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Question: Who will win this fight?
Alvarez - 36 (83.7%)
Bivol - 5 (11.6%)
Draw - 2 (4.7%)
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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7  (Read 3061 times)
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March 16, 2022, 05:53:58 PM
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I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.

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March 16, 2022, 06:19:20 PM
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I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.
Fair or not, this has been agreed and like it or not, this must be done in order to maintain professionalism, for sure Bivol cannot be absent again with a predetermined schedule.
It's quite difficult to do but on the other hand he must also know there will be consequences if he doesn't play this fight because this will definitely have consequences.

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March 16, 2022, 11:07:22 PM
 #223

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.
Fair or not, this has been agreed and like it or not, this must be done in order to maintain professionalism, for sure Bivol cannot be absent again with a predetermined schedule.
It's quite difficult to do but on the other hand he must also know there will be consequences if he doesn't play this fight because this will definitely have consequences.
He wont be have any choice but to proceed and fight Canelo despite of the current condition of his country or on his family on which it could really affect him mentally but
he needs to be at least focused and concentrated for this upcoming fight even though its hard to ignore but he should do his best.I dont see for this fight to be unfair.
There are really just things in life which do comes unexpectedly but doesnt mean that you couldnt make out any adjustments.

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March 16, 2022, 11:17:13 PM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

His family lives in Russia, out of the sounds of the war as they are safe there compare to Ukraine that already been under attack. Russia also seems fine even they have lots of economic sanctions. I don't see he will be distracted by his family but by what his country is doing. But since there will be a task to do, I'm sure he is focusing on his training as that's necessary.

Canelo Alvarez is a tough man to beat and Bivol should always be on his relaxed mindset condition to be able to train hard and wise.

There are stakes at risk on this match and both parties understand that losing is not an option.
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March 16, 2022, 11:30:14 PM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

Yeah, if could have a direct or indirect effect on him, even if his family is far from the war and safe, you can still think that your country is in war with your fellow Russians and there have been bloodshed of innocent people. And for sure the media will go after this premise if they have the time to interview Bivol in the promotion of this fight.
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March 17, 2022, 12:01:36 AM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

As a normal human being, this kind of thoughts are relevant. Even Bivol can be physically fit to fight Canelo
his mental capabilities are not 100% focus, as I agree with both of you. It's not an excuse, but possible to affect him inside.

Still have to wait if this fight will going to happen due to this ongoing war.

Rumors might interrupt, but since there's no final word, both fighters are preparing and fans, if not all, most of them are
calling for this fight and see Canelo inside the ring again.

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March 17, 2022, 12:32:50 AM
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I definitely doubt that sponsors will back out, this event is a big one and I don't think they want to lose some good money as for them boxing is still a business.

Actually, it's not that the sponsors or organizers will back out but since there is a lot of pressure put on Russia, that will be one of the reasons why the fight will be delayed. Fortunately, no rumors or any leaks that the fight won't happen, at least for now, so we should just keep positive that it will really push.

And since it's about 2 months before this fight happened, we should also look forward that the situation between Russia and Ukraine will somehow ease within that period.

Moving back to this upcoming Bivol fight, we will probably see the adjustment since he will be facing a much bigger and stronger opponent.

The same goes for Canelo as that was his first fight after stepping up. It's a new challenge for him.

so far, no indication of suspending or postponing the fight. i understand, bivol is russian here, but this is not political arena that we are in. though we can't assure if endorsers and other big sponsors will not pull out at the last minute affecting this match.
will this war situation affect bivol in terms of his mental health or preparation of training, we don't know? we know that canelo is already a big star and can pull off good audience, so boxing fans are excited with this match. just hope that everything will be in place and push thru this event.

About mental health, I don't think it will hit Bivol directly to the point that he will remain unfocused and distracted. Maybe there's a bit of thinking about the situation but he surely knows how to handle it. Lots of things he needs to do as preparation for Canelo. And aside from that, he will be used on it while days, weeks, months are passes by.

