Russia - Ukraine | War imminent?

[LUCKMCFLY]

Ukraine should stop all her dilly dally with the West and sue for peace with Russia by first recognizing the independence of the two breakaway nations then stopping all acts of aggression towards them.
If they had done this from the onset, there would have been no reason for Russia to invade them.
But no, they listened to the USA, UK, France and the rest of NATO, forgetting that it's Ukrainian blood that is being spilt in this futile and senseless venture.

I think that what you say is very cruel, but if it makes a lot of sense, honestly, as the president of Ukraine, I would say, I give up, but if they guarantee me that they will not kill any Ukrainian citizen, I would do this out of love for my compatriots and that they do not continue to die unjustly and that the deaths of children stop, I would let them elect a new president as long as he ends all civilian lives, I think he would not see it as an act of cowardice, but as an act of love towards my country and above all of love towards the people of a town that is suffering a lot.

No, your proposals mean the loss of Ukraine's independence, its language, way of life, customs, forced Russification, humiliation, and everything else. This will not be a manifestation of love for your people, but its complete destruction. Ukrainians fully understand this and therefore give a resolute rebuff to the invaders. Russian soldiers find only their death on the territory of Ukraine. Russia will never conquer or enslave Ukraine.

Russia has already lost more than 50,000 of its soldiers (more than 12 thousand killed, more than 35 thousand wounded, about 3 thousand prisoners),
- 389 tanks,
- 1249 armored vehicles,
- 77 aircraft,
- 90 helicopters,
- 150 artillery systems,
- 64 salvo fire systems,
- 617 different vehicles and much more.

Ukraine is confidently grinding Russia's military power, and the Kremlin has already understood this. Together with sanctions, this will lead Russia itself to death and disintegration. The sooner Putin is eliminated or removed from power, the less tangible will be the losses for the Russians. However, the consequences of this war will be felt for many generations.

What I most look forward to is that the innocents stop dying, because they are attacking hospitals, children die daily, sometimes the figures you handle are very good, but Russia is asking the Chinese army for help, and China will obviously support it, no I know in which part it is that they are bombed about 25km from Poland, if at least one explosion falls in Poland this would generate a greater conflict, because it would be a total devastation, not only of Ukraine but it is the total announcement of the third world war and that in no part of the world there would be no escape, sometimes it is not to be alarmist, but these things can be avoided.

[Tony116]

Ukraine should stop all her dilly dally with the West and sue for peace with Russia by first recognizing the independence of the two breakaway nations then stopping all acts of aggression towards them.
If they had done this from the onset, there would have been no reason for Russia to invade them.
But no, they listened to the USA, UK, France and the rest of NATO, forgetting that it's Ukrainian blood that is being spilt in this futile and senseless venture.

I think that what you say is very cruel, but if it makes a lot of sense, honestly, as the president of Ukraine, I would say, I give up, but if they guarantee me that they will not kill any Ukrainian citizen, I would do this out of love for my compatriots and that they do not continue to die unjustly and that the deaths of children stop, I would let them elect a new president as long as he ends all civilian lives, I think he would not see it as an act of cowardice, but as an act of love towards my country and above all of love towards the people of a town that is suffering a lot.

No, your proposals mean the loss of Ukraine's independence, its language, way of life, customs, forced Russification, humiliation, and everything else. This will not be a manifestation of love for your people, but its complete destruction. Ukrainians fully understand this and therefore give a resolute rebuff to the invaders. Russian soldiers find only their death on the territory of Ukraine. Russia will never conquer or enslave Ukraine.

Russia has already lost more than 50,000 of its soldiers (more than 12 thousand killed, more than 35 thousand wounded, about 3 thousand prisoners),
- 389 tanks,
- 1249 armored vehicles,
- 77 aircraft,
- 90 helicopters,
- 150 artillery systems,
- 64 salvo fire systems,
- 617 different vehicles and much more.

Ukraine is confidently grinding Russia's military power, and the Kremlin has already understood this. Together with sanctions, this will lead Russia itself to death and disintegration. The sooner Putin is eliminated or removed from power, the less tangible will be the losses for the Russians. However, the consequences of this war will be felt for many generations.

