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February 25, 2022, 02:41:12 PM
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Although we don't want this to happen in our lives, it is happening in a bad way. I've tried to learn about world history and look at conflicts, and there's a lot of things that are being repeated about the economic conflicts of interests of nations, outbreaks of diseases, wars... it's hard to judge who is right and wrong when all sides have their own views, but war is the worst way to make a new beginning  Sad
As a regular individuals yes, we don't want this to happen because wars is a scary thing to us, it can destroy lives and the market but there are people that want this to happen, they are the higher authorities like the governments and the military forces. Wars are just wars and I don't think diseases are related to it but they are more natural and I don't believe that someone can create it and spread it.

It can be that both of them are right because why would they start a war? A war can mean that one of them wont agree with the other. I am not really into this issue and haven't done a research yet but I heard that Russia is being often blamed so maybe it was Russia's fault? But, yeah war is not an immediate solution to fix that.

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February 25, 2022, 03:52:24 PM
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As at recent, i heard the US sent about 7000 soldiers and am sure its has nothing to impact on the 100,000 soldiers Russia has mounted while the NATO combined forces too can sound a little significant but only if China could join the war against Russia is when i think more hope can be emancipated, but even as at now, China remain mute about the issue. I hope at the end it will cost Russia than it will pays them for haven taken such a move.



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February 25, 2022, 06:00:18 PM
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As at recent, i heard the US sent about 7000 soldiers and am sure its has nothing to impact on the 100,000 soldiers Russia has mounted while the NATO combined forces too can sound a little significant but only if China could join the war against Russia is when i think more hope can be emancipated, but even as at now, China remain mute about the issue. I hope at the end it will cost Russia than it will pays them for haven taken such a move.
I actually hope that both countries can contain their emotions more to avoid a lot of destruction on both sides, from some media that I read, now more than 300 people have become victims of the Russian invasion and most of them are civilians. I think if NATO also joins ukraine of course the war will get worse in my opinion, even though nato has a desire to help ukraine but still i doubt if they do not have their own interests in this matter, I think it is time for the UN to act to establish dialogue between the two countries and at least the UN can stop a bigger war from happening.

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February 25, 2022, 06:18:54 PM
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As more market uncertainty arises due to the possibility of a war, probably expect more draw-downs across the board(stocks, crypto). It doesn't help that Putin is apparently going bollocks. I mean, those statements just gives me chills.  Imo it's the season to be defensive, rather than to make as much gains as possible, with altcoins being a really really bad pick.

With that said, prayers and best wishes to our Ukranian friends. Stay safe.


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February 26, 2022, 02:10:25 AM
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I'm sorry, but maybe my family and I will die tomorrow if the world does nothing, so
Ban Russia from SWIFT! Protect Ukrainian Sky! Send NATO to Ukraine! #BanRussiafromSwift #CloseTheSky #SendNatoToUkraine
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I don't know if you're trolling or you're for real but nonetheless, I'll send my thoughts and prayers to you. Also, if you're a civilian, you should start evacuating already because you're life is more important than what you have right now, you're call won't be heard though, pretty sure that no one in this forum has the authority to ban Russia from SWIFT or even send NATO to Ukraine, remember that International politics is all about balancing the scales without letting the doomsday clock strike at midnight. Even though I'm not from Ukraine, I am scared in this war, with Russia as the main player, they can easily escalate this war into a nuclear one.
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February 26, 2022, 03:05:41 AM
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I am watching the news and there seems to be few reports of organized resistance from the Ukrainians. The Russians are slowly proceeding with their plan, without facing much resistance. They have either encircled or taken control of major cities such as Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernigov, Melitopol and Kherson. A large part of the Ukrainian army seems to have either surrendered or melted away. The Ukrainian government has claimed that they have killed hundreds, or even thousands of Russian troops. But I really doubt whether a single Russian soldier has been killed inside Ukraine.

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As at recent, i heard the US sent about 7000 soldiers and am sure its has nothing to impact on the 100,000 soldiers Russia has mounted while the NATO combined forces too can sound a little significant but only if China could join the war against Russia is when i think more hope can be emancipated, but even as at now, China remain mute about the issue. I hope at the end it will cost Russia than it will pays them for haven taken such a move.
I actually hope that both countries can contain their emotions more to avoid a lot of destruction on both sides, from some media that I read, now more than 300 people have become victims of the Russian invasion and most of them are civilians. I think if NATO also joins ukraine of course the war will get worse in my opinion, even though nato has a desire to help ukraine but still i doubt if they do not have their own interests in this matter, I think it is time for the UN to act to establish dialogue between the two countries and at least the UN can stop a bigger war from happening.

Correct me but I don't think that NATO will interfere with what is happening right now because they aren't in a position to do it.
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO so why they will try to help them? I mean I don't understand why will they help a country that they aren't allied at first place.

