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April 24, 2022, 04:44:47 PM
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Back to the fight, I hope Bivol won't experience an unfair traits from the live audience but he still needs to prepare himself for that situation and get himself focus on the fight.

In fairness to those people who will watch the fight live, I doubt there will be a hostile approach toward Bivol.

I don't see any related thing about that happening on the day of the fight as most people understand that these Russian athletes shouldn't be involved in any hatred act. Dmitry Bivol has already expressed his concern about the on-going conflict even before.

His statement should be enough for people to understand what side he is on - and it's about peace.
Even if that is the case Bivol should have trained himself with that in mind, after all Canelo is loved by the public and almost everyone there will be supporting Canelo and not him, so some hostility should be expected from the get go, the issue is the level of that hostility, as long as the public is respectful and they are just booing him then that is fine since it is within the confines of what it is acceptable for them to do.



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April 24, 2022, 04:58:40 PM
 #482

Back to the fight, I hope Bivol won't experience an unfair traits from the live audience but he still needs to prepare himself for that situation and get himself focus on the fight.

In fairness to those people who will watch the fight live, I doubt there will be a hostile approach toward Bivol.

I don't see any related thing about that happening on the day of the fight as most people understand that these Russian athletes shouldn't be involved in any hatred act. Dmitry Bivol has already expressed his concern about the on-going conflict even before.

His statement should be enough for people to understand what side he is on - and it's about peace.
Even if that is the case Bivol should have trained himself with that in mind, after all Canelo is loved by the public and almost everyone there will be supporting Canelo and not him, so some hostility should be expected from the get go, the issue is the level of that hostility, as long as the public is respectful and they are just booing him then that is fine since it is within the confines of what it is acceptable for them to do.

He will be traveling to a hostile environment and this should not be the first time that Bivol experience this. For sure when he has started his boxing career, many doubt his talent.

And hopefully he can translate this hostility to motivation and show us that he can fight with the best of Canelo, setting aside the current war that is going on.

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April 24, 2022, 05:00:18 PM
 #483

Back to the fight, I hope Bivol won't experience an unfair traits from the live audience but he still needs to prepare himself for that situation and get himself focus on the fight.

In fairness to those people who will watch the fight live, I doubt there will be a hostile approach toward Bivol.

I don't see any related thing about that happening on the day of the fight as most people understand that these Russian athletes shouldn't be involved in any hatred act. Dmitry Bivol has already expressed his concern about the on-going conflict even before.

His statement should be enough for people to understand what side he is on - and it's about peace.
Even if that is the case Bivol should have trained himself with that in mind, after all Canelo is loved by the public and almost everyone there will be supporting Canelo and not him, so some hostility should be expected from the get go, the issue is the level of that hostility, as long as the public is respectful and they are just booing him then that is fine since it is within the confines of what it is acceptable for them to do.

I think he already put that in his mind that he should not be distracted by the people especially now that there's a conflict in their country against the whole world, there's no need for him to worry that much because booing is just a part of it because he is fighting in a hostile country where Canelo is certainly the favorite. But yes, I surely do hope that the level of hostility is not that bad and only just some verbal approach.

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April 24, 2022, 06:33:35 PM
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I think he already put that in his mind that he should not be distracted by the people especially now that there's a conflict in their country against the whole world, there's no need for him to worry that much because booing is just a part of it because he is fighting in a hostile country where Canelo is certainly the favorite. But yes, I surely do hope that the level of hostility is not that bad and only just some verbal approach.
right, he must be aware that the ridicule did come from outside and what he is doing now is completely different and has nothing to do with the war that is currently happening because of course he also doesn't want this because it will definitely be a bit of a hindrance for him.

Canelo is still the seed but when he loses when there is ridicule and bluff for him about his country's problems there is definitely a reason for him to dodge Grin

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April 24, 2022, 06:58:43 PM
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I think he already put that in his mind that he should not be distracted by the people especially now that there's a conflict in their country against the whole world, there's no need for him to worry that much because booing is just a part of it because he is fighting in a hostile country where Canelo is certainly the favorite. But yes, I surely do hope that the level of hostility is not that bad and only just some verbal approach.
right, he must be aware that the ridicule did come from outside and what he is doing now is completely different and has nothing to do with the war that is currently happening because of course he also doesn't want this because it will definitely be a bit of a hindrance for him.