What I most look forward to is that the innocents stop dying, because they are attacking hospitals, children die daily, sometimes the figures you handle are very good, but Russia is asking the Chinese army for help, and China will obviously support it, no I know in which part it is that they are bombed about 25km from Poland, if at least one explosion falls in Poland this would generate a greater conflict, because it would be a total devastation, not only of Ukraine but it is the total announcement of the third world war and that in no part of the world there would be no escape, sometimes it is not to be alarmist, but these things can be avoided.

China denies it has received a request for military assistance from Russia, I don't think Russia will rely on China militarily.
China was the country that abstained at the United Nations General Assembly against Russia, but that doesn't mean it will help Russia militarily. President Xi Jinping understands that openly helping Russia is no different than going against the world and that they will be isolated like Russia, even as you said that would spark a 3rd world war.
The war will not end anytime soon but I hope that further negotiations will bring new steps towards opening up a humanitarian corridor for the migrants to avoid loss of life. It was only the citizens who suffered during the war. Praying for everyone's peace.

[sana54210]

China denies it has received a request for military assistance from Russia, I don't think Russia will rely on China militarily.
China was the country that abstained at the United Nations General Assembly against Russia, but that doesn't mean it will help Russia militarily. President Xi Jinping understands that openly helping Russia is no different than going against the world and that they will be isolated like Russia, even as you said that would spark a 3rd world war.
The war will not end anytime soon but I hope that further negotiations will bring new steps towards opening up a humanitarian corridor for the migrants to avoid loss of life. It was only the citizens who suffered during the war. Praying for everyone's peace.

Abstain is also not equal to supporting. If they wanted to clearly be on their side, they would have not just abstained, but they would have been on Russia's side and support them with their vote. They did not, which is a proof enough that they do not want to side with Russia on this one.

I mean, don't get me wrong they definitely feel closer to Russia than Ukraine and they do not care if Russia wins and kills and destroys Ukraine, they just do not want to be part of it. This is different from the west, west do not want to get involved militarily but they are at least siding with Ukraine, China is not doing that with Russia at the moment.

[Sebas.tian]

The truth is that at this point Russia cannot demilitarize Ukraine and force regime change. Ukraine is fighting for real independence from Russia. I see the Ukrainian military becoming stronger after this war. Ukraine's anti-warship missile is scheduled to launch by May 2022 to defend her sea from invaders

Yes, because other countries will never allow Russian to demilitarize or force regime change on Ukraine government. Ukraine government has the power to join any Union of their choice or not to join which is the main reason Russian government is fighting Ukraine government.  Ukraine military are fully ready to protect their citizens and properties that belong to their country. Now that the war is coming to an end for the favour of Ukraine government, it will give more power to Ukraine military for not Surrender to Russian government wish over their own wish to join NATO.
Now that the Russian president and Ukraine president are about to meet to allow peace to rain between the two countries,it will give more joy to other countries that interval on this matter last month to reunion the both countries together.

[awik p]

The truth is that at this point Russia cannot demilitarize Ukraine and force regime change. Ukraine is fighting for real independence from Russia. I see the Ukrainian military becoming stronger after this war. Ukraine's anti-warship missile is scheduled to launch by May 2022 to defend her sea from invaders

Yes, because other countries will never allow Russian to demilitarize or force regime change on Ukraine government. Ukraine government has the power to join any Union of their choice or not to join which is the main reason Russian government is fighting Ukraine government.  Ukraine military are fully ready to protect their citizens and properties that belong to their country. Now that the war is coming to an end for the favour of Ukraine government, it will give more power to Ukraine military for not Surrender to Russian government wish over their own wish to join NATO.
Now that the Russian president and Ukraine president are about to meet to allow peace to rain between the two countries,it will give more joy to other countries that interval on this matter last month to reunion the both countries together.

Diplomatic paths continue to be taken so that this war does not spread, we see that Putin does not flinch despite the NATO predicate he will face. On the one hand, Ukraine as an independent country has the right to make its own choices without any intervention from other countries. But on the other hand, Russia considers joining the NATO bloc as a big threat to Russia for military bases facing the country. I hope that diplomacy will soon be achieved so that there will be no third world war

[bitgolden]

I do not think that the airplanes and helicopters are close to correct numbers, could be 50% of what was reported by Ukraine. But, the amount of ground armory, weapons, people, vehicles, tanks and all that seems like a correct. The drones they got from Turkey seems to be working pretty well, especially in a war like this. I mean if it was just missile to missile it may not be working this well and that would have been harder to achieve. But, this is literally soldier to soldier stuff and I believe that this is why drones created a big gap between the situation.