I've watched a video saying that US will not interfere with what is happening but they already gave sanctions to Russia. If NATO will involve themselves in this war, then it will be a disaster because more countries will try and join the war and we know what will happen next after it so its better if they will just remain silent. We already know what will happen. We know what are the capabilities of Russians with regards to war. They are one of the top if not the top in terms of military forces. Still, its very sad to see that people whether civilians or soldiers are dying because of war. In a war, death is inevitable that is why there are no benefits in a war  Cry.

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I live in Ukraine. According to the news, at 4:30 am today, Putin gave the order to attack Ukraine. The attack took place on the side of the Russian border, as well as on the side of the Belarusian border. Explosions are shown in different cities of Ukraine, as well as Kiev. They hit airports, ammunition depots and other critical infrastructure. The armed forces of Ukraine entered the battle. Let's see what happens next.
We have just heard that a Russian fighter jet has been shot down over Ukraine.
This is too bad to hear..Hopefully the situation between Russia and Ukraine will be resolved as quickly as soon as possible..So the people can continue to live normally with their friends and family.

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I live in Ukraine. According to the news, at 4:30 am today, Putin gave the order to attack Ukraine. The attack took place on the side of the Russian border, as well as on the side of the Belarusian border. Explosions are shown in different cities of Ukraine, as well as Kiev. They hit airports, ammunition depots and other critical infrastructure. The armed forces of Ukraine entered the battle. Let's see what happens next.
We have just heard that a Russian fighter jet has been shot down over Ukraine.
This is too bad to hear..Hopefully the situation between Russia and Ukraine will be resolved as quickly as soon as possible..So the people can continue to live normally with their friends and family.


That is unlikely to happen for now as Putin is very firm in his decision that this war could no longer be stopped anymore once he started in. And i think Putin knew that this would happen the moment Ukraine has become an ally to US because its always US that will create a war between two countries but in reality, this US country is very afraid to go on a war. So Putin has planned this already before. And knowing the fact that Russia is a supplier of strong armed weapons, that will totally beat Ukraine this time.

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They may likely more down trend direction in the coming weeks if the invasion by the Russian government continue in Ukraine. No one expected this kind of a thing in this 21st century but to commentators are saying that the body language of the Russian in some weeks ago should have made people to know nothing can stop this invasion. But it is unfortunate that the Ukrainians are experiencing this because they want freedom.
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I live in Ukraine. According to the news, at 4:30 am today, Putin gave the order to attack Ukraine. The attack took place on the side of the Russian border, as well as on the side of the Belarusian border. Explosions are shown in different cities of Ukraine, as well as Kiev. They hit airports, ammunition depots and other critical infrastructure. The armed forces of Ukraine entered the battle. Let's see what happens next.
We have just heard that a Russian fighter jet has been shot down over Ukraine.
This is too bad to hear..Hopefully the situation between Russia and Ukraine will be resolved as quickly as soon as possible..So the people can continue to live normally with their friends and family.


That is unlikely to happen for now as Putin is very firm in his decision that this war could no longer be stopped anymore once he started in. And i think Putin knew that this would happen the moment Ukraine has become an ally to US because its always US that will create a war between two countries but in reality, this US country is very afraid to go on a war. So Putin has planned this already before. And knowing the fact that Russia is a supplier of strong armed weapons, that will totally beat Ukraine this time.

I am wondering what Russia will do to Germany and other neighboring countries, now that Germany is helping the armaments of Ukraine. Because Putin said that those who will interfere will face consequences. Definitely, Putin has been preparing for this long time ago. He won't go at war not prepared. He knows what he's getting into. A savage move during this 21st century. Maybe, Russians should throw out from his leadership. Putin has a different mindset. They need a younger blood to change this kind of thinking. Let Ukraine live in democracy.
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Putin has completely lost it probably because he doesn't want to see Ukraine overtake them in the future in terms of power etc. Just checked the news several minutes ago and he ordered his army to resume offensive in a barbaric manner.

Other countries aren't joining the war primarily because they don't want this war to turn into WW3 which makes sense, but Ukraine is screwed in the process.

The world was slowly and steadily recovering from the COVID threat in recent years and now this happens. Ukraine is putting up a brave stand currently, but the only way to settle this issue effectively is through diplomatic negotiations.

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As more market uncertainty arises due to the possibility of a war, probably expect more draw-downs across the board(stocks, crypto). It doesn't help that Putin is apparently going bollocks. I mean, those statements just gives me chills.  Imo it's the season to be defensive, rather than to make as much gains as possible, with altcoins being a really really bad pick.

With that said, prayers and best wishes to our Ukranian friends. Stay safe.