It's no secret that he is worried about his friends in Ukraine and hoping for the war to end, Dmitry Bivol Just Wants the War in Ukraine to End, but remaining focus on his upcoming match will always be his priority. Even there's a call that he shouldn't fight as a sign of condemning Russia, it's up to the higher-ups to make the decision. He is really stuck between the lines and should be careful about his future decision.

Right now, I trust his camp that they are doing everything to make Bivol comfortable and be focus for the preparation on their next challenge.

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March 17, 2022, 09:00:57 AM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

He should be immune to this kind of noise, maybe it will affect him if Russia is the one being bombarded, but it 's the other way around. So he can continue with his normal training and focus on the fight itself and just have communications with his family. They are not going to be trapped in this war, they could have been in a safe place by now.

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March 17, 2022, 04:48:12 PM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

As a normal human being, this kind of thoughts are relevant. Even Bivol can be physically fit to fight Canelo
his mental capabilities are not 100% focus, as I agree with both of you. It's not an excuse, but possible to affect him inside.

Still have to wait if this fight will going to happen due to this ongoing war.

Rumors might interrupt, but since there's no final word, both fighters are preparing and fans, if not all, most of them are
calling for this fight and see Canelo inside the ring again.

We can completely understand Bivol's situation here because he is just a professional boxer with no quarrels on either countries but he is directly affected on the issue because he's Russian and his big fight against Canelo has some issues with the same matter while he is also thinking about his family. We can't possibly say that he's 100% focus.

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March 17, 2022, 06:26:08 PM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

He should be immune to this kind of noise, maybe it will affect him if Russia is the one being bombarded, but it 's the other way around. So he can continue with his normal training and focus on the fight itself and just have communications with his family. They are not going to be trapped in this war, they could have been in a safe place by now.

No one has been really prepared enough about these things, who would have thought that a war will happen while he's getting his biggest fight in his career. So of course he will be quite distracted for a while and it will take some time before he will be immune about this kind of noise.

And the other thing is he is getting some issues just because of his nationality and a possible sanctions on his upcoming fight.
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March 17, 2022, 07:34:49 PM
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Fair or not, this has been agreed and like it or not, this must be done in order to maintain professionalism, for sure Bivol cannot be absent again with a predetermined schedule.
It's quite difficult to do but on the other hand he must also know there will be consequences if he doesn't play this fight because this will definitely have consequences.
He wont be have any choice but to proceed and fight Canelo despite of the current condition of his country or on his family on which it could really affect him mentally but
he needs to be at least focused and concentrated for this upcoming fight even though its hard to ignore but he should do his best.I dont see for this fight to be unfair.
There are really just things in life which do comes unexpectedly but doesnt mean that you couldnt make out any adjustments.
That's right because otherwise he would definitely be labeled as a fighter who did avoid the opponent as happened to Inoe who avoided Casimero and until now it has become a mockery for him.
I don't think Bivol wants this to stick with him because indirectly even if he fought well in other battles if he evades now it will be remembered.
Professionalism is one thing that is quite mandatory and indeed he must be prepared for unexpected consequences and things like this

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March 17, 2022, 09:23:06 PM
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Sure he is! Canelo is without a doubt a man of discipline that's why he achieved those feats that not everyone could achieve. Canelo is very different in every fight because he's trying to catch and observe his opponent first and afterwards he will make some move and try to connect more.

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.
I can understand what you are saying but I would not say that is unfair, after all it is not as if Canelo went to look for a fight against Bivol trying to exploit the fact that it would be difficult for him to concentrate on the fight.

Canelo was supposed to move to a different division but since there were some issues there he decided to instead fight Bivol, and he did so when there was no war yet, so while the circumstances are without a doubt unfavorable for Bivol I do not think it is quite correct to call it unfair.
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March 17, 2022, 09:29:47 PM
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Sure he is! Canelo is without a doubt a man of discipline that's why he achieved those feats that not everyone could achieve. Canelo is very different in every fight because he's trying to catch and observe his opponent first and afterwards he will make some move and try to connect more.

