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February 25, 2022, 10:50:55 AM |
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February 25, 2022, 11:17:59 AM |
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Welcome to Bitcointalk, you've done the right thing and you are fully aware of how Bitcointalk worked for new casino making an announcement here, copper account, and a well-designed introduction, based on your title alone people can easily figure out that its' promoting a crash game, so far you are the third crash game dedicated casino with some added games hopefully you will be active here and interact with the community.
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February 25, 2022, 11:33:08 AM Merited by Jawhead999 (1) |
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Welcome Crashino to the Bitcoin Forum! The first thing I see and which gets my attention is that you are offering different Fiat deposits and withdrawals and you are not asking KYC just like what you have indicated on your announcement thread, but upon checking your AML Policy this is what is said. Can you please explain this to us? Or that no personal info - no kyc was just for just registration alone? and still need to go KYC if necessary, I think you should make this clear to avoid confusion. 4.5. Enhanced due diligence will be conducted by a number of methods, including but is not limited to: • Verification based on personal documents e.g. passport, identity card, proof of address, etc. • Social media and publicly held data • Privilege information from other operators, sources • Financial or corporate data • Third-party data providers [ Source ] Also about the privacy policy, so only anonymous during registration but when using it you need to provide this? The information may include your: - Username - First and surname - Date of birth - Email address - Residential address - Phone number - Billing address - Identification documents - Proof of address documents - Transaction history - Website usage preferences - Any other information you provide us when using our platforms - Credit/debit card details, or other payment information [ Source ] How come it is not no KYC? Please edit your title I think it is misleading.
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February 25, 2022, 11:40:30 AM |
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Welcome to the forum!
Us from BTCGOSU have already started the review process and will shortly publish our Crashino review - needless to say we are going to announce it here on bitcointalk as well.
Good luck to you!
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February 25, 2022, 11:43:49 AM |
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Hello and welcome I checked your website do you have license? since I see you are offering USD, EUR, CAD and other fiat and I am sure that only licensed gambling sites only accepts fiat I see you have a lot of games to offer, i will try all that 10 crash games it looks good.
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Slow death
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February 25, 2022, 12:02:07 PM |
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Welcome Crashino to the Bitcoin Forum! The first thing I see and which gets my attention is that you are offering different Fiat deposits and withdrawals and you are not asking KYC just like what you have indicated on your announcement thread, but upon checking your AML Policy this is what is said. Can you please explain this to us? Or that no personal info - no kyc was just for just registration alone? and still need to go KYC if necessary, I think you should make this clear to avoid confusion. 4.5. Enhanced due diligence will be conducted by a number of methods, including but is not limited to: • Verification based on personal documents e.g. passport, identity card, proof of address, etc. • Social media and publicly held data • Privilege information from other operators, sources • Financial or corporate data • Third-party data providers [ Source ] Also about the privacy policy, so only anonymous during registration but when using it you need to provide this? The information may include your: - Username - First and surname - Date of birth - Email address - Residential address - Phone number - Billing address - Identification documents - Proof of address documents - Transaction history - Website usage preferences - Any other information you provide us when using our platforms - Credit/debit card details, or other payment information [ Source ] How come it is not no KYC? Please edit your title I think it is misleading. worse that we are talking about cryptocurrencies and he is asking questions like: "transaction history" this is a much tougher KY and I very much doubt that the community likes KYC, I had already posted this in another thread that when they bring an ass on this forum Casino owners have to study their customers well and put TOS in accordance with the laws of governments and also their customers but what has happened is that many casinos have not done their homework and when they arrive on the forum I realized this, I particularly did not I like KYC due to the fact that I have to give my documents to sites where the owners are anonymous, but I KYC on sites that I find trustworthy
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Crashino.com (OP)
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February 25, 2022, 12:09:16 PM |
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Thanks everyone for the welcome messages. Let's keep this going! 🚀🌕 Welcome Crashino to the Bitcoin Forum! The first thing I see and which gets my attention is that you are offering different Fiat deposits and withdrawals and you are not asking KYC just like what you have indicated on your announcement thread, but upon checking your AML Policy this is what is said. Can you please explain this to us? Or that no personal info - no kyc was just for just registration alone? and still need to go KYC if necessary, I think you should make this clear to avoid confusion. 4.5. Enhanced due diligence will be conducted by a number of methods, including but is not limited to: • Verification based on personal documents e.g. passport, identity card, proof of address, etc. • Social media and publicly held data • Privilege information from other operators, sources • Financial or corporate data • Third-party data providers [ Source ] Also about the privacy policy, so only anonymous during registration but when using it you need to provide this? The information may include your: - Username - First and surname - Date of birth - Email address - Residential address - Phone number - Billing address - Identification documents - Proof of address documents - Transaction history - Website usage preferences - Any other information you provide us when using our platforms - Credit/debit card details, or other payment information [ Source ] How come it is not no KYC? Please edit your title I think it is misleading. Thanks for your message Joeperry. We are required to add these info in our AML and Privacy Policy in order to be able to perform this when we suspect underage gambling or other breach of our Terms and Conditions. Please check our registration form and My Profile page after the registration. There is no field to enter personal information or upload documents. We do not require any personal information. We are simply not interested. Hello and welcome I checked your website do you have license? since I see you are offering USD, EUR, CAD and other fiat and I am sure that only licensed gambling sites only accepts fiat I see you have a lot of games to offer, i will try all that 10 crash games it looks good.
