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February 24, 2022, 11:55:55 AM
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How is China playing this?

a) Observing carefully as how the West is playing this crisis, how far they are willing to go when China invades Taiwan Russia invades Ukraine. How powerful is the response, how far is the West willing to go.

b) Keeping a distance from both sides, but not "the same distance" from both sides:


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China criticized the Washington's response on Wednesday, saying the new US sanctions amounted to throwing "fuel on the fire" and were "irresponsible and immoral."

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In a joint statement, Russia and China called on NATO to "ideologized approaches of the Cold War" and "respect the diversity of civilizational and cultural-historical patterns" in other countries.

As you can see, China is nothing but happy about this, as they are watching two potential enemies erode themselves and testing their strength. Lots of lessons will be learnt on the handling of this crisis and I would not say that Europe and Democracies are playing a great role in terms of intimidation, yet at least is managing to stay reasonably united.

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February 24, 2022, 12:13:31 PM
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Yea, not hard to understand China's brain. But hard to realize the role and when they will play on the field. So far China will never support those supported by the US. This is basic logic, which means China supports Russia. More importantly, China always looks from where they could take advantage and they just follow their own strategy. However, the war wasn't expected and seems Russians do not intend to leave Ukraine. The war will be more dangerous if the US interferes there. Let's hope to stop the war.

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February 24, 2022, 01:32:38 PM
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     I agree with you! China is so lucky and must be very happy to see this hapoen because not only does it affects its potential enemies as you've said, it also gives china a strategic advantage through studying the moves of the parties involved which will help them create good olans ahead of time for their purposes since we all know how china wants to take over not just Taiwan but other territories as well. China may also use this opportunity to enhance its influence depending on how it would act towards these issues/scenarios that are happening. Who knows, China may even gain another ally or enemy.

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February 24, 2022, 03:38:16 PM
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China is an ally to Russia so basically, Russia is doing them the favor and is really just waiting for any signal to whatever they're up to. As for economic sanctions, Russia has already taken the consequence while if it's for China. I doubt it that the US and its allies can put sanction to China.
With the last news I've seen about China and Taiwan, China's airforce have been rotating on the sides of Taiwan and they're also likely to get on them at any moment.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 24, 2022, 03:46:39 PM
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China is an ally to Russia so basically, Russia is doing them the favor and is really just waiting for any signal to whatever they're up to. As for economic sanctions, Russia has already taken the consequence while if it's for China. I doubt it that the US and its allies can put sanction to China.
With the last news I've seen about China and Taiwan, China's airforce have been rotating on the sides of Taiwan and they're also likely to get on them at any moment.
Russia and China are allies even Russia may receives sanction China for sure will be there to help. I don’t think China will ever received sanctions look what happened in Hongkong before despite what happened in Hongkong and Taiwan theres no news of sactions said to happen in them. China is just carefully watching on how other countries will react to Putin's's Decision of war. Hopefully this war in Ukraine and Taiwan will stop already as it affects not just the innocent people but also the stocks and crypto markets.

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February 24, 2022, 04:06:52 PM
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There is no strategy they are simply happy about all the destructions on both sides but there is no wonder if they goes by the side of Russia if US started some army help to Ukraine. But somewhere in the corner has no relation with both the countries also is getting affected due to financial crisis.

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February 24, 2022, 04:20:02 PM
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There is no strategy they are simply happy about all the destructions on both sides but there is no wonder if they goes by the side of Russia if US started some army help to Ukraine. But somewhere in the corner has no relation with both the countries also is getting affected due to financial crisis.

I agree with you that they are pleased that these two powerful countries are pitted against one another, but I believe that if this were to happen, the Russians would do something to solicit Chinese assistance. However, as you can see, it is completely ineffective because we are all affected, and millions or billions of dollars have been lost solely as a result of this war, and people are suffering not only in that country but throughout the world, as evidenced by the rise in the price of oil, food, and other commodities. I'm hoping that this will be over as soon as possible.
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The war will be more dangerous if the US interferes there. Let's hope to stop the war.

Surely it will be more dangerous if either China or US begins to play visible and irrational  role in the fight. See how it will play out if any of them begin to interfere.

For example if China comes in, obviously supporting Russia then US will go after China. Apart from there differences in trade, US still have the feeling that the covid-19 pandemic was intentional and originating from China and so would see this as an opportunity to make a statement on China.

