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March 11, 2022, 08:59:26 AM
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The statement of the sanctioning bodies and other giants in the sports industries are heavily biased, they cannot just ban those said athletes and get the fights unsanctioned just because their nationality is Russian is really unreasonable and wrong.

If this cases will remain, then I don't doubt that a time will come that they won't let the said athletes or fighters to join such games or events just because they do not share the same beliefs or views.

I read in one article that they will let Bivol fight Canelo but Bivol will not be allowed to show the Russian flag and they will not allow playing the Russian national anthem, I think that's fair enough they are not banning the boxer but what he represents, I love to see this push through Bivol has never been challenged inside the ring he is always in offense let us see if his offense is that good to challenge's Canelo's defense.
Fair enough, and to be honest, Bivol is somewhat feeling dishearten by the event and might be very ashamed that his country started the war in Europe. So there will be no problem for him not playing the anthem and the flag of Russia.

And hopefully this could be true so that the fight will push as schedule and let Bivol fight as boxers regardless of his nationality and what flag he represented.

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March 11, 2022, 09:58:41 AM
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The statement of the sanctioning bodies and other giants in the sports industries are heavily biased, they cannot just ban those said athletes and get the fights unsanctioned just because their nationality is Russian is really unreasonable and wrong.

If this cases will remain, then I don't doubt that a time will come that they won't let the said athletes or fighters to join such games or events just because they do not share the same beliefs or views.

I read in one article that they will let Bivol fight Canelo but Bivol will not be allowed to show the Russian flag and they will not allow playing the Russian national anthem, I think that's fair enough they are not banning the boxer but what he represents, I love to see this push through Bivol has never been challenged inside the ring he is always in offense let us see if his offense is that good to challenge's Canelo's defense.
Fair enough, and to be honest, Bivol is somewhat feeling dishearten by the event and might be very ashamed that his country started the war in Europe. So there will be no problem for him not playing the anthem and the flag of Russia.

And hopefully this could be true so that the fight will push as schedule and let Bivol fight as boxers regardless of his nationality and what flag he represented.
That's a good decision no organization would want to play and honor the Russian flag and national anthem some people might even disrespect the flag and its national anthem because right now it's not honorable to have the Russian flag in any organization, the world doesn't want to have anything to do with anything Russian, I hope  Bivol will not think of displaying his flag on his boxing trunk.

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March 11, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
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If this cases will remain, then I don't doubt that a time will come that they won't let the said athletes or fighters to join such games or events just because they do not share the same beliefs or views.

And that would make the sports boring. Actually, sports is one of the best ways to unite countries, we compete through sports in a friendly manner and it should remain that way. With politics, the real purpose of sports or competition will not be achieve.

There's a report that the Klitschko brothers believe that Bivol should not be allowed to box

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Asked whether Bivol should also be barred from competing while the invasion takes place, Wladimir Klitschko explained: “It’s nothing against the athletes, it’s about the politics of Russia.

“Every Russian representative in this case needs to be sanctioned because this way we show Russia the world is against this senseless war and there is no good in this war.”

but for me, this is a good fight and every Canelo fight whoever he is fighting is always a great fight I want to see this happen but I'm also supporting boycotting of Russian products.

I have also read this unfortunate news. I don't know how the sanctioning bodies in boxing will react to this call. It is not a far possibility that the sanctioning bodies in boxing will indeed exclude Russian fighters from the sport for now. We all know that there are already other leagues that have announced the exclusion of Russian teams and players. This is temporary of course. This is just to put pressure on Putin in every way possible.

I also read about that, don't know if we got the same article but I somehow read that sanctioning bodies are taking strict actions towards Russian fighter and not allowing them to have any title fights while there's still ongoing war. Yes, this is temporary but this sad news is a big deal specially that it is already set.
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The IBF, WBO, and WBC have taken various actions, the strictest of which has been a decision to, for the time being, not allow any title fights featuring Russian fighters.

If the WBA pulls its sanctioning of Alvarez-Bivol or sponsors begin to pull out, DAZN may lose this fight and have to scramble for a quick replacement to face Alvarez in what was to be their first-ever pay-per-view event. A lot of money could be lost by losing Alvarez-Bivol.

