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February 25, 2022, 08:10:38 PM
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I read online that Linux OS is much more secured than windows OS so how about running a crypto wallet on Linux OS instead? Anyone running wallet on Linux OS on here? .

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February 25, 2022, 08:13:58 PM
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Most wallets look, feel and work the same way regardless of whether they're installed on windows or Linux.

Devices are only as secure as the competency of their users. If you don't download random stuff/things you don't trust on Windows and don't click random links, you're probably safe enough.
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February 25, 2022, 08:38:23 PM
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Not the full answer that I needed, I'm talking about Trojan and malwares that can affect crypto wallets or even pc, it seems windows OS is the most affected compare to Linux OS.

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February 25, 2022, 08:44:49 PM
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Best to use Linux OS, it is better, more people are using Windows, and due to this, hackers prefer to design malware for Windows which they know it can not be of help for them or of little help that can not be of benefit if they create malware for Linux OS because they know already that people that prefer to choose Linux are conscious of security and safety unlike everybody using Windows. But nonetheless, 100% protection comes from you by making sure you protect your device from online attacks.

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February 25, 2022, 08:52:01 PM
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Linux is open-source. Everything's transparent. In Windows, the work is done by Microsoft and the OS is closed-source. Therefore, the former is recommended as it eliminates this trust.

it seems windows OS is the most affected compare to Linux OS.
Well, most of the computer users use Windows, so it's reasonable to have more malicious intentions there. Also, people who're using Linux don't fall for crappy software. If I wanted to scam people, I wouldn't choose an OS whose users care about principles such as privacy.

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February 25, 2022, 08:57:01 PM
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It still depends on how you use these OS.

But most of the linux users are very well knowledgeable on how to avoid simple hacking tricks like phishing which is very common on windows users because they've got the most users.

As explained, the hackers are likely on the side for which they can have more potential victims easily.

That's why for me, whether you use linux or OS but if you're not aware of that simple hacking trick being done through phishing, you're still at risk.



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February 25, 2022, 10:08:51 PM
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Not the full answer that I needed, I'm talking about Trojan and malwares that can affect crypto wallets or even pc, it seems windows OS is the most affected compare to Linux OS.

There is no perfect OS. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. Linux is lightweight and more secure then windows, but windows is more user friendly and that's why people use windows.

The good thing about Open Source is the code is public and you can read/contribute and better see what is going on. From a security point of view, there is no silver bullet, but when there is a problem the community can find it and solve it.
Windows, on the other hand, is pretty much closed source and if something is not documented then you don't know what is going on and it will take longer to get it fixed. Another important detail is that Windows is a much more popular OS then Linux. This means a lot more malware for windows that will be trying to attack your crypto wallets.

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Linux is as secure as you make it.  Makes no sense to run Linux if you are installing only proprietary software that significantly reduce your privacy and security overall.  A clean install of Debian, preferably the fully free one, with only free software like Bitcoin Core is much more secure than a clean install of Windows, even debloated.

What makes your Operating System safer is your behavior.  Stay away from unknown websites that you do not typically trust visiting.  Use Tor Browser with Safest security mode on all the time.  If possible, after a clean Debian install it is recommended that you only use the said Personal Computer or Laptop for Cryptocurrency transactions.  If you start using it for other purposes, risks increase.

A more advanced setup is taking an old Personal Computer, removing any wireless modules from it, purchasing a webcam, installing clean Debian and using the PC as Cold Storage.  But being more advanced, I would rather do a clean Debian install for now and start understanding how a Cold Storage PC works later.  Moving from Windows to Linux is still a great big step towards a better security of your Bitcoin.

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Lubuntu is more lightweight than Ubuntu. Linux is first priority, next Ubuntu if you don't want to use Windows

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In my non-technical opinion, I'd say Linux is at least slightly more secure compared to Windows due to it's open-source nature. But regardless, even if Linux was less secure, the fact that most malware are made for Windows devices makes Linux more "secure" due to the fact that you will far less likely to be targeted by malware.

