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And that means Russia will have to sell it for cheaper, sell to china, sell to India, sell to anywhere that accepts it, even Africa if they have to. In that case the cheaper product would be bought from that third nation, for a lot less and Russia would not make that profit as the same. Like assume there is a thing costs 100 bucks to sell to west, west declines it, so you sell it to 50 to Nigera, then west buys for 80 from Nigeria. You see west made a profit of %20 on each sale, and Nigera made a profit as well, whereas Russia made a 50% loss.
Finally, some poeple actually understand how things work! If Russia could have sold its products for a profit it would have done so before, if Russians would want Chinese cars and Chinese cars were better they would have had their country full of them by now and not Japanese and European models. All Russia can do now is offer discounts to other countries, lose money and, guess what becomes itself a prisoner in trade since if those countries say no, there is nobody on this earth to deal with and you end up like NK. Also, to add to that example. Russia will sell all the oil it was selling to Europe to Asia. God, but what about the ones that were previously selling oil to Asia, they will either lower the price so Rusia can't sell at a profit, or, just as simple, they will sell that oil to Europe. Some of you artificially create open markets which Russia will suddenly take over and have no adversary, this is NOT how things work.! You are absolutely correct, and I am even ready to agree with you. But then explain to me what is the difference at what price to sell oil, if the profits from the sale of oil are sent to the National Wealth Fund of Russia, and this fund sends 2/3 of this money (that's hundreds of billions of dollars) to American and European banks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That is, Russian profit works for the economy of the Americas and Europe. If Part of this money is spent in Russia, then the country will have one of the best IT Sectors in the world.
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For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
Maybe you should do some basic research before making such claims - Russia is only the biggest exporter for 2 out of the 5 precious metals that you've listed. The Russian economy is in tatters right now because of Putin's unjustified war, so commodities and energy are some of the only income they've got coming into the country. If they decide to stop selling those then they will end up shutting off some of their final sources of revenue and put the final nails in the economic coffin. They might continue to sell these things to China, but China will take maximum advantage of the situation and offer the absolute minimum price in return. It looks like there will be disruption for all sorts of reasons from this war, but it's unlikely to be related to the couple ore exports where they are the biggest supplier.
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You are absolutely correct, and I am even ready to agree with you. But then explain to me what is the difference at what price to sell oil, if the profits from the sale of oil are sent to the National Wealth Fund of Russia, and this fund sends 2/3 of this money (that's hundreds of billions of dollars) to American and European banks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Pretty simple. Do you know how you can get a loan here? You must have collateral or an escrow guaranteeing your reimbursement. If Russia would keep all its reserves in their own banks then nobody would trust Russian companies to pay their debts, that's why Venezuela had gold in London, that's why India has reserve currency in Tokyo and that's why the entire world is interconnected. Nobody will grant a loan to Zimbabwe with assets claimed to be in Zimbabwe bank, cause they know if things go wrong there is no insurance. As for direct investments, one must ask yourself why poeple choose to invest in foreign companies and not Russian. Maybe the same thing happened when: - despite Russia having the first vaccine and 3 more before the western world poeple choose not to get vacicnated? - people buying foreign stuff and not russian made ones? - the previous experience of how if a Russian company is not doing as Putin likes is bought down to zero in a second? The problem is that you trust yourself less than you trust the west, I've seen that numerous times, even on this forum. If Part of this money is spent in Russia, then the country will have one of the best IT Sectors in the world.
And that has worked wonders from 45 to 91, right? Btw, what is your IT sector going to run on, Elbrus chips? https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russias-biggest-bank-tests-elbrus-cpu-finds-it-unacceptableOh wait, even your russian chips are made by TSMC.
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For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
I know that Russia is a country rich in resources and diverse in terms of most of the metals they have enough, the fact that Russia is confident in the war with Ukraine is also for this reason, they are able to maintain and export. most of the raw materials, oil and gas energy for the Western region, obviously if it's related to IT like chips or technology, I think they also import most of them from the US. Also, they are very confident about “cyber warfare” - I think they also have evidence of a big development for IT The risk of change will compound to sanctions and Russia will have to find a way to manage and cope and sustain the economy going forward, it is clear that they are having an unexpected loss to the economy with sanctions from the West.