You can't just attack a whole nation with drones, they are too spread out, but when someone attacks a nation, the attacking one only uses the attacking command, not the whole nation, so they are fewer and usually close in between hence why it was easier for drones to kill and destroy that quickly.

[Tony116]

China denies it has received a request for military assistance from Russia, I don't think Russia will rely on China militarily.
China was the country that abstained at the United Nations General Assembly against Russia, but that doesn't mean it will help Russia militarily. President Xi Jinping understands that openly helping Russia is no different than going against the world and that they will be isolated like Russia, even as you said that would spark a 3rd world war.
The war will not end anytime soon but I hope that further negotiations will bring new steps towards opening up a humanitarian corridor for the migrants to avoid loss of life. It was only the citizens who suffered during the war. Praying for everyone's peace.

Abstain is also not equal to supporting. If they wanted to clearly be on their side, they would have not just abstained, but they would have been on Russia's side and support them with their vote. They did not, which is a proof enough that they do not want to side with Russia on this one.

I mean, don't get me wrong they definitely feel closer to Russia than Ukraine and they do not care if Russia wins and kills and destroys Ukraine, they just do not want to be part of it. This is different from the west, west do not want to get involved militarily but they are at least siding with Ukraine, China is not doing that with Russia at the moment.

I don't think China will interfere in Russia's war, but they will care about this war closely. Russia's attack on Ukraine is seen as a test for the US and NATO. If they don't intervene and Russia wins, It is very likely that China will invade Taiwan because China always considers Taiwan as its territory. Until now, they have not dared to use military force because they are afraid of the US and Western countries.

[JoyMarsha]

Russia will lose the war. War crimes and sanctions. Ukraine will still join Nato. These allies have told Ukraine not to say no to joining Nato. That's why the allies are supplying more weapons to Ukraine. The Nato leaders met a few days ago combined with the EU. Biden has already met Germany concerning the war. Germany and the UK are sending tanks and missiles to help Ukraine. I guess it will be tougher for Russians. That means Ukraine might be on top of the situation very soon.

[qwertyup23]

China denies it has received a request for military assistance from Russia, I don't think Russia will rely on China militarily.
China was the country that abstained at the United Nations General Assembly against Russia, but that doesn't mean it will help Russia militarily. President Xi Jinping understands that openly helping Russia is no different than going against the world and that they will be isolated like Russia, even as you said that would spark a 3rd world war.
The war will not end anytime soon but I hope that further negotiations will bring new steps towards opening up a humanitarian corridor for the migrants to avoid loss of life. It was only the citizens who suffered during the war. Praying for everyone's peace.

Abstain is also not equal to supporting. If they wanted to clearly be on their side, they would have not just abstained, but they would have been on Russia's side and support them with their vote. They did not, which is a proof enough that they do not want to side with Russia on this one.

I mean, don't get me wrong they definitely feel closer to Russia than Ukraine and they do not care if Russia wins and kills and destroys Ukraine, they just do not want to be part of it. This is different from the west, west do not want to get involved militarily but they are at least siding with Ukraine, China is not doing that with Russia at the moment.

I don't think China will interfere in Russia's war, but they will care about this war closely. Russia's attack on Ukraine is seen as a test for the US and NATO. If they don't intervene and Russia wins, It is very likely that China will invade Taiwan because China always considers Taiwan as its territory. Until now, they have not dared to use military force because they are afraid of the US and Western countries.

I also think that China is smart about this whole war. While I do agree with the other comments that abstaining does not mean it is supporting wholly the efforts of Russia, China sees the financial advantage on this situation.

If China does partake in the war by supporting Russia, we will see several moves affecting its finances on the market. This will thus affect its overall finances and put them at a disadvantage. The problem with China is that, most of us need them more than they need us. With them being the labor powerhouse, I doubt that they will also receive severe sanctions like the ones imposed on Russia.