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.
I can understand what you are saying but I would not say that is unfair, after all it is not as if Canelo went to look for a fight against Bivol trying to exploit the fact that it would be difficult for him to concentrate on the fight.

Canelo was supposed to move to a different division but since there were some issues there he decided to instead fight Bivol, and he did so when there was no war yet, so while the circumstances are without a doubt unfavorable for Bivol I do not think it is quite correct to call it unfair.

I wouldn't say it's unfair either.  It's not like these guys have much time to watch the news while they're in training.  Sure, he's probably got some concerns about family and friends, but likely he's so focused on what he's doing that he's tuning out the outside noise.  If not, he probably won't be a professional fighter for long. 

If I was going to say the fight was unfair, I would do so in that I don't think Bivol can match up against Canelo.  This fight seems like something to earn a check and stay in shape while waiting for a bigger fight.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd be putting my money on Canelo if I were going to be betting on this one...

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March 17, 2022, 10:07:12 PM
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I definitely doubt that sponsors will back out, this event is a big one and I don't think they want to lose some good money as for them boxing is still a business.

Actually, it's not that the sponsors or organizers will back out but since there is a lot of pressure put on Russia, that will be one of the reasons why the fight will be delayed. Fortunately, no rumors or any leaks that the fight won't happen, at least for now, so we should just keep positive that it will really push.

And since it's about 2 months before this fight happened, we should also look forward that the situation between Russia and Ukraine will somehow ease within that period.

Moving back to this upcoming Bivol fight, we will probably see the adjustment since he will be facing a much bigger and stronger opponent.

The same goes for Canelo as that was his first fight after stepping up. It's a new challenge for him.

so far, no indication of suspending or postponing the fight. i understand, bivol is russian here, but this is not political arena that we are in. though we can't assure if endorsers and other big sponsors will not pull out at the last minute affecting this match.
will this war situation affect bivol in terms of his mental health or preparation of training, we don't know? we know that canelo is already a big star and can pull off good audience, so boxing fans are excited with this match. just hope that everything will be in place and push thru this event.
Many people are now expecting to see this fight, I don't know, I think that the fact that Bivol is Russian will not affect him much in the ring, but I think that outside the ring it will, and a lot, I imagine if this fight takes place, the They will boo a lot just for being Russian, and I think they will criticize a lot the fact that the fight takes place, but this is where I emphasize something, I do not think that this fight will be suspended because of the business model that exists for the sponsors It is very big and aside from the money that each boxer will take, many are waiting for Canelo vs. Inoue, but right now the fact that it is with Bivol makes it something more interesting.

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March 17, 2022, 10:18:42 PM
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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

His family lives in Russia, out of the sounds of the war as they are safe there compare to Ukraine that already been under attack. Russia also seems fine even they have lots of economic sanctions. I don't see he will be distracted by his family but by what his country is doing. But since there will be a task to do, I'm sure he is focusing on his training as that's necessary.

Canelo Alvarez is a tough man to beat and Bivol should always be on his relaxed mindset condition to be able to train hard and wise.

There are stakes at risk on this match and both parties understand that losing is not an option.


Canelo Alvarez is indeed a tough man to beat and I somewhat doubt the rumor going about that he is distracted by fears and doubts of uncertainty with his family living in Russia in the current international situation of the war in Ukraine. Alvarez has always been quite concentrated on his training and his fights. If he was that troubled he could easily get his family out of there. People are fleeing out of Russia and nobody is stopping them.

So the question isn't about Canelo Alvarez's mental health. He is strong and ready.

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March 17, 2022, 11:59:08 PM
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His family lives in Russia, out of the sounds of the war as they are safe there compare to Ukraine that already been under attack. Russia also seems fine even they have lots of economic sanctions. I don't see he will be distracted by his family but by what his country is doing. But since there will be a task to do, I'm sure he is focusing on his training as that's necessary.

