might be targeting large number of people, off topic can be a particular post.

[LoyceV]

A post can be well constructed and quality of about 500 characters, but if the purpose does not fit, it is a spam.

If you can say something shortly, making the post longer makes it a shitpost. Making it longer is actually worse, because it takes the reader more time to realize he should ignore the user.
My stance:

If you can post a constructive post in 12 words, you don't need to make it longer.

Example of a short post.

[Finestream]

Why I love Bitcointalk?
I’ve been active on a lot of forums in the past but I haven't stayed anywhere as long as here.
Of course, the main reason is bitcoin, which has really changed my life, and I don't just mean the financial side.
This forum is also very informative, and much can be learned from the opinions of others.
What is also very important to me is my local community here.
We are a very good team, we have known each other for a long time, we support each other and I have met some local members in person.

This is a good thing about this forum, you can share what you learn and you can also learn what others have to share. More on a give and take learning scenario. But what made me amaze about this forum is that it does not tolerate fake news and fuds. Mostly are based on facts and experiences. And when we talk about experiences, its the best part that is more conveying and more realistic.