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You are absolutely correct, and I am even ready to agree with you. But then explain to me what is the difference at what price to sell oil, if the profits from the sale of oil are sent to the National Wealth Fund of Russia, and this fund sends 2/3 of this money (that's hundreds of billions of dollars) to American and European banks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Pretty simple. Do you know how you can get a loan here? You must have collateral or an escrow guaranteeing your reimbursement. If Russia would keep all its reserves in their own banks then nobody would trust Russian companies to pay their debts, that's why Venezuela had gold in London, that's why India has reserve currency in Tokyo and that's why the entire world is interconnected. Nobody will grant a loan to Zimbabwe with assets claimed to be in Zimbabwe bank, cause they know if things go wrong there is no insurance. As for direct investments, one must ask yourself why poeple choose to invest in foreign companies and not Russian. Maybe the same thing happened when: - despite Russia having the first vaccine and 3 more before the western world poeple choose not to get vacicnated? - people buying foreign stuff and not russian made ones? - the previous experience of how if a Russian company is not doing as Putin likes is bought down to zero in a second? The problem is that you trust yourself less than you trust the west, I've seen that numerous times, even on this forum. If Part of this money is spent in Russia, then the country will have one of the best IT Sectors in the world.
And that has worked wonders from 45 to 91, right? Btw, what is your IT sector going to run on, Elbrus chips? https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russias-biggest-bank-tests-elbrus-cpu-finds-it-unacceptableOh wait, even your russian chips are made by TSMC. As for finances, I think this is an agreement between Russia and the world's financial elites. Why should Russia take loans if its budget is in surplus? And you are laughing in vain about Elbrus processors. This company was not inferior to American counterparts in 1992, but then it was a very difficult time in Russia, but thanks to the efforts of many scientists and politicians, this enterprise was saved. 10-15 billion dollars of investment and in 5-7 years Russia will have a modern production of processors. This is not a lot of money for the Russian budget. I read that many companies in America and Europe make their chips at TSMC factories. In Russia, there are microelectronics factories with a process technology of 60-80 nm. All we need is time and investment.
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March 04, 2022, 05:54:18 PM |
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As for finances, I think this is an agreement between Russia and the world's financial elites. Why should Russia take loans if its budget is in surplus?
Because a company is not all the companies as a whole. Every single one of them works with surplus and debt, that's why we have SWIFT for banks and that's why we have reserve funds, to allow settlements. Seriously, have you just woke up and realized that you have a better way to do world trade nobody has thought of it before? And you are laughing in vain about Elbrus processors. This company was not inferior to American counterparts in 1992, but then it was a very difficult time in Russia, but thanks to the efforts of many scientists and politicians, this enterprise was saved.
It's not me who is laughing it's all the world, deal with it, it's an ancient chip. Can you please back your claim with some REAL world facts? 10-15 billion dollars of investment and in 5-7 years Russia will have a modern production of processors. This is not a lot of money for the Russian budget. I read that many companies in America and Europe make their chips at TSMC factories. In Russia, there are microelectronics factories with a process technology of 60-80 nm. All we need is time and investment.
Again, stop believing in fairy tales: TSMC to Invest Up to $44 Billion in 2022 to Beef Up Chip ProductionDo you think that with 10 billion over 7 years you're going to catch up with companies that have poured in development hundred of billions to date? Don't you see that even other real first-world economies are struggling to build a chip factory even with already developed fab techniques and you think out of blue Russia will do it ...cause? Propaganda will never beat reality.
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All countries are affected especially oil and gas importers. China produces more of these IT products making them a valuable ally of Russia. I guess this makes thier business going if finished products goes out from China.
So many news about sanctions actually, I wonder if its true because 40% of Europe's gas is from Russia. How they could afford to cut it is unbelievable. I'm thinking sanctions are all just news but in reality the business continues.
Although it's big but it wasn't 100% and there are still 60% left where they can get so the business still continues. They can sacrifice a lot of things only to continue the sanctions because that is what Russia deserves. For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
Before they do the sanction they also realize if what it would be the effect to them not just on Russia but they still do it so that means they are not really worried. For them, what important is to to pay Russia for the actions that they made and besides the technology that we have right now are already advanced and it won't hurt if we can wait for some time to release another brand new versions of it. There are other important things that are affected by the sanctions than the IT sector IMO.
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As for finances, I think this is an agreement between Russia and the world's financial elites. Why should Russia take loans if its budget is in surplus?
Because a company is not all the companies as a whole. Every single one of them works with surplus and debt, that's why we have SWIFT for banks and that's why we have reserve funds, to allow settlements. Seriously, have you just woke up and realized that you have a better way to do world trade nobody has thought of it before? And you are laughing in vain about Elbrus processors. This company was not inferior to American counterparts in 1992, but then it was a very difficult time in Russia, but thanks to the efforts of many scientists and politicians, this enterprise was saved.