Canelo Alvarez is a tough man to beat and Bivol should always be on his relaxed mindset condition to be able to train hard and wise.

There are stakes at risk on this match and both parties understand that losing is not an option.


Canelo Alvarez is indeed a tough man to beat and I somewhat doubt the rumor going about that he is distracted by fears and doubts of uncertainty with his family living in Russia in the current international situation of the war in Ukraine. Alvarez has always been quite concentrated on his training and his fights. If he was that troubled he could easily get his family out of there. People are fleeing out of Russia and nobody is stopping them.

So the question isn't about Canelo Alvarez's mental health. He is strong and ready.

We are not talking about Canelo Alvarez here. It's Dmitry Bivol who lived in Russia and has friends there and also in Ukraine. Right now, there's no danger in Russia as the invasion is happening in Ukraine. That's where Bivol concerned is although I'm sure he already understands that and trusts everything in the future that everything will be ok.

He won't be distracted on his ongoing practice and his team will help them do that. Not unless the situation got worst (no-no. There's a rumor that the fight might be delayed or canceled due to the ongoing conflict but let's remain positive it won't happen.

Defeating Canelo must only be on his mind. He should focus on that as much as he can.
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March 18, 2022, 01:31:36 AM
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We are not talking about Canelo Alvarez here. It's Dmitry Bivol who lived in Russia and has friends there and also in Ukraine. Right now, there's no danger in Russia as the invasion is happening in Ukraine. That's where Bivol concerned is although I'm sure he already understands that and trusts everything in the future that everything will be ok.

He won't be distracted on his ongoing practice and his team will help them do that. Not unless the situation got worst (no-no. There's a rumor that the fight might be delayed or canceled due to the ongoing conflict but let's remain positive it won't happen.

Defeating Canelo must only be on his mind. He should focus on that as much as he can.

Oh I misunderstood then. I thought this was about his family living in Russia or something. Unfortunately I do not know a lot about Alvarez's family.  My logical thinking went for a walk in the park for a moment. Its obvious to me now that you are talking about the family of the russian boxxer.

If what you say about Dmitry Bivol having family in Ukraine is true then I guess it would make sense that that could put him off during the fight. Can't really throw a good punch in a state of constant worry... That might throw his concentration off. Or it might not. I don't know a lot about Bivol and his fighting career.

But the point still stands about any Russian who wants to get out of Russia can currently get out. As you said, there is no war in Russia.  

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March 18, 2022, 02:09:07 AM
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I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.

He cannot take that as an excuse he is a professional boxer, he should train and fight like a professional boxer his country is not under siege he should not worry at all, in fact, he should be motivated to win because he has given a chance to fight the number one pound for pound and a win will catapult his career to a new height, this is his biggest fight and a fight that will define his career.

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March 18, 2022, 03:12:57 AM
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I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.

He cannot take that as an excuse he is a professional boxer, he should train and fight like a professional boxer his country is not under siege he should not worry at all, in fact, he should be motivated to win because he has given a chance to fight the number one pound for pound and a win will catapult his career to a new height, this is his biggest fight and a fight that will define his career.

I agree. Bivol should not be distracted too much from what is happening right now. It is not his country that is under heavy bombardment. It is not Russia that is being invaded right now. He should not be worried about his family back home because nobody is attacking them. There is not even a single missile that is hitting Russia right now. So Bivol doesn't have any excuse using the safety of his family back home. If he is troubled by what's happening in Ukraine, we all are.
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March 18, 2022, 03:56:32 AM
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Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.
I am totally agree with you. Canelo is unique champion. Throughout his career he has enhanced his boxing skills. The only way Bivol wins this fight is by decision. He is a very good fighter but hasnt knocked anyone out in 4 years. And with someone like Canelo that has a granite chin, dont see him stopped in this fight. And maybe there's a chance that he will K.O Bivol.
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