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April 29, 2022, 07:06:10 PM
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There are people who will find it arrogant, but in the eyes of his fans and followers, he really does have that strength as he's on his prime now.

Actually, the statement is not being arrogant and I'm sure people won't treat it that way because Canelo Alvarez is just stating the fact.

Canelo's statement is backed up by valid and strong proof that even those who don't like him will accept it.

Different from other arrogant boxers whose mouth is just full of talks and can't prove it to the ring like for example, Caleb Plant who trash talk Canelo, Keith Thurman who toyed with Manny Pacquiao, and many others.

That is very normal in almost every aspect of life to see someone that finds you arrogant or simply hates you even if you did nothing wrong, that's just another way of being jealous to a man's success in his/her own life. And for Canelo, he is so famous in the industry that it's almost impossible to say that there's no single human being that literally born to hate him even if his record speaks for himself or back any of his statement. I'm quite sure that Canelo is fully aware of that and he is used to it already too.

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April 29, 2022, 07:40:45 PM
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That would certainly open more doors on his career if he will be able to defeat the current pound for pound king and an undisputed fighter, Saul Canelo Alvarez. Towards that way is not an easy thing to accomplish but its reward to reap is definitely hard to deny as his name will be hyped continuously over the years to come.

Though Canelo will ask for a rematch to seek some revenge for that loss.
A fight once lost is lost for ever - one should give their best in the most important fights of their lives.
This is the lesson which we need to learn in the life as well. Giving the best and never giving up. But apart from hardwork there is another important factor which is called LUCK and it is the most important of all.

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April 29, 2022, 10:04:02 PM
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Yes, bookmakers allow you to bet on Canello with odds of 1.3, while on Bivol as much as 4.7. This suggests that Canelo is a clear favorite and some advantage in physical data does not mean anything. As you rightly noted, the challenger has three times fewer fights, and the champion has already beaten everyone he can, and for him it will be a fight with another average fighter.

Canelo's 1.3 odds are still high for a heavy favorite. Usually, odds on that level of boxer play on a range at 1.00-1.1.

This is the first time I saw a Champion with no defeats was given 4.7 odds. That's how far the distance bookies see on these 2 champions, especially on Canelo Alvarez. I wonder what will happen if Bivol will able to upset Canelo.

It will shock the boxing community for sure.

If that will happen, his name will be hyped up. I remember how Ugas get that attention after beating Pacquiao. It will be more for Bivol since Alvarez established his name as one of the legend of pound for pound and still active and still at his prime, upsetting the heavy favorite would impact on his career.

For that, he will enjoy more money fights, offers that will continue to suck money out from the fans and gamblers.

Too early to discuss, though, let's see if how both fighters will show competitiveness once they are both inside the ring.

Yes maybe that's right cause Canelo Alvarez is one of the most legendary boxers of all time and if someone will defeat him for sure it's a big achievement and pride of the people who supported him, and that's what civil aimed for he wants to defend himself against Canelo and if have a chance take the opportunity to win the match but not just esdy cause canelo aim for victory to rematch GGG in his next fight.
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April 29, 2022, 11:09:21 PM
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Yes, bookmakers allow you to bet on Canello with odds of 1.3, while on Bivol as much as 4.7. This suggests that Canelo is a clear favorite and some advantage in physical data does not mean anything. As you rightly noted, the challenger has three times fewer fights, and the champion has already beaten everyone he can, and for him it will be a fight with another average fighter.

Canelo's 1.3 odds are still high for a heavy favorite. Usually, odds on that level of boxer play on a range at 1.00-1.1.

This is the first time I saw a Champion with no defeats was given 4.7 odds. That's how far the distance bookies see on these 2 champions, especially on Canelo Alvarez. I wonder what will happen if Bivol will able to upset Canelo.

It will shock the boxing community for sure.

If that will happen, his name will be hyped up. I remember how Ugas get that attention after beating Pacquiao. It will be more for Bivol since Alvarez established his name as one of the legend of pound for pound and still active and still at his prime, upsetting the heavy favorite would impact on his career.

For that, he will enjoy more money fights, offers that will continue to suck money out from the fans and gamblers.

Too early to discuss, though, let's see if how both fighters will show competitiveness once they are both inside the ring.

Yes maybe that's right cause Canelo Alvarez is one of the most legendary boxers of all time and if someone will defeat him for sure it's a big achievement and pride of the people who supported him, and that's what civil aimed for he wants to defend himself against Canelo and if have a chance take the opportunity to win the match but not just esdy cause canelo aim for victory to rematch GGG in his next fight.