Time will tell how great the pull of money is when stacked up against the pull of international outrage.
The Call to Cancel Canelo vs. Bivol

I don't think there will be a strong international outrage against this considering that the general sentiment of the world's population right now is in favor of Ukraine. We are now seeing a very strong support of all kinds of people from all around the world for Ukraine.

And also, this fight is anticipated probably 99% because of Canelo. Whether the opponent is Bivol or somebody else, there will still be high anticipation.

The fight is supposed to happen in less than two months. There should already be a decision very soon on this because it wouldn't be fair to any boxer who will replace Bivol.

It is quite expected that there will be many foreign country supporting Ukraine of any sorts, everyone is condemning the Russian Federation and its citizens are taking the direct hit.

You bet! Every fight Canelo had is really anticipated by everyone that is fond of boxing. But this time, Canelo is looking forward to defeat the defending champion which is Bivol. I don't think they can find a replacement considering the time left.

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March 11, 2022, 12:41:42 PM
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It is quite expected that there will be many foreign country supporting Ukraine of any sorts, everyone is condemning the Russian Federation and its citizens are taking the direct hit.

You bet! Every fight Canelo had is really anticipated by everyone that is fond of boxing. But this time, Canelo is looking forward to defeat the defending champion which is Bivol. I don't think they can find a replacement considering the time left.

Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

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March 11, 2022, 02:45:36 PM
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Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Yes, exactly and there's no point of mixing the sports and politics because this two are totally different kind of area. I do hope that whatever the conflicts going on with the Russia today may not affect this upcoming fight of Canelo vs. Bivol because I did not doubt that this battle will be one of the most watch battle of Canelo. Based on my own speculation regarding this battle I am rooting for the success of Canelo well because he's an undefeated fighter of his time and that's make him a strong fighter today.
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March 11, 2022, 03:21:53 PM
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Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Yes, exactly and there's no point of mixing the sports and politics because this two are totally different kind of area. I do hope that whatever the conflicts going on with the Russia today may not affect this upcoming fight of Canelo vs. Bivol because I did not doubt that this battle will be one of the most watch battle of Canelo. Based on my own speculation regarding this battle I am rooting for the success of Canelo well because he's an undefeated fighter of his time and that's make him a strong fighter today.

Supporting Canelo to beat the Russian  boxer Bivol  would be a better way than trying to ban the fight to support Ukraine. Politics should be set aside as it will never do good for business, the sports of boxing has been here to entertain people, not the way to kill people's excitement just to support a certain nation.

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March 11, 2022, 09:39:49 PM
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Fighting Canelo is like winning the lottery, similar to what Pacquiao is before, that's why many fighters wanted to have the opportunity not only to fight but have a good pay check as well.

Everyone can intimidated his opponent, but if you don't have the tools then your opponent will just laugh at you. So you also have to back it up and I'm sure Bivol is not going to be intimidated here because he know that he has a puncher's chance.
Without a doubt Bivol has the opportunity of a lifetime, originally Canelo was supposed to move to the cruiserweight division, however there were a lot of issues about who was supposed to be his next opponent.

So it seems that at least for the time being Canelo is not going to move to the cruiserweight division and instead he will fight on the light heavyweight division, even if Bivol losses not only he will get a huge sum of money, sooner or later he will have another shot at winning another belt, and if he happens to win then the rematch would be epic, so no matter what happens Bivol will win a lot with this fight.

but for canelo's camp, don't get too confident because in the recent boxing matches, we have seen upsets. i am confident with canelo's power here but you'll never know once inside the ring. he has to be prepared and his opponent knows his the underdog with about 3.75 odds on him, whereas, canelo is at 1.25, which clearly shows that bookies will favour canelo on this match.
for bivol, it will be a challenge for him, so he won't go inside the ring unprepared. but no matter what, both will have fat pockets afterwards.
Without a doubt Canelo needs to take this fight seriously, after all Bivol is a champion as well and it is not someone that can be taken lightly since he will do everything in his power to try to pull an upset against Canelo.

