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March 05, 2022, 11:50:02 AM
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Not only with sports but actually almost all since there are so much things got affected for this war. We can feel it and inflation rise up since the price of oil became more expensive. But it didn't actually affect the whole sports market because maybe there are certain of them got affected due to the sanction but majority of sports event running good especially on outside of Russian territory.

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March 05, 2022, 12:03:23 PM
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In the case of Russian sports, sanctions are imposed for not being able to fly the flag at international sports championships, besides that their national anthem is also prohibited from being sung. but I also think that overall the world's sport is still unhindered. it could even be that access to foreign countries in all cases will be closed later, this is for the weakening of the Russian economy

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March 05, 2022, 12:18:38 PM
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It's hard to see people suffer from loss of sponsorship deals and contracts just because their clubs are partly owned or affiliated with Russian oligarchs. No one of them wanted the conflict/invasion to happen, but they're still affected like the millions of other citizens in Ukraine. I'm expecting that the isolation of Russia from the rest of the sports world will continue until the conflict/invasion is over, which I think wouldn't happen any time soon.

The people of Russia will surely try and break free from Putin's grasp, like a revolution or something, if they continue to get involved on troubles that they aren't even a part of to begin with.
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March 05, 2022, 03:29:03 PM
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I would like to correct the wording -this is not an Ukraine -Russia war, this is an aggressive invasion of Ukraine by order of Vladimir Putin. Most Russians did not get a say on this.

Maybe true, most Russians did not get a say on this war. But in international politics we have different levels of analysis the individual level, state level and globe. Based on individual level of analysis is the war, you may not be wrong suggesting that the war is between Vladimir' Putin and Ukraine. But based in state level of analysis of this war these recent days, it's actually a war between Russia and Ukraine.

In that, every action, sanction or missile fired from Russia to Ukraine is not in the name of Putin but Russia as a government and  sovereign_country.

If I may ask, all the sanctions from NATO nation's, and other countries from different part of the  world is it on Putin or Russia??
 


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March 05, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
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If I may ask, all the sanctions from NATO nation's, and other countries from different part of the  world is it on Putin or Russia??
 
For now, I only know that additional western sanctions will cover both individuals and countries, which means that for individuals they can single-handedly point to Putin being applied by the sanctions, part of the sanctions large applied to the whole country of Russia.  Political conspiracy will be an extremely difficult problem when the benefits and destruction are very fragile when the real war has been created.  I hate to say this but sanctions are not a bad idea for Nato or the west in terms of interests.

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March 05, 2022, 05:06:54 PM
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Clubs like Chelsea, Bournemouth, AS Monaco, Cercle Brugge and Vitesse Arnhem might be affected by sanctions because they are owned in full or partially by Russian oligarchs. Roman Abramovich revolutionized the EPL when he heavily invested in an average club Chelsea. He turned the club to a world-class football team winning five Premier League titles, five FA Cups, two Champions League trophies, three League Cups, two Europa League and one world club trophies.Currently, he might loose the club or be forced to sell it less passionate clients.  
I am not aware of these connections between Russian investment and these football clubs but to have sanctions on these investors is ridiculous just because of political reasons is not fair for the investors. No one was able to invest in them when they were struggling financially and hence they invested in those clubs and to takeover that investment citing political reasons is ridiculous.
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March 05, 2022, 05:28:50 PM
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Who cares about sports economy during the devastating war? Clusters kill people everyday and do you think that sports economy is important to cosider?
There’s a big money in sports especially on the top leagues to technically it matters to someone, especially if you’re the owner of the team. Sports should not be affected only if the western government focus more on sanctioning the Russian government instead of private entities and individuals. This can affect more if the war continues.

The sanctions work like this. If X country wants to sanction Y country he may consider private entities and individuals, Because there is no country in the world without its citizens,therefore I think this sphere will be affected by those sanctions more and more.
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March 05, 2022, 09:50:58 PM
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I would say this is a good thing. I wish that nations actually cared about all the "bad people" as they did with Russian oligarchs though. Everyone loves abramovic and how he helped Chelsea to become a great team, but nobody questions the dirty ways he got that money. You may believe that he was a good person, but he was a terrible person all around, the way he became this rich was corruption from top to bottom.

However, we have people like Saudi Arabian princes that kill journalists that recently bought newcastle and already spent 100+ million on transfers and everyone cheers them. So, either ban all the "bad" money, or ban nobody. If sports keep being this selective then it is not going to be good for anyone.
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March 06, 2022, 11:06:08 PM
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I would say this is a good thing. I wish that nations actually cared about all the "bad people" as they did with Russian oligarchs though. Everyone loves abramovic and how he helped Chelsea to become a great team, but nobody questions the dirty ways he got that money. You may believe that he was a good person, but he was a terrible person all around, the way he became this rich was corruption from top to bottom.

However, we have people like Saudi Arabian princes that kill journalists that recently bought newcastle and already spent 100+ million on transfers and everyone cheers them. So, either ban all the "bad" money, or ban nobody. If sports keep being this selective then it is not going to be good for anyone.