So far after the Mayweather fight no one comes close to beating him, there are fighters who try to duplicate what Mayweather did to him but we have an upgraded version of Canelo that is so hard to hit and hit hard and can last the whole 12 rounds and still look fresh and I don't think Bivol will be the one to beat him, Bivol is not even close to boxers Canelo beat in the past, he is not on Mayweather caliber, we can say who's next after Bivol even before their fight started.

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April 29, 2022, 11:41:03 PM
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So far after the Mayweather fight no one comes close to beating him, there are fighters who try to duplicate what Mayweather did to him but we have an upgraded version of Canelo that is so hard to hit and hit hard and can last the whole 12 rounds and still look fresh and I don't think Bivol will be the one to beat him, Bivol is not even close to boxers Canelo beat in the past, he is not on Mayweather caliber, we can say who's next after Bivol even before their fight started.

The next for Canelo is GGG. Just to finish their unfinished business.
Canelo is the favorite in this match with Bivol and it seems bookies are not changing their odds on this match.
Bivol is clearly the underdog, but Canelo should not take this fight lightly.
Few days and we will see if Canelo can give his best even going up in this division.
Now, I am curious who will be the favorite when Canelo vs GGG happens?
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April 29, 2022, 11:56:45 PM
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So far after the Mayweather fight no one comes close to beating him,

GGG is the only boxer who put Canelo on his limits after the latter's fight with Floyd Mayweather. Even though GGG is much ahead of their age and Canelo is in his prime, their fight is a close one and both of them have equal strength. That's why it needs a trilogy to end its journey.

Who knows Bivol might also put Canelo on his limits even the majority thinks that he is a heavy underdog.

What I will just refer to about Bivol is, that he won't just allow himself to be dominated by Canelo. He is also a champion and has no defeats up to date.
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April 30, 2022, 01:50:49 AM
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Now, I am curious who will be the favorite when Canelo vs GGG happens?
Definitely Canelo 100% because their fights ended in draw and Canelo won, GGG is expected will lose because of the record. Not to mention Canelo also moving to the next weight and moreover if he won against Bivol, many people will think Canelo is more improved.

What I will just refer to about Bivol is, that he won't just allow himself to be dominated by Canelo. He is also a champion and has no defeats up to date.
Bivol isn't a defensive boxer, if we will see Bivol get dominated by Canelo... I'm pretty sure Canelo will win the fight.
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April 30, 2022, 05:11:56 AM
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So far after the Mayweather fight no one comes close to beating him,

GGG is the only boxer who put Canelo on his limits after the latter's fight with Floyd Mayweather. Even though GGG is much ahead of their age and Canelo is in his prime, their fight is a close one and both of them have equal strength. That's why it needs a trilogy to end its journey.

Who knows Bivol might also put Canelo on his limits even the majority thinks that he is a heavy underdog.

What I will just refer to about Bivol is, that he won't just allow himself to be dominated by Canelo. He is also a champion and has no defeats up to date.

If only GGG was in the same age of Canelo now or yet vice versa then these two great boxers would be the greatest rival of all time, I think. Their instincts is too good and the way their move totally match with each other. It's unfortunate to know that GGG's time is already up and we don't know maybe this is his last year in the ring after the trilogy.

And for Bivol, you're correct about that because even if he is the underdog in this fight, he is not to be underestimated as he too have proved himself that he is not an easy opponent to face and maybe he can even surprise us seeing Canelo reached his limits against Bivol.

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April 30, 2022, 05:32:23 AM
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So far after the Mayweather fight no one comes close to beating him,

GGG is the only boxer who put Canelo on his limits after the latter's fight with Floyd Mayweather. Even though GGG is much ahead of their age and Canelo is in his prime, their fight is a close one and both of them have equal strength. That's why it needs a trilogy to end its journey.

Who knows Bivol might also put Canelo on his limits even the majority thinks that he is a heavy underdog.

What I will just refer to about Bivol is, that he won't just allow himself to be dominated by Canelo. He is also a champion and has no defeats up to date.

If only GGG was in the same age of Canelo now or yet vice versa then these two great boxers would be the greatest rival of all time, I think. Their instincts is too good and the way their move totally match with each other. It's unfortunate to know that GGG's time is already up and we don't know maybe this is his last year in the ring after the trilogy.

Yeah, it's unfortunate, but at least they have fought together. And if ever he lost his fight against Canelo, maybe chances are he will retire for good.