Canelo is still the seed but when he loses when there is ridicule and bluff for him about his country's problems there is definitely a reason for him to dodge Grin

That, I believe, would be the motivation of Bivol on this fight.
But we will see if Canelo is indeed prepared for this weight division.
GGG is waiting for him already. So don't know what will happen if in case, Canelo will lose to Bivol on this match.
But Canelo is still the favorite of sportsbooks. Can Canelo live up to the expectations of his fans? Let us watch...
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April 25, 2022, 09:34:27 AM
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I think he already put that in his mind that he should not be distracted by the people especially now that there's a conflict in their country against the whole world, there's no need for him to worry that much because booing is just a part of it because he is fighting in a hostile country where Canelo is certainly the favorite. But yes, I surely do hope that the level of hostility is not that bad and only just some verbal approach.
right, he must be aware that the ridicule did come from outside and what he is doing now is completely different and has nothing to do with the war that is currently happening because of course he also doesn't want this because it will definitely be a bit of a hindrance for him.

Canelo is still the seed but when he loses when there is ridicule and bluff for him about his country's problems there is definitely a reason for him to dodge Grin

That, I believe, would be the motivation of Bivol on this fight.
But we will see if Canelo is indeed prepared for this weight division.
GGG is waiting for him already. So don't know what will happen if in case, Canelo will lose to Bivol on this match.
But Canelo is still the favorite of sportsbooks. Can Canelo live up to the expectations of his fans? Let us watch...

He don't have any choice either, he need to make that as his motivation rather than a hindrance and he should be well used to it without thinking any hostile activities outside the ring because chances are that people will only do some verbal actions at him and not the other way around.

Canelo on the other hand have already stepped foot on this specific division but Bivol holds more experience on this division than him because he is the defending champion. We may see Canelo adjust and be more comfortable just like what he always do whereas the latter is already comfortable as this is division. It will be a tough fight between these two, cannot wait to see it.

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April 25, 2022, 09:34:59 AM
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I think he already put that in his mind that he should not be distracted by the people especially now that there's a conflict in their country against the whole world, there's no need for him to worry that much because booing is just a part of it because he is fighting in a hostile country where Canelo is certainly the favorite. But yes, I surely do hope that the level of hostility is not that bad and only just some verbal approach.
right, he must be aware that the ridicule did come from outside and what he is doing now is completely different and has nothing to do with the war that is currently happening because of course he also doesn't want this because it will definitely be a bit of a hindrance for him.

Canelo is still the seed but when he loses when there is ridicule and bluff for him about his country's problems there is definitely a reason for him to dodge Grin

That, I believe, would be the motivation of Bivol on this fight.
But we will see if Canelo is indeed prepared for this weight division.
GGG is waiting for him already. So don't know what will happen if in case, Canelo will lose to Bivol on this match.
But Canelo is still the favorite of sportsbooks. Can Canelo live up to the expectations of his fans? Let us watch...

A very good question that only time can answer, everything will be concluded after the announcer dictate the name of the winner, though you are right, Canelo still the favorite according to bookies and still fans expecting him to perform the way he always deal with each fights that he have from this sport.

Let's wait and see if he will continue to dominate even in this new division, though he's no longer new to this but deciding to
jump up again. That is another thing for this star.

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April 25, 2022, 05:10:48 PM
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I think he already put that in his mind that he should not be distracted by the people especially now that there's a conflict in their country against the whole world, there's no need for him to worry that much because booing is just a part of it because he is fighting in a hostile country where Canelo is certainly the favorite. But yes, I surely do hope that the level of hostility is not that bad and only just some verbal approach.
right, he must be aware that the ridicule did come from outside and what he is doing now is completely different and has nothing to do with the war that is currently happening because of course he also doesn't want this because it will definitely be a bit of a hindrance for him.

Canelo is still the seed but when he loses when there is ridicule and bluff for him about his country's problems there is definitely a reason for him to dodge Grin

That, I believe, would be the motivation of Bivol on this fight.
But we will see if Canelo is indeed prepared for this weight division.
GGG is waiting for him already. So don't know what will happen if in case, Canelo will lose to Bivol on this match.
But Canelo is still the favorite of sportsbooks. Can Canelo live up to the expectations of his fans? Let us watch...