Of course though, even if it's the case that Linux was the most secure thing in existence, but if you were to execute random command line codes you see on the internet, then you're screwed regardless.

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Linux will have fewer viruses, I have never experienced viruses at all even when I kept downloading files from porn and torrent sites which means it's more secure if it's what you worry about. There are more uses for Linux, even the android we use today on phones are Linux derivatives.

The easiest Linux wallet to use today is the Appimage. You just need to chmod for permission, there is no need to find dependencies anymore whether you use a Debian-based or RPM.

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Not the full answer that I needed, I'm talking about Trojan and malwares that can affect crypto wallets or even pc, it seems windows OS is the most affected compare to Linux OS.
There are more Windows users than there are Linux users so there will always be more attacks against Windows compared to Linux.

Windows is also known to have more vulnerabilities and backdoors (some of them intentionally put there my Microsoft!!!) than Linux that is open source hence transparent.

Being open source also means when a vulnerability is found in Linux it can be quickly fixed as a large number of contributors from all around the world can see the code and help fix it in the shortest time possible. On the other hand when the same happens in the closed source Windows, you have to wait until the small Microsoft Windows dev team figures out what the vulnerability was and how to fix it and then release a fix which takes a lot longer and may not fix the issue completely.

With all that said, if you want security you should aim for cold storage more than anything else.

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You can use Windows Tails OS How to Install Tails OS on USB flash drive for Wallet Purpose or Linux or Ubuntu

Lubuntu is more lightweight than Ubuntu. Linux is first priority, next Ubuntu if you don't want to use Windows

It is noticeable that you are also far from Linux systems.

See how popular Linux systems are today.
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

But of course, you need to understand for what purposes you want to use these systems. To say that there are no viruses or Trojan on Linux is wrong. But for Windows, launching virus programs is much easier, the user just needs to click on the file to find out later that he launched the pest.
Linux requires permission, that is, root rights, and without certain rights, many programs simply will not start. Therefore, much more viruses are written for Windows systems, but Linux does not remain without threats.
The latest news proves that the main protection of your device is the owner of this device.

https://hackaday.com/2022/01/26/major-bug-grants-root-for-all-major-linux-distributions/

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Basically saying the core responsibility of security is of the owner of the device keeping aside the fact that which operating system you are using whether it's windows, Linux or any other.Suppose you install a malicious software or click on the link that was injected with the virus then the system can't protect you in that case.

But definitely yes if we make comparisons then Linux is best security vise from windows and have much secured network than windows.But the problem is how many of us are using it? The members above explained to you that windows is more popular which is why it becomes soft target for the hackers as you could easily find a victim from thousand of people rather than trying from ten people.Here is chart that explains that majority share is dominated by Microsoft windows :

 

This share is slowly being reducing as more people are shifting towards Linux but according to reports the majority of hacks are windows related like Trojans, password hacks, mining related and others.

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Malware is everywhere, but computers that run Windows—the world's most popular operating system—are especially prone to attacks. According to AV Test's 2019/2020 Security Report, 114 million new pieces of malicious programs were developed in 2019, and 78.64 percent of all attacks were distributed on Windows systems.

Those numbers are expected to rise in 2020, with 160 million new programs by the end of the year. One reason for this increase is the COVID-19 pandemic; many hackers are taking advantage of the uncertainty to spread malware and increase phishing attacks. As a result, the percentage of malware targeting Windows computers has risen to 83.45 percent in the first quarter of 2020.

Source : Windows contributes 70-80% of hacks

So this is why if we see from security perspective then Linux OS is best and there are other advantages also like open source and you can made customisation to it according to your preference if you have technical knowledge about it.

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Linux will have fewer viruses, I have never experienced viruses at all even when I kept downloading files from porn and torrent sites which means it's more secure if it's what you worry about.

You know, a lot of people aren't even aware that they have a virus or malware on their computer, they use Linux and they think they don't need any protection because viruses and malware don't exist for that OS. While it is undeniable that hackers will not spend their resources to attack 2% of computers running Linux, this does not mean that Linux is bulletproof. I would never use the same computer for pornography, torrents and cryptocurrencies, and these things should be strictly separate no matter which OS we use.

