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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7  (Read 3064 times)
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April 19, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
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In any case, @bisdak @Boafeng and other real boxing fans in this thread, if someone asked you if Bivol is Canelo's hardest challenge after his fight vs. GGG, would your answer be a yes or a no?

That will be subjective. We don't even see yet how Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will clash with each other. In Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin chapter, we already witnessed their 1st and 2nd fight that's why we can make a brief conclusion about it or we can speculate who's better.

By record and stats, Bivol is impressive. The same goes for Canelo Alvarez.

But on who has the upper hand and is dominant, we need to wait on May 7.

i do agree that the performance between canelo and bivol is yet to be seen. we can't conclude this early as we are only basing on their past performances. but once inside the ring, they may have different approach on each other. less than a month anyway, and we will see how they will fight inside the ring. until then, we can't make solid conclusion about the two.

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April 19, 2022, 11:19:15 PM
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Both! It's still not yet decided because their 1st fight is a draw while the 2nd fight really belongs to him, I might see that as his reason because if he had been the one who have lost during their 2nd encounter for sure he would ask for a rematch/trilogy because he cannot just accept that fact. But the opposite happened and he didn't gave GGG the trilogy he asked. Canelo cannot deny the fact that GGG is the toughest and strongest opponent that's why he's just hiding behind those reasons that there's nothing more to prove.

Just a question as I really don't know what other details happened before, did GGG complain about his loss against Canelo Alvarez on their 2nd meetup?

Because if no, it means the boxing community is not satisfied with Canelo winning that match, and they requested a mass call for a trilogy which Canelo didn't buy since he was sure himself that he won those 2 previous fights with GGG.

If only this supposed trilogy happened last 2019, Canelo would surely struggle unlike now that almost all of the advantages are on his side.

If the trilogy happened that year, we can expect that GGG is still on his beast even though he's much older than Canelo.

But I'm sure GGG still has it when he faced Canelo. The reason is, he really has the goal to beat Canelo to end their story. The adrenaline is there and will unleash on the day of the fight.
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April 20, 2022, 01:21:31 PM
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^ I think it's all about the money, and Canelo might think that he will beat GGG because he is old already. I'm not saying that he waited for GGG to get old, but with no potential fighters except LHW, but it won't give him the money that he could get from fighting an old GGG in a trilogy? Why not? And after this fight and he declare as a winner then he can tell everyone that he is the best fighter in the world right now and stop the discussion about their infamous fights.

Well, if it's not about the money then what is it about? I would not believe if Canelo would say that he wants to end that discussion once and for all because if he really thinks that way then he should've fought GGG long time ago. Anyways I agree that defeating GGG again on their trilogy will make him the best fighter in the world in todays modern age and no one can doubt that.

He should listen to what the fans are asking, Canelo is one of the best now, but you are right, defeating GGG would make him the best fighter. So hopefully, after the fight of Canelo (if he wins) is over, a trilogy will already be on the line. We've seen Ugas vs Spence ( good fight), but GGG vs Canelo is a better fight for sure.

On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

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April 20, 2022, 02:32:35 PM
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Canelo is good, based on what I've seen of his highlights on YouTube and how well he beats his opponents. In terms of record, experience, and talents, Canelo has every advantage he needs to defeat Bivol. Since Bivol is undefeated, this could be a thrilling fight. Let's see who wins between these two boxers. Wink
Canelo Alvarez is indeed the favorite to win the duel, because of his extraordinary experience, talent and technique in every fight he plays, as a boxer who is currently the current super middleweight champion and is also ranked No 1 in pound-for-pound of course he deserves to be favourite, but I don't think Bivol is an easy opponent for canelo alvares in the ring, because from the moment I watched the bivol fight in the ring he is absolutely stunning in my opinion, his footwork and speed in hitting which is quite accurate sometimes makes his opponent often overwhelmed in the face of Bivol.

And also we may see Canelo Alvarez struggle towards Bivol's movement because he is surely not an easy opponent to deal with as he cannot be a champion in this division if he's not that talented enough but that same struggle will turn into an advantage once Canelo starts to catch up how Bivol moves because that's how Canelo fights, he keeps on calculating his opponents movements before he starts making his gameplan.

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April 20, 2022, 02:36:23 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.
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April 20, 2022, 03:33:05 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.

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April 20, 2022, 03:58:37 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.

Well, Canelo is enjoying his spot right now and chooses a different path than GGG trilogy. Yes, that's correct he can't afford to have a lose from GGG, and that's why he keeps on chasing Canelo to have the 3rd fight happen.
And Canelo have the option to continue the trilogy once GGG is on his way to hang his gloves.
Just like what Mayweather have done before he fought Pacquiao.
I mean there's nothing wrong with that, but If you're a true fighter you'll have to face all the challenges and not skip someone you're not done with.
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April 20, 2022, 04:16:41 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.

As I said in the past, it may seem unclear why Canelo is not giving GGG the trilogy last 2019 but it is somehow clear that his reason why he didn't chose to fight GGG for the 3rd is that he cannot risk his career over a trilogy where in-fact he have already won the 2nd as the 1st fight was resulted into a draw. He's been very vocal about it but his reasons doesn't make sense.

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All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.
I think it's the opposite, I mean Canelo have already agreed to fight Bivol and that same agreement includes GGG. So, he signed 2 fights in just one contract but money talks isn't included. It's GGG who didn't sign the deal yet and not the other way around.