However I think that as long as Canelo prepares properly for the fight then he should be able to win it, what we do not know is how much of a trouble Bivol could give him? But as long as Bivol does well he does not need to worry about it, as eventually another chance to win a title will be given to him if he has a good performance against Canelo.
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March 11, 2022, 10:37:29 PM
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Like all the other early big fights of Canelo he is the heavy favorite, here only two people out of 30 voters here believe Bivol can beat Canelo, I have this feeling Bivol is the weakest opponent Canelo will face, he lacks defense doesn't have a good lateral movement and flatfooted, something Canelo exploits with that kind of moves.


Alvarez   - 27 (90%)
Bivol   - 2 (6.7%)
Draw   - 1 (3.3%)
Total Voters: 30

It is now 3 votes hehehe. Add me to team Bivol. Also after reviewing some of the posts in this thread, it appears that Dmitry Bivol might be very underestimated for this fight! I do not know Bivol very much, however, after watching videos of his fights, he is certainly an expert in controlling the distance. This might be difficult for Canelo who is shorter in height and in reach, I reckon. Bivol also has power in his left hook and his straight right punch. Similar to Canelo, he also likes punching the body.

In all the fights I've seen on Canelo except the Mayweather fight his opponent's reach and height advantage is useless  Callum is 1.98 cm while Canelo is 1.78 a big difference in height but he makes Smith a short fighter with his timing and body shots he is always an advantage when his opponents are taller than him, he is an exceptionally gifted fighter Bivol may be a good fighter but so are the fighters that Canelo beat.

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March 12, 2022, 02:23:36 AM
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I don't think there will be a strong international outrage against this considering that the general sentiment of the world's population right now is in favor of Ukraine. We are now seeing a very strong support of all kinds of people from all around the world for Ukraine.

And also, this fight is anticipated probably 99% because of Canelo. Whether the opponent is Bivol or somebody else, there will still be high anticipation.

The fight is supposed to happen in less than two months. There should already be a decision very soon on this because it wouldn't be fair to any boxer who will replace Bivol.

It is quite expected that there will be many foreign country supporting Ukraine of any sorts, everyone is condemning the Russian Federation and its citizens are taking the direct hit.

You bet! Every fight Canelo had is really anticipated by everyone that is fond of boxing. But this time, Canelo is looking forward to defeat the defending champion which is Bivol. I don't think they can find a replacement considering the time left.

The support of course is all pouring into Ukraine but I don't think every single Russian citizen should be a victim of sanctions. But I don't think they should remain silent and tolerant of their leader either.

Sadly for Bivol, he is in the wrong place at the wrong time. Although he was born in Kyrgyzstan and his mother is South Korean, his father Moldovan, he might still be affected by possible sanctions because he and his family are living in Russia.

So far, there seems to be no plan of cancelling or postponing this fight. There is also no plan to replace Bivol. I hope this fight will happen.

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March 12, 2022, 05:20:49 AM
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Like all the other early big fights of Canelo he is the heavy favorite, here only two people out of 30 voters here believe Bivol can beat Canelo, I have this feeling Bivol is the weakest opponent Canelo will face, he lacks defense doesn't have a good lateral movement and flatfooted, something Canelo exploits with that kind of moves.


Alvarez   - 27 (90%)
Bivol   - 2 (6.7%)
Draw   - 1 (3.3%)
Total Voters: 30

It is now 3 votes hehehe. Add me to team Bivol. Also after reviewing some of the posts in this thread, it appears that Dmitry Bivol might be very underestimated for this fight! I do not know Bivol very much, however, after watching videos of his fights, he is certainly an expert in controlling the distance. This might be difficult for Canelo who is shorter in height and in reach, I reckon. Bivol also has power in his left hook and his straight right punch. Similar to Canelo, he also likes punching the body.

In all the fights I've seen on Canelo except the Mayweather fight his opponent's reach and height advantage is useless  Callum is 1.98 cm while Canelo is 1.78 a big difference in height but he makes Smith a short fighter with his timing and body shots he is always an advantage when his opponents are taller than him, he is an exceptionally gifted fighter Bivol may be a good fighter but so are the fighters that Canelo beat.

