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February 22, 2022, 07:57:46 AM
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Hello.  I bought a bitcoin from a  exchange and the  exchang sent me the bitcoins on a payment gateway.  How do I transfer them to my wallet?  He does not answer me. I do not know why he sent me on the payment gateway.  He did not send it to my wallet.  Now I'm not at all confused.  I have to work with a programming team.  They do not know either.  The exchange said you should use Bitcoin Mixer.
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February 22, 2022, 08:01:00 AM
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This doesn't look like something a legit service would do, not from what I understood anyway. Could you please clarify some things so we can help you:

1. Which exchange did you buy from?
2. What's the name of the "payment gateway" they sent the funds to?

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February 22, 2022, 08:01:55 AM
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"a bitcoin"? How much did you pay for it?

What payment gateway is it being stored on?

How did you buy the "bitcoin" did you use a payment method you could reverse easily (and have you tried reversing it)?
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February 22, 2022, 08:34:32 AM
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Unfortunately yes.  I trusted my friend.  He bought.  And now I can not get my 20 bitcoins.  Unfortunately, I do not know anything about programming and illegal spaces.  I just know it is deposited on a port called Tour and I can not do anything.

In order to withdraw from an exchange, all you need is an address from your own wallet. No payment gateway, no mixer (unless you really want to), nothing special.
On the other hand, scammers tend to use big technical sounding words here and there to confuse newbies.

That "port called Tour" sounds like TOR to me, your friend may have been using some service over darknet.



I suggest you get in touch with your friend and clarify what he has done there, but at first reading it sounds like you may have been scammed. And 20 BTC is woah, a lot of money...

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February 22, 2022, 08:45:45 AM
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You do not need to know programming to use Bitcoin or an Exchange.  As previously said, it seems like they are using big words to make you feel stupid and helpless so that they can take advantage of you.

Could you describe step by step what happened?  How did you buy?  Do you have a name for this payment gateway that you keep mentioning, or at least the name of the Exchange they have used to buy Bitcoin for you?  If it is a legit and known Exchange, someone here will definitely know how to help you out.  I do not think Bitcoins can be deposited on 'Tor ports'.  You said you bought a Bitcoin and now you say 'your friend' bought 20 for you.  Are you sure this person is your friend or is it a stranger who said they wanted to give you Bitcoin?

In this situation it is better to post more accurate information if you want to receive the proper help.

The 'Tor port' part and them telling you that you need to work with 'a programming team' makes me believe this is a phishing attempt.

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February 22, 2022, 08:56:42 AM
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And now I can not get my 20 bitcoins.
$ 1,000 cheaper than the market.
So you paid more than $700,000 to your friend?

I sold my house.  I paid my friend to buy 20 bitcoins.
You're either incredibly dumb, or lying. I hope for your sake you're just lying. This sounds more like something a drug dealer would do to launder his money.
How did you transfer the 700,000 dollars to your "friend" and to the Darknet?

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February 22, 2022, 09:00:23 AM
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I sold my house.  I paid my friend to buy 20 bitcoins.  He bought from a place called Tour.  From an exchange called crc.  This exchange is in the dark web space.  My friend says that the exchange has transferred bitcoins to its user.  But he can not transfer from the user to the wallet.  He has assured me that he has received the bitcoins.  But from its dark web user can not transfer it to the wallet.

is this real? could you share the screenshots? the websites?
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February 22, 2022, 09:01:09 AM
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  He bought from Darknet.  To buy $ 1,000 cheaper than the market. 

Looking at the current price, it was not necessary to go to dark net ;-)

Anyway - do you know the person you gave your money? Your (maybe former) friend? How you gave him money - bank transfer? Cash?
Because if he said that he already made the transaction, he had to pay somehow.

Do you have any proof the transaction was made? If he has coins under any address, this information is public, he should be able to show it.