And for Bivol, you're correct about that because even if he is the underdog in this fight, he is not to be underestimated as he too have proved himself that he is not an easy opponent to face and maybe he can even surprise us seeing Canelo reached his limits against Bivol.

I haven't seen Canelo underestimate his opponents though that's why he is very successful. His work ethics and attitude have been mold to really train with 100% and give his everything in every fight.

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April 30, 2022, 07:15:17 AM
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I haven't seen Canelo underestimate his opponents though that's why he is very successful. His work ethics and attitude have been mold to really train with 100% and give his everything in every fight.
I have seen an exclusive interview, he seems to be arguing with demetrius andrade and Cenelo said some harsh words but he doesn't seem like the grumpy type, he is a very cold person and he will vent his anger with hard punches during boxing matches. So I think Canelo is very wise in discussions but as a normal person, patience also has its limits.

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April 30, 2022, 09:21:57 AM
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I haven't seen Canelo underestimate his opponents though that's why he is very successful. His work ethics and attitude have been mold to really train with 100% and give his everything in every fight.
I have seen an exclusive interview, he seems to be arguing with demetrius andrade and Cenelo said some harsh words but he doesn't seem like the grumpy type, he is a very cold person and he will vent his anger with hard punches during boxing matches. So I think Canelo is very wise in discussions but as a normal person, patience also has its limits.

It's because Andrade has been calling out Canelo for the longest time. The problem with Andrade is that he has no bargaining power and so Canelo will obviously get mad at him because for him Andrade is just looking for a payday before he retires. So yes, he is calm but calculated boxer. And he always just wanted to fight the best just like Bivol in this weight class.

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April 30, 2022, 09:35:54 AM
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I haven't seen Canelo underestimate his opponents though that's why he is very successful. His work ethics and attitude have been mold to really train with 100% and give his everything in every fight.
I have seen an exclusive interview, he seems to be arguing with demetrius andrade and Cenelo said some harsh words but he doesn't seem like the grumpy type, he is a very cold person and he will vent his anger with hard punches during boxing matches. So I think Canelo is very wise in discussions but as a normal person, patience also has its limits.

It's because Andrade has been calling out Canelo for the longest time. The problem with Andrade is that he has no bargaining power and so Canelo will obviously get mad at him because for him Andrade is just looking for a payday before he retires. So yes, he is calm but calculated boxer. And he always just wanted to fight the best just like Bivol in this weight class.

There's no doubt about that because even if Canelo would fight a certain boxer but the promoter sees it not a profitable fight, then that wouldn't happen. Boxing is business, we are always talking about profit over the personal interest of a fighter, and Canelo's job is just to fight, while the promoter's job is to ensure that the fight will generate the expected money.
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April 30, 2022, 02:50:43 PM
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Bivol isn't a defensive boxer, if we will see Bivol get dominated by Canelo... I'm pretty sure Canelo will win the fight.

It's pretty obvious that if Bivol gets dominated by Canelo, then the latter will win. Smiley

But seriously, I don't know how Bivol fights but as you said, he's not a defensive boxer? If that is true then he is a dangerous boxer. How come a non-defensive boxer with 19 wins with 11 of it by Knockout and no losses got that record if he's not a defensive type of boxer?

Maybe let's change the statement to, Bivol is also good in defense but with the way Canelo is fighting, any form of defense that Bivol will use might not be effective against Canelo. Agree?
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By the way, there are only 3 remaining belt holders in light heavyweight since lineal champ Artur Beterbiev already unified the IBF and WBC. Bivol holds the WBA. The WBO holder Joe Smith Jr. already lost to Bivol few years ago but still managed to become champion. And I think Beterbiev and Smith are already in negotiations for a three belt unification war. This means Canelo can collect all these belts in only two fights. Seems like he will be doing a legacy indeed.

On the other hand, I believe Canelo will finally win the highest paid athlete this year if he gets past Bivol.
This is without a doubt really interesting, Canelo was already the undisputed of the super middleweight division and now if he gets to beat Bivol then he may have yet another chance to do become an undisputed but at the light heavyweight division, has there been any boxer which became the undisputed at two different divisions? Because personally I do not remember that anyone has actually done such a thing in the past, giving Canelo an unique opportunity to do this incredibly quickly.
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That would certainly open more doors on his career if he will be able to defeat the current pound for pound king and an undisputed fighter, Saul Canelo Alvarez. Towards that way is not an easy thing to accomplish but its reward to reap is definitely hard to deny as his name will be hyped continuously over the years to come.