But that lost against Mayweather? Canelo is still relatively unknown in the US and that he is too green at that time. That's why Oscar Dela Hoya is bitter that Canelo bolted away from him and there was even news before the Oscar wanted to fight Canelo. Reason being is that if Oscar didn't give Canelo the exposure that time against Floyd he wouldn't be the big name that he become today.

Nevertheless, he is facing Bivol at Light-Heavyweight, another tougher opponent for him, nevertheless, even if Bivol has the physical advantage, Canelo will have answer for that.

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March 12, 2022, 05:40:58 AM
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Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Yes, exactly and there's no point of mixing the sports and politics because this two are totally different kind of area. I do hope that whatever the conflicts going on with the Russia today may not affect this upcoming fight of Canelo vs. Bivol because I did not doubt that this battle will be one of the most watch battle of Canelo. Based on my own speculation regarding this battle I am rooting for the success of Canelo well because he's an undefeated fighter of his time and that's make him a strong fighter today.

Supporting Canelo to beat the Russian  boxer Bivol  would be a better way than trying to ban the fight to support Ukraine. Politics should be set aside as it will never do good for business, the sports of boxing has been here to entertain people, not the way to kill people's excitement just to support a certain nation.

I will still be neutral but as far as boxing fans goes, Canelo will be the heavy favorite in this fight. I also do agree with most of the posters here, let boxing be boxing, don't include politics into it.

Let this fight happen on May 7 and may the better man win, if Bivol wins then good for him, he will be proud of himself. If Canelo was too strong and won then so be it. It's boxers vs boxers not countries.

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March 12, 2022, 07:48:39 AM
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Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Yes, exactly and there's no point of mixing the sports and politics because this two are totally different kind of area. I do hope that whatever the conflicts going on with the Russia today may not affect this upcoming fight of Canelo vs. Bivol because I did not doubt that this battle will be one of the most watch battle of Canelo. Based on my own speculation regarding this battle I am rooting for the success of Canelo well because he's an undefeated fighter of his time and that's make him a strong fighter today.

Supporting Canelo to beat the Russian  boxer Bivol  would be a better way than trying to ban the fight to support Ukraine. Politics should be set aside as it will never do good for business, the sports of boxing has been here to entertain people, not the way to kill people's excitement just to support a certain nation.

I will still be neutral but as far as boxing fans goes, Canelo will be the heavy favorite in this fight. I also do agree with most of the posters here, let boxing be boxing, don't include politics into it.

Let this fight happen on May 7 and may the better man win, if Bivol wins then good for him, he will be proud of himself. If Canelo was too strong and won then so be it. It's boxers vs boxers not countries.

So do I, I also stand and support Ukraine on this one because we all know that war isn't an answer as many innocent people on both sides will seriously suffer in this conflict. I hope the sanctioning bodies will re-assess their new implementation, these people have nothing to do with Putin. Let them deliver entertainment not hatred towards the sports.
There's no news regarding if this fight will continue or not but I do hope that this will continue without any restrictions to Bivol.

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March 12, 2022, 08:16:07 AM
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Like all the other early big fights of Canelo he is the heavy favorite, here only two people out of 30 voters here believe Bivol can beat Canelo, I have this feeling Bivol is the weakest opponent Canelo will face, he lacks defense doesn't have a good lateral movement and flatfooted, something Canelo exploits with that kind of moves.


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Bivol   - 2 (6.7%)
Draw   - 1 (3.3%)
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It is now 3 votes hehehe. Add me to team Bivol. Also after reviewing some of the posts in this thread, it appears that Dmitry Bivol might be very underestimated for this fight! I do not know Bivol very much, however, after watching videos of his fights, he is certainly an expert in controlling the distance. This might be difficult for Canelo who is shorter in height and in reach, I reckon. Bivol also has power in his left hook and his straight right punch. Similar to Canelo, he also likes punching the body.

In all the fights I've seen on Canelo except the Mayweather fight his opponent's reach and height advantage is useless  Callum is 1.98 cm while Canelo is 1.78 a big difference in height but he makes Smith a short fighter with his timing and body shots he is always an advantage when his opponents are taller than him, he is an exceptionally gifted fighter Bivol may be a good fighter but so are the fighters that Canelo beat.