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Linux OS is not for everybody, if you want to be a Linux user then you should be a smart fellow, I find Linux OS a very frustrating thing to use compare to windows OS, scammers find windows OS more easier to target because it has more users than Linux and it's also closed source.

I think that your information is greatly outdated. Nowadays one can use a Linux Mint, for example, getting the look and feel pretty close to what's on Windows.

I read online that Linux OS is much more secured than windows OS so how about running a crypto wallet on Linux OS instead? Anyone running wallet on Linux OS on here? .

I won't answer to the direct question, but I'll tell something else: no matter how safe an OS is, if you are not used with it you have good chance to make bigger mistakes than on an OS you're used with. So if you are doing great on Windows, my advises are:
* stay on Windows for now (I really hope - for your security - that you have a proper key for it or no key at all and you didn't install a crack for it)
* if you have the time and patience, start taking a look how this and that Linux works for you
* get a hardware wallet (but never forget to pay attention on what software wallet you install and to pay attention against clipboard malware too)
* don't click onto any and every page, link, ad, image, e-mail and so on; don't install everything from any source; don't install cracks

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A clean install of Debian, preferably the fully free one, with only free software like Bitcoin Core is much more secure than a clean install of Windows, even debloated.

Using exclusively free and open source software is nearly impossible, especially when we're talking about hardware driver (such as GPU and network card).

You can use Windows Tails OS How to Install Tails OS on USB flash drive for Wallet Purpose or Linux or Ubuntu

Lubuntu is more lightweight than Ubuntu. Linux is first priority, next Ubuntu if you don't want to use Windows

It is noticeable that you are also far from Linux systems.

See how popular Linux systems are today.
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

Distrowatch "popularity" is based on page view of each distro page. It bad representation of linux distro popularity. For example, it's more likely you'll find Ubuntu user (6th position) rather than MX Linux/Endeavour OS (1st and 2nd position).

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I've been a Linux user for a bit more than a decade. I can tell you this:

1. Linux is not an OS, it's a kernel. There are,  as of today, over 1000 OS's (distributions) based on the Linux kernel.

2. Some Linux based distributions (or "distros", as they're called in the community) strive to be as close to Windows as possible, and some don't. At that, if you choose to use Ubuntu, or Linux Mint, or MX Linux, your experience is gonna be arguably much better than if you try to start using Arch, or LFS.

3. Linux is, as a rule, way safer than windows. Then, as it was pointed above, your OS will be as safe as you make it. A whole lot of people move BILLIONS of dollars a day on Windows without a problem. It's true that Linux based distros get no viruses, but it's also true, if you do get one, there is also no antivirus software for it (other than ClamAV, as far as I know), so it's a double edged sword.

4. It's also true there are very few viruses meant to work on Linux, but the real reason (again, as far as I know) is that Linux has a very strong admin policy, and nobody can act as an admin without a password. So, ultimately, Linux based distros are as safe as the password you use on them.

5. As a rule of thumb, Linux based distros are much less demanding on hardware than Windows, which allows you to run them on older PC's without a problem (the one I'm using now is 6 years old, and works beautifully).

6. As beginner friendly as they may be, all Linux based distros have a learning curve, and you have to be willing to learn how to use them.

7. Finally, as far as I know, there are no rehab programs for Linux, so if you get addicted (and chances are you will) you're on your own.  Grin
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Most of the time, operating systems are pretty secure. Vulnerabilities are patched out quickly, if your operating system is a stable, and updated version. What it comes down to is how you use your operating system, although Linux does have some advantages with chmod, and the default implementation in a lot of the distributions, for example non elevated permissions, or an operating system like Qubes OS might have the root account disabled entirely.

Basically, it varies from the distribution your planning on using. Definitely, some Linux distributions are absolutely more secure in their default implementation than Windows, though for most people who are security conscious, every operating system is decent, though there are definitely privacy concerns with Windows.