Though Canelo will ask for a rematch to seek some revenge for that loss.
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April 30, 2022, 05:29:07 PM
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I haven't seen Canelo underestimate his opponents though that's why he is very successful. His work ethics and attitude have been mold to really train with 100% and give his everything in every fight.
I have seen an exclusive interview, he seems to be arguing with demetrius andrade and Cenelo said some harsh words but he doesn't seem like the grumpy type, he is a very cold person and he will vent his anger with hard punches during boxing matches. So I think Canelo is very wise in discussions but as a normal person, patience also has its limits.
This is quite reasonable because apart from the strategy that will be applied in the fight, this can also be used as a start to try to provoke the opponent because the more the opponent is provoked, the better. This is what Canelo is trying to do now because it is a common thing to do.
Regardless it looks like these fighters are more careful and less intensely provoking right now but hopefully it will get better

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Bivol isn't a defensive boxer, if we will see Bivol get dominated by Canelo... I'm pretty sure Canelo will win the fight.

It's pretty obvious that if Bivol gets dominated by Canelo, then the latter will win. Smiley

But seriously, I don't know how Bivol fights but as you said, he's not a defensive boxer? If that is true then he is a dangerous boxer. How come a non-defensive boxer with 19 wins with 11 of it by Knockout and no losses got that record if he's not a defensive type of boxer?

Maybe let's change the statement to, Bivol is also good in defense but with the way Canelo is fighting, any form of defense that Bivol will use might not be effective against Canelo. Agree?

And maybe Bivol might have a better chance beating Canelo if he will try to be aggressive attacking Canelo and wish to land a solid combination and bring Canelo down. But again, we all know how careful Canelo was, and he always manages to keep his composures.
he knows how to adjust and he will not put his defense down while observing the situation.

It's interesting to know if how both fighters will come up when they are both already inside the ring, what surprises they have
to entertain all the fans.

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Yes a fight that was once lost is lost forever but in-terms of boxing that quote may not be applicable at all times because even if you're lost, you can also avenge that defeat in-order to prove yourself again but that also depends on the result of the 1st fight if a rematch is indeed interesting to make and I bet these boxers we are talking now will really give their best and to entertain the crowd/fans.
Losing a boxing match doesn't mean the fight is over, because if a boxer tries to train hard to prove himself to be a strong boxer and has the potential to put up a spectacular fight, promoters will consider a rematch. The Promoter holds all the decisions for the boxing match and if the first fight is high earning it is possible that a rematch will be scheduled by the promoter. Perhaps the same case occurred in Fury vs Wilder which had been scheduled for 2 rematches of the first boxing match since 2018.

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Yes a fight that was once lost is lost forever but in-terms of boxing that quote may not be applicable at all times because even if you're lost, you can also avenge that defeat in-order to prove yourself again but that also depends on the result of the 1st fight if a rematch is indeed interesting to make and I bet these boxers we are talking now will really give their best and to entertain the crowd/fans.
Losing a boxing match doesn't mean the fight is over, because if a boxer tries to train hard to prove himself to be a strong boxer and has the potential to put up a spectacular fight, promoters will consider a rematch. The Promoter holds all the decisions for the boxing match and if the first fight is high earning it is possible that a rematch will be scheduled by the promoter. Perhaps the same case occurred in Fury vs Wilder which had been scheduled for 2 rematches of the first boxing match since 2018.
you are right that mate once the fighter will loss that's not mean his career is over and we all know that every legendary boxer has experienced losing cause when they are in the fight and loss for sure after that they learn some lesson and to used in the fight in order to win in the rematch or in other fight. And that's The reason why they have a promoter, the promoter decides when they schedule for fight again in order to be prepared.
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April 30, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
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Canelo Alvarez highly confident for Dmitry Bivol fight

As usual, Canelo is just Canelo, always ready and confident against anyone even as mentioned in the article, he should be worried about the size, power & technical ability of Dmitry Bivol. In the first place, thinking about those things that will destruct a boxer won't really help that's why being worried shouldn't have any room.

Also mentioned in the article, if Canelo will lose the fight, don't even think he can get a piece of GGG in a trilogy match even if he pushes for that.

And maybe Bivol might have a better chance beating Canelo if he will try to be aggressive attacking Canelo and wish to land a solid combination and bring Canelo down. But again, we all know how careful Canelo was, and he always manages to keep his composures.

I'm really looking forward to that scene wherein Bivol will try to connect lots of punches trying to crash Canelo's defense or make a call for Canelo to just bring it on without doing defense. Fans will like that scene and might be considered the best fight of the year.

Bivol surely study how Canelo fight and what's left is, how to execute his strategy once they fight now in the ring.


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