Another scene is if US comes out irrationally against Russia, Russia will directly start attacking on US. Yes, Let's hope to stop the war.

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isn't the war just between Ukraine and Russia? 
there is no West. Ukraine just a few hours declared Martial law, no troops will be there but the Ukrainian military. something is wrong in that situation. really.

China's role is just to sit back and watch the theater, the West also sits back because these two Ukraine and Russia are their dogs.









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This heated conflict if left unchecked will surely trigger a world war.  However, the role of the UN Security Council is needed in resolving and neutralizing the situation.  In any case the war will not benefit anyone, here I am only wary of the western side's intervention to cause an even bigger war.  The west and east blocs must be in a very tense state.
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February 24, 2022, 05:26:43 PM
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How is China playing this?

a) Observing carefully as how the West is playing this crisis, how far they are willing to go when China invades Taiwan Russia invades Ukraine. How powerful is the response, how far is the West willing to go.

b) Keeping a distance from both sides, but not "the same distance" from both sides:

In my opinion, these two big countries (Russia and China) are countries that have the same goal. It's almost like wanting to bend the shoulders of the US so that it can't move when these 2 countries become ideal partners. Freeze the economy with great power. There is no denying that China's position is behind Russia. And vice versa when China wants to invade Japan and Taiwan. So sending mutual aid between China and Russia has proven that the 2 powers are attacking the US indirectly. US relations cannot be separated from Japan and Taiwan, which were deliberately provoked by Russia and China themselves.

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February 24, 2022, 05:31:35 PM
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China is perfect catalyst who made them go viral like this. China is literally poking Russia from behind with far distance and they not gonna stop here. Somehow I’m thinking since the injection of corona virus into the world till today’s initiation of Russia Ukraine war; china is playing some game here.

Something suspicious is going on. Don’t know may be a vast planning since few years from China side.

First they take down the crypto mining, block the electricity supply to mining farms, slowly diverting the whole suspicion to something bad. Man, don’t know what’s gonna happen, but got gut feeling something is bad.
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February 24, 2022, 05:37:02 PM
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China is surely playing safe as of the moment. I think they will join the conflict once US joined the party which could lead to total catastrophe. They will surely start at disputed territorial waters in South China sea and bully its way to have those unexplored oils there. They are watching the situation closely and once US sends troops, I think that would be the time that they will move as well.
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February 24, 2022, 05:46:14 PM
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China is an ally to Russia so basically, Russia is doing them the favor and is really just waiting for any signal to whatever they're up to. As for economic sanctions, Russia has already taken the consequence while if it's for China. I doubt it that the US and its allies can put sanction to China.
With the last news I've seen about China and Taiwan, China's airforce have been rotating on the sides of Taiwan and they're also likely to get on them at any moment.
Russia and China are allies even Russia may receives sanction China for sure will be there to help. I don’t think China will ever received sanctions look what happened in Hongkong before despite what happened in Hongkong and Taiwan theres no news of sactions said to happen in them. China is just carefully watching on how other countries will react to Putin's's Decision of war. Hopefully this war in Ukraine and Taiwan will stop already as it affects not just the innocent people but also the stocks and crypto markets.
Yes, they're like sworn brothers so even if Russia receives an economic sanction. Their brother is at the top of the chain now in terms of economy and power.
China is the bully and likely the most powerful and that's why whichever country they're in, no one seems to stop them. So, for these countries that are being bullied by them, their main choice is to be friendly to them.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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How is China playing this?

a) Observing carefully as how the West is playing this crisis, how far they are willing to go when China invades Taiwan Russia invades Ukraine. How powerful is the response, how far is the West willing to go.

b) Keeping a distance from both sides, but not "the same distance" from both sides:


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China criticized the Washington's response on Wednesday, saying the new US sanctions amounted to throwing "fuel on the fire" and were "irresponsible and immoral."

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In a joint statement, Russia and China called on NATO to "ideologized approaches of the Cold War" and "respect the diversity of civilizational and cultural-historical patterns" in other countries.

As you can see, China is nothing but happy about this, as they are watching two potential enemies erode themselves and testing their strength. Lots of lessons will be learnt on the handling of this crisis and I would not say that Europe and Democracies are playing a great role in terms of intimidation, yet at least is managing to stay reasonably united.