Thanks for your message. Glad you liked our number of Crash games. 🚀 Crashino is not licensed. This enables us not to perform KYC on our players. We use fiat currencies in player accounts because of our platform and game providers (which are licensed). All the transactions are processed in crypto only and converted into fiat account currency at deposits and withdrawals.
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February 25, 2022, 12:09:47 PM |
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worse that we are talking about cryptocurrencies and he is asking questions like: "transaction history" this is a much tougher KY and I very much doubt that the community likes KYC, I had already posted this in another thread that when they bring an ass on this forum Casino owners have to study their customers well and put TOS in accordance with the laws of governments and also their customers but what has happened is that many casinos have not done their homework and when they arrive on the forum I realized this, I particularly did not I like KYC due to the fact that I have to give my documents to sites where the owners are anonymous, but I KYC on sites that I find trustworthy
I do like KYC too since there is a lot of perks you can get from it such as priority of the user and additional security of the account but of course I only submit KYC to trusted gambling sites and not to new sites. In regards with the crashino I see that you put in title that No KYC but it looks like you still asked personal information, I think that was confusing or you are just using the No KYC to attract players? ya.ya.yo!
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February 25, 2022, 12:12:33 PM |
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Thanks everyone for the welcome messages. Let's keep this going! 🚀🌕 Welcome Crashino to the Bitcoin Forum! The first thing I see and which gets my attention is that you are offering different Fiat deposits and withdrawals and you are not asking KYC just like what you have indicated on your announcement thread, but upon checking your AML Policy this is what is said. Can you please explain this to us? Or that no personal info - no kyc was just for just registration alone? and still need to go KYC if necessary, I think you should make this clear to avoid confusion. 4.5. Enhanced due diligence will be conducted by a number of methods, including but is not limited to: • Verification based on personal documents e.g. passport, identity card, proof of address, etc. • Social media and publicly held data • Privilege information from other operators, sources • Financial or corporate data • Third-party data providers [ Source ] Also about the privacy policy, so only anonymous during registration but when using it you need to provide this? The information may include your: - Username - First and surname - Date of birth - Email address - Residential address - Phone number - Billing address - Identification documents - Proof of address documents - Transaction history - Website usage preferences - Any other information you provide us when using our platforms - Credit/debit card details, or other payment information [ Source ] How come it is not no KYC? Please edit your title I think it is misleading. Thanks for your message Joeperry. We are required to add these info in our AML and Privacy Policy in order to be able to perform this when we suspect underage gambling or other breach of our Terms and Conditions. Please check our registration form and My Profile page after the registration. There is no field to enter personal information or upload documents. We do not require any personal information. We are simply not interested. Hello and welcome I checked your website do you have license? since I see you are offering USD, EUR, CAD and other fiat and I am sure that only licensed gambling sites only accepts fiat I see you have a lot of games to offer, i will try all that 10 crash games it looks good.