A very good question that only time can answer, everything will be concluded after the announcer dictate the name of the winner, though you are right, Canelo still the favorite according to bookies and still fans expecting him to perform the way he always deal with each fights that he have from this sport.

Let's wait and see if he will continue to dominate even in this new division, though he's no longer new to this but deciding to
jump up again. That is another thing for this star.
I agree! Canelo is expected to be the favorite ofcourse as he is always been the favorite in almost all of his fight but this time the underdog, Dmitry Bivol is not an easy opponent to deal with and he is much more confident as this is his own division unlike Canelo who's just his 2nd time visiting this division. Both will be tested in this fight though I won't deny that Canelo still have the most chances to win. 

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April 25, 2022, 05:44:09 PM
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I agree! Canelo is expected to be the favorite ofcourse as he is always been the favorite in almost all of his fight but this time the underdog, Dmitry Bivol is not an easy opponent to deal with and he is much more confident as this is his own division unlike Canelo who's just his 2nd time visiting this division. Both will be tested in this fight though I won't deny that Canelo still have the most chances to win. 

Bivol needs to show everything Canelo is challenging him in his division, he's more familiar and the chance for him is still there. Though like what both see Canelo still have that good advantage but we never know what Bivol can do when he meet Canelo inside the ring, there's a chance that he also studies how Canelo fought and find the good strategy to compete with him with great pride.

We will only declare or conclude who won the fight when the decision has already been announced!

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April 25, 2022, 08:15:10 PM
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I agree! Canelo is expected to be the favorite ofcourse as he is always been the favorite in almost all of his fight but this time the underdog, Dmitry Bivol is not an easy opponent to deal with and he is much more confident as this is his own division unlike Canelo who's just his 2nd time visiting this division. Both will be tested in this fight though I won't deny that Canelo still have the most chances to win. 

Bivol's problem is that he has a relatively weak knockout punch, so it can be assumed that if Canelo doesn't knock him out, the fight will last the full 12 rounds. It will be quite difficult for Bivol to win on points even if the scoring is absolutely fair, but we know that the challenger must be clearly stronger than the champion in order to be awarded the victory.
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I agree! Canelo is expected to be the favorite ofcourse as he is always been the favorite in almost all of his fight but this time the underdog, Dmitry Bivol is not an easy opponent to deal with and he is much more confident as this is his own division unlike Canelo who's just his 2nd time visiting this division. Both will be tested in this fight though I won't deny that Canelo still have the most chances to win. 

Bivol's problem is that he has a relatively weak knockout punch, so it can be assumed that if Canelo doesn't knock him out, the fight will last the full 12 rounds. It will be quite difficult for Bivol to win on points even if the scoring is absolutely fair, but we know that the challenger must be clearly stronger than the champion in order to be awarded the victory.
Should it be understood from your words that  Canelo's chances of winning will be higher? Although Canelo has more fights and victories (there is also 1 defeat), but Bivol's statistics look better (but there are 3 times fewer fights). Also, Bivol has an advantage in height, and hence the length of his arms. To be honest, I can't even imagine a possible winner and I see the only way to find out is to wait for the scheduled fight, which will determine the strongest.

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April 25, 2022, 09:26:26 PM
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.
There should be a trilogy between them so that people will stop the discussion based from the controversial fight they had before as they can prove now as who really is the champion. Though Canelo has already proved his skills and expertise in his boxing career, but it will always be different if people can witness again how he will fight GGG as everything will be fair and no controversies again. I'm rooting when will it be possibly happen.

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Back to the fight, I hope Bivol won't experience an unfair traits from the live audience but he still needs to prepare himself for that situation and get himself focus on the fight.

In fairness to those people who will watch the fight live, I doubt there will be a hostile approach toward Bivol.

I don't see any related thing about that happening on the day of the fight as most people understand that these Russian athletes shouldn't be involved in any hatred act. Dmitry Bivol has already expressed his concern about the on-going conflict even before.