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April 20, 2022, 04:52:28 PM
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Maybe combination of both? He signed the biggest contract in boxing with DAZN when he separated with GBP. But the thing is, months after, GGG also signed with DAZN so it's just a matter of time that the network will set up this fight because they know that the revenue is going to be big. And so Canelo can't avoid it, and maybe he also think about the money in the table for him, and could be the second richest boxer behind Floyd.
It is probably a combination of factors, as you state it seems all the stars are aligning for us to see GGG and Canelo above the ring, the money Canelo can possibly make, the desire for the fans to see the third fight of the trilogy, the fact Canelo wants to prove he did in fact beat GGG, and to all of this I will add that even if GGG is still in very good shape a small decline in his abilities can be observed and if to this we add that Canelo is at his best then maybe he thinks he can beat GGG and prove everyone wrong once and for all.



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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

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April 20, 2022, 09:29:31 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

it may not be the greatest, but definitely it will fetch huge figures. now, we will wait for purse split here but we need to see canelo-bivol fight. if canelo wins, then i believe the purse split may be so close. even the odds here will be so tight. but would want to see first the performance of canelo over bivol. that's when we will somehow see what he's got going up in division.

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April 21, 2022, 03:15:03 AM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

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April 21, 2022, 03:25:38 AM
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Bivol should perform his best during his fight against Canelo especially the game will take place on his territory not just to defend to his belt or his title but to give honour to their countrymen. But like what we always have speculated we knew that Canelo will outperform at this game and we will expect that this man will going to perform his best like what he always do. But let's wait and see when the game starts and our speculations will be concluded.

Isn't it obvious that once a boxer is scheduled for a big event, they should expect to perform their best?

Bivol should already know the drill and there should be no questions about what we can expect for him on the day of the fight. As a champion who has well-defended his title for years, he is always bound to do his best in any fight regardless of how strong or famous the opponent is.

Canelo Alvarez might be the biggest challenge he has to face in his boxing career and I'm sure he won't just allow being dominated mostly in their fight.

It should be and a boxer will trained hard and make an observation through watching past fight of their opponent in order to have a chance of winning I agree with you that if someone professional boxer schedule u big event or a big fight on his career he must put all his best to play against his opponent and If it will be happening a crowd well see a good and interesting fight

With all the speculation that has been generated just for Canelo's side it's unbelievable because everyone is assuming that Canelo must win for his matchup possibly with GGG, which is highly anticipated, but very few people are taking into account the power that Canelo has. Russian, Bivol is with everything, he has all the chances of making history, and as they have said before, what better wasn't a victory against a great like Canelo and then what would the critics and fans say? Would they be looking for the other fight again with the same intensity? this is what i mean.



On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

it may not be the greatest, but definitely it will fetch huge figures. now, we will wait for purse split here but we need to see canelo-bivol fight. if canelo wins, then i believe the purse split may be so close. even the odds here will be so tight. but would want to see first the performance of canelo over bivol. that's when we will somehow see what he's got going up in division.

Regarding all this, my hopes are high especially for Bivol, because I believe that this Russian can bring a lot to boxing, in addition there are many precedents, he is a Russian athlete who will fight against all odds, this is something that for most People don't want to see the mere fact that there is the conflict in Russia and Ukraine, I think that this rivalry will make this fight much more interesting.

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April 21, 2022, 03:48:53 PM
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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.

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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

Canelo have only won once in their 2 fights and that's the 2nd fight after their draw, if Canelo have indeed won twice then I seriously think there's no reason anymore to have a trilogy as Canelo have already proved his point to GGG. Also there is really no exact clear reason about Canelo's avoidance, what we just know is what he said but it doesn't really make some sense.

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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.


That is surely a wild speculation right there but you have a point, I also asked that to myself after I've read your quote.

Although I'm sure that Canelo wouldn't let an upset happen to him as it could stain and really add a toll on his career after being defeated by a man who will hangs up his gloves in maybe next few years but yes what if, right? My honest answer is that there could be a 4th fight as their score is tied and definitely another fight needs to happen to settle things between the two of them but I'm quite certain that a 4th fight is a settlement fight unless it would again result into a draw.

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April 21, 2022, 10:35:05 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.

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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.

Yes, this has been discussed over and over again and the primary concern on the part of GGG is his age. GGG is about to face the end of his career while Canelo is still very much at his peak. And if we take a careful look at both boxers' last performances, no doubt Canelo is going to win. Although it is still clear that GGG still has a powerful punch, it seems that he is now becoming stiff and therefore an easier target. And considering Canelo's accuracy and power, it is troubling if GGG will constantly absorb Canelo's punches if his footwork and head movement are gone.

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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.


That is surely a wild speculation right there but you have a point, I also asked that to myself after I've read your quote.

Although I'm sure that Canelo wouldn't let an upset happen to him as it could stain and really add a toll on his career after being defeated by a man who will hangs up his gloves in maybe next few years but yes what if, right? My honest answer is that there could be a 4th fight as their score is tied and definitely another fight needs to happen to settle things between the two of them but I'm quite certain that a 4th fight is a settlement fight unless it would again result into a draw.

Yes that is possible as well, we have seen Pacquiao and Marquez fought many times because their fight is really close.

And so if this fight goes that way again, I mean with no clear winner, maybe we can see a 4th fight or until there is clear winner for us. The only barrier is the age of GGG because we will be over 40 years old if there will be 4th fight.

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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.

Maybe that was the factor why GGG started slow and tries to catch up his own movement in the ring for him to be more confident towards Murata because he hasn't fought anyone for almost 2 years or 16 months to be exact, but that's just a maybe because he ain't inactive in all those months because he is still preparing and training for a while against Murata. Although, I admit I'm still amazed how GGG works his magic in the ring but if it's against Canelo who is yes currently at the peak of his prime then I don't know about that anymore if GGG could really handle Canelo.

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