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February 23, 2022, 10:33:01 PM
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Shouldn't the tax in this case be of income tax type rather than being capital gain tax type if they are accepting "payment" in cryptocurrency?

Income tax applies when you receive money in the form of income, for example, you do some work and get paid in Bitcoin. You mine Bitcoin, what you receive is considered income. Etc. Basically income is roughly when you receive money in exchange of goods or services.

Capital gains tax apply when your capital (Bitcoin) has a higher value when you dispose of it (sell, use, pay with it, etc) than when you acquired it (bought it, received it as income, etc).

Therefore if you're paying something with Bitcoin, in the eyes of the tax man you're basically selling it for USD, and getting the benefits of it's increased value, which is the capital gain.

Note that you don't get taxed twice (income and capital gain). You first pay income tax if applicable, and then capital gains are considered from that amount of $ up. If the price remained the same, then there's no capital gains tax.

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February 24, 2022, 06:37:47 AM
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Without this bill,,, it was not illegal anyway to do that right? Or do I understand that actually for state services, it was only possible to accept us dollar? Because it does not make sense Coinbase is legal in USA and advertising everywhere including on Wall Street and yet you need to legalize allowing to pay for state services in Bitcoin.

It was just not possible, you would have to first sell Bitcoin for USD, and then pay the tax with that USD.

This bill basically streamlines that process, as you just send Bitcoin directly.

Think of this as a place that now accepts credit cards, and before only accepted cash.

So even with Coinbase app which it seems on Twitter and reddit a lot of Americans are doing, when they are paying for it,,, this is actually all just allowing them to sell Bitcoin for USD and then using the dollars to pay? I all the time thought people were paying Coinbase with BTC. I know it is not even real Bitcoin as in not on chain,,, but I thought so. 

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February 24, 2022, 10:14:00 AM
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Senator Sydney Kamlager from California has recently filed bill 1275, which states:

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A state agency may accept cryptocurrency as a method of payment for the provision of government services.

It seems that there is a momentum building in the US, after Colorado started moving into this path earlier this year.
Now cryptocurrency is not a hallucination in the era of digitization, the fact many countries have accepted the presence of Bitcoin, This makes the cryptocurrency market more attractive to the public. The millennial generation also has high hopes for cryptocurrency as an investment medium, because they believe investing in cryptocurrency are more profitable than buying stocks and gold.
Now that we have seen how the world reacts to cryptocurrency, if cryptocurrency adoption continues to grow, then the next question When did cryptocurrency become a transaction toolHuh This question will soon be answered with the passage of time.

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February 25, 2022, 04:42:49 PM
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Now cryptocurrency is not a hallucination in the era of digitization, the fact many countries have accepted the presence of Bitcoin, This makes the cryptocurrency market more attractive to the public. The millennial generation also has high hopes for cryptocurrency as an investment medium, because they believe investing in cryptocurrency are more profitable than buying stocks and gold.
Now that we have seen how the world reacts to cryptocurrency, if cryptocurrency adoption continues to grow, then the next question When did cryptocurrency become a transaction toolHuh This question will soon be answered with the passage of time.
Your last question, I didn’t really get that Huh Undecided Like who on earth doesn’t know that the main purpose of bitcoin is being a decentralized peer-to-peer method of exchange or transfer? Bitcoin was created to be a method of transaction, that’s the first thing before we start talking about this investment of a thing.

Yes, it is a good investment to make, and millennials are deeply into because they enjoy what they are getting from it, that is really good thing about Bitcoin. But it serves different purposes, there are also those who are using it for transactions, there are many people around the world who do.

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February 26, 2022, 04:30:39 PM
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Not bad. I mean, El Salvador has done something like that, wouldn’t be bad for other countries to follow up with the same thing. I would love to see this happen, people who provide government services should be able to accept their payment in Bitcoin if they want to. Although I am not saying like it’s something that needs to be done like really bad, but it would be cool if it’s going to be happening.

If there would be much other people in the house who would strongly support this bill that he has filled, I believe that it will likely be something that would be a success. If not, then it’s just not going to work out. There needs to be other people there that has the same mindset, that’s the only this is working.
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