However, watch the style of Bivol. He is a master of controlling his distance. This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol. Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

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This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol.

If Bivol is like that, Canelo will surely know how to handle that type of fighter.

In his total record, there should be a boxer that Canelo fought before who also like to distance.

There's also no mentioned regarding that by some analysis that makes me think it can't be consider as an advantage for Bivol.

Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

That was supposed to be the usual thing to happen to any boxer that moving up weight but contrary to that, analyst even says that Canelo shouldn't have a problem with that.

That's also one of the reason why Canelo is the favorite to win the match even he's the one that is taking the challenge.

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March 12, 2022, 01:47:23 PM
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it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

No, it's not, it's actually his second time to fight in the light heavyweight he won the WBO light heavyweight by knocking out Sergey Kovalev, there's really no difference because he can still move lightly and powerful in the light heavyweight, he has a great team I'm sure they will take care of business.

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March 12, 2022, 02:03:35 PM
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However, watch the style of Bivol. He is a master of controlling his distance. This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol. Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

You are not updated on Canelo's career he is once a light heavyweight champion when he knocks out Kovalev back in 2019, Kovalev for me is a far better boxer than Bivol when it comes to boxing in distance, he has a lot of success fighting boxers that are taller than him and love to move, Canelo is a master in cutting the ring, unfortunately for Bivol he is not really taller than Canelo compared to Callum Smith
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It is quite expected that there will be many foreign country supporting Ukraine of any sorts, everyone is condemning the Russian Federation and its citizens are taking the direct hit.

You bet! Every fight Canelo had is really anticipated by everyone that is fond of boxing. But this time, Canelo is looking forward to defeat the defending champion which is Bivol. I don't think they can find a replacement considering the time left.

Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Nah, I don't think it that way. The boxing industry and other sports industries are restricting Russian contender to show support to Ukraine and that they are condemning the Russian president, Vladimir Putin. It may sound political but it's not.
It's totally fine if the sanctioning bodies will impose a restriction that the Russian anthem and flag is not allowed in the fight, but banning them and getting their fights unsanctioned? That's too far.

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The statement of the sanctioning bodies and other giants in the sports industries are heavily biased, they cannot just ban those said athletes and get the fights unsanctioned just because their nationality is Russian is really unreasonable and wrong.

If this cases will remain, then I don't doubt that a time will come that they won't let the said athletes or fighters to join such games or events just because they do not share the same beliefs or views.

I read in one article that they will let Bivol fight Canelo but Bivol will not be allowed to show the Russian flag and they will not allow playing the Russian national anthem, I think that's fair enough they are not banning the boxer but what he represents, I love to see this push through Bivol has never been challenged inside the ring he is always in offense let us see if his offense is that good to challenge's Canelo's defense.
To me that would be enough of a compromise, we need to understand there are many Russians that are against the war but due to the absolute power that Putin holds there is nothing they can do, so not only they have to endure the economic sanctions as everyone else, but they have to have their name being thrown together with those that support the war, something that is completely unfair, so as long as Bivol is fine with fighting without any references to Russia then I think the fight should still go forward.



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March 12, 2022, 09:49:55 PM
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Canelo alvarez must take this fight as one of his big fight cause his opponent is more just easy to handle and we all know that Dmitry Bivol is a champion and a good fighter so without a doubt he is still have a chance to win against canelo.
And if. Canelo wants to fight GGG in the next fight after this is he must win these fight first.
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March 12, 2022, 10:55:43 PM
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As to be expected, the poll results are heavily favoring Canelo.

Alvarez   - 28 (87.5%)
Bivol   - 3 (9.4%)
Draw   - 1 (3.1%)

I don't think there's anyone in his weight class who can really compete with him right now.  A shame because he's a great fighter and I don't see any great fights in his near future.  Bivol appears to just be the next victim.  Maybe we'll get a surprise, but I'll be putting my money on Canelo for this one.  Anything other than a victory for him would be a bit of a surprise.  Hopefully the sport of boxing will get a little more competitive now that the Paul brothers have brought some new blood to the sport because UFC has left boxing with a bit to be desired.

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