His statement should be enough for people to understand what side he is on - and it's about peace.
Even if that is the case Bivol should have trained himself with that in mind, after all Canelo is loved by the public and almost everyone there will be supporting Canelo and not him, so some hostility should be expected from the get go, the issue is the level of that hostility, as long as the public is respectful and they are just booing him then that is fine since it is within the confines of what it is acceptable for them to do.

Being booed is already usual for an experienced athlete. Bivol can handle that easily and can't even treat it as a distraction. But to the extent that there's an action from the fans that are too much to handle, that's disrespectful. But like I said, people are not dumb to shift or voiced their disagreement with the ongoing conflict to some athletes as they know not all Russians like the idea of the war.

The bottom line, we should not involve the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine in this fight.

We will witnessed this fight as it should be and nothing else will spoiled it.

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April 26, 2022, 02:58:39 AM
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We've talk about how great Canelo is, and we are saying that he is still peaking and reaching his prime. And you guys are correct because he himself said that:

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“It’s boxing, but nobody can beat me right now,” Alvarez said on the Boxing with Chris Mannix podcast. “I feel in my prime.

"And no disrespect to other fighters. There’s some great fighters. But I feel in my prime. I feel strong. I feel in my best.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-nobody-beat-me-right-now-im-my-prime--165766

And with this kind of confidence, yeah, I don't think that anybody can beat Canelo from 160-175 lbs at this point. He is too good for other boxers even for GGG, although we can give credit to GGG for giving Canelo his toughest fight in his career.

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Can we please switch from discussing how cool Canelo is and why there must be a third fight against GGG, to who Dmitry Bivol is ? Everyone here talk like Canelo has already won. Bivol is not a boy for beating. Bivol has successfully defended his WBA lightheavy title 3 times. That is something to take into consideration.

One thing I still dont understand, why Canelo choose Bivol instead of Beterbiev? Beterbiev is one step easier than Smith, who Canelo already beat. Bivol is two steps lower than Smith. Because Bivol is easier opponent ?

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April 26, 2022, 09:46:51 AM
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Can we please switch from discussing how cool Canelo is and why there must be a third fight against GGG, to who Dmitry Bivol is ? Everyone here talk like Canelo has already won. Bivol is not a boy for beating. Bivol has successfully defended his WBA lightheavy title 3 times. That is something to take into consideration.
can't blame us, hahaha. Sorry about that mate, it's just that we really like to see a trilogy of GGG vs Canelo and that will not happen if Canelo will lose in this fight, so we just expect and assume that he will win so the anticipated Trilogy will be scheduled soon.

One thing I still dont understand, why Canelo choose Bivol instead of Beterbiev? Beterbiev is one step easier than Smith, who Canelo already beat. Bivol is two steps lower than Smith. Because Bivol is easier opponent ?
Canelo belive Bivol is a good match up, and he is a champion, so I understand him.

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can't blame us, hahaha. Sorry about that mate, it's just that we really like to see a trilogy of GGG vs Canelo

I also wish to see that, but I think this fight will never going to happen. It must have happened after their second fight, as it was a very controversial fight. That time their skill level of boxing was equal. Now I see that Canelo has advantages over GGG and it wont be fair to have a third fight right now.

One thing I still dont understand, why Canelo choose Bivol instead of Beterbiev? Beterbiev is one step easier than Smith, who Canelo already beat. Bivol is two steps lower than Smith. Because Bivol is easier opponent ?
Canelo belive Bivol is a good match up, and he is a champion, so I understand him.

Or, Beterbiev is more dangerous opponent (17 wins, all by KO). That is why Canelo has chosen either easy option/money, or uses Bivol as a preparation for Beterbiev. Or he has several fight left in his contract, he will face Bivol, then someone who will be easy to win, end career and transform into promotor Cheesy

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April 26, 2022, 02:28:54 PM
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We've talk about how great Canelo is, and we are saying that he is still peaking and reaching his prime. And you guys are correct because he himself said that:

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“It’s boxing, but nobody can beat me right now,” Alvarez said on the Boxing with Chris Mannix podcast. “I feel in my prime.