Thanks for your message. Glad you liked our number of Crash games. 🚀 Crashino is not licensed. This enables us not to perform KYC on our players. We use fiat currencies in player accounts because of our platform and game providers (which are licensed). All the transactions are processed in crypto only and converted into fiat account currency at deposits and withdrawals. You should be truthful in all that you posted on your website you have explained this to us now how about those who are not aware of your explanation, this could be a trap and it's deceiving players, gamblers here will follow what is on your terms of service and rules and yet you make it appear you will not implement it, so what is really true on what you're saying.
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February 25, 2022, 12:23:52 PM |
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Hello, Crashino! First and foremost, congratulations on the launch of your gambling platform, and welcome to our little community. It looks like you have a really good site, well laid out, and with a wide variety of games. I have to admit that this is the first time that I have seen so many choices of crash games on a platform.
I've noticed from your Terms of use and other information on your website that you want to remain completely anonymous and don't want to disclose any information about yourself or your company. Can you tell me how legal that is in your jurisdiction, and what impact it has on the security of players and deposits? Are there any legal mechanisms we can use in the event of misuse?
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February 25, 2022, 02:04:33 PM |
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Welcome Crashino to the Bitcoin Forum! The first thing I see and which gets my attention is that you are offering different Fiat deposits and withdrawals and you are not asking KYC just like what you have indicated on your announcement thread, but upon checking your AML Policy this is what is said. Can you please explain this to us? Or that no personal info - no kyc was just for just registration alone? and still need to go KYC if necessary, I think you should make this clear to avoid confusion. 4.5. Enhanced due diligence will be conducted by a number of methods, including but is not limited to: • Verification based on personal documents e.g. passport, identity card, proof of address, etc. • Social media and publicly held data • Privilege information from other operators, sources • Financial or corporate data • Third-party data providers [ Source ] Also about the privacy policy, so only anonymous during registration but when using it you need to provide this? The information may include your: - Username - First and surname - Date of birth - Email address - Residential address - Phone number - Billing address - Identification documents - Proof of address documents - Transaction history - Website usage preferences - Any other information you provide us when using our platforms - Credit/debit card details, or other payment information [ Source ] How come it is not no KYC? Please edit your title I think it is misleading. worse that we are talking about cryptocurrencies and he is asking questions like: "transaction history" this is a much tougher KY and I very much doubt that the community likes KYC, I had already posted this in another thread that when they bring an ass on this forum Casino owners have to study their customers well and put TOS in accordance with the laws of governments and also their customers but what has happened is that many casinos have not done their homework and when they arrive on the forum I realized this, I particularly did not I like KYC due to the fact that I have to give my documents to sites where the owners are anonymous, but I KYC on sites that I find trustworthy Checked the source and they have edited it and it's not showing anymore, they have not done their assignment they are in a hurry to launch their casino and, how can we trust a casino who is in conflict with what they are implementing and what they saying, but it's good to know that they do not have the same alibi like the other developer who's alibi is they have not yet edit the template because they just bought the template, it's up to the community to appreciate or judge the dev's action.
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Should I or should I not be glad that they don't have KYC but are not licensed? I mean eh, we can't exactly have everything as a user, but hmm, I'd prefer to have some level of KYC requirements but licensed instead of unlicensed ones. I mean yes, licenses don't necessarily give security tbf, they just allow you to create your own business (and they also add a lot more regulations), but still, it's a form of safe proof I guess? A lvl 1 indicator that says "yes, this casino can be trusted in the most basic level" kind of thing. ~
Checked the source and they have edited it and it's not showing anymore, they have not done their assignment they are in a hurry to launch their casino and, how can we trust a casino who is in conflict with what they are implementing and what they saying, but it's good to know that they do not have the same alibi like the other developer who's alibi is they have not yet edit the template because they just bought the template, it's up to the community to appreciate or judge the dev's action. Just an assumption but hey who knows, it might not even be an actual template but rather something they'd change willy nilly in the future without informing their users. I mean, it's one way to damn their customers no? I might try a few games though, I like crash games after all.
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bittraffic
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February 25, 2022, 03:07:44 PM |
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Nice another bookies. Crypto Casino and Sportsbook is gradually increasing. Crypto gamblers prefer the anonymity so it will be best to keep it that way.
It will be an issue indeed for having no license. To me I dont mind having no license as long as there will be no KYC and the casino doesn't scam. As for right now, we dont know this yet. Welcome to bitcointalk.