It's not me who is laughing it's all the world, deal with it, it's an ancient chip. Can you please back your claim with some REAL world facts? 10-15 billion dollars of investment and in 5-7 years Russia will have a modern production of processors. This is not a lot of money for the Russian budget. I read that many companies in America and Europe make their chips at TSMC factories. In Russia, there are microelectronics factories with a process technology of 60-80 nm. All we need is time and investment.
Again, stop believing in fairy tales: TSMC to Invest Up to $44 Billion in 2022 to Beef Up Chip ProductionDo you think that with 10 billion over 7 years you're going to catch up with companies that have poured in development hundred of billions to date? Don't you see that even other real first-world economies are struggling to build a chip factory even with already developed fab techniques and you think out of blue Russia will do it ...cause? Propaganda will never beat reality. The most important thing is that Russia has its own factories and technologies. If you are interested in the history of the processor in Elbrus, you can find it on the links in Wikipedia and information about the latest models. If the country's leadership decides to create Russian analogues, then there will be no problems with investments. Russia has a huge budget surplus. Ukraine has been a major supplier of wheat to Europe, prices have already increased by 40%.
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The most important thing is that Russia has its own factories and technologies. If you are interested in the history of the processor in Elbrus, you can find it on the links in Wikipedia and information about the latest models. If the country's leadership decides to create Russian analogues, then there will be no problems with investments. Russia has a huge budget surplus. Ukraine has been a major supplier of wheat to Europe, prices have already increased by 40%. You are right about Russia. This country is massive and they do not need to import any technology to do farming and other essential needs. They can survive without any foreign trade at least they will not suffer from hunger. Russia and Ukraine are the biggest suppliers of wheat in Egypt, Yemen, Lebanon, and Syria too. The price of wheat is already skyrocketing in that country which causes public unrest. They also declared to stop supplying gas to the EU. Things will be difficult for the west.
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The most important thing is that Russia has its own factories and technologies. If you are interested in the history of the processor in Elbrus, you can find it on the links in Wikipedia and information about the latest models. Nope, it doesn't work like that. You made some claims on the Russian processors being on par with western ones in 92 then you send a wiki link? Man up and say it, you just threw that out for your wounded pride, you knew deep down that there was never any comparison between them So, care to share the details of how Russian chips specs were the same during the 90s? If the country's leadership decides to create Russian analogues, then there will be no problems with investments. Russia has a huge budget surplus. Ukraine has been a major supplier of wheat to Europe, prices have already increased by 40%.
Again, stop reading Russian propaganda (that might be hard for you, but try it) and face reality: The World Is Gobbling Up European Wheat Like Never BeforeCountries around the world are loading up on European wheat at the fastest pace ever after poor harvests in other major exporters. The European Union’s exports may top 11 million tons by the end of this month, according to Nathan Cordier, an analyst at consultant Agritel. That would be 25% more than a year earlier and the most for that time of the season in EU data going back two decades. Europe produces more than one and a half the wheat Russia does. You are right about Russia. This country is massive and they do not need to import any technology to do farming and other essential needs.
Meanwhile, in reality, Russians are trampling each other over the last cooking pot available before IKEA closes. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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What else can they do ? They have to become more self sustainable and at the same time they have to look for other options for them, which would involve finding countries that can import such stuff. I do think China might take over soon and at the same time they don't have some out of the world technologies therefore some eligible countries might take over on that part. Rest they are looking forward to enable the bitcoins and mining as well which would also have a great impact on the whole thing, at the end of the day, the sanctions are important to cut off the government funding at the moment since they are literally threatening nuclear war at the moment.
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For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
Russia is not a small country. If they put sanctions on russians, it will not only affect the russian people but globally the world will be affected. The reason is that many countries import a lot of commodities from russians and sanctions on russia will globally affect the economy.
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All countries are affected especially oil and gas importers. China produces more of these IT products making them a valuable ally of Russia. I guess this makes thier business going if finished products goes out from China.
So many news about sanctions actually, I wonder if its true because 40% of Europe's gas is from Russia. How they could afford to cut it is unbelievable. I'm thinking sanctions are all just news but in reality the business continues.
It is very difficult for Europe to cut off the Russian oil and gas business that has been running to Europe so far...i imagine there will be many bad things if strict sanctions are given to the Russian oil and gas business. i think it would be more effective if the sanction was only imposed on the football team and the Russian currency (rubel).