Or the problem is that coins are on his account in exchange and he cannot withdraw them? May he clarify what is the problem?
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February 22, 2022, 09:09:15 AM
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I think 'your friend' is the one who scammed you and not the Exchange.  How the hell would they otherwise accept two thirds of a million and use them on a website they have no idea how to use?

This is how Exchanges work. For Instant Exchanges, you send the money and it automatically sends the coins to your wallet.  For non Instant Exchanges, you deposit the money, make the exchange yourself and then you withdraw.  Simple as that.  No gateways, no Mixers, no complications.

Do you have an Onion link to the CRC Exchange?  You still have not told us the name of the payment gateway.

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February 22, 2022, 09:19:22 AM
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Payment gateway.  Contract with a dark net Exchange.  Bitcoin $1,000 cheaper than spot.  Exchange 'office'.  You need to work with a programming team to get your Bitcoin.  For 'privacy', your 'friend' can not send you any proof.  They can not withdraw the money from an Exchange they have a contract with?

You got scammed, buddy.  Or you are trolling, which I hope is the case.

If this is all real, then it is mind boggling how you complicated everything and got scammed for a 'discount' of under 3%.  This is a percentage Bitcoin can move in an hour.

Anyway.  If this is all real, then report your 'friend' to the authorities because to me it is clear that your $700,000 are now gone.

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He has a contract with an exchange that includes privacy and he can not give me information.  No screenshots, no contracts, no transfers, but I saw that he has 20 bitcoins in his user.

I have a strange feeling that it is a different kind of contract - 50/50 and we don't know each other.

Lesson - if you want to invest a serious amount, it is better to spend some time and learn about things you want to do. You do not buy car without research, you do not buy house without research, but you buy bitcoins worth house+car. Why you did not use the exchange yourself? Why "dark net", not the normal one? For 1k? 1k from 40k is 2.5%. 2.5% is very often daily change of bitcoin...

Ah, and you know - there is also POLICE, but I guess you do not have any contract with your friend, you just send him your money.
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He has a contract with an exchange that includes privacy and he can not give me information.  No screenshots, no contracts, no transfers, but I saw that he has 20 bitcoins in his user.

Are you aware that it's super easy to create a web page that shows like it would have 20 BTC in an account?
However, it doesn't matter. If a Bitcoin withdrawal has been made, it is recorded on the blockchain and it has a transaction ID like (I've just looked up randomly for a transaction) :
5c0aa063e9b922e9cb5afef046caf03371ae5ea9340d85dad3948a25e9ffe5ba

Even more: do you actually have a Bitcoin wallet? To what address were you supposed to get those coins? A Bitcoin address looks like one of these (again, random addresses, please don't use) :
1BvBMSEYstWetqTFn5Au4m4GFg7xJaNVN2
3J98t1WpEZ73CNmQviecrnyiWrnqRhWNLy
bc1qar0srrr7xfkvy5l643lydnw9re59gtzzwf5mdq

You seem to be in the middle of a story you have no idea about. At all. If you were not even asked for an address, then how you would expect to receive anything back?!


My country is a sanctioned country.  I could not access the money changers.  In my country, everything is boycotted, even breathing.

Knowledge too? I see that now you are here. Why didn't you come here and learn a little before sending $700k into the unknown?

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In my country, this house is a very small house in a normal place.
To be clear: how much did you pay him?

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I gave him the money through the bank.
Doesn't such an amount set off all kinds of alarm bells at the bank?

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He took the money to the dark web space. There he gave the money to an exchange office.
How exactly did he do this? The dark web is not a place where people use their own bank accounts, they use money mules.

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The exchange has transferred bitcoins to him on his user.  A kind of payment gateway.  My friend himself does not know how to transfer them.
Why do you ask someone who doesn't know what he's doing to buy Bitcoin for you? And why did you trust him to do this?

He has a contract with an exchange that includes privacy and he can not give me information.
You got scammed. Go to the police. Both of you have a lot of explaining to do.