Unfortunately, that's the reality of life and there will always be bias in this humanity.
A lot of these wealthy people got their position in some illegal ways, one way or another.
But who are we to judge about their riches? And now, some of these Russian oligarchs are receiving sanctions.
We don't know to what extent, but in some way, they are being punished also because of what is happening today.
We can't expect fairness in this society. What we can do is just to live our own lives in rightful manner.
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Unfortunately, that's the reality of life and there will always be bias in this humanity.
A lot of these wealthy people got their position in some illegal ways, one way or another.
But who are we to judge about their riches? And now, some of these Russian oligarchs are receiving sanctions.
We don't know to what extent, but in some way, they are being punished also because of what is happening today.
We can't expect fairness in this society. What we can do is just to live our own lives in rightful manner.

this makes people really think, indeed I think losing a sponsor is also something that no one wants, funding is stopped from as usual, what other friends say about wealth, throne and even an attitude, not everyone may agree with conflicts that occur according to their respective logics, I know that outside of sponsors, the economic inflow from this sport may be quite large because there are quite a lot of fans and are in various countries. Even if we fight this situation alone, it's useless, I'm sure sport has its own rights in any country

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This is just one of the consequences of this unnecessary invasion. But I suppose this is one of the milder impacts. While this is also significant as it involves revenue and sports economy, this proves small compared to the destruction of lives and properties and Ukraine's economy.

This proves that Putin's mad call has tremendous effects on all aspects of life. Not only are people losing life and limb, homes, jobs, properties, they are also losing livelihood, education, and leisure. Their entire existence is shattered. And for what?

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March 07, 2022, 07:05:59 AM
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Not only with sports but actually almost all since there are so much things got affected for this war. We can feel it and inflation rise up since the price of oil became more expensive. But it didn't actually affect the whole sports market because maybe there are certain of them got affected due to the sanction but majority of sports event running good especially on outside of Russian territory.

That's right.

This is going to affect globally, not just the sport. But we must also think that even shortly before the COVID we already had economic problems in most developed countries, derived from a massive printing of currency and that the war will only exacerbate them, but it will not be the only cause as they will try to sell us. Inflation, for example, started before the war, only now it has increased.

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March 07, 2022, 02:12:41 PM
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I would like to correct the wording -this is not an Ukraine -Russia war, this is an aggressive invasion of Ukraine by order of Vladimir Putin. Most Russians did not get a say on this.

Now, the football is linked to the global economy and it is a leisure activity, which traditionally suffers when practically anything out of the ordinary happens: terrorist attacks, wars, natural catastrophes,... that is how it works so no surprise.



You are right. This is the repercussion of Putin's impulsive and aggressive move against Ukraine. Putin could have addressed it better, but he chose to resort on violence instead of being diplomatic. This is just one of the many possible results of invading the territory of Ukraine and wreaking havoc. Sports would definitely be affected just like the other things and matters at hand. No matter how the citizens of Russia want sports event to continue just the way it was before, it won't happen because the decision would be impose generally. In addition, there are sanctions made for their military to make a step back and pull out, but from the news circulating, Putin is showing no remorse and not really thinking of raising the white flag. This would certainly impact the sports team, players, coaches, and sports fans not only in Russia, but in most part of the world since some events are being hosted in the same country.

Let's just hope for the betterment of Russia and Ukraine. Hopefully, the conflict between them would be resolved as soon as possible to reduce further damages in many aspects.
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March 07, 2022, 04:13:07 PM
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It's hasn't hindered the growth of the worlds economy in any way, else it has done more harm to all Russians in different sector's, both those that are directly involved and those that are not have suffered greatly from sanctions placed on them.
In several sports, they all Russians involved has been removed one way or the other from participating, in other to avoid those directly I with money laundering to Putin.
My prayers are for all of this to come to an end! Football from different league's has demonstrated they don't want to be part of the war.
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March 07, 2022, 05:40:14 PM
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This is going to affect globally, not just the sport. But we must also think that even shortly before the COVID we already had economic problems in most developed countries, derived from a massive printing of currency and that the war will only exacerbate them, but it will not be the only cause as they will try to sell us. Inflation, for example, started before the war, only now it has increased.
Inflation is one thing, and that is mainly caused by the stagnant economy getting pumped by printed money which resulted with banks and rich people to get richer and poor people barely saw any of that, and anyone that did, just bought the needed things to survive and not just get rich. However, what people are missing out here is that we are talking about Russia having big sanctions now, that is different than inflation, it means that there will be some lack of products coming from there. From energy sources to oil to even as simple as wheat as well.

So, when West can't get that for cheap, or when Russia fails to sell those, it will be a horrible period for everyone involved. Not having money can be fixed one way or another, but having money yet can't buy the things you need is much worse.