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For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
Why should we worry about that boomerang effect? We should be talking about how would they respond with those sanctions. There's no need for chips anymore if Putin pressed that red button. No need for devices as such, there will be less humans walking on the surface of the earth. I think this is a time for us to worry about starting to dig our tunnels if we still want to survive. This is crucial moment and also, the food will be scarce, can't have those chips be in my stomach. These greedy war mongers don't give a shit about us common folks. That is why I am starting to be independent, plant your food and Don't rely on them too much, we can still live without those chips and oil.
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The most important thing is that Russia has its own factories and technologies. If you are interested in the history of the processor in Elbrus, you can find it on the links in Wikipedia and information about the latest models. Nope, it doesn't work like that. You made some claims on the Russian processors being on par with western ones in 92 then you send a wiki link? Man up and say it, you just threw that out for your wounded pride, you knew deep down that there was never any comparison between them So, care to share the details of how Russian chips specs were the same during the 90s? If the country's leadership decides to create Russian analogues, then there will be no problems with investments. Russia has a huge budget surplus. Ukraine has been a major supplier of wheat to Europe, prices have already increased by 40%.
Again, stop reading Russian propaganda (that might be hard for you, but try it) and face reality: The World Is Gobbling Up European Wheat Like Never BeforeCountries around the world are loading up on European wheat at the fastest pace ever after poor harvests in other major exporters. The European Union’s exports may top 11 million tons by the end of this month, according to Nathan Cordier, an analyst at consultant Agritel. That would be 25% more than a year earlier and the most for that time of the season in EU data going back two decades. Europe produces more than one and a half the wheat Russia does. __ https://indicator.ru/mathematics/sovetskij-kompyuter-elbrus.htmThe next level was the Elbrus-3 supercomputer, based on a completely new ELBRUS architecture, which the developers called the “post-superscalar approach” (and which Intel, Transmeta and HP will start working on only in the mid-nineties). He passed all the tests, but the only working copy, built in 1994, was not needed by anyone in the newborn half-starved country.
Its characteristics are in Wikipedia Director of the Institute of Microprocessor Systems of the Russian Academy of Sciences, laureate of the Lenin and State Prizes, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Boris Babayan became the director of architecture in the software solutions division of Intel, where he leads a global project on computer architecture, binary compilation technology and secure computing technology to combat with viruses. Boris Babayan is one of the key developers of domestic machines of the Elbrus class, which anticipated the development of world computing technology, the creator of complex electronics and microprocessor systems on defense topics. For Russian science, languishing from the "brain drain", the loss of Boris Babayan, who took with him a large scientific team, is an irreparable loss. The world microprocessor leader awarded the Russian scientist with the Intel Felow title, which was awarded to 41 people in the world, no one in Europe, and 2-3 more scientists outside the USA. Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Babayan brought the entire Elbrus group of companies with branches in Moscow, St. Petersburg and Novosibirsk to Intel. Elbrus, despite the economic difficulties of the 1990s, was able to maintain its scientific potential, as evidenced by the cooperation with one of the leaders in the computer world - the American Sun, which lasted 12 years.
https://kprf.ru/news/lenta/29964.htmlI want to tell you that in Russia from 1991 to 2000 there were very difficult times. A lot of scientists went abroad. There was a war going on between the financial elites for influence in the country. therefore, Russia has lagged far behind other countries in these 9 years. I hope you don't consider bloomberg to be Russian propaganda https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-25/war-in-world-s-breadbasket-leaves-big-buyers-hunting-for-wheat
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https://indicator.ru/mathematics/sovetskij-kompyuter-elbrus.htmThe next level was the Elbrus-3 supercomputer, based on a completely new ELBRUS architecture, which the developers called the “post-superscalar approach” (and which Intel, Transmeta and HP will start working on only in the mid-nineties). He passed all the tests, but the only working copy, built in 1994, was not needed by anyone in the newborn half-starved country.