[xSkylarx]

China denies it has received a request for military assistance from Russia, I don't think Russia will rely on China militarily.
China was the country that abstained at the United Nations General Assembly against Russia, but that doesn't mean it will help Russia militarily. President Xi Jinping understands that openly helping Russia is no different than going against the world and that they will be isolated like Russia, even as you said that would spark a 3rd world war.
The war will not end anytime soon but I hope that further negotiations will bring new steps towards opening up a humanitarian corridor for the migrants to avoid loss of life. It was only the citizens who suffered during the war. Praying for everyone's peace.

Abstain is also not equal to supporting. If they wanted to clearly be on their side, they would have not just abstained, but they would have been on Russia's side and support them with their vote. They did not, which is a proof enough that they do not want to side with Russia on this one.

I mean, don't get me wrong they definitely feel closer to Russia than Ukraine and they do not care if Russia wins and kills and destroys Ukraine, they just do not want to be part of it. This is different from the west, west do not want to get involved militarily but they are at least siding with Ukraine, China is not doing that with Russia at the moment.

I don't think China will interfere in Russia's war, but they will care about this war closely. Russia's attack on Ukraine is seen as a test for the US and NATO. If they don't intervene and Russia wins, It is very likely that China will invade Taiwan because China always considers Taiwan as its territory. Until now, they have not dared to use military force because they are afraid of the US and Western countries.

This is a fantastic point, by the way! Well, China is kind of keeping an eye on things right now, tactically, to see who might intervene at that point, but this is still just speculation. As a result of the economic sanctions that have been imposed on them, I believe that China is in some ways supporting Russia, if only because they are providing for their own needs. I could also see that Putin is pursuing some innovative ideas to counter those large corporations that are banning them, such as legalizing piracy, which I believe will have a significant impact on us and the rest of the world.

[kryptqnick]

What I most look forward to is that the innocents stop dying, because they are attacking hospitals, children die daily, sometimes the figures you handle are very good, but Russia is asking the Chinese army for help, and China will obviously support it, no I know in which part it is that they are bombed about 25km from Poland, if at least one explosion falls in Poland this would generate a greater conflict, because it would be a total devastation, not only of Ukraine but it is the total announcement of the third world war and that in no part of the world there would be no escape, sometimes it is not to be alarmist, but these things can be avoided.

Yeah, I agree to that. The first day of the war, it seemed that Russia was largely launching targeted attacks on airports and military bases. Of course, we were still shocked, but it seemed like the war was going by the rules. Very soon, however, Russia stopped gaining military victories and met strong resistance both from the military and from civilians. Being unable to reach military success and capture Kyiv or, pretty much, any big, strategically important cities, they started committing war crimes and focused on bombing civilian buildings, forming blockages, cutting off essential supplies that civilians need to survive. So yes, if the war went reasonably, with militaries fighting against each other, it would be much easier to bear. That's why Ukraine needs strong support from the West in the form of weapons, primarily to protect the cities from Russian missiles and bombs. Ukraine will win the war in any case, but there's a big question of the cost, of how many lives will be lost in the process.

[Freeesta]

Ukraine will never win this war no matter how much it wants to. We all understand that Russia is not at war with Ukraine, the war is on the territory of Ukraine. Now it is necessary to stop the loss of life and to resolve the issue at the negotiating table. Only one question is important now - how many more people will die because the leaders of the countries cannot agree. All European countries and the USA send weapons to Ukraine and at the same time talk about peace? What kind of victory are you talking about?

[7788bitcoin]

Russia will lose the war. War crimes and sanctions. Ukraine will still join Nato. These allies have told Ukraine not to say no to joining Nato. That's why the allies are supplying more weapons to Ukraine. The Nato leaders met a few days ago combined with the EU. Biden has already met Germany concerning the war. Germany and the UK are sending tanks and missiles to help Ukraine. I guess it will be tougher for Russians. That means Ukraine might be on top of the situation very soon.

I am not sure it is helping Ukraine like they wanted to. The war started a while back and i am surprised that it is still going on and the resilient of the people in Ukraine. But if Russia thinks that other countries are helping them then you might see an all out attack and there is no way Ukraine will be able to resist that and i doubt Nato or other forces will join Ukraine in fighting the Russians.