Linux is open-source. Everything's transparent. In Windows, the work is done by Microsoft and the OS is closed-source. Therefore, the former is recommended as it eliminates this trust.
Well, most of the computer users use Windows, so it's reasonable to have more malicious intentions there. Also, people who're using Linux don't fall for crappy software. If I wanted to scam people, I wouldn't choose an OS whose users care about principles such as privacy.
However, your still relying on hardware which is closed source, so still not exactly perfect. Although, I don't agree with you that Linux users don't fall for the same things that Windows users do. Linux is just an alternative, using Linux doesn't nesscatrily mean you understand security, and how it works. Especially, how easy some Linux distributions have become to use now. Maybe, a couple of years ago I would have somewhat agreed with you, but distributions like Ubuntu now are very easy to use without anyone knows anything about Linux, especially when they only use it for certain applications available in the Ubuntu Software, and web browsing.

2. Some Linux based distributions (or "distros", as they're called in the community) strive to be as close to Windows as possible, and some don't. At that, if you choose to use Ubuntu, or Linux Mint, or MX Linux, your experience is gonna be arguably much better than if you try to start using Arch, or LFS.
Worth noting, that complexity doesn't mean more secure. Though, a distro which allows advanced configuration can be made to be more secure, or depending on the knowledge of the user editing it, could actually make it less secure.

3. Linux is, as a rule, way safer than windows. Then, as it was pointed above, your OS will be as safe as you make it. A whole lot of people move BILLIONS of dollars a day on Windows without a problem. It's true that Linux based distros get no viruses, but it's also true, if you do get one, there is also no antivirus software for it (other than ClamAV, as far as I know), so it's a double edged sword.
I'm not a fan of saying that as a general rule of thumb Linux is safer, it wildly differs on how the user uses the computer, which can definitely range wildly among users. For example, if you're downloading from unverified, and untrustworthy sources, while probably not equally at risk (due to the attack surface that Windows has), however it should be assumed that you're at equal risk.

Although, Linux viruses definitely do exist, and even if we assume the possibility of a Linux virus gaining elevated permissions, there's still issues with exploiting programs that have vulnerabilities themselves. For example, your web browser which could potentially be a security risk. I would say that Linux is more hardened, due to some of the implementations of root, as well as the attack surface being much less than Windows. Although, bare in mind that there's definitely a legitimate risk for viruses etc, as Linux is still targetted by malicious users, since most servers are running on Linux. Most banks use Linux etc.

4. It's also true there are very few viruses meant to work on Linux, but the real reason (again, as far as I know) is that Linux has a very strong admin policy, and nobody can act as an admin without a password. So, ultimately, Linux based distros are as safe as the password you use on them.
Right, partially correct I'd say, but ultimately security comes down to how you use the operating system, the credentials used, how you store those credentials etc.  

5. As a rule of thumb, Linux based distros are much less demanding on hardware than Windows, which allows you to run them on older PC's without a problem (the one I'm using now is 6 years old, and works beautifully).
Yeah, if you're using legacy hardware then Linux will likely run out of box more than say Windows 10 would. Windows 10 needs additional work such as drivers etc, whereas Linux already has some decent coverage on the already implemented ones.

6. As beginner friendly as they may be, all Linux based distros have a learning curve, and you have to be willing to learn how to use them.
Which, if you aren't an advanced user is becoming simpler, and simpler as time goes on. Ubuntu, and the closer to Windows experience distros have come leaps, and bounds in recent years in terms of simplicity.
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I read online that Linux OS is much more secured than windows OS so how about running a crypto wallet on Linux OS instead? Anyone running wallet on Linux OS on here? .
Linux is much better than Windows for several reasons, and main one is that everything is open source and code is available for anyone to see and contribute.
Most malware is made for windows with executable files that simply won't work in most Linux operating system.
There is small elarning curve when you first start to use Linux, but most of the things are very similar with Windows OS.
I tested many crypto wallets in Linux and they are working without issues, maybe for some of them you will need to install extra packages, like for example in Trezor Suite.
Downloading wallets should be complied or downloaded in specific package like deb, but good thing is AppImages that can work across all Linux operating systems.

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