 




The war impact was not only on the country. But it was a impact in the crytocurrency. Most of the coin get into the year least reduction in a few months.The price of bitcoin was reduced in a huge manner.The price variation in a short period should be used for the investment in the coin.All should parallel pray for the Ukraine people.



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I am actually surprise that despite the crisis, Bitcoin and the other cryptocurrencies haven't gone up similar to the case with gold, platinum, silver and other bullion metals. Ideally people would prefer liquid assets that are protected against inflation when such a crisis occurs. But the Bitcoin exchange rate has actually gone down, ever since the invasion started in 24th February. In fact, the prices nosedived by more than 10% when the news about the invasion first came out. Can anyone explain why this happened?

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Putin has completely lost it probably because he doesn't want to see Ukraine overtake them in the future in terms of power etc. Just checked the news several minutes ago and he ordered his army to resume offensive in a barbaric manner.

Other countries aren't joining the war primarily because they don't want this war to turn into WW3 which makes sense, but Ukraine is screwed in the process.

The world was slowly and steadily recovering from the COVID threat in recent years and now this happens. Ukraine is putting up a brave stand currently, but the only way to settle this issue effectively is through diplomatic negotiations.
I do not agree with your statement that Ukraine screwed up and the only way out for it is diplomatic negotiations. The Putin regime has miscalculated by attacking Ukraine and throwing about a hundred thousand of its troops and a lot of armored vehicles at it from three sides.
The barbaric attack quickly united the Ukrainians and raised the patriotic spirit to unprecedented heights. We must pay tribute, the NATO countries are now helping Ukraine a lot with weapons, but the Ukrainians are now actively using home-made Molotov cocktails, burning the armor and military power of Russia.
Thus, during the four days of the Russian invasion, according to official data from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the Ukrainians destroyed about 5,300 invaders, 191 tanks, 29 combat aircraft, 29 attack helicopters, 816 armored vehicles, 74 cannons, 21 Grad multiple rocket launchers, 291 vehicles.
The enemy is now in a panic and completely demoralized. Although peace talks are now starting at Putin's suggestion, Ukraine is not going to make any concessions, and the current situation, on the contrary, allows it to speak from a position of strength.

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Correct me but I don't think that NATO will interfere with what is happening right now because they aren't in a position to do it.
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO so why they will try to help them? I mean I don't understand why will they help a country that they aren't allied at first place.

If countries feel threatened by all the war threats Putin is doing don't you think they have the right to do so?
Didn't Russia attack in the first place because it felt "threatened"?
Guess what , karma!

We know what are the capabilities of Russians with regards to war. They are one of the top if not the top in terms of military forces.

Yeah, we've seen it.
Tanks without gas, without ammo, soldiers robbing stores and begging for gas and food, convoys after convoys getting annihilated by drones, the mighty S400 that can't shoot down anything, the invisible T14 armada which is the first 87723rd generation tank, the also really invisible pak50...

Everyone is laughing their asses of what Russia is doing, you have 200k soldiers, two months to prepare near the border, and the capital of your enemy at just 300km from the border and you aren't able to cripple the single nation that is poorer than you in Europe.
The Russian army myth is busted and good only to wipe the tears of the Russian propaganda.

I am watching the news and there seems to be few reports of organized resistance from the Ukrainians. The Russians are slowly proceeding with their plan, without facing much resistance. They have either encircled or taken control of major cities such as Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernigov, Melitopol and Kherson. A large part of the Ukrainian army seems to have either surrendered or melted away. The Ukrainian government has claimed that they have killed hundreds, or even thousands of Russian troops. But I really doubt whether a single Russian soldier has been killed inside Ukraine.

Lol, and that like two days ago, how it is possible that even by now nothing you claim has happened?
The miracles of Saint Javelin?

I am wondering what Russia will do to Germany and other neighboring countries,

Suck our...that's the only thing left for him.

He has been lied to and his ego didn't allow him to see the reality, his country si c gas station without gas.
The ruble is down the drain, the stock market didn't open, companies are forced to liquidate their foreign cash reserves to try to keep the ruble alive, companies after companies are blocking contracts and supplies to Russia, companies are exiting Russia, the banking system is on life support.

Oh, and the reserves, the famous 600 billion reserves, suddenly there are only 200 billion of them cause, unlike how some picture world fiances to work, in real life fx reserves are not stored under the chief of the bank and other leader's mattress.
In order for reserves to work, they have to be stored where it matters, Zimbabwe won't get a loan because it claims it has 100 trillion in some Sechelels account, and guess where was the major part of those 600 billion stored?





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March 02, 2022, 08:51:24 AM
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Putin has completely lost it probably because he doesn't want to see Ukraine overtake them in the future in terms of power etc. Just checked the news several minutes ago and he ordered his army to resume offensive in a barbaric manner.