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rijaljun
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February 25, 2022, 03:12:20 PM |
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Welcome to the forum, Crashino! Your ANN thread really looks good, and much more your site. I am very excited to try your site and games right away, but I came across the concerns regarding KYC terms and such. I agree with the replies above that staying consistent and providing the right information with us here is very crucial to gain our trust and for us to have a good relationship with you. Nevertheless, I see and appreciate the you respond and comply with the concerns here. I think that making mistakes is normal, but your next action after receiving criticism is what will define you then.
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February 25, 2022, 03:20:10 PM |
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Welcome to the forum. The UI of the website isn't unique. Crashino.com has bought the gambling software from a provider, isn't it? I have seen the same UI of two other casinos before. One of them is Betnomi, and the other one is TwiceDice. However, Betnomi has developed a newer version of their website by themselves. We are required to add these info in our AML and Privacy Policy in order to be able to perform this when we suspect underage gambling or other breach of our Terms and Conditions. Please check our registration form and My Profile page after the registration. There is no field to enter personal information or upload documents. We do not require any personal information. We are simply not interested.
I'm not satisfied with this answer. If you want to verify the age only then identity documents like national ID card or passport is enough. Why the AML policy says user need to provide their proof of address, proof of income etc? Moreover, the general terms and conditions says: 3.10. We have the right to carry out "KYC" (Know Your Customer) verification procedures and access to your Account may be blocked or closed if we determine that you have supplied false or misleading information.
If Crashino.com owners aren't interested to ask for KYC then simply add this in the terms page: “we will never ask for user personal information (KYC)”. Based on the current general terms and AML policy, Crashino.com reserves the right to ask for user identity verification process at any time and the user will have no option to deny that.
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February 25, 2022, 03:26:01 PM |
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We do not require any personal information. We are simply not interested.
I assume your intentions are good and sincere, however, the words written here and those in your ToS are contradictory. 4.5. Enhanced due diligence will be conducted by a number of methods, including but is not limited to: • Verification based on personal documents e.g. passport, identity card, proof of address, etc. • Social media and publicly held data • Privilege information from other operators, sources • Financial or corporate data • Third-party data providers [ Source ] Unfortunately, there are situations in which casinos use the rules of ToS to their own advantage, thus harming the user. I think that in order to avoid any misunderstandings, you should think about a clearer wording of these rules. It should be clear if KYC may be required or not.
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February 25, 2022, 03:42:38 PM |
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Welcome to the forum! I've visited the website to look around and tried some of the games which can be played for free(which I think is great so gamblers can check the game out before actually spending money on it). anyway, as I tried several games I noticed that the loading time of the game is quite slow, I mean, it takes about 20-30 seconds to fully load the game. I'm not sure if that is normal and I am pretty sure it is not my internet. as for the KYC thing, you could simply say that "no KYC upon registration"
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February 25, 2022, 03:54:11 PM |
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worse that we are talking about cryptocurrencies and he is asking questions like: "transaction history" this is a much tougher KY and I very much doubt that the community likes KYC, I had already posted this in another thread that when they bring an ass on this forum Casino owners have to study their customers well and put TOS in accordance with the laws of governments and also their customers but what has happened is that many casinos have not done their homework and when they arrive on the forum I realized this, I particularly did not I like KYC due to the fact that I have to give my documents to sites where the owners are anonymous, but I KYC on sites that I find trustworthy
I do like KYC too since there is a lot of perks you can get from it such as priority of the user and additional security of the account but of course I only submit KYC to trusted gambling sites and not to new sites. In regards with the crashino I see that you put in title that No KYC but it looks like you still asked personal information, I think that was confusing or you are just using the No KYC to attract players? ya.ya.yo! I have no problem with KYC but providing personal details in a new casino site that is just about to start to put up a good reputation is a no for me. I hope they would be clear about their no KYC advertisement. However, Crashino seems an interesting site and they seem so generous when it comes to giveaways. It would be better if they would create a signature campaign for this.
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Little Mouse
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February 25, 2022, 03:58:53 PM |
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Unfortunately, there are situations in which casinos use the rules of ToS to their own advantage, thus harming the user. I think that in order to avoid any misunderstandings, you should think about a clearer wording of these rules. It should be clear if KYC may be required or not.
Yeah true. Unfortunately, all the casinos even the bigger name in the industry also follow the same strategy to have advantage on different occasion. There's no way they will lose the money as house.
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