"And no disrespect to other fighters. There’s some great fighters. But I feel in my prime. I feel strong. I feel in my best.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-nobody-beat-me-right-now-im-my-prime--165766

And with this kind of confidence, yeah, I don't think that anybody can beat Canelo from 160-175 lbs at this point. He is too good for other boxers even for GGG, although we can give credit to GGG for giving Canelo his toughest fight in his career.

I cannot even disagree on every word he said because that was all true and actually his confidence speaks for himself not because he is boasting but because his record is outstanding. The only thing that keeps me following Canelo is his humbleness and keeping himself knowledgeable on every fights he got even if he is in the ring, he is still learning without changing his facial reaction. No doubt that he is the 6th boxer to be the undisputed champion, he deserved it!

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April 26, 2022, 02:36:42 PM
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can't blame us, hahaha. Sorry about that mate, it's just that we really like to see a trilogy of GGG vs Canelo
I also wish to see that, but I think this fight will never going to happen. It must have happened after their second fight, as it was a very controversial fight. That time their skill level of boxing was equal. Now I see that Canelo has advantages over GGG and it wont be fair to have a third fight right now.
I really agree on this. Trilogy should've happened right after their two controversial fights. Now I hate seeing this old version of GGG moving up in weight for the first time in his career against a prime Canelo. This time I will bet on Canelo stopping GGG. That's why I am hoping for a Bivol upset against Canelo.   

One thing I still dont understand, why Canelo choose Bivol instead of Beterbiev? Beterbiev is one step easier than Smith, who Canelo already beat. Bivol is two steps lower than Smith. Because Bivol is easier opponent ?
Canelo belive Bivol is a good match up, and he is a champion, so I understand him.
Or, Beterbiev is more dangerous opponent (17 wins, all by KO). That is why Canelo has chosen either easy option/money, or uses Bivol as a preparation for Beterbiev. Or he has several fight left in his contract, he will face Bivol, then someone who will be easy to win, end career and transform into promotor Cheesy
Since Canelo left Oscar dela Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, he is a free agent and until now wanted it this way. This will allow Canelo to fight on any tv networks and promoters. And since he is a superstar and the biggest draw in boxing, this becomes possible. There were only two best offers for Canelo. Both around a hundred million 2 fight deals.

1. DAZN (Matchroom): Move up to light-heavyweight against WBA champion Bivol. And assuming Canelo wins, he will move back down again to super-middleweight for a GGG trilogy.

2. PBC (Showtime and Fox): First fight will be against the undefeated WBC middleweight champion Jermall Charlo. And if Canelo wins, his next fight will be against another undefeated and ex champion David Benavidez.

If I were to rank these four fighters. I can say Bivol is the most difficult and then the young Benavidez, followed by Charlo. GGG is like the bonus easy money here. Maybe Top Rank (ESPN) who handles light-heavyweight lineal, IBF and WBC champion Artur Beterbiev cannot compete with DAZN and PBC offers. But I still believe that Canelo will really want to unify with Beterbiev next year unless Top Rank and ESPN cannot afford his purse demand. The undefeated Beterbiev will be turning 38 next year though so I think Bivol is really the deadliest at light-heayweight.


 

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April 26, 2022, 05:09:25 PM
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I agree! Canelo is expected to be the favorite ofcourse as he is always been the favorite in almost all of his fight but this time the underdog, Dmitry Bivol is not an easy opponent to deal with and he is much more confident as this is his own division unlike Canelo who's just his 2nd time visiting this division. Both will be tested in this fight though I won't deny that Canelo still have the most chances to win. 

Bivol needs to show everything Canelo is challenging him in his division, he's more familiar and the chance for him is still there. Though like what both see Canelo still have that good advantage but we never know what Bivol can do when he meet Canelo inside the ring, there's a chance that he also studies how Canelo fought and find the good strategy to compete with him with great pride.

We will only declare or conclude who won the fight when the decision has already been announced!

What I can say is that Bivol is not an easy opponent that Canelo can deal with and aside from the fact the he is the champion in this division and more familiar, he can give an entertaining fight that Canelo wanted. the latter chose him for a reason because he is the most challenging boxer in the league now that within his weight reach. Nevertheless, Canelo can always find that weakness on Bivol somewhere in the middle rounds after he is done watching and observing him and that's where Bivol should watch out.

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