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March 10, 2022, 04:29:06 PM
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It's hard to see people suffer from loss of sponsorship deals and contracts just because their clubs are partly owned or affiliated with Russian oligarchs. No one of them wanted the conflict/invasion to happen, but they're still affected like the millions of other citizens in Ukraine. I'm expecting that the isolation of Russia from the rest of the sports world will continue until the conflict/invasion is over, which I think wouldn't happen any time soon.

The people of Russia will surely try and break free from Putin's grasp, like a revolution or something, if they continue to get involved on troubles that they aren't even a part of to begin with.
The people of Russia have been thinking for too long what to do with such economic-destroying sanctions. Now every day of their inaction throws the Russian economy back for months, or even years in development. Losses due to the impossibility of the participation of Russian athletes against this background already seem like a trifle.
Today there were negotiations between Russia and Ukraine at the level of foreign ministers, and again to no avail. Russia even refuses to stop shelling the peaceful cities of Ukraine. Therefore, the sanctions will only increase and it will be fair. Either the people will remove their evil dwarf Putin (now Putin is already called the Antichrist, whom Nostradamus also mentioned), or they will suffer even more, and in several generations.
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The people of Russia have been thinking for too long what to do with such economic-destroying sanctions. Now every day of their inaction throws the Russian economy back for months, or even years in development. Losses due to the impossibility of the participation of Russian athletes against this background already seem like a trifle.
Today there were negotiations between Russia and Ukraine at the level of foreign ministers, and again to no avail. Russia even refuses to stop shelling the peaceful cities of Ukraine. Therefore, the sanctions will only increase and it will be fair. Either the people will remove their evil dwarf Putin (now Putin is already called the Antichrist, whom Nostradamus also mentioned), or they will suffer even more, and in several generations.
can you give me a link of information that putin is nicknamed like that? good any media. I don't understand that far about the conflict there, many have criticized in various countries about this heroic action, how not, this so-called opponent seems to have given up but the attackers continue to bombard ruthlessly, we have the United Nations which we must unite. much more than that please give me more information, about putin and this aggression. if there were no statements about an indication of state defense for war, there would probably be no loss of life and the economy would remain stable

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The people of Russia have been thinking for too long what to do with such economic-destroying sanctions. Now every day of their inaction throws the Russian economy back for months, or even years in development. Losses due to the impossibility of the participation of Russian athletes against this background already seem like a trifle.
Today there were negotiations between Russia and Ukraine at the level of foreign ministers, and again to no avail. Russia even refuses to stop shelling the peaceful cities of Ukraine. Therefore, the sanctions will only increase and it will be fair. Either the people will remove their evil dwarf Putin (now Putin is already called the Antichrist, whom Nostradamus also mentioned), or they will suffer even more, and in several generations.
can you give me a link of information that putin is nicknamed like that? good any media. I don't understand that far about the conflict there, many have criticized in various countries about this heroic action, how not, this so-called opponent seems to have given up but the attackers continue to bombard ruthlessly, we have the United Nations which we must unite. much more than that please give me more information, about putin and this aggression. if there were no statements about an indication of state defense for war, there would probably be no loss of life and the economy would remain stable

I believe the nickname comes from the Ukrainian woman as per this video.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/03/07/putin-is-a-war-criminal-the-antichrist-says-ukrainian-woman.html

UN can't retaliate violently here, they have other considerations before they will assist Ukraine and it may not be the same violence.
Ukraine seems not giving up even if they are losing manpower and weaponry. Seems that neighboring countries are helping on their own ways.
But they can't wage war over Putin for some other reasons. We just hope that Putin will stop as the whole world is watching.
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Sports economy no longer stand aside or hesitate with the apolitical or neutral principles that have been maintained so far to come to a quick decision to remove Russia from the world sports movement because of the war of aggression comb.

The unprecedented sanctions against Russia in the field of sports are also aimed at Russia's economic interests, contributing to further isolating Russia in the world because of the invasion of Ukraine.
 
But the question is, will these sanctions deter the Russian president? Most experts believe that on the contrary, the more sanctions the West imposes, the worse the Russian president will act. Sports sanctions only add to international diplomatic sanctions. Russia is becoming more and more isolated politically, economically, and then sportingly.
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Sports economy no longer stand aside or hesitate with the apolitical or neutral principles that have been maintained so far to come to a quick decision to remove Russia from the world sports movement because of the war of aggression comb.

The unprecedented sanctions against Russia in the field of sports are also aimed at Russia's economic interests, contributing to further isolating Russia in the world because of the invasion of Ukraine.
 
But the question is, will these sanctions deter the Russian president? Most experts believe that on the contrary, the more sanctions the West imposes, the worse the Russian president will act. Sports sanctions only add to international diplomatic sanctions. Russia is becoming more and more isolated politically, economically, and then sportingly.
Even I see that Putin does not care about the many sanctions imposed on Russia,
surely the existing sanctions are aimed at weakening the Russian economy but it doesn't look like it will be that easy,
what is certain is that Putin is really ready for everything that will happen later

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