China is definitely trying to master the art of playing two sides. I think you are overlooking and have purposefully ignored the fact that China said the territorial integrity of Ukraine should not be violated and that they want peace. Even if it is only lip-service, they clearly had no qualms about talking badly about the Russian actions. War is bad for business and China is not as rich as they might want - this has the potential to drag the global economy down the toilet. Russia's actions have little benefit for China and Russia has little to offer China economically - most of their income comes from selling to the West. Russia is simply a partner of convenience and if China ever got to a position where they could neutralize Russian nuclear weapons, then they would invade and take over Russian land in a second. Ironically in the future it might be Russia that needs the support of the EU and the USA to defend their land from invasion from the biggest population in the world who are growing increasingly abrasive.

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As you can see, China is nothing but happy about this, as they are watching two potential enemies erode themselves and testing their strength.

Well its one of the art of war though "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so yeah China will be enjoying all of this but depending on how Biden will response on this because Biden now hold the main button for a potential world war 3. If biden decided to strike hard then China as well North Korea (potentially) will have a reason on joining this war thus making the other member of NATO to join as well

Ukraine will be taking devastating effect depending on how this goes but both party are wrong in this case. Both Biden and Putin are just sly old dogs that wants to go to war (and invade Ukraine) for their own personal reasons

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China and Russia is basically the same nation. You may see a few differences in them, you could point out how there are small differences you think that are big. But the reality is that they are both nations with powerful army, powerful economy (or at least powerful against the nations they attack) and how no big nation will do anything against them but put sanctions against them.

China could take all of Hong Kong and Vietnam under their nation, like fully, and nobody will do anything about it. Hell I am sure China could much worse, and yet nobody will do anything about it. You think Russia will stop with Ukraine? They saw that nothing will be done so they could do anything they want.

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February 24, 2022, 07:37:25 PM
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How is China playing this?

a) Observing carefully as how the West is playing this crisis, how far they are willing to go when China invades Taiwan Russia invades Ukraine. How powerful is the response, how far is the West willing to go.

b) Keeping a distance from both sides, but not "the same distance" from both sides:


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China criticized the Washington's response on Wednesday, saying the new US sanctions amounted to throwing "fuel on the fire" and were "irresponsible and immoral."

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In a joint statement, Russia and China called on NATO to "ideologized approaches of the Cold War" and "respect the diversity of civilizational and cultural-historical patterns" in other countries.

As you can see, China is nothing but happy about this, as they are watching two potential enemies erode themselves and testing their strength. Lots of lessons will be learnt on the handling of this crisis and I would not say that Europe and Democracies are playing a great role in terms of intimidation, yet at least is managing to stay reasonably united.
China is the ideological ally of Russia and even though it is not going to take sides in an arms conflict, internally we all know it is going to support Russia, in Global geopolitics if you want to compete against the USA, Russia, and China have to stay together at least for next 30-40 years until China becomes a superpower equivalent to the west. Secondly as you mentioned supporting Russia's cause is going to be rewarding for China as well, because if Russia can do this to Ukraine, China can also do the same to Taiwan and it's other regions and west would be just a mute spectator just like they would be in this case.
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How is China playing this?

You get yours while I get mine.
Then, time to think about our own borders since....



See that green territory in the northeast and the Shakalin Islands?   Wink

China needs Russia till it fills its own ambitions near its own borders, but it also needs the EU and the US for its economy, EU and US dropping in purchasing power means fewer products sold, fewer workers back home, so if things go out of hand Xi will suddenly change his tone about this. Till now they wait and see, unlike others, they have time for it.

China could take all of Hong Kong and Vietnam under their nation, like fully, and nobody will do anything about it.

Hong Kong was returned to China by the UK in 1997, probably you're thinking about Taiwan.
As for Vietnam, it's probably the last thing China wants to invade in Asia, probably less than even Japan itself, attacking a fellow communist country, after all, that happened there is something no propaganda machine could wash clean.


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To understand what China is going to do we do not need to predict anything special about this country, since China and USA are competitors in many fields such as economic fields and the USA is on Ukraine's side and China prefer to see Russia damaging nato countries including the USA they will surely support Russia in this war and that's not very surprising about China because they also want to see other countries fighting together while they can do economic development and this war will make the countries produce demand more supplies and China will be sure happy about this situation. So in this theory, I guess China is happy about this war and they will support Russia as well.

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