My country is a sanctioned country.  I could not access the money changers.  In my country, everything is boycotted, even breathing.
So you tried to do something illegal, someone took advantage of you, and now you can't do anything because you'll end up in jail. Sounds like the perfect crime, except for the bank transfer that leaves a paper trail.

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We are not sprinkling salt on your wound, this is more like a reality check.  Your 'friend' has had two thirds of a million supposedly stuck in an exchange for a month.  Open your eyes wide and be real for once.  What is next?  You have to pay the 'programming team' to help you out?  Your 'friend' is still in contact with you because they know you have a ton of money they can milk.

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February 22, 2022, 09:49:09 AM
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please help

You don't really offer info, so I don't think that you can realistically get more help in here.
As just said, all we can do now is to contain/limit the damage, since you may be targeted with a wider scam.
And we are not making fun of your sadness. We try to offer you a cold shower to help you wake up to the actual reality.

Get your friend and see overview in detail every step you've done, maybe you can follow the fiat. When you have significantly more info you may have a chance for more help, although I think that:
1. You've got scammed and if crypto is prohibited in your country you may not stand a chance to recover your loses.
2. You are not telling us the whole story/truth. A small house in a normal place usually worth much less than 20 BTC. I may be overly generous even with 5 BTC.

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February 22, 2022, 11:54:24 AM
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I gave him the money through the bank.  He took the money to the dark web space. There he gave the money to an exchange office.  The exchange has transferred bitcoins to him on his user.  A kind of payment gateway.  My friend himself does not know how to transfer them.

So up to this point, the exchange has transferred 20BTC to your friend's account which he doesn't know how to use, correct? I still doubt that your friend got real BTC from that exchange and the exchange office he visited is a permanent office. As for the privacy contract between your friend and the exchange, we're talking 20BTC ($750k today) that you should have involved into the contract.

I don't know how close you are to your friends, but to me there is no reliable friend when it comes to big money.

By the way, why don't you also ask your friend to come here to explain the situation?

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February 23, 2022, 10:59:11 AM
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Hi guys.  I realized the problem.  My friend can't transfer bitcoins because he's worried his IP will be leaked on the Dark Web.  Is there a secure wallet on the Dark Web that transfers my bitcoins to it, and then transfers it to my wallet?
Or a method that can be transferred from the Dark Web to the wallet without leaving a trace.  I will send a gift to anyone who guides me.  My friend has been driving me crazy for a month.

I think that he's lying to you. If used correctly a wallet is not tied to an IP. A wallet software can be used under ToR, whether it's Electrum or Bitcoin Core. Probably others too.
Do you have your own wallet you safely generated only you know its seed or private key? No.

After the money have arrived to your own address in your own wallet, we can easily teach you mix those coins if you want to, losing the trace between the coins you've received to your initial address and the coins you'll get to new addresses. But that's not so much necessary and that would complicate the things now. Let's leave that to a second step. First get money under your control. For now I think that your "friend" is making up excuses.

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February 23, 2022, 12:27:51 PM
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My friend can't transfer bitcoins because he's worried his IP will be leaked on the Dark Web.
"The Dark web" runs through Tor, which is designed to keep your IP private. Making up stories about leaking IP addresses sounds like something a scammer would say to put up a smoke curtain.

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Or a method that can be transferred from the Dark Web to the wallet without leaving a trace.
There's a problem with this description: there are no Bitcoins "on the Dark web", Bitcoins are on the blockchain.

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My friend has been driving me crazy for a month.
You should probably reconsider calling him a "friend".

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I realized the problem.
Nope. The real problem is they're scamming you.

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February 23, 2022, 12:57:57 PM
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Unfortunately yes.  I trusted my friend.  He bought.  And now I can not get my 20 bitcoins.  Unfortunately, I do not know anything about programming and illegal spaces.  I just know it is deposited on a port called Tour and I can not do anything.

Oh man! It's huge amount and just for $1000 cheap you you bet your half million dolllar in risk.

Tell your friend  to sell it another buyer or purchase something worth of your money.
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