So a prototype that was never used, like the T14 or the PAK FA, yeah, the usual KGB propagnda bullshit. And if you didn't manage to get something done in the '90, not 10 years ago, how do you plan on doing it now when the times are even worse? Use your brain, who is going to keep living there knowing in the west they pay him 10 times more and he has a chance to drive something better than a lada. Oh, wait, Ladas are made by Renault, bye bye!! Have you actually read the article? Doubt it! Russia and Ukraine supply crops to a long list of countries around the world, including large volumes to buyers in the Middle East and Africa, who will have to look elsewhere and probably pay more for both the grain itself and the cost of shipping. Egypt, the top wheat importer, had scheduled a tender on Thursday but canceled it after only receiving one offer -- of French wheat. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wheat-production-by-countryEurope produces 1 and a half the wheat Russia does, this is where exports from Russia and Ukraine go: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/17/infographic-russia-ukraine-and-the-global-wheat-supply-interactiveNow, please tell me how is Russia going to stop those exports and NOT make more enemies of now neutral countries.
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March 06, 2022, 08:19:23 PM |
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For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect? The sanctions and the war will have have a rippling affect and if the statement above is true, the semiconductor industry will be suffering once again especially the automobile industry who was struggling with semi conductors in the past two years will undergo the same situation once again which means the entire sector will be struggling to match the user demands and production of cars and the funny thing is that it will affect US drastically as well.
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March 06, 2022, 08:52:42 PM |
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For Russia's war with Ukraine, the west put heavy sanctions on Russia. That means export and import with Russia is not accessible. Data shows Russia is the biggest exporter of raw materials like copper, aluminum, nickel, platinum, palladium, etc which is used in chip making. That means we are expecting more delays in the semiconductor industry. We all know how important this staff is to run electronic devices. Disruption on-chip shortages could spike the price of digital devices too which affects globally. Is that a good idea to push Russia out of the world economy? This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
This goes both ways because chip producers and many IT brands announced leaving the Russian market. As for raw materials, I'm sure there's plenty to choose from, building up new relationships with other countries. And yes, there will be impact on the Western world from sanctions as well, but every time you doubt sanctions are reasonable, think of this: if it were Nazi Germany getting sanctioned in 1939, would you support that, even if it leads to some difficulties for you? Another option is, of course, making it all a temporary thing, changing the regime in Russia, and making new economic relations with a different government, the one that is not into bombing civilians in a neighboring country and threatening the world with its nukes. As for Russia making its own technological 'analogues' and a 'surplus' of Russian budget (zasad's points), this actually made me smile because boy oh boy that's not the case, and people in Russia will start realizing it very soon.
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This sanction of the west could have a boomerang effect?
The EU is looking at handling the now that it is still early and an attack on just one country that is Ukraine instead of attack on EU sovereignty. The assumption is that Russia can be leading a war against the unity of EU as a whole but coming through Ukraine. This is why they make some sanctions early enough to stop Russia from invading Ukraine. EU is choosing between supporting Ukraine and making sanctions or allowing Russia have the way and wait for what can happen next.
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https://indicator.ru/mathematics/sovetskij-kompyuter-elbrus.htmThe next level was the Elbrus-3 supercomputer, based on a completely new ELBRUS architecture, which the developers called the “post-superscalar approach” (and which Intel, Transmeta and HP will start working on only in the mid-nineties). He passed all the tests, but the only working copy, built in 1994, was not needed by anyone in the newborn half-starved country.
So a prototype that was never used, like the T14 or the PAK FA, yeah, the usual KGB propagnda bullshit. And if you didn't manage to get something done in the '90, not 10 years ago, how do you plan on doing it now when the times are even worse? Use your brain, who is going to keep living there knowing in the west they pay him 10 times more and he has a chance to drive something better than a lada. Oh, wait, Ladas are made by Renault, bye bye!! Have you actually read the article? Doubt it! Russia and Ukraine supply crops to a long list of countries around the world, including large volumes to buyers in the Middle East and Africa, who will have to look elsewhere and probably pay more for both the grain itself and the cost of shipping. Egypt, the top wheat importer, had scheduled a tender on Thursday but canceled it after only receiving one offer -- of French wheat. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wheat-production-by-countryEurope produces 1 and a half the wheat Russia does, this is where exports from Russia and Ukraine go: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/17/infographic-russia-ukraine-and-the-global-wheat-supply-interactiveNow, please tell me how is Russia going to stop those exports and NOT make more enemies of now neutral countries. A very funny situation when any argument is perceived as propaganda. In 1992, the KGB no longer existed and at that time there was no time for propaganda. If you are interested to know where these processors were used, then read about the S-300 missile system and S-400 missile system, which were some of the best in the world. I have a good expensive car in Russia, but I can't say that I was unhappy when I had a Lada. Not everyone wants to leave Russia to get 10 times more salary in Europe or the USA. I will not continue our interesting discussion about wheat, because I do not have time to check all the Russian and foreign articles.
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