Other countries aren't joining the war primarily because they don't want this war to turn into WW3 which makes sense, but Ukraine is screwed in the process.

The world was slowly and steadily recovering from the COVID threat in recent years and now this happens. Ukraine is putting up a brave stand currently, but the only way to settle this issue effectively is through diplomatic negotiations.
I do not agree with your statement that Ukraine screwed up and the only way out for it is diplomatic negotiations. The Putin regime has miscalculated by attacking Ukraine and throwing about a hundred thousand of its troops and a lot of armored vehicles at it from three sides.
The barbaric attack quickly united the Ukrainians and raised the patriotic spirit to unprecedented heights. We must pay tribute, the NATO countries are now helping Ukraine a lot with weapons, but the Ukrainians are now actively using home-made Molotov cocktails, burning the armor and military power of Russia.
Thus, during the four days of the Russian invasion, according to official data from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the Ukrainians destroyed about 5,300 invaders, 191 tanks, 29 combat aircraft, 29 attack helicopters, 816 armored vehicles, 74 cannons, 21 Grad multiple rocket launchers, 291 vehicles.
The enemy is now in a panic and completely demoralized. Although peace talks are now starting at Putin's suggestion, Ukraine is not going to make any concessions, and the current situation, on the contrary, allows it to speak from a position of strength.
the path of peace and diplomacy between the two countries will be better considering that currently the world is currently rising together from the plague that hit to affect all fields. war will only bring human misery in the end, and of course we must prioritize humanity by peaceful means and diplomacy, for me no one wins or loses at the end of the war, because both are the same as fixing their country from destruction during war
I hope so and however many people speak out for peace for both sides at war,
If this war continues any longer, it will cause many casualties, even more so on civilians who do not know anything.
I hope that the top brass of the two countries can soon reach an agreement on diplomacy

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Ukraine should stop all her dilly dally with the West and sue for peace with Russia by first recognizing the independence of the two breakaway nations then stopping all acts of aggression towards them.
If they had done this from the onset, there would have been no reason for Russia to invade them.
But no, they listened to the USA, UK, France and the rest of NATO, forgetting that it's Ukrainian blood that is being spilt in this futile and senseless venture.

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Ukraine should stop all her dilly dally with the West and sue for peace with Russia by first recognizing the independence of the two breakaway nations then stopping all acts of aggression towards them.
If they had done this from the onset, there would have been no reason for Russia to invade them.
But no, they listened to the USA, UK, France and the rest of NATO, forgetting that it's Ukrainian blood that is being spilt in this futile and senseless venture.
I think that what you say is very cruel, but if it makes a lot of sense, honestly, as the president of Ukraine, I would say, I give up, but if they guarantee me that they will not kill any Ukrainian citizen, I would do this out of love for my compatriots and that they do not continue to die unjustly and that the deaths of children stop, I would let them elect a new president as long as he ends all civilian lives, I think he would not see it as an act of cowardice, but as an act of love towards my country and above all of love towards the people of a town that is suffering a lot.

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Ukraine should stop all her dilly dally with the West and sue for peace with Russia by first recognizing the independence of the two breakaway nations then stopping all acts of aggression towards them.
If they had done this from the onset, there would have been no reason for Russia to invade them.
But no, they listened to the USA, UK, France and the rest of NATO, forgetting that it's Ukrainian blood that is being spilt in this futile and senseless venture.
I think that what you say is very cruel, but if it makes a lot of sense, honestly, as the president of Ukraine, I would say, I give up, but if they guarantee me that they will not kill any Ukrainian citizen, I would do this out of love for my compatriots and that they do not continue to die unjustly and that the deaths of children stop, I would let them elect a new president as long as he ends all civilian lives, I think he would not see it as an act of cowardice, but as an act of love towards my country and above all of love towards the people of a town that is suffering a lot.

No, your proposals mean the loss of Ukraine's independence, its language, way of life, customs, forced Russification, humiliation, and everything else. This will not be a manifestation of love for your people, but its complete destruction. Ukrainians fully understand this and therefore give a resolute rebuff to the invaders. Russian soldiers find only their death on the territory of Ukraine. Russia will never conquer or enslave Ukraine.

Russia has already lost more than 50,000 of its soldiers (more than 12 thousand killed, more than 35 thousand wounded, about 3 thousand prisoners),
- 389 tanks,
- 1249 armored vehicles,
- 77 aircraft,
- 90 helicopters,
- 150 artillery systems,
- 64 salvo fire systems,
- 617 different vehicles and much more.

Ukraine is confidently grinding Russia's military power, and the Kremlin has already understood this. Together with sanctions, this will lead Russia itself to death and disintegration. The sooner Putin is eliminated or removed from power, the less tangible will be the losses for the Russians. However, the consequences of this war will be felt for many generations.

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