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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7  (Read 3061 times)
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March 23, 2022, 07:45:53 PM
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We never know what it may happen, for example the US may forbid any Russian athletes to perform on their country forcing a relocation of the fight or its cancellation, sponsors may boycott the fight, the US fans of boxing are one of the main consumers of PPV and they may boycott the fight as well, the WBA could avoid sanctioning the fight and as such it would not be a title fight anymore, so when we think about all the things that could happen then we can see the fight could be canceled at any moment.

Lets not speculate things and remain positive until we see any official announcement of the cancellation of this match. This match is to be played on May 07, and by that time the conflict between Ukraine and Russia would be over and things would be normal by then.
Let us hope that is the case, I want to see this fight since Bivol is going to be a an interesting rival for Canelo, however it is undeniable that there is a risk the fight could be canceled, so while I agree that we must remain positive at the same time we cannot close our eyes to the truth, which is that the cancellation of the fight is a real possibility and it is something that could happen sooner or later whether we like it or not.

Nothing is certain and up to date there's no update to this fight, I also hope that it will proceed fans already missed Canelo and with this fight he will be test again, he's facing a much stronger and tougher opponent, he went up to this new division viewers expect him to adjust and with the fans; they are expecting him to be the same dominating fighter.

We will see that once the fight proceeds and both fighters are inside the ring, let see if how Canelo will adjust with the kind of opponent's Bivol like.

We will see if we can receive some good or bad updates next month as there could be some delays that will happen in line of the Russia and Ukraine conflict but I'm also looking forward just like you guys that this fight will happen in the exact scheduled date this 7th of May.

Other than that, worrying or speculating too much won't help.



Seems that there ain't something to worry about their upcoming fight because both camps are so silent and busy now preparing for the fight and also the match is scheduled this May so there's still a lot can happen in just a month like (hopefully) the war between the Russia and Ukraine will end.

I've read that Dmitry Bivol is confident that he can upset Canelo Alvarez.
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On what he can do against Canelo that others couldn’t:
“I’m a different fighter. I’m a light heavyweight, I have good speed, I have good power. Every fighter is different. It means every fight will be different.”

On the keys to beating Canelo:
“To be honest, I just need to do my job, what I do best. It’s a good jab, good movement, and sometimes more pressure, sometimes go back. Everything I can do. If I do it well, I will win. I believe it.”
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March 23, 2022, 10:50:57 PM
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I've read that Dmitry Bivol is confident that he can upset Canelo Alvarez.
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On what he can do against Canelo that others couldn’t:
“I’m a different fighter. I’m a light heavyweight, I have good speed, I have good power. Every fighter is different. It means every fight will be different.”

On the keys to beating Canelo:
“To be honest, I just need to do my job, what I do best. It’s a good jab, good movement, and sometimes more pressure, sometimes go back. Everything I can do. If I do it well, I will win. I believe it.”
source

I have to disagree with the others that Bivol is the underdog in this match. Even odds tell that way, still Canelo is the guest here on Bivol's stage. He's already used on fighting at Light Heavyweight.

Upset Canelo? It's better if Canelo will be the one that has to upset Bivol.

Canelo is the one challenging him. Bivol is undefeated and just waiting for any challenge.
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March 23, 2022, 11:41:53 PM
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I've read that Dmitry Bivol is confident that he can upset Canelo Alvarez.
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On what he can do against Canelo that others couldn’t:
“I’m a different fighter. I’m a light heavyweight, I have good speed, I have good power. Every fighter is different. It means every fight will be different.”

On the keys to beating Canelo:
“To be honest, I just need to do my job, what I do best. It’s a good jab, good movement, and sometimes more pressure, sometimes go back. Everything I can do. If I do it well, I will win. I believe it.”
source

I have to disagree with the others that Bivol is the underdog in this match. Even odds tell that way, still Canelo is the guest here on Bivol's stage. He's already used on fighting at Light Heavyweight.

Upset Canelo? It's better if Canelo will be the one that has to upset Bivol.

Canelo is the one challenging him. Bivol is undefeated and just waiting for any challenge.

I guess it just how Canelo is destroying his every opponent in his last 5-6 fights. So odd makers have put Canelo as the favorite in this fight.

And although Bivol has been winning as well and undefeated and a champion, he hasn't face a fighter with Canelo's level. And he is mostly fighting in Europe wherein he is not exposed to any fighters with different styles. Canelo as well has fought once in 175 lbs and win against Kovalev. So the odds is stuck against Bivol. But if he upset Canelo then it will sent shock in the boxing world.
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March 23, 2022, 11:53:46 PM
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We will see if we can receive some good or bad updates next month as there could be some delays that will happen in line of the Russia and Ukraine conflict but I'm also looking forward just like you guys that this fight will happen in the exact scheduled date this 7th of May.

Other than that, worrying or speculating too much won't help.

We can speculate but not on the topic if the fight will continue or not. If the fight failed, then it means we are also doomed as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine now becoming more sensitive and dangerous.

The fight between Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will surely happen without a problem. No sanctions that it will be a non-title fight.

Let's be positive on that and we just have to share speculations on how they will fight.
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March 24, 2022, 07:01:09 AM
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We can speculate but not on the topic if the fight will continue or not. If the fight failed, then it means we are also doomed as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine now becoming more sensitive and dangerous.

The fight between Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will surely happen without a problem. No sanctions that it will be a non-title fight.

Let's be positive on that and we just have to share speculations on how they will fight.
The focus of the discussion is more effectively on speculation of fighting strategy in the boxing ring . I think the fight will continue and the team behind the scenes will work fully to find a solution, without sanctions and without changes to the match schedule. Although Canelo is far superior with a record 39 KO compared to Bivol, but Bivol fighting skills are so good lately that he will be the toughest challenger against Canelo in the match on 7 May, I'm not sure Canelo can add a record number of KO in that match, my prediction is that the match will end at the referee's decision.

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March 24, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
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We can speculate but not on the topic if the fight will continue or not. If the fight failed, then it means we are also doomed as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine now becoming more sensitive and dangerous.

The fight between Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will surely happen without a problem. No sanctions that it will be a non-title fight.

Let's be positive on that and we just have to share speculations on how they will fight.
The focus of the discussion is more effectively on speculation of fighting strategy in the boxing ring . I think the fight will continue and the team behind the scenes will work fully to find a solution, without sanctions and without changes to the match schedule. Although Canelo is far superior with a record 39 KO compared to Bivol, but Bivol fighting skills are so good lately that he will be the toughest challenger against Canelo in the match on 7 May, I'm not sure Canelo can add a record number of KO in that match, my prediction is that the match will end at the referee's decision.

You mean end it up on the judges hand by scoring the fight? Possible as Bivol has a good chin as well and this is his division so maybe he will have a fighting chance to extend the fight for full 12 rounds. But then again, he will be fighting on Cinco de Mayo, and Mexican holiday so it will be all Canelo Alvarez and I doubt that Bivol will be given the chance to win in the judges score card unless it is very clear that he had won, otherwise many will cry that it was an robbery. So as we have discussed, Bivol will have to win by KO in this match or a very believable win in the judges eye.
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You mean end it up on the judges hand by scoring the fight? Possible as Bivol has a good chin as well and this is his division so maybe he will have a fighting chance to extend the fight for full 12 rounds. But then again, he will be fighting on Cinco de Mayo, and Mexican holiday so it will be all Canelo Alvarez and I doubt that Bivol will be given the chance to win in the judges score card unless it is very clear that he had won, otherwise many will cry that it was an robbery. So as we have discussed, Bivol will have to win by KO in this match or a very believable win in the judges eye.
I believe Erep was referring to judges instead of referee, now going back, I do hope that this fight between Canelo Alvarez vs. Dmitry Bivol will be push through despite of the sanctions that richest countries proposing to Russia. I don't think so this kind of political crisis may affect the boxing career of Bivol. I do believe that this upcoming fight of Canelo will be a challenging fight for both fighter that's why they must need to focus on their respective training.
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March 24, 2022, 12:00:44 PM
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Upset Canelo? It's better if Canelo will be the one that has to upset Bivol.

Canelo is the one challenging him. Bivol is undefeated and just waiting for any challenge.

Yeah, it was Canelo who is the challenger but in the eyes of the fans, Canelo is the favorite to win here.
So on betting side, if Canelo would lose, it will be Bivol upsetting Canelo, while on the sports side, it's the opposite because of the position they are in now.

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Upset Canelo? It's better if Canelo will be the one that has to upset Bivol.

Canelo is the one challenging him. Bivol is undefeated and just waiting for any challenge.

Yeah, it was Canelo who is the challenger but in the eyes of the fans, Canelo is the favorite to win here.
So on betting side, if Canelo would lose, it will be Bivol upsetting Canelo, while on the sports side, it's the opposite because of the position they are in now.

The same situation with the Pacman vs Ugas fight, although Ugas was the champion, but after the fight it was reported that Ugas upset Pacman in a fight because that's how the majority sees, they favor the popular fighter and some does not even know what belt these boxers are fighting for.
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The same situation with the Pacman vs Ugas fight, although Ugas was the champion, but after the fight it was reported that Ugas upset Pacman in a fight because that's how the majority sees, they favor the popular fighter and some does not even know what belt these boxers are fighting for.

Not totally the same situation because Ugas just got the Title due to Pacquiao's inactivity.

Therefore, the fight becomes a challenge for Ugas to prove he is really deserving of that title which he did by upsetting Manny Pacquiao as a defender.

Back to Canelo vs Bivol, the former will make an entry to Bivol's weight class, the undefeated one. Since Canelo is popular, maybe that's the reason he becomes a Favorite but for me, it's Bivol and Canelo instead is the underdog.
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March 24, 2022, 06:42:24 PM
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I've read that Dmitry Bivol is confident that he can upset Canelo Alvarez.
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On what he can do against Canelo that others couldn’t:
“I’m a different fighter. I’m a light heavyweight, I have good speed, I have good power. Every fighter is different. It means every fight will be different.”

On the keys to beating Canelo:
“To be honest, I just need to do my job, what I do best. It’s a good jab, good movement, and sometimes more pressure, sometimes go back. Everything I can do. If I do it well, I will win. I believe it.”
source

I have to disagree with the others that Bivol is the underdog in this match. Even odds tell that way, still Canelo is the guest here on Bivol's stage. He's already used on fighting at Light Heavyweight.

Upset Canelo? It's better if Canelo will be the one that has to upset Bivol.

Canelo is the one challenging him. Bivol is undefeated and just waiting for any challenge.

Well, Bivol is already viewed as an underdog here while Canelo is the favorite and that doesn't surprised me anymore because that is already expected to happen and while you're right that Canelo is just a guest in Bivol's division, we cannot also forget that Canelo is already in this division before and beat Sergey Kovalev with a KO in the 11th round.

Don't take it hard buddy, we're just both sharing speculation together with the facts Grin Anyways, we will see who will win soon.

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March 25, 2022, 04:14:32 AM
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You can go back a few pages back and see that we have touch base this topic already.

We are now speculating on how Bivol can win against Canelo because it will be a very difficult task for him since Canelo seems to be very formidable at 160-175 lbs division, to that point that it seems that no one can beat him right now. So we are laying down potential scenarios on how Bivol can win but it will be a long shot and it's more of Canelo side screwing this up, but we don't see it happening as well.
I don't think there is  much  left in discussing this debate - both the boxers are great and they have their strengths, but like many things coming against Russia. This match will not be happening in near future. Boxing fans will definitely miss an interesting match. May this uncertainty ends soon
there is nothing we can do but to wait now because indeed as you said the Russia and Ukraine issues are still having an impact on anyone and anything dealing with Russia.
Bivol is currently in a dilemma but indeed he also can't do much now just wait and obey the rules. Regardless of what's happening now it's just a matter of waiting for regulations and decisions that will happen but as you said this is definitely not going to happen in the near future
I think that Bivol is a person who makes this fight interesting, on the one hand there is the war conflict that does not allow any Russian athlete to participate, however in boxing no one has spoken, because I know that there is a lot of money here moving, and on the other hand there is speculation if Bivol could really be the surprise in this fight, although we cannot put aside that Canelo has all the favoritism to win, the statistics now more than ever favor him, for me this will be one of the most anticipated fights.

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March 25, 2022, 05:07:13 AM
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I've read that Dmitry Bivol is confident that he can upset Canelo Alvarez.
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On what he can do against Canelo that others couldn’t:
“I’m a different fighter. I’m a light heavyweight, I have good speed, I have good power. Every fighter is different. It means every fight will be different.”

On the keys to beating Canelo:
“To be honest, I just need to do my job, what I do best. It’s a good jab, good movement, and sometimes more pressure, sometimes go back. Everything I can do. If I do it well, I will win. I believe it.”
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I have to disagree with the others that Bivol is the underdog in this match. Even odds tell that way, still Canelo is the guest here on Bivol's stage. He's already used on fighting at Light Heavyweight.

Upset Canelo? It's better if Canelo will be the one that has to upset Bivol.

Canelo is the one challenging him. Bivol is undefeated and just waiting for any challenge.

I disagree with your disagreement hehehe. However, I only agree on your speculation if you are making a bet on Bivol. Everyone has already witnessed that Canelo is something similar to Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio. They are the kings of the sport of boxing. But there is a chance for Bivol and he might be underestimated for this. I speculate Bivol's left hook, right uppercut might knockdown Canelo.

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March 25, 2022, 06:39:01 AM
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Well, Bivol is already viewed as an underdog here while Canelo is the favorite and that doesn't surprised me anymore because that is already expected to happen and while you're right that Canelo is just a guest in Bivol's division, we cannot also forget that Canelo is already in this division before and beat Sergey Kovalev with a KO in the 11th round.

Don't take it hard buddy, we're just both sharing speculation together with the facts Grin Anyways, we will see who will win soon.

And then we will all go back here and be reminded by all the speculations that we have shared.

We never know who will win until we heard it from the announcers, what about a possible draw? are you biting that possibilities too?

aside from Canelo's being heavy favorite we are all also excited on how Bivol will react and counter that advantage and try to beat Alvarez!
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March 26, 2022, 12:45:25 PM
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You can go back a few pages back and see that we have touch base this topic already.

We are now speculating on how Bivol can win against Canelo because it will be a very difficult task for him since Canelo seems to be very formidable at 160-175 lbs division, to that point that it seems that no one can beat him right now. So we are laying down potential scenarios on how Bivol can win but it will be a long shot and it's more of Canelo side screwing this up, but we don't see it happening as well.
I don't think there is  much  left in discussing this debate - both the boxers are great and they have their strengths, but like many things coming against Russia. This match will not be happening in near future. Boxing fans will definitely miss an interesting match. May this uncertainty ends soon
there is nothing we can do but to wait now because indeed as you said the Russia and Ukraine issues are still having an impact on anyone and anything dealing with Russia.
Bivol is currently in a dilemma but indeed he also can't do much now just wait and obey the rules. Regardless of what's happening now it's just a matter of waiting for regulations and decisions that will happen but as you said this is definitely not going to happen in the near future
I think that Bivol is a person who makes this fight interesting, on the one hand there is the war conflict that does not allow any Russian athlete to participate, however in boxing no one has spoken, because I know that there is a lot of money here moving, and on the other hand there is speculation if Bivol could really be the surprise in this fight, although we cannot put aside that Canelo has all the favoritism to win, the statistics now more than ever favor him, for me this will be one of the most anticipated fights.

This fight will surely be an interesting fight to watch and it's been the most anticipated fight of the year because Canelo is sure the favorite here but the people's opinion are divided too because we cannot neglect that Dmitry Bivol surely have that chance to upset Canelo, after all this is his division so he is somehow adept in this weight while Canelo may have fought once in this division previously but he is still just a guest.

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March 26, 2022, 01:04:01 PM
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I disagree with your disagreement hehehe. However, I only agree on your speculation if you are making a bet on Bivol. Everyone has already witnessed that Canelo is something similar to Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio. They are the kings of the sport of boxing. But there is a chance for Bivol and he might be underestimated for this. I speculate Bivol's left hook, right uppercut might knockdown Canelo.

You cannot teach a dog a new technique in just a short period of time, you cannot teach Bivol to be a Mayweather on this fight before he can land that left hook and uppercut Canelo has already created a space and do a counter, I have seen Canelo's first loss so many times and unless you have the quickness and defense of Mayweather your chances to beat Canelo is slim, you cannot go toe to toe to Alvarez that will make you an easy target and at the same time you cannot hit him if you are facing him directly, you need a lot of movements and faking to beat Canelo.
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This fight will surely be an interesting fight to watch and it's been the most anticipated fight of the year because Canelo is sure the favorite here but the people's opinion are divided too because we cannot neglect that Dmitry Bivol surely have that chance to upset Canelo, after all this is his division so he is somehow adept in this weight while Canelo may have fought once in this division previously but he is still just a guest.

Every fight of Canelo Alvarez regarding who will be his opponent in that said fight is always an anticipated fight for every boxing fans who supporting him. And there's no doubt that this upcoming fight is an interesting fight because the undefeated fighter Canelo Alvarez will going to defend his title and belt against Bivol and this time he will going to show us if he can still be the undefeated fighter or we will going to see Bivol winning the game. I am pretty sure Canelo is the stronger fighter in this upcoming fight.
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I disagree with your disagreement hehehe. However, I only agree on your speculation if you are making a bet on Bivol. Everyone has already witnessed that Canelo is something similar to Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio. They are the kings of the sport of boxing. But there is a chance for Bivol and he might be underestimated for this. I speculate Bivol's left hook, right uppercut might knockdown Canelo.

Canelo should do his best as lots of people are expecting to win money betting for him hehe. Looks like everyone is considering Bivol as an easy opponent for Canelo. I only see a few posters here praising the skills of Bivol. Him being a champion is now disregarded because Canelo is treated similarly to Floyd Mayweather Jr or Manny Pacquiao.

I also see Canelo has the advantage but we can't speculate early who will be the winner of this fight.

The odds for Canelo seem not attractive too. I wonder how those bettors that eyeing for Canelo to win will make a bet.
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I disagree with your disagreement hehehe. However, I only agree on your speculation if you are making a bet on Bivol. Everyone has already witnessed that Canelo is something similar to Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio. They are the kings of the sport of boxing. But there is a chance for Bivol and he might be underestimated for this. I speculate Bivol's left hook, right uppercut might knockdown Canelo.

Canelo should do his best as lots of people are expecting to win money betting for him hehe. Looks like everyone is considering Bivol as an easy opponent for Canelo. I only see a few posters here praising the skills of Bivol. Him being a champion is now disregarded because Canelo is treated similarly to Floyd Mayweather Jr or Manny Pacquiao.

I also see Canelo has the advantage but we can't speculate early who will be the winner of this fight.

The odds for Canelo seem not attractive too. I wonder how those bettors that eyeing for Canelo to win will make a bet.

Maybe they are looking for more betting options and not for the ML unless they are going to bet huge money on Canelo.

Many have tried to fight Canelo and said that they are going to win, much bigger guy than Canelo, but they all have because they can't solved the puzzle in Canelo. He has vastly improved since his lost to Floyd.

The only way to beat him if that if Bivol got lucky and time Canelo coming and have a shot that Canelo is not expecting. But then again, Canelo has a great chin as well, so hard to imagine how Bivol can win this fight.
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March 26, 2022, 05:30:11 PM
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This fight will surely be an interesting fight to watch and it's been the most anticipated fight of the year because Canelo is sure the favorite here but the people's opinion are divided too because we cannot neglect that Dmitry Bivol surely have that chance to upset Canelo, after all this is his division so he is somehow adept in this weight while Canelo may have fought once in this division previously but he is still just a guest.

Every fight of Canelo Alvarez regarding who will be his opponent in that said fight is always an anticipated fight for every boxing fans who supporting him. And there's no doubt that this upcoming fight is an interesting fight because the undefeated fighter Canelo Alvarez will going to defend his title and belt against Bivol and this time he will going to show us if he can still be the undefeated fighter or we will going to see Bivol winning the game. I am pretty sure Canelo is the stronger fighter in this upcoming fight.

Absolutely, Canelo is the pound-for-pound king and an undisputed champion so it's somehow expected that his every matches will be the most anticipated one and the upcoming trilogy is much more anticipated and I bet the fans of GGG and Canelo is dying to know what would be the result of their separate fights.

And there's no doubt that this upcoming fight is an interesting fight because the undefeated fighter Canelo Alvarez will going to defend his title and belt against Bivol...
Sorry mate, I have to disagree with you here because Saul Canelo Alvarez is not an undefeated boxer. His record is 57-1-2 and his only lost came from the one and only Floyd Mayweather